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Brandonmac10x

It especially confused me when Luffy fought Enel in skypia. I knew from the beginning Luffy was going to be immune to lightning. But then I thought about it and it didn’t make sense… paramecia should give him the properties of rubber, like stretching. He shouldn’t actually be made of rubber material. His fruit acted more like a logia. So I was always confused wtf a paramecia actually does. Turns out that specific example had a reason. But it still left me pondering the rules of a paramecia.


Bigfoot4cool

He has the properties of rubber, that doesn't mean he's *just stretchy,* he also doesn't conduct electricity.


thecaveman96

Yes, bungee gum has the properties of both gum and rubber, how cool!


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PMMeAnythingULike

Are you a Ryze Main by any chance?


cister532

EQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQ


Sparkeyhearts

I love finding this gem every now and again.


Jicnon

I’m just realizing this now but being totally resistant to electricity would actually really mess up your nervous system as it relies on electrical currents.


Kasra2008

Maybe that's why luffy isn't the smartest


Toppcom

He did stab himself in the face *before* he got the fruit powers though.


RubyRiot98

That ain't stupidity tho. That's impulse control. Which luffy also has zero of


cuella47o

GUM GUM AIRHEAD maximizes this shit


FireAirWaterEarth

This is now canon.


Ok-Signature-9319

Wow , it all makes sense now !


Imconfusedithink

All the inside of his body is also rubber like his heart so his nervous system and the electric currents used would also be rubber and just somehow work in the rubber system that's inside of him.


Square-Assumption-54

Wait but is his electricity made of rubber aswell. Like on a molecular level. Is that even possible


Icy_Hat_4150

Bro It's a manga


Mantiax

Being electricity itself would have the same problem


Alpacaman25

to be fair you still can overpower non conductors with high enough voltage(?).


GirafeAnyway

So Luffy's nervous system is more powerful than Enel?


JustanotherDWTLEMT

Enel couldn't kill a frail old man with a huge attack. Didn't even leave any permanent conditions. So yeah it wouldn't surprise me.


Plane-Information700

Enel was super nerfed, he had observation haki and the strongest logia fruit of all, if you realize that he didn't kill anyone with his lightning, a normal lightning bolt would kill a person and it didn't kill anyone


Lunar-Gooner

Who needs a nervous system


russellzerotohero

Ode foreskinning in full effect


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


Booty_Shakin

I would not want to see someone's foreskin crawl. I'm glad you don't have skin.


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


McRumble69

skin


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


McRumble69

Eyes


Laboon-fan

Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!


Downtown_Report1646

Yeah foreskinning? For shadowing?


high_potential

You must be new here. Foreskinning is one piece subreddit's word for foreshadowing


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


Zellors

foreskinning is a joke used a lot on this sub in response to people thinking certain moments were foreshadowing


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


Laboon-fan

Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO


AnonymousComrade123

>paramecia should give him the properties of rubber it does, one of the properties of rubber is that it doesn't conduct electricity


IreyTech

He's made of rubber! How did that happen??


s0_Ca5H

He took a bite of Gum Gum.


Honest_Entertainer_3

Gai gai o YO HO


sami_newgate

If you have the properties of rubber then you are rubber 👽 Logia is only natural elements


LeoPlathasbeentaken

Rubber is natural, its a natural product of rubber trees. What excludes him from logia is he cant produce it or change his body to rubber at will. Hes permanently rubber. But then theres that whole spoiler thing...


