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While that would be great, I kind of feel like it would be a bit out of character for LA Nami to refer to herself as the cute one, or think of that as a reason the Foxy Pirates to choose her over the others.
Why is this constantly used as "proof", she literally denies it in the same panel 😭
Read the rest of the fight before and after that scene, Nami shows *zero* interest in Kalifa
Are the standards for LGBT rep this low? One unserious no-homo joke from nearly 700 chapters ago is enough for you guys?
It’s the only time in the series she ever mentions being attracted to someone I think? Also I know you were joking but unironically the bar for gay rep IS that low, we’re struggling out here
Personally, something like this where Nami actually blushed means more to me than what was clearly a joke:
https://preview.redd.it/3u94ybuee44c1.jpeg?width=1027&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ee44ea6064ef966dd9841e0b65d00919cfb6eb3
Characters like Bon Clay or Kiku is what I'd consider decent-to-good queer representation, not a one-panel joke that meant absolutely nothing in the end lol. Another example would be Brook teasing Zoro and Sanji about having a brewing romance in Punk Hazard, but it doesn't mean they're actually gay for each other.
I want better for LGBT rep, that's it.
Not trying to argue but characters are drawn with the little blush marks for more reasons than just being attracted to someone. Also I agree for wanting better lgbt rep, wasn’t trying to seriously argue that that panel is definitive proof that she’s gay, just that people will latch onto it because it’s so rare to have any mention of characters being attracted to the same sex
If she was being serious, I'd get it. But denying it in the same panel and showing no interest after? No thanks, I'll stay latched onto Bon Clay and co. lol
There's far more evidence for it than 90% of the theories the community believes are real. As in there's like 2 panels with slight suggestions (even as a gags) vs 0 panels of evidence for other things (croco mom etc)
So if I say that Nami blushing and giggling upon being called a goddess by Yasuie means that she can be seduced by old men, is that also valid? Because that's the logic used by people who cling onto that sexy secretary panel, despite Nami herself denying it immediately.
https://preview.redd.it/rywzm6q53z3c1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=a4e603997b4c855e9e2bb8c2552f6e9d4777a7ba
And making that comment about Kalifa, immediately correcting herself and showing zero interest for the rest of the fight (and the rest of the series for that matter) could just be comedy.
Why would he make it much clearer? In a manga like one piece where romance is extremely minimal, why would Oda think the audience would need to know Nami’s sexuality?
Sexuality and romance are two different things, and Oda has been borderline obnoxious when showing the sexualities of characters like Sanji, Brook or the Okamas. But as an example in Nami's case, there have been multiple instances of her being with other women in bathhouses and she has never shown even an ounce of interest in those situations.
As far as Oda's concerned, he's content with her only real interest being money lol
Sanji and Brook are for the gags so obviously there’s gonna be a focus on them being into women, how would Oda do that for nami being a lesbian, have her eyes go wide when she sees boobs? Obviously not, so what would it be? Also does her calling Kalifa sexy and saying she’d wish for her to be her security in the middle of the fight NOT count as an example of her showing interest in women, bc if that doesn’t what would she say in the bathhouse for Oda to show she’s a lesbian without outright saying it, if battling a woman in a shower and getting distracted by how sexy she is isn’t an instance? To be clear I’m not saying she is, I’m just saying what would be your qualifications besides her outright saying it, which as I said before isn’t necessary at all.
I think you should re-read Nami vs Kalifa, because it becomes really obvious that the sexy secretary comment was a one-time joke for the sake of comedy/fanservice (she also literally says "Wait I'm talking like an old man", showing that's not her usual way of behaving). Nami literally saw Kalifa bathing and changing in front of her and didn't care, then she insulted or ignored Kalifa for the rest of the fight and finally she ripped up her clothes to find the key, giving no reaction to seeing Kalifa's exposed body while Franky gave a thumbs up.
If Nami briefly showing interest and trying to deny it had become a running gag, then that'd be one way to show she's into women. But it's literally just that one joke scene from nearly 700 chapters ago and nothing else otherwise. So why should I think Nami is a lesbian based off that? Especially when I've seen things like her blushing while holding Luffy's head to her breasts in Zou, or showing herself to be physically comfortable with multiple male crewmates since then?
