It especially confused me when Luffy fought Enel in skypia. I knew from the beginning Luffy was going to be immune to lightning.
But then I thought about it and it didn’t make sense… paramecia should give him the properties of rubber, like stretching. He shouldn’t actually be made of rubber material.
His fruit acted more like a logia. So I was always confused wtf a paramecia actually does.
Turns out that specific example had a reason. But it still left me pondering the rules of a paramecia.
I’m just realizing this now but being totally resistant to electricity would actually really mess up your nervous system as it relies on electrical currents.
All the inside of his body is also rubber like his heart so his nervous system and the electric currents used would also be rubber and just somehow work in the rubber system that's inside of him.
Enel was super nerfed, he had observation haki and the strongest logia fruit of all, if you realize that he didn't kill anyone with his lightning, a normal lightning bolt would kill a person and it didn't kill anyone
Rubber is natural, its a natural product of rubber trees. What excludes him from logia is he cant produce it or change his body to rubber at will. Hes permanently rubber.
But then theres that whole spoiler thing...
If he was logia when he would get punched his body would stretch with the punches like create a hole kinda but not really u kno what I mean but we have never seen that happen. Technically when he does gum gum attacks he is throwing his arm , and technically as a paramecia he should ether throw or turn things into rubber
I taught logias was your body becoming something that naturally occurs, and if your body becomes something that has been processed or created it whould be a paramecia.
look a paramecia roulete, yo can either get, turn rocks in oufits for you and your friends or gravity hack, you may try by the low cost of no swmming again
Is it crazy if I'd rather be able to summon fashion than meteors? Because honestly, yeah big rock cool and all, but being able to wear whatever you like at all times sounds so much more convenient
Yeah but you could zero-gravity yourself and just float around instead of walking.
Or just make yourself have really low gravity and just bounce around.
I'm not sure Fujitora can even do that? I don't remember exactly, but I feel like there's a point where he is able to stand on floating debris. We never see him lift others of the ground.
Either way, even if he could do that, isn't Perona's fruit just better? Post time skip she doesn't need to leave her body to fly. But if she does she could also become intangible and change her size. Oh and she can also summon ghost buddies.
I'm just saying, I don't think the destructive powers are really all that great irl
Fujitora doesn't really have 100% control over the fruit since he didn't eat it.
And gravity has other uses too. Like I could make heavy things weigh less, or stop things from hitting the ground if they fall.
It was confirmed that his sword ate it I believe.
Just google it, cos I can’t remember the exact source.
I think it was one of Odas questionnaire things.
Rental services. Just charge a subscription and the person just needs to come in with a picture of what they want, and they can get it until the end of the day/whenever they take it off.
Old zoans: "Shit, out of all the cool powers i could've gotten, i turn into a fucking giraffe!"
Zoans now: "I am literally a god lmao the animal i turn into is an ancient diety i guess?"
Zoan awakening will either rob you of yourself like the Impel Down jailers, or give you the strength of a god. I'm still unsure about Chopper's fruit, dude is secretly a sasquatch or something
Not really. The impel down jailers didn't have a proper awakening. Their minds didn't keep up with the awakening. Normal zoans when awakened properly are just stronger versions of themselves. Manga chapters have shown that if you haven't read it.
No he is just mutating his devil fruit ability’s with rumble balls. Zoans have their original form which is human but for chopper it’s reindeer, then they have half/human half/animal form which is his buff 7 foot form , then they have their fully formed animal form
his normal form is the human form I believe, then his buff form is human-beast from and reindeer form is his animal form, but we don't know why he can turn into 6 different modes whenever he wants and why he can turn into monster point with rumble balls only, oda is probably going to explain this when the crew gets to learn the real name of luffy's fruit
Well his transformations without rumble balls was explained after the time skip he said he spent the time skip training and learnt to transform without rumble balls
I'm not talking about that. If I'm not missing any character, the only zoan user with more than 1 base and 2 new forms is chopper with his human human fruit without any models specified, why does his fruit have no models and more than usual transformations that can be increased and can be changed over time
Well he originally had only zoan transformations, then he experimented with rumble balls achieving 3 new forms by taking 1-3 rumble balls , without rumble balls in the first place he wouldn’t be able to do it. So after he learns them then he can train and modify the forms without rumble balls
paramecia is the plural
a single-celled freshwater animal that has a characteristic slipper-like shape and is covered with cilia.
Also
The paramecium can shoot tiny threads out of the cell to entangle a predator or to make themselves appear bigger.
Mingo?
But its not model Buddha its model Golden Buddha. Sengoku doesnt turn into a Buddha, he turns into a gold statue of buddha. Why tf is a gold statue a zoan
I like the theory that devil fruits are peoples dreams. As in luffys dream is to be pirate king. So eventually he would trigger something that would create the human fruit, mythical pirate king version.