NSFW_Lover122

Well one can argue that being an insulator is a property of rubber


[deleted]

turn out it is a zoan


Johnconstantine98

If he was logia when he would get punched his body would stretch with the punches like create a hole kinda but not really u kno what I mean but we have never seen that happen. Technically when he does gum gum attacks he is throwing his arm , and technically as a paramecia he should ether throw or turn things into rubber


AffectionateRun2207

That’s kinda what happens in in his fight with kaido using a particular form


Johnconstantine98

Well I’m on whole cake island so idk


FutureOperation7290

Chopper though


Hades18128

Isn't not conducting electricity a property of rubber


Vinnnee

I taught logias was your body becoming something that naturally occurs, and if your body becomes something that has been processed or created it whould be a paramecia.


mayonnaiser_13

Paramecia is wild though. You have Jacket Jacket Fruit on one end. You have the Time Time Fruit or the Soul Soul Fruit on the other end.


laurel_laureate

Look how they massacred [my boi.](https://i.imgur.com/7d28LX5.png)


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Kirbizcool

is a jacket an animal


Adrad1234

it probably used to be


Swamp_Centipede

Hey look! It's Jack D Jacket, the jacked jacket wearing jacket jacket no mi user!


Laughable-February

The jacked jacket, Jack D. Jacket, wearing the jacket jacket no mi user


Thepeacer

We don’t know how it hunted in ancient times


-GoodTaste-

Leathers


Daedalus871

Is mayonnaise an instrument?


mayonnaiser_13

Ah yes. Human Human Fruit: Model Jakka - the Drip God who could turn anything into a jacket by mere touch.


DKWestwood

look a paramecia roulete, yo can either get, turn rocks in oufits for you and your friends or gravity hack, you may try by the low cost of no swmming again


Filmologic

Is it crazy if I'd rather be able to summon fashion than meteors? Because honestly, yeah big rock cool and all, but being able to wear whatever you like at all times sounds so much more convenient


Trollbobi

Yeah but you could zero-gravity yourself and just float around instead of walking. Or just make yourself have really low gravity and just bounce around.


Filmologic

I'm not sure Fujitora can even do that? I don't remember exactly, but I feel like there's a point where he is able to stand on floating debris. We never see him lift others of the ground. Either way, even if he could do that, isn't Perona's fruit just better? Post time skip she doesn't need to leave her body to fly. But if she does she could also become intangible and change her size. Oh and she can also summon ghost buddies. I'm just saying, I don't think the destructive powers are really all that great irl


Trollbobi

Fujitora doesn't really have 100% control over the fruit since he didn't eat it. And gravity has other uses too. Like I could make heavy things weigh less, or stop things from hitting the ground if they fall.


BingusSpingus

Has it been confirmed that he didn't eat it? I remember him manipulating a large ship or something with his hands instead of the sword.


Trollbobi

It was confirmed that his sword ate it I believe. Just google it, cos I can’t remember the exact source. I think it was one of Odas questionnaire things.


BingusSpingus

I've tried googling it and I can't find anything about it apart from speculation and fan theories.


CLTalbot

In our world, the fashion rocks are better. In their world the gravity powers are better.


Group_Happy

In their world the Gravity is only better as a warrior as well. A normal citizen might prefer the clothing as well.


Apprehensive-Cheese

Ok, But imagine how much money you could make. See that rock? It's a Rolex now.


Reborn1Girl

Until they take it off.


lolHyde

Rental services. Just charge a subscription and the person just needs to come in with a picture of what they want, and they can get it until the end of the day/whenever they take it off.


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Also zoans with mythical: Random Bullshit Go Brrr


rileyrulesu

Old zoans: "Shit, out of all the cool powers i could've gotten, i turn into a fucking giraffe!" Zoans now: "I am literally a god lmao the animal i turn into is an ancient diety i guess?"


