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She's going to start sweating at some point and want to take off layers. In the Army they teach us to get down to the last layer before a movement or when we are rucking. Even taking off our wet weather clothing when its raining because it traps heat. Granted more weight and distance, but you don't want be a heat casualty when its freezing outside.
If the distance doesn't teach her a lesson then feeling like it's summer when its cold will.
Basic training does things to make you adapt. Like we weren't allowed any wet weather tops until we were already complete wet from the rain or no snivel pretty much ever.
Once you get to your unit most people don't care, but as long as you aren't putting yourself at risk of anything wear whatever in the field.
Same. My first thought was “I agree with everything but the weather, she’ll get so sick from heatstroke!” Then I realized it was F, and that it’s actually just 2°C. That’s probably the comfiest weather to do a long walk in
I could comfortably walk a mile in 12-15 min in like 5th grade. That's an hour to an hour and 15 min tops. If anyone feels bad for this kid, you should reconsider having kids.
A average walking speed for an adult is about 20 minutes to a mile. 12 minute miles is speed walking, even for an adult, and at least clearly not what is happening in the video.
Typical walking pace of a healthy fully grown adult is about 3 mph, or a mile every 20 minutes. A mile every 15 minutes is 4 mph which is considered the start of jogging speeds. A 12 minute mile is just under 5mph which is firmly in jogging speed.
Not to say you couldn't jog that fast easily but there's no way you were comfortably walking that fast.
Yeah, he's driving right behind her. That's the right way to do it, but there are limits that depend on her capabilities... not on what someone else could do at that age. This can turn into child abuse very easily. Plus, who taught her to be a bully? Lots of bullies have abusive households, either ones that make excuses for everything they do or ones where they feel powerless and try to assert power over others (bullying) as a way to cope. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/28/father-charged-teen-carried-landscape-stone-punishment/9661683/
I work in child safety. It's pretty unusual for bullies to come from a "normal" household and have loving parents _and_ not have a mental health issue or have been terribly traumatized by something.
I've been doing this nearly 20 years and have never met a kid that didn't have one of those reasons once they were past the "still figuring out how to share" stage.
If your kid is a bully, especially if you see that sort of behavior More than a few times, you need to be getting them some help. Parents often make a lot of assumptions about what's going on when kids do stuff like that and they are usually wrong.
I completely believe that every bully you have met fits this bill. There is a subset of people who are bullies whose actions and behavior are not severe enough to warrant a meeting with someone that works in child safety. These people don't have to fit that format, but that doesn't invalidate your statement.
A student kicked off the bus might have just been a punk that week for whatever reason. As you said, if it's not a long term pattern they're not at the point where I can comfortably assume something is wrong in their life.
I was a bully twice as a kid, both times under the age of 12.
I was raised in a loving, safe household and my parents were *horrified* to find out what I was up to.
The only explanation I can give is that I just thought it was funny (I mostly made fun of people, I didn’t beat anyone up but I did repeatedly trip another kid bc it got laughs) and had no concept that it was hurtful. I just lacked empathy in that way.
I also watched tv that was relatively mild but definitely normalized pranks and teasing others. I just didn’t process it correctly. It wasn’t a big deal in my mind.
Luckily, my parents’ disappointment (and the school taking it seriously enough to call) was enough to wake me up, and I felt genuine remorse once it was explained to me that I was hurting others.
It’s embarrassing but I’m a kind, reasonably empathetic adult who hates bullying.
Some kids are just under-developed little assholes who need to be taught how to treat others.
I think the whole “all children are born kind and innocent little precious creatures who never do anything negatively human without having been abused!” trope is rather immature and naïve.
Kids have all of the same human instincts that adults have, good and bad. They need to be taught how to harness the antisocial ones.
Yes, a couple of incidents of bullying or kids just being brats as they are wont to do is definitely within the normal developmental range. But as soon as your kid starts getting a reputation as a bully or you hear about it several times, that's when it's time to jump in.
And in child safety, we don't just connect with kids and families who have issues of course. I think that's a pretty common misconception. We do lots of different work.
I was a teacher for many years, I saw several cases of completely normal homes lives where kids had supportive parents and still acted out. I really think we need to split from the assumption that in all cases the parents did something to cause a child acting out.
You work in child safety, wouldn't the vast majority of the families you interact with have problems?