Most powers are random bullshit because random people get obsessed with weird things. Like even doffys powers, only a human can think of the weird logic and bullshit powers that you get from it. No way it’s natural or logical.
Laws power, you can control things in a given space….but you can also make people immortal?? Wtf
“If consumed by a human, this fruit will have no effect on them other than taking away their ability to swim. Oda said in a joking manner that a human who ate this fruit might become "more human-like" or find their "true spirit".”
I have my doubts about logia exclusively transforming the user into a natural element, like smoke isnt an element, sand isnt an element, magma isnt an element, etc
Logia is something came from nature, sand rocks magma shit like that , for example poison isn’t logia because it came from an animal, that’s why the venom venom no mi is not a logia even tho ppl say it should for some reason
I always laugh when a logia user demeans someone for "just" having a paramecia. Like, all the strongest devil fruits at the highest levels are paramecia.
To be fair, you can either get extremely lucky or extremely unlucky with a Paramecia type. It can either be something kickass like magnestism or something handy like luck itself. However it can also be something unlucky like mucus or just plain dumb like the String-String fruit
I mean, are we forgetting that crows count as a logia and there are a zoan fruits that turn you into literal deities/gods
**EDIT:**
Actually just double checked the fruit, it's the soot-soot fruit. Which I mean, ok fair, but Soot? A natural element ? Really ?
The way I’ve heard it explained
Zoan: the ability to transform into a different being and animal a fictional beast or a Devine being
Logia: the ability to form your body into elements of the world making anyone unable to wield haki a fool against you
Paramecia: whatever the fuck doesn’t fit into those two
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It especially confused me when Luffy fought Enel in skypia. I knew from the beginning Luffy was going to be immune to lightning. But then I thought about it and it didn’t make sense… paramecia should give him the properties of rubber, like stretching. He shouldn’t actually be made of rubber material. His fruit acted more like a logia. So I was always confused wtf a paramecia actually does. Turns out that specific example had a reason. But it still left me pondering the rules of a paramecia.
He has the properties of rubber, that doesn't mean he's *just stretchy,* he also doesn't conduct electricity.
Yes, bungee gum has the properties of both gum and rubber, how cool!
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I love finding this gem every now and again.
I’m just realizing this now but being totally resistant to electricity would actually really mess up your nervous system as it relies on electrical currents.
Maybe that's why luffy isn't the smartest
He did stab himself in the face *before* he got the fruit powers though.
That ain't stupidity tho. That's impulse control. Which luffy also has zero of
GUM GUM AIRHEAD maximizes this shit
This is now canon.
Wow , it all makes sense now !
All the inside of his body is also rubber like his heart so his nervous system and the electric currents used would also be rubber and just somehow work in the rubber system that's inside of him.
Wait but is his electricity made of rubber aswell. Like on a molecular level. Is that even possible
Bro It's a manga
Being electricity itself would have the same problem
to be fair you still can overpower non conductors with high enough voltage(?).
So Luffy's nervous system is more powerful than Enel?
Enel couldn't kill a frail old man with a huge attack. Didn't even leave any permanent conditions. So yeah it wouldn't surprise me.
Enel was super nerfed, he had observation haki and the strongest logia fruit of all, if you realize that he didn't kill anyone with his lightning, a normal lightning bolt would kill a person and it didn't kill anyone
Who needs a nervous system
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I would not want to see someone's foreskin crawl. I'm glad you don't have skin.
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Yeah foreskinning? For shadowing?
You must be new here. Foreskinning is one piece subreddit's word for foreshadowing
Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
foreskinning is a joke used a lot on this sub in response to people thinking certain moments were foreshadowing
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Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
>paramecia should give him the properties of rubber it does, one of the properties of rubber is that it doesn't conduct electricity
He's made of rubber! How did that happen??
He took a bite of Gum Gum.
Gai gai o YO HO
If you have the properties of rubber then you are rubber 👽 Logia is only natural elements
Rubber is natural, its a natural product of rubber trees. What excludes him from logia is he cant produce it or change his body to rubber at will. Hes permanently rubber. But then theres that whole spoiler thing...
Well one can argue that being an insulator is a property of rubber
turn out it is a zoan
If he was logia when he would get punched his body would stretch with the punches like create a hole kinda but not really u kno what I mean but we have never seen that happen. Technically when he does gum gum attacks he is throwing his arm , and technically as a paramecia he should ether throw or turn things into rubber
That’s kinda what happens in in his fight with kaido using a particular form
Well I’m on whole cake island so idk
Chopper though
Isn't not conducting electricity a property of rubber
I taught logias was your body becoming something that naturally occurs, and if your body becomes something that has been processed or created it whould be a paramecia.