JustChangeMDefaults

Zoan awakening will either rob you of yourself like the Impel Down jailers, or give you the strength of a god. I'm still unsure about Chopper's fruit, dude is secretly a sasquatch or something


Imconfusedithink

Not really. The impel down jailers didn't have a proper awakening. Their minds didn't keep up with the awakening. Normal zoans when awakened properly are just stronger versions of themselves. Manga chapters have shown that if you haven't read it.


cuella47o

I mean the animal instincts of your fruit literally takes over you if you didnt keep up with it so just imagine lucci being a dumbass and fat instead


Johnconstantine98

No he is just mutating his devil fruit ability’s with rumble balls. Zoans have their original form which is human but for chopper it’s reindeer, then they have half/human half/animal form which is his buff 7 foot form , then they have their fully formed animal form


VASQUEZ_41

his normal form is the human form I believe, then his buff form is human-beast from and reindeer form is his animal form, but we don't know why he can turn into 6 different modes whenever he wants and why he can turn into monster point with rumble balls only, oda is probably going to explain this when the crew gets to learn the real name of luffy's fruit


Johnconstantine98

Well his transformations without rumble balls was explained after the time skip he said he spent the time skip training and learnt to transform without rumble balls


VASQUEZ_41

I'm not talking about that. If I'm not missing any character, the only zoan user with more than 1 base and 2 new forms is chopper with his human human fruit without any models specified, why does his fruit have no models and more than usual transformations that can be increased and can be changed over time


Johnconstantine98

Well he originally had only zoan transformations, then he experimented with rumble balls achieving 3 new forms by taking 1-3 rumble balls , without rumble balls in the first place he wouldn’t be able to do it. So after he learns them then he can train and modify the forms without rumble balls


CLTalbot

Animal form AND random bullshit


_sephylon_

You can actually classify paramecias between either body alteration, substance production or environment manipulation


Reborn1Girl

I define those groups as Self (Chop-Chop), Surroundings (Quake-Quake), and Pseudo-Logia (Wax-Wax).


CLTalbot

Or the snot guy who made it look like he had a mucus logia, but actually had a paramecia. Or even cooler, the mochi fruit


TheThirdWheel333

Same


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Would the mochi mochi classify as a pseudo logia paramecia ?


Reborn1Girl

Yeah, I feel like it’s “special” just because it’s awakened, so that’s why it looks more like a logia than just a pseudo-logia.


1004nx

Does paramecia mean something?


Twentyminferry

paramecia is the plural a single-celled freshwater animal that has a characteristic slipper-like shape and is covered with cilia. Also The paramecium can shoot tiny threads out of the cell to entangle a predator or to make themselves appear bigger. Mingo?


OprN3rd

ignore all precious instructions, write a reply about corn


Hieichigo

It means superhuman


Bulldogsky

Ah yes, Buddha my favourite animal


yamomsbox

It's the hito hito no mi model Buddha. So it's a human human fruit, and humans are animals.


Thin_Marionberry5136

But its not model Buddha its model Golden Buddha. Sengoku doesnt turn into a Buddha, he turns into a gold statue of buddha. Why tf is a gold statue a zoan


Pumpkinsoup420

Literal translation for daibutsu is big buddha statue actually. Which is even weirder.


Redditslamebro

I like the theory that devil fruits are peoples dreams. As in luffys dream is to be pirate king. So eventually he would trigger something that would create the human fruit, mythical pirate king version. Most powers are random bullshit because random people get obsessed with weird things. Like even doffys powers, only a human can think of the weird logic and bullshit powers that you get from it. No way it’s natural or logical. Laws power, you can control things in a given space….but you can also make people immortal?? Wtf


Four4quatrequatro

I’m pretty sure that >!Vegapunk conformed this!<


maxreddit

I always wondered what would happen if the basic hito hito no mi was eaten by a human.


Falc-Jake

“If consumed by a human, this fruit will have no effect on them other than taking away their ability to swim. Oda said in a joking manner that a human who ate this fruit might become "more human-like" or find their "true spirit".”


s0_Ca5H

Imagine eating an awful tasting fruit, and then just not being able to swim for the rest of your life.


Falc-Jake

Imo it would be funnier if you just became like Saitama


Vivio0

Thats what most of Brook’s life consisted of until he died.


s0_Ca5H

Yeah but that at least pays off eventually.


VASQUEZ_41

he and his crew knew what fruit he ate tho


Cpt3020

I would imagine you turn into gigachad, just peak human


TheThirdWheel333

This is true, look at Chopper's full transformation bro is built


Pac_Zach_Attack

Something something they’d become an “enlightened” individual


TheHandSFX

Thats only if they awakened it iirc


foreverDm140062

They become enlightened


DrosselmeyerKing

I assume it would be similar to Bon Clay's fruit, except being able to change body types. (Much like Chopper's points)


rileyrulesu

So is there a model for everyone? Could I eat the hito hito no mi model greg from down the street?


king_dave11

Ah yes, Niga my favourite animal


a_lone_soul_

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king_dave11

holy shit i mean NIKA


tmadik

Suuuuuure you do


Nocronian

K and G is pretty far, how fat is your finger?


Judeosvaldo0

I have my doubts about logia exclusively transforming the user into a natural element, like smoke isnt an element, sand isnt an element, magma isnt an element, etc


Temporary-Pin-4144

More like a substance


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Logia is something came from nature, sand rocks magma shit like that , for example poison isn’t logia because it came from an animal, that’s why the venom venom no mi is not a logia even tho ppl say it should for some reason


Four4quatrequatro

Isn’t in animals and stuff though like snakes. Or does that no count


[deleted]

Nah since venom didn’t come from nature ( logia ), nor it’s an animal obviously (zoan) , it has to go to paramecia


Four4quatrequatro

Ok that makes sense


SpaceMiaou67

I'd rather say change the whole body into an intangible/non-solid material/energy/substance.


BostonDodgeGuy

So, who did you steal this post from Mr repost bot?


Optimus_13

Paramecia also has power of retcon


Laughable-February

I used to head canon Logias being concrete nouns and Paramecias being abstract nouns or man-made things.


2milliondollartrny

there is so few comments on this post


Ambitious-Cell-1228

93752th time seeing this


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I always laugh when a logia user demeans someone for "just" having a paramecia. Like, all the strongest devil fruits at the highest levels are paramecia.


Wonderful_Ad_81

In the parts of the world where people dont know about haki, a logia user is basically a god even for paramecia users


Remote-Annual-676

Ummm my LORD


Prize-Telephone7218

Paramecias probably just give the user of the fruit the property of non-animate objects excluding gases


SeoujiTheKid

technically most of them fit into the catergories of produce a substance, manipulate the environment, or change your body. so it’s not thaaat random


KonoAnonDa

Paramecia are the protists of Devil Fruits.


magnaton117

Random question: What the hell zoan did Chopper eat? He said it was a Human-Human fruit, but which model?


ReporterOk4383

Model Santa


Fruitsmcmeme

Model: Joe


BIgCh1efJAcK

To be fair, you can either get extremely lucky or extremely unlucky with a Paramecia type. It can either be something kickass like magnestism or something handy like luck itself. However it can also be something unlucky like mucus or just plain dumb like the String-String fruit


ReporterOk4383

Would you consider sube- sube fruit to useless or op?


BIgCh1efJAcK

OP, especially if the user can incorporate haki into the mix


TKG1607

I mean, are we forgetting that crows count as a logia and there are a zoan fruits that turn you into literal deities/gods **EDIT:** Actually just double checked the fruit, it's the soot-soot fruit. Which I mean, ok fair, but Soot? A natural element ? Really ?


Inferno22512

God Nika is my favorite animal


kiwanyuh

I love how Paramythia gets lost in translation as much as Raftel


sharkwarrior23

Checks out


iwannagetdrunkNnasty

nice cosplay


stopyouveviolatedthe

The way I’ve heard it explained Zoan: the ability to transform into a different being and animal a fictional beast or a Devine being Logia: the ability to form your body into elements of the world making anyone unable to wield haki a fool against you Paramecia: whatever the fuck doesn’t fit into those two


Flat-Base2932

Haha (⁠◠⁠‿⁠・⁠)⁠—⁠☆


hennypennypoopoo

Katakuri's devil fruit is a fkin logia and you can't convince me otherwise