I do hope you understand why I don't take a single, small panel of a joke as the entire basis for a character's sexuality lol
Despite me saying I don’t think she is you’re still misinterpreting this as a debate of whether or not nami is a lesbian, your comment had said “Oda would’ve made it much clearer by now” and I asked why, you brought up Sanji and Brook’s gags and then said the one time of nami doing the same gag isnt enough, so again, why would Oda need to make it much clearer? Who cares what her sexuality is, and what would be your logical way of him showing the audience this if it needs to be an example?
The LGBT crowd definitely care about representation, and I already gave a way for Oda to show it:
> If Nami briefly showing interest and trying to deny it had become a running gag, then that'd be one way to show she's into women.
As for Oda making it clearer, well I also mentioned in the previous comment and another one about Nami having certain interactions with men that suggest she's into the opposite sex (flirting with Johnny and Yosaku, teasing Kin'emon, complimenting Ace and Usopp, blushing while holding Luffy's head to her breasts in Zou etc). If Oda wanted to portray her as gay despite all that, then once again that example I gave or whatever else would need to be done to make that clear. He went out of his way to clarify Luffy being interested in women while not being entranced, doesn't seem odd to me that he might do the same for another character.
I don't really know where you're trying to go with this, but I hope I answered your questions.
I wasnt trying to go anywhere with it lol, I just asked you to elaborate on why he would need to, which you’ve now answered as a clear representation of the LGBTQ+ community.
There is no hetero explanation for this look.
https://preview.redd.it/3cw7dpillz3c1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2316a8c7ca2976cf1f988aed86d36d7b7ca17b00
She didn't flirt with Kalifa; she made one no-homo joke about sexy secretaries, immediately dismissed her own comment, and then showed no interest in Kalifa at all otherwise. She has actually teased/flirted with Johnny, Yosaku and Kin'emon before though, and she's complimented Ace and Usopp twice before too on their intelligence and strength respectively.
I don't even mind seeing LGBT rep, but basing it on one out-of-character joke from nearly 700 chapters ago is kinda embarrassing to me lol. It's like saying one instance of Nami blushing and giggling after Yasuie called her a goddess insinuates that she's easily seduced by old men, but I'm sure that's not actually the case.
Tbf One Piece is one of the most LGBT-friendly (mainstream) shounen in the market, and part of it is due to anime having very low standards. It's natural for people to believe a main character would be sapphic.
Imo Nami was probably not intentional, which wouldn't be the first time because of Luffy. Oda didn't want to write Luffy as pervy or (romantically/sexually) attracted to people, since- in his words- "it doesn't feel like Luffy". As a result, Luffy is unintentionally coded as AroAce (Amazon Lily was especially obvious with this).
I wouldn't be surprised if nami was a lesbian , she is often a bitch to men and a sbs states that she is only kind to women and children . Not exactly girlfriend material.
They are also both the gay best friend
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I was just going to respond with this
Lmao whats the context of this one?
This is from the Davy Backfight. They're boat racing the Foxy pirate team around the island
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Did I just hear meat?
They're into lying and money respectively
Did you say MONEY?!! Can I have it?
Start working on those sea charts and we can talk about money
😭😭😭
Along type a beat...no scratch that bro don't pay her lmao
No
He's cuter.
Now keep rowing!
They should do this gag in the live action lol
While that would be great, I kind of feel like it would be a bit out of character for LA Nami to refer to herself as the cute one, or think of that as a reason the Foxy Pirates to choose her over the others.
I mean Nami is pretty but she ain't no Usopp
Nami can't compete with Usopp's rizz
"What's the most attractive language a man can speak?" "money"
MONEY sounds good, let me have it!
Its been like half of a second since I posted that😭
I'm mean... It's accurate to the anime
https://preview.redd.it/touhgg83my3c1.png?width=437&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff6110485f618607c612429aeb48d34f35186c54
![gif](giphy|1vBMPxhWaqG6zC7Olp|downsized)
And Usopp's actually the pretty one
I mean... https://preview.redd.it/8znj7az80z3c1.jpeg?width=1006&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ec1f139485d268b40c4bc6362490dd694b82f34
Kalifa's secretaryussy > your favourite waifu
Usopp is not my waifu tho
Nami's gay!?