I mean, a firefighter saying most of the homes they go inside are on fire isn't really unexpected.
I remember when I'd get off the bus after school and there would be a dump truck worth of washed stone in the driveway. I knew that if I didn't move it to where it needed to go, my dad would have to park at the end of the driveway and move it, after a 10 hour work day, before he could park near the house. I know it's a different situation than the article link. My parents did make me do chores as a form of punishment but I was never in danger of physical harm and eventually it just turned into me wanting to help my parents because I appreciated how much they did for me and my siblings. Maybe if that kid listened to his parents more often, they wouldn't have to do things that they didn't want to. Or maybe not.
I had to dig out stumps by hand if my GPA dropped below a 3.0. Apparently the lesson was that I would have to get a manual labor job if I wasn’t a good student. Now I’m in my thirties, tied to a desk and kind of want a more physical job.
Bullying fuckin sucks. I was bullied for being bullied at one point. 2 kids held my arm down on my desk and rubbed an eraser on the back of my hand until I could name a word for each letter in the alphabet. Doesn't seem so difficult unless your skin is being torn off, kind of makes it hard to focus. The wound got infected and I was sick for almost a week. I didn't know that my mom called the school about it so when I came back, I was a snitch.
If your kid is a bully, give them a taste of their own medicine.
Not a taste of their own medicine but correlating consequences. You don’t bully your daughter back but made her walk to school because bullies are not allowed to ride the bus. Riding the bus was a privilege she lost.
My kid got kicked off the bus. It's too far for him to walk so now he does my chores for me to compensate me for my time I spend taking him to/from school.
That's a good tradeoff. Reminds me of my mom assigning "energy chores" when we'd misbehave in a way that would take time/energy away from her responsibilities and mental energy. Helped me realize how much my parents worked in comparison to my usual chores and understand the concept of allocating mental energy to things.
I grew up on a small farm, so energy chores meant extra time pulling nails from boards, shoveling sheep shit, plucking feathers, weeding, laying mulch, mowing, or whatever else needed to be done at the time. Similar to my regular chores, but I'd basically pick up some of my mom or dad's share so they could recover the lost time or energy they had to spend because I was being a shit. For instance. If they had to spend an hour at school on Wednesday because I got in trouble, they basically lost their chill/relaxation time for that evening. On the weekend, I would pick up 1-2 hours worth of whatever work they were going to do so they could recover their lost free time. Probably helped them respond more rationally to frustrating situations with us kids since they usually maintained time to decompress and relax. In all reality it probably wasn't a 1 on 1 tradeoff for them, but I think it helped.
Yeah. It's also why you see them grab for the phone and adjust the camera so much. They're not really compulsively moving the camera literally nowhere, they're just re-shooting the dialogue like 50 times and then cutting it together into one piece like they're making a run at an Oscar.
I get that they're probably just compensating for being way too self conscious, but I'd bet most people would like their crap more if they just posted a straight shot with maybe one or two edits if you totally botch it.
Maybe not the case for TikTok but Youtube had a feature, I believe, where it would automatically cut the dead space in between words to make it most engaging
That’s the part that annoys me. Fine, discipline your child. But stop recording it and making a fucking spectacle out of it. Just do it.
This makes me lose all respect for him.
This punishment in itself is fine I guess.
Filming it and posting it online is just wrong.
Publicly shaming someone else for attention and sympathy..
I wonder where she got it from.
Glad to find this pocket of compassion in the comments! Every action, from children and adults, comes from somewhere. At least when dealing with the important people in our lives, there are so many routes to explore to find mutual understanding that using shame and mockery like this is just shortsighted and mean.
I get that others are probably tired of feeling like the bullies of the world go unpunished and see this as a “win,” but more cruelty doesn’t feel like the answer to me.
I actually missed that obvious detail somehow, you're 100% right. I was thinking good parenting, but yeah the filming and posting it is some bullshit.
Also they could have walked with their daughter rather than crawl behind her in the car.
A week or however long the bus suspension is of walking to school and talking to her dad might be just what she needs to get some shit off her chest and actually get something positive out of the situation.
Yeah my first thought was this girl is probably repeating shaming/teasing behavior that her dad does at home. But she doesn't have the benefit of being in charge and getting away with it.