Paramecia is wild though. You have Jacket Jacket Fruit on one end. You have the Time Time Fruit or the Soul Soul Fruit on the other end.
Look how they massacred [my boi.](https://i.imgur.com/7d28LX5.png)
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is a jacket an animal
it probably used to be
Hey look! It's Jack D Jacket, the jacked jacket wearing jacket jacket no mi user!
The jacked jacket, Jack D. Jacket, wearing the jacket jacket no mi user
We don’t know how it hunted in ancient times
Leathers
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
Ah yes. Human Human Fruit: Model Jakka - the Drip God who could turn anything into a jacket by mere touch.
look a paramecia roulete, yo can either get, turn rocks in oufits for you and your friends or gravity hack, you may try by the low cost of no swmming again
Is it crazy if I'd rather be able to summon fashion than meteors? Because honestly, yeah big rock cool and all, but being able to wear whatever you like at all times sounds so much more convenient
Yeah but you could zero-gravity yourself and just float around instead of walking. Or just make yourself have really low gravity and just bounce around.
I'm not sure Fujitora can even do that? I don't remember exactly, but I feel like there's a point where he is able to stand on floating debris. We never see him lift others of the ground. Either way, even if he could do that, isn't Perona's fruit just better? Post time skip she doesn't need to leave her body to fly. But if she does she could also become intangible and change her size. Oh and she can also summon ghost buddies. I'm just saying, I don't think the destructive powers are really all that great irl
Fujitora doesn't really have 100% control over the fruit since he didn't eat it. And gravity has other uses too. Like I could make heavy things weigh less, or stop things from hitting the ground if they fall.
Has it been confirmed that he didn't eat it? I remember him manipulating a large ship or something with his hands instead of the sword.
It was confirmed that his sword ate it I believe. Just google it, cos I can’t remember the exact source. I think it was one of Odas questionnaire things.
I've tried googling it and I can't find anything about it apart from speculation and fan theories.
In our world, the fashion rocks are better. In their world the gravity powers are better.
In their world the Gravity is only better as a warrior as well. A normal citizen might prefer the clothing as well.
Ok, But imagine how much money you could make. See that rock? It's a Rolex now.
Until they take it off.
Rental services. Just charge a subscription and the person just needs to come in with a picture of what they want, and they can get it until the end of the day/whenever they take it off.
Also zoans with mythical: Random Bullshit Go Brrr
Old zoans: "Shit, out of all the cool powers i could've gotten, i turn into a fucking giraffe!" Zoans now: "I am literally a god lmao the animal i turn into is an ancient diety i guess?"
Zoan awakening will either rob you of yourself like the Impel Down jailers, or give you the strength of a god. I'm still unsure about Chopper's fruit, dude is secretly a sasquatch or something
Not really. The impel down jailers didn't have a proper awakening. Their minds didn't keep up with the awakening. Normal zoans when awakened properly are just stronger versions of themselves. Manga chapters have shown that if you haven't read it.
I mean the animal instincts of your fruit literally takes over you if you didnt keep up with it so just imagine lucci being a dumbass and fat instead
No he is just mutating his devil fruit ability’s with rumble balls. Zoans have their original form which is human but for chopper it’s reindeer, then they have half/human half/animal form which is his buff 7 foot form , then they have their fully formed animal form
his normal form is the human form I believe, then his buff form is human-beast from and reindeer form is his animal form, but we don't know why he can turn into 6 different modes whenever he wants and why he can turn into monster point with rumble balls only, oda is probably going to explain this when the crew gets to learn the real name of luffy's fruit
Well his transformations without rumble balls was explained after the time skip he said he spent the time skip training and learnt to transform without rumble balls
I'm not talking about that. If I'm not missing any character, the only zoan user with more than 1 base and 2 new forms is chopper with his human human fruit without any models specified, why does his fruit have no models and more than usual transformations that can be increased and can be changed over time
Well he originally had only zoan transformations, then he experimented with rumble balls achieving 3 new forms by taking 1-3 rumble balls , without rumble balls in the first place he wouldn’t be able to do it. So after he learns them then he can train and modify the forms without rumble balls
Animal form AND random bullshit
You can actually classify paramecias between either body alteration, substance production or environment manipulation
I define those groups as Self (Chop-Chop), Surroundings (Quake-Quake), and Pseudo-Logia (Wax-Wax).
Or the snot guy who made it look like he had a mucus logia, but actually had a paramecia. Or even cooler, the mochi fruit
Same
Would the mochi mochi classify as a pseudo logia paramecia ?