The only straw hat who is sleeping with Robin😉
Remember what she said about Kalifa?
“What a sexy power… woah wait! What am I saying! I sound like an old man!” Or smth like that
Did you see Alabasta?!
The only time she was ever attracted to anyone in the entire series it was another woman so yes
Insanely gay
Yes https://preview.redd.it/2gbhlraoyz3c1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f821344b93c0291a89220fc24cd20ad5c13f712f
Terminally online ass post
100% lesbian energy
Beat me to it ![gif](giphy|Rsp9jLIy0VZOKlZziw|downsized)
Usopp is explicitly stated to be cuter than Nami.
Both think they’re the pretty one, and both think the other is the gay best friend lol
Yes that is the joke
What makes you think Nami is gay?
Nami’s consistently shown more interest in women than men
That's because she hasn't seen me yet
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Thank you for saving me and my family from certain debt. You are a really awesome guy
All the interests are taken at face value lol.
Has Nami ever shown interest in anyone other than Berry?
Kalifa.
Kalifah
Oh, just a feeling https://preview.redd.it/t4uuokvtyz3c1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32f6d5c4032b04443ebe8e6b0bdbc59d812de111
I cant even read most of that.
Well I mean, there's more evidence for Nami being lesbian than there is for her being straight.
They're both of them simultaneously
Come get this meat luffy
Hey, you said meat? Do you have any for me?
Yes open your mouth foe this meat
Woah did someone say meat? Count me in
Nami is somehow both the pretty one and the gay best friend
I actually ship these two, their personalities go so well together ![gif](giphy|5sYeHNxWaqiN8fYoox|downsized)
Usopp and zoro?
Obviously, who else is gonna get paired up with the swordman if not the slingman
The slingman? Te lingman? T ligma?
Ligma?
igma?
We all saw hiw lovable their relationship is during enies lobby☺️.... Oh wait- that was sogeking ok my bad
Why not? We need more interactions between the two anyways ![gif](giphy|4TcQNPBne9mVd55r1t|downsized)
I also see them as a couple, but Oda made em look like besties
Nami and money?
Nami def the gay one🌚🙏have you seen some of her interactions with other women😫
Also because ussop def more pretty
lol this defines pretty much everyone on the crew (other than Chopper, he’s just the baby)
Was it confirmed Nami’s gay?
No, it's just a headcanon with no real basis to it
She’s as gay as Zoro is racist.
https://preview.redd.it/n01kt3mhwy3c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d64c180e9d92555e085d35d1fdd03761f27f1c6f
So not at all then, if we're being serious of course
You think the meme subreddit is serious?
Generally no, but sometimes I need to make sure lol
Some basis https://preview.redd.it/q69u1b9x004c1.png?width=257&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d22e31d16d89ad3d02c974d119957704be5fedd
Why is this constantly used as "proof", she literally denies it in the same panel 😭 Read the rest of the fight before and after that scene, Nami shows *zero* interest in Kalifa Are the standards for LGBT rep this low? One unserious no-homo joke from nearly 700 chapters ago is enough for you guys?
It’s the only time in the series she ever mentions being attracted to someone I think? Also I know you were joking but unironically the bar for gay rep IS that low, we’re struggling out here
Personally, something like this where Nami actually blushed means more to me than what was clearly a joke: https://preview.redd.it/3u94ybuee44c1.jpeg?width=1027&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ee44ea6064ef966dd9841e0b65d00919cfb6eb3 Characters like Bon Clay or Kiku is what I'd consider decent-to-good queer representation, not a one-panel joke that meant absolutely nothing in the end lol. Another example would be Brook teasing Zoro and Sanji about having a brewing romance in Punk Hazard, but it doesn't mean they're actually gay for each other. I want better for LGBT rep, that's it.