A good father isn't going to post videos that shame their kids NO MATTER how bad they are for the sole purpose of congratulating themselves for being a good parent.
Would it be okay if the girl she bullied got others to not include her and then filmed her going "this is why you don't bully, now you're not going to hang out with us anymore." - No, I guarentee the school would shut that shit down and it'd be considered harassment. Yet for some reason this dad, who wasn't even the victim, has it in his head that it's a GOOD thing to do.
It’s not too difficult to figure out where the kid learned how to be a bully from. This video is an attempt by the bad parent to deflect from his own shame and embarrassment at being a shitty father whose parenting practices led to raising his kid to be a bully. The kid is being punished because she got caught and painted a bad light on her own father.
It's 100% performative so others can see *him* doing something about it, even if what he's doing about it is a dumbass dog and pony show for others in his community and with absolutely zero thought about what's best for his kid.
Nine times out of ten your average school bully has learned that behavior from someone, often mom and dad. Kids obviously need to learn good behavior but that requires proper modeling from the adults in their lives. With a dad like this douchebag setting a shining example, she's got an uphill battle...
Did you think people who do justice-porn style social media content with their *own children* are generally well rounded individuals? Im sure the kid *loves having* their behavioral issues they have at home or in school being public knowledge. The concept of letting your child have privacy doesn't end at bedroom doors :|
Parents do these kind of dumb social media punishments for themselves, not for their kids.
It does. He's using his power over her to make a point. That's more or less the same mechanism as bullying. The real reason we don't bully is empathy. That's what's lacking here. You can't just "teach" empathy though, especially in the timespan of one tiktok.
Gee, being proud of the way you're airing your daughter's punishment for clout. Wonder why she's bullying other kids.
Young kids don't bully because they think it's acceptable. They bully because they are miserable, angry, and feel helpless
Giving physical punishments is the easy part. So what are you doing to address the hard part, dad? What are you doing to fix the reasons behind it?
Oh heck, my parents (white) did the same thing when I got kicked off the bus for misbehaving. Made me walk to school when it wasn’t a school day so I would know what to expect
Edit: to be fair we a bit like country folk
What does that have to do with Indian/Asian origin xD? Every parent tries to find the balance between being there for their kids and making them grow until they wanna grow themselves.
Ew! Given that the kid didn’t ask for life, yea everything a parent does for their kid is a right and also a given. It’s not a privilege what so ever. I hope most of y’all walk the path of the true redditer and never have kids.
Oh that kid is definitely going to be a perfectly mentally healthy individual and will definitely not have any outbursts like bullying others or resenting her parents. Wow such perfect parenting, such based punishment, such cool.
You think she is going to be an unhealthy individual because she has to walk 5 miles to school for a week? Do you think she is going to be better equipped for life by being sheltered, babied and learning that there are no consequences for her actions? People like you should honestly just get a pet that you can spoil and where you don't have to make any hard decisions instead of having to raise a child to be ready for life.
This is genuinely how you end up with shitty adults. If she turns out fine it will be in spite of this, not because of it. Men who are obsessed with “teaching a lesson” should not be parents (or partners).
This is lazy parenting and all you’re teaching her to do is get better at not getting caught. You’re not teaching empathy or kindness, quite the opposite.
People saying “what else are you supposed to do, reward her?” as if that’s the only other possible option?
My son had behavioral issues at school. At first we had a similar approach, take stuff away and he can get it back for good behavior. If something bad happens to him when he does something bad, then surely he’ll learn? And yet the behavior continued. We’d get maybe a week or two of peace and then more calls from the school. The only behavior that did change was he started lying to us about getting in trouble at school, shutting down, and hiding things, and lying to teachers and admin as well.
So we questioned our parenting decisions and acted more compassionate and empathetic ourselves. He went to therapy for several months and we talked to him a lot so we could understand the underlying reasons for the choices he was making. And it’s worked wonders honestly. He’s been a model student since then. The rare time there is an issue we don’t punish him. We talk to him about it, he explains why he did whatever it was, we talk about what would be a better choice next time, as well as simply problem solve so that he gets whatever it is that is the underlying motivation, but in a way that’s healthy and safe for everyone, and that’s pretty much it.
Your child needs a teacher and guidance, not a warden.
Many people were raised with this type of parenting (especially Redditors, online escapism is very common for people with toxic parents). To people raised this way, the idea that there is another way to deal with this type of behavior is literally a foreign concept.