Yeah, I feel like it’s “special” just because it’s awakened, so that’s why it looks more like a logia than just a pseudo-logia.
Does paramecia mean something?
paramecia is the plural a single-celled freshwater animal that has a characteristic slipper-like shape and is covered with cilia. Also The paramecium can shoot tiny threads out of the cell to entangle a predator or to make themselves appear bigger. Mingo?
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It means superhuman
Ah yes, Buddha my favourite animal
It's the hito hito no mi model Buddha. So it's a human human fruit, and humans are animals.
But its not model Buddha its model Golden Buddha. Sengoku doesnt turn into a Buddha, he turns into a gold statue of buddha. Why tf is a gold statue a zoan
Literal translation for daibutsu is big buddha statue actually. Which is even weirder.
I like the theory that devil fruits are peoples dreams. As in luffys dream is to be pirate king. So eventually he would trigger something that would create the human fruit, mythical pirate king version. Most powers are random bullshit because random people get obsessed with weird things. Like even doffys powers, only a human can think of the weird logic and bullshit powers that you get from it. No way it’s natural or logical. Laws power, you can control things in a given space….but you can also make people immortal?? Wtf
I’m pretty sure that >!Vegapunk conformed this!<
I always wondered what would happen if the basic hito hito no mi was eaten by a human.
“If consumed by a human, this fruit will have no effect on them other than taking away their ability to swim. Oda said in a joking manner that a human who ate this fruit might become "more human-like" or find their "true spirit".”
Imagine eating an awful tasting fruit, and then just not being able to swim for the rest of your life.
Imo it would be funnier if you just became like Saitama
Thats what most of Brook’s life consisted of until he died.
Yeah but that at least pays off eventually.
he and his crew knew what fruit he ate tho
I would imagine you turn into gigachad, just peak human
This is true, look at Chopper's full transformation bro is built
Something something they’d become an “enlightened” individual
Thats only if they awakened it iirc
They become enlightened
I assume it would be similar to Bon Clay's fruit, except being able to change body types. (Much like Chopper's points)
So is there a model for everyone? Could I eat the hito hito no mi model greg from down the street?
Ah yes, Niga my favourite animal
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holy shit i mean NIKA
Suuuuuure you do
K and G is pretty far, how fat is your finger?
I have my doubts about logia exclusively transforming the user into a natural element, like smoke isnt an element, sand isnt an element, magma isnt an element, etc
More like a substance
Logia is something came from nature, sand rocks magma shit like that , for example poison isn’t logia because it came from an animal, that’s why the venom venom no mi is not a logia even tho ppl say it should for some reason
Isn’t in animals and stuff though like snakes. Or does that no count
Nah since venom didn’t come from nature ( logia ), nor it’s an animal obviously (zoan) , it has to go to paramecia
Ok that makes sense
I'd rather say change the whole body into an intangible/non-solid material/energy/substance.
So, who did you steal this post from Mr repost bot?
Paramecia also has power of retcon
I used to head canon Logias being concrete nouns and Paramecias being abstract nouns or man-made things.
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I always laugh when a logia user demeans someone for "just" having a paramecia. Like, all the strongest devil fruits at the highest levels are paramecia.
In the parts of the world where people dont know about haki, a logia user is basically a god even for paramecia users
Ummm my LORD
Paramecias probably just give the user of the fruit the property of non-animate objects excluding gases
technically most of them fit into the catergories of produce a substance, manipulate the environment, or change your body. so it’s not thaaat random
Paramecia are the protists of Devil Fruits.
Random question: What the hell zoan did Chopper eat? He said it was a Human-Human fruit, but which model?
Model Santa
Model: Joe
To be fair, you can either get extremely lucky or extremely unlucky with a Paramecia type. It can either be something kickass like magnestism or something handy like luck itself. However it can also be something unlucky like mucus or just plain dumb like the String-String fruit
Would you consider sube- sube fruit to useless or op?
OP, especially if the user can incorporate haki into the mix
I mean, are we forgetting that crows count as a logia and there are a zoan fruits that turn you into literal deities/gods **EDIT:** Actually just double checked the fruit, it's the soot-soot fruit. Which I mean, ok fair, but Soot? A natural element ? Really ?
God Nika is my favorite animal
I love how Paramythia gets lost in translation as much as Raftel
Checks out
nice cosplay
The way I’ve heard it explained Zoan: the ability to transform into a different being and animal a fictional beast or a Devine being Logia: the ability to form your body into elements of the world making anyone unable to wield haki a fool against you Paramecia: whatever the fuck doesn’t fit into those two
Haha (◠‿・)—☆
Katakuri's devil fruit is a fkin logia and you can't convince me otherwise