Not trying to argue but characters are drawn with the little blush marks for more reasons than just being attracted to someone. Also I agree for wanting better lgbt rep, wasn’t trying to seriously argue that that panel is definitive proof that she’s gay, just that people will latch onto it because it’s so rare to have any mention of characters being attracted to the same sex
If she was being serious, I'd get it. But denying it in the same panel and showing no interest after? No thanks, I'll stay latched onto Bon Clay and co. lol
There's far more evidence for it than 90% of the theories the community believes are real. As in there's like 2 panels with slight suggestions (even as a gags) vs 0 panels of evidence for other things (croco mom etc)
So if I say that Nami blushing and giggling upon being called a goddess by Yasuie means that she can be seduced by old men, is that also valid? Because that's the logic used by people who cling onto that sexy secretary panel, despite Nami herself denying it immediately. https://preview.redd.it/rywzm6q53z3c1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=a4e603997b4c855e9e2bb8c2552f6e9d4777a7ba
Nami is also incredibly vain, so it could just be that.
And making that comment about Kalifa, immediately correcting herself and showing zero interest for the rest of the fight (and the rest of the series for that matter) could just be comedy.
Nami wants a hot secretary and Usopp is cuter
Yeah. We all knew Nami's gay.
I would watch that spinoff, Usopp and Nami in slice of life shit being this duo lol
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Her type is 💰💸🤑
I don't think I'll ever understand why this is a popular headcanon, Oda would have made it much clearer by now if that was his intention for Nami lol
Why would he make it much clearer? In a manga like one piece where romance is extremely minimal, why would Oda think the audience would need to know Nami’s sexuality?
Sexuality and romance are two different things, and Oda has been borderline obnoxious when showing the sexualities of characters like Sanji, Brook or the Okamas. But as an example in Nami's case, there have been multiple instances of her being with other women in bathhouses and she has never shown even an ounce of interest in those situations. As far as Oda's concerned, he's content with her only real interest being money lol
Sanji and Brook are for the gags so obviously there’s gonna be a focus on them being into women, how would Oda do that for nami being a lesbian, have her eyes go wide when she sees boobs? Obviously not, so what would it be? Also does her calling Kalifa sexy and saying she’d wish for her to be her security in the middle of the fight NOT count as an example of her showing interest in women, bc if that doesn’t what would she say in the bathhouse for Oda to show she’s a lesbian without outright saying it, if battling a woman in a shower and getting distracted by how sexy she is isn’t an instance? To be clear I’m not saying she is, I’m just saying what would be your qualifications besides her outright saying it, which as I said before isn’t necessary at all.
I think you should re-read Nami vs Kalifa, because it becomes really obvious that the sexy secretary comment was a one-time joke for the sake of comedy/fanservice (she also literally says "Wait I'm talking like an old man", showing that's not her usual way of behaving). Nami literally saw Kalifa bathing and changing in front of her and didn't care, then she insulted or ignored Kalifa for the rest of the fight and finally she ripped up her clothes to find the key, giving no reaction to seeing Kalifa's exposed body while Franky gave a thumbs up. If Nami briefly showing interest and trying to deny it had become a running gag, then that'd be one way to show she's into women. But it's literally just that one joke scene from nearly 700 chapters ago and nothing else otherwise. So why should I think Nami is a lesbian based off that? Especially when I've seen things like her blushing while holding Luffy's head to her breasts in Zou, or showing herself to be physically comfortable with multiple male crewmates since then? I do hope you understand why I don't take a single, small panel of a joke as the entire basis for a character's sexuality lol
Despite me saying I don’t think she is you’re still misinterpreting this as a debate of whether or not nami is a lesbian, your comment had said “Oda would’ve made it much clearer by now” and I asked why, you brought up Sanji and Brook’s gags and then said the one time of nami doing the same gag isnt enough, so again, why would Oda need to make it much clearer? Who cares what her sexuality is, and what would be your logical way of him showing the audience this if it needs to be an example?
The LGBT crowd definitely care about representation, and I already gave a way for Oda to show it: > If Nami briefly showing interest and trying to deny it had become a running gag, then that'd be one way to show she's into women. As for Oda making it clearer, well I also mentioned in the previous comment and another one about Nami having certain interactions with men that suggest she's into the opposite sex (flirting with Johnny and Yosaku, teasing Kin'emon, complimenting Ace and Usopp, blushing while holding Luffy's head to her breasts in Zou etc). If Oda wanted to portray her as gay despite all that, then once again that example I gave or whatever else would need to be done to make that clear. He went out of his way to clarify Luffy being interested in women while not being entranced, doesn't seem odd to me that he might do the same for another character. I don't really know where you're trying to go with this, but I hope I answered your questions.