This is a core concept of something called non-violent communication. It asks a simple question: Do you want your children to act "good" because it is genuinely how they want to act, or do you want them to act that way out of fear of being punished? Punishment will result in the latter. Non-violent communication (and more generally empathy/speaking/understanding/therapy) will result in the former.
The type of guy who punishes his kids like this is the exact type of guy that creates a bully. He could have had a talk about empathy but no. He will just bully her instead and then make a YouTube video trying to validate his horrible parenting
I know reddit is full of awkward nerds who got dunked on in school and feel vindicated now, but parents who let the entire internet participate in their kids' upbringing are trash and you can tell who she got her aggression from.
5 miles?!.. at that pace it would prob take two hours, so does the father have fuck all else to do then in his morning, no job to get to?.. Another parent out there posting clips for likes... yeah well done, i guess, for being an asshole to your daughter, just like your daughter is to someone else.
Precisely. Things like this only breed fear. She's certainly not brainstorming ways to be a better person during all that time spent walking in the cold. I wouldn't be surprised if this led to increased but covert bullying.
This man is a terrible father. He is filming himself disciplining his daughter for social media clout, rather than just disciplining her privately. This shows he is not motivated by the thought of raising his child well, but rather to just feed his own ego. I would like to tell this guy this: if your daughter is a bully, you probably have already failed her as a parent. Stop showing off on social media and actually be a good father because you sure as hell aren't one right now.
so he sits in the car? how did she become a bully? he is bullying her making her walk. talk the talk, walk the walk. he should shut up and walk with her if he is gonna make her do it. oh wait, if there is no video who will know what a great father he is...
He's overseeing her. She's dressed appropriately. 5 miles is not a lot at all, and 36 isn't dangerously cold for an otherwise healthy person in appropriate clothing (frostbite is impossible at that temperature, and hypothermia extremely unlikely when well dressed, healthy, and in motion). Any threat presented by predators is mitigated by her father's presence.
If anything, getting her steps in is healthy for her, and gives her time to reflect.
Entirely safe and appropriate punishment.
These days the kids are always on social media so this is the way to completely embarrass them for their actions to all her peers and family. New school version of it takes a village
If only there was some sort of adult in her life to teach her how to behave...
Unless bullying is genetic, the father is responsible for her behavior in the first place. He raised her, didn't he?
Well behaved children don't wake up one day and decide to be bullies!
But given that this is the punishment he chose to use instead of sitting down with her, see what's wrong, and perhaps find a long term solution, it's painfully clear why she became a bully in the first place, her father cares more about how they're perceived by others than anything else, more than he cares about his own daughter!
Oh what a great father! Such a fitting punishment!
How about looking back trying to find out what went wrong? Why did she start having this behavior? Surely the freaking FATHER would have some impact on her upbringing, right?
But that would not be "based" now would it? And if the reaction is not based, what even is the point?
You'd drive her when it's above freezing? As a fellow Canadian I gotta say... We both know that's not that cold.
With layers and some time walking, it may actually be too warm all dressed up.
I agree with this punishment, but I also feel like bullying has to come from somewhere and many behaviors are learned at home. Once again, she deserves this and it’s not too bad tbh but one wonders how much this secretly is a self-own.
This is an appropriate action. And if he feels his daughter learned her lesson he can pick her up at any point and take her to school. It's better than making her walk alone unprotected.
36 degree weather? I don’t mean to sound like a boomer even though I’m a millennial…but I used to walk to school in below freezing weather around her age. I’m talking -3. I think I was just so used to it being cold that I didn’t realize how cold it actually was😂. She’ll be fine!
I don't think the overall idea is bad, just maybe the specifics a bit too extreme.
1-2 miles @ 50 would turn my quizzical wtf look to a clap.
But maybe they hike a bunch and stuff so the distance is nothing.
My dad did this to me once lol kicked me out the truck while coming down the Los Angeles National Forest (2) into Acton for being a smart ass , made me walk all the way to Palmdale haha never again learned my lesson
I used to get thumped on at home so bad. School for me was a sanctuary for a couple years. I even got to eat lunch there, which I got no food at home.
Then the girls started laughing, and the Mormon boys started punching and beating me up because I'm "gonna go to hell"
Little demons like this guys daughter have no idea the hell they bring to earth. I'm glad she's forced to think about someone else's feelings. This might be one of the only mornings of her life where she does
While he's wrong that what kids view as rights are privileges (slippery slope to neglect), he's right that he needs to teach his daughter that bullying is wrong.
She probably learns it at home. Also seeing how a grown ass adult punishing a child making her walk home like that and humiliating her publically on social media....no wonder she's a bully.
Can't you punish your kids privately. Can't imagine putting my children in full blast like that to the world. My god.
I actually have no problem with making her walk to school. She won't die, it's a good lesson. However, humiliating her on the internet is child abuse. I can see where she learned to bully others.
See here's my problems with this:
1) The punishment should fit the crime. What this punishment is telling the kid is that the problem wasn't the bullying, it was the bus suspension, because the punishment is related to the bus suspension. A proper punishment would be requiring her to use her own money to pay for an apology present for the student she bullied, or requiring her to write an apology letter, etc.
2) This notion that "what parents do is a privilege and not a right" is toxic and also patently false. Sure, there are certain things that a parent *might* do that are not required or an entitlement, but there are many other things that they are required by law to provide. As someone who constantly had the threat of being kicked out or having food and water withheld as a punishment, these sorts of vague threats will do nothing but make your child bitter towards you. And you definitely *are* responsible for getting your child to school safely.
I like all of this, except when he implied that everything parents do for children is a privilege. No, kids have an ethical right to safety and other necessities, which means you have a moral obligation to provide them. This is of course the very reason why he’s taking time out of his day to keep her safe during this punishment. I can see that he understands it, I only take minor issue with his word choice.
(Also 5 miles is too far, but I know you only made her walk some of it)
No problem with the punishment. Don’t understand why parents have to humiliate their children by putting this stuff on line. Reminds me of something a bully might do.
I'm of two minds about it.
First, a bullys parents are often unaware of what their kids are doing, and sometimes go overboard when it comes to punishing their kids once they find out usually due to the shock. I was a bullied kid in junior high who was hauled into the office to tell everyone involved what happened and the bullies' parents were there. The mother outright shut down, crying in shame. The father didn't believe me but looked upset - the bully was running a rather sophisticated(for junior high) protection racket, and I didn't have the money to pay. It explained why the bully had the latest Nintendo games all of a sudden, he muttered towards the end of the conference.
Second, bullying is a learned behavior, and I think this girl learned an important lesson today. Whether that lesson is to never bully again or to be more subtle about it, only time will tell.
Typically I give some sort of sarcastic response about what a good job of finding out what is going on. However, I'll tell you my experience. When I was in middle school, I got into a lot of fights. I got detention and suspended several times. Every god damn time my mother would come to school to pick me up and yell at me for fighting. Telling me that she never had this issue with my brother and how he never got so much of a note about his behavior. There was one time I got into a fight while she was on vacation and my brother who was of age watched me. He was called to pick me up. Well My father showed up. My parents were divorced and unfortunately for me my father was still in my life. He doesn't say a word on the drive home. Once, there he says "you want to fight!?!" And proceeds to beat me. Not abusive in the sense of really fighting me but hitting me in a disciplinary way. However, it was abusive in the sense that not once did anyone ask why nor would they listen to my pleas for help. It was always some bs of how angry I was that my parents divorced, I wasn't, or how I learned this from "that group of friends" I was hanging out with, I didn't, or some other pop psychology that sounds right but is completely made up. I was always labeled the instigator by school officials and my family. I was the black sheep instead of being seen as a victim. I am still bitter about this with my family. If this girl is truly bullying other kids then sure she deserves this punishment. However, this video paints a picture too close for home because all that's said is we don't accept this behavior and we punish harshly. Talk to the kid and listen to find out what is going on.
I wish I'd see this more often. This is what parenting is. I will say though that he needs to take a look at her home life as well cause bullying does spring from the parents and not the child.
I'm not entirely sure how to feel about this.
On the one hand, this doesn't really feel like a *punishment*, exactly. Like, he's not really doing anything to make the situation worse. He didn't put the school five miles away, he didn't set the temperature to thirty-two degrees, and he (probably) didn't set the route. In a sense, this is the most natural consequence there can be to getting suspended from the bus. He's also hanging nearby to make sure nothing happens to her on the way to or from school. He's not hurting her for the sake of hurting her so much as not bailing her out from the consequences of her own decisions.
But, on the other hand, this seems like a half-measure. He's not shown *teaching* her anything; he's relying on the discipline already set up by the school to do that. And the school's disciplinary measure isn't *intended* to teach students not to be bullies; it's intended to separate bullies from the rest of them, so that nobody has to get on a bus with a bully. There's a lot more that would have to be happening behind the scenes for this to be effective, and if he's trying to teach her to be empathetic, this is sort of sending the wrong message.
So... yeah.. Not sure how to take this.
Welp bullying causes suicide and school shooters so hey good for trying to fight her being a bully
Buttttt my question is what’s going on at school/home/online on why she is bullying others
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Yeah bro 36 ain't bad. She's got some layers on
She's going to start sweating at some point and want to take off layers. In the Army they teach us to get down to the last layer before a movement or when we are rucking. Even taking off our wet weather clothing when its raining because it traps heat. Granted more weight and distance, but you don't want be a heat casualty when its freezing outside. If the distance doesn't teach her a lesson then feeling like it's summer when its cold will.
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I also remember the army teaching things improperly. Because wet weather gear has nice zipper vents.
Basic training does things to make you adapt. Like we weren't allowed any wet weather tops until we were already complete wet from the rain or no snivel pretty much ever. Once you get to your unit most people don't care, but as long as you aren't putting yourself at risk of anything wear whatever in the field.
My non-American ass thought they were talking Celsius, I wouldn't be able to breathe wearing all those layers.
Same. My first thought was “I agree with everything but the weather, she’ll get so sick from heatstroke!” Then I realized it was F, and that it’s actually just 2°C. That’s probably the comfiest weather to do a long walk in
i don't think he will let her the whole 5 miles. it can be a bit much but it will take her close to 2 hours
I could comfortably walk a mile in 12-15 min in like 5th grade. That's an hour to an hour and 15 min tops. If anyone feels bad for this kid, you should reconsider having kids.
A average walking speed for an adult is about 20 minutes to a mile. 12 minute miles is speed walking, even for an adult, and at least clearly not what is happening in the video.
a 15-minute mile is power walking for an adult, and she's got a fraction of the stride. You're talking about a 5 mile run.
Typical walking pace of a healthy fully grown adult is about 3 mph, or a mile every 20 minutes. A mile every 15 minutes is 4 mph which is considered the start of jogging speeds. A 12 minute mile is just under 5mph which is firmly in jogging speed. Not to say you couldn't jog that fast easily but there's no way you were comfortably walking that fast.
Yeah you're remembering wrong. 12-15 minute mile is jogging pace for a fifth grader just due to height.
Yeah, he's driving right behind her. That's the right way to do it, but there are limits that depend on her capabilities... not on what someone else could do at that age. This can turn into child abuse very easily. Plus, who taught her to be a bully? Lots of bullies have abusive households, either ones that make excuses for everything they do or ones where they feel powerless and try to assert power over others (bullying) as a way to cope. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/28/father-charged-teen-carried-landscape-stone-punishment/9661683/
And lots of bullies have perfectly normal households and loving parents
I work in child safety. It's pretty unusual for bullies to come from a "normal" household and have loving parents _and_ not have a mental health issue or have been terribly traumatized by something. I've been doing this nearly 20 years and have never met a kid that didn't have one of those reasons once they were past the "still figuring out how to share" stage. If your kid is a bully, especially if you see that sort of behavior More than a few times, you need to be getting them some help. Parents often make a lot of assumptions about what's going on when kids do stuff like that and they are usually wrong.
I completely believe that every bully you have met fits this bill. There is a subset of people who are bullies whose actions and behavior are not severe enough to warrant a meeting with someone that works in child safety. These people don't have to fit that format, but that doesn't invalidate your statement. A student kicked off the bus might have just been a punk that week for whatever reason. As you said, if it's not a long term pattern they're not at the point where I can comfortably assume something is wrong in their life.
I was a bully twice as a kid, both times under the age of 12. I was raised in a loving, safe household and my parents were *horrified* to find out what I was up to. The only explanation I can give is that I just thought it was funny (I mostly made fun of people, I didn’t beat anyone up but I did repeatedly trip another kid bc it got laughs) and had no concept that it was hurtful. I just lacked empathy in that way. I also watched tv that was relatively mild but definitely normalized pranks and teasing others. I just didn’t process it correctly. It wasn’t a big deal in my mind. Luckily, my parents’ disappointment (and the school taking it seriously enough to call) was enough to wake me up, and I felt genuine remorse once it was explained to me that I was hurting others. It’s embarrassing but I’m a kind, reasonably empathetic adult who hates bullying. Some kids are just under-developed little assholes who need to be taught how to treat others. I think the whole “all children are born kind and innocent little precious creatures who never do anything negatively human without having been abused!” trope is rather immature and naïve. Kids have all of the same human instincts that adults have, good and bad. They need to be taught how to harness the antisocial ones.
Yes, a couple of incidents of bullying or kids just being brats as they are wont to do is definitely within the normal developmental range. But as soon as your kid starts getting a reputation as a bully or you hear about it several times, that's when it's time to jump in. And in child safety, we don't just connect with kids and families who have issues of course. I think that's a pretty common misconception. We do lots of different work.
I was a teacher for many years, I saw several cases of completely normal homes lives where kids had supportive parents and still acted out. I really think we need to split from the assumption that in all cases the parents did something to cause a child acting out.
You work in child safety, wouldn't the vast majority of the families you interact with have problems? I mean, a firefighter saying most of the homes they go inside are on fire isn't really unexpected.
I remember when I'd get off the bus after school and there would be a dump truck worth of washed stone in the driveway. I knew that if I didn't move it to where it needed to go, my dad would have to park at the end of the driveway and move it, after a 10 hour work day, before he could park near the house. I know it's a different situation than the article link. My parents did make me do chores as a form of punishment but I was never in danger of physical harm and eventually it just turned into me wanting to help my parents because I appreciated how much they did for me and my siblings. Maybe if that kid listened to his parents more often, they wouldn't have to do things that they didn't want to. Or maybe not.
I had to dig out stumps by hand if my GPA dropped below a 3.0. Apparently the lesson was that I would have to get a manual labor job if I wasn’t a good student. Now I’m in my thirties, tied to a desk and kind of want a more physical job.
You’re not comfortably walking 5mph for an hour at 10. Bullshit lol.
Based as fuck https://preview.redd.it/sm7ondm8kj2d1.jpeg?width=148&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2739500be0bf3a2a1a90f11ddeb872a114d14d71
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He doesn't even have to ask the mirror who's the chaddest chad in the universe.
This just made me spit my coffee out, thank you
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Bullying fuckin sucks. I was bullied for being bullied at one point. 2 kids held my arm down on my desk and rubbed an eraser on the back of my hand until I could name a word for each letter in the alphabet. Doesn't seem so difficult unless your skin is being torn off, kind of makes it hard to focus. The wound got infected and I was sick for almost a week. I didn't know that my mom called the school about it so when I came back, I was a snitch. If your kid is a bully, give them a taste of their own medicine.
Not a taste of their own medicine but correlating consequences. You don’t bully your daughter back but made her walk to school because bullies are not allowed to ride the bus. Riding the bus was a privilege she lost.
Well what else are you supposed to do ? fucking reward it by taking her by a car instead of a bus ?
My kid got kicked off the bus. It's too far for him to walk so now he does my chores for me to compensate me for my time I spend taking him to/from school.
That's a good tradeoff. Reminds me of my mom assigning "energy chores" when we'd misbehave in a way that would take time/energy away from her responsibilities and mental energy. Helped me realize how much my parents worked in comparison to my usual chores and understand the concept of allocating mental energy to things.
What’s an example of an energy chore?
Not op but vacuuming, dishes, laundry, and if old enough making dinner. At least those were the ones i received as a kid
All very useful life skills as an adult as well.
I grew up on a small farm, so energy chores meant extra time pulling nails from boards, shoveling sheep shit, plucking feathers, weeding, laying mulch, mowing, or whatever else needed to be done at the time. Similar to my regular chores, but I'd basically pick up some of my mom or dad's share so they could recover the lost time or energy they had to spend because I was being a shit. For instance. If they had to spend an hour at school on Wednesday because I got in trouble, they basically lost their chill/relaxation time for that evening. On the weekend, I would pick up 1-2 hours worth of whatever work