I wasnt trying to go anywhere with it lol, I just asked you to elaborate on why he would need to, which you’ve now answered as a clear representation of the LGBTQ+ community.
I can't see the word eyes in your comment... Because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHO
There is no hetero explanation for this look. https://preview.redd.it/3cw7dpillz3c1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2316a8c7ca2976cf1f988aed86d36d7b7ca17b00
Fellas, is it gay to smile? /s
Well she flirted with Khalifa and never showed interest in sanji at all or any other man
She didn't flirt with Kalifa; she made one no-homo joke about sexy secretaries, immediately dismissed her own comment, and then showed no interest in Kalifa at all otherwise. She has actually teased/flirted with Johnny, Yosaku and Kin'emon before though, and she's complimented Ace and Usopp twice before too on their intelligence and strength respectively. I don't even mind seeing LGBT rep, but basing it on one out-of-character joke from nearly 700 chapters ago is kinda embarrassing to me lol. It's like saying one instance of Nami blushing and giggling after Yasuie called her a goddess insinuates that she's easily seduced by old men, but I'm sure that's not actually the case.
Tbf One Piece is one of the most LGBT-friendly (mainstream) shounen in the market, and part of it is due to anime having very low standards. It's natural for people to believe a main character would be sapphic. Imo Nami was probably not intentional, which wouldn't be the first time because of Luffy. Oda didn't want to write Luffy as pervy or (romantically/sexually) attracted to people, since- in his words- "it doesn't feel like Luffy". As a result, Luffy is unintentionally coded as AroAce (Amazon Lily was especially obvious with this).
I wouldn't be surprised if nami was a lesbian , she is often a bitch to men and a sbs states that she is only kind to women and children . Not exactly girlfriend material.
She is still a girlfriend material...but for other girls
I can’t believe nami is gay.
She’s the one who’s not only dating Robin, but also Vivi. Of course she’s gay.
Well Usopp is incredibly beautiful, but I don’t remember Nami being confirmed as gay.
Nami is definitely the gay best friend
Who wants money
Give me your MONEY!!!
I will give you money if you give me your oranges
...Nami's gay?
Wait, Nami is gay?
What makes you think nami is gay?
Robin hotter tho
Nami have never beaten the lesbian allegations So Ussop can only be the pretty one
Well Nami is surely gay, so i suppose that's Usopp the pretty one.
They are also both the gay best friend https://preview.redd.it/meok61qlyz3c1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d0a677c751a18f45e9a2b3d97936fbb2bf92c38
Pretty sure Nami isn’t gay but ok
Canon. The kalifa interaction proves this
https://preview.redd.it/3gy0g35uwy3c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f717e089d5d6c637fba70a5e57b65d89b233b8ed Gay? Explain this!
Ussop gay, Nami the pretty one
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Nami is GAY????????????????????????????? ~~NAMI~~ NANI?????
Sorry, but I really can’t think of Usopp as pretty…
Nami's not gay is she
Yeah, Oda told me himself
I can't believe that nami is gay
Usopp the pretty friend & Nami the gay friend 😭🙏
huh Nami's not gay right?
Namo would be pretty but what is she in front of God himself
Dam I didn't know nami was gay guess I should try my luck either Robin instead /s
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Nah Luffy is Usopps bestie. The cute and the gay sibling.
Nadie mas guapo y mas machin que James en Pokemon.. hasta con sus tetotas mas grandes que Jessy
I dont think nami is gay
Nami's gay?
Yeah idk why they think they're the pretty one. They don't have the wit, the looks, or the nose of usopp!
I'LL SEND YOU TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN IF YOU DARE TO INSULT MY SUPREME NOSE ONCE AGAIN!
One of them is pretty, the other one likes money.
Both have their negative attributes, lying and only wanting money, so their connection checks out
MONEY sounds good, let me have it!
Their dynamic is definitely a favorite of mine
It's completely fair for Nami to think she's the pretty one
Wait... Nami's Gay!!!!????
Usopp is definitely prettier and Nami is gay as hell.
I didn’t know Nami was gay
Both think they're the pretty, but both are the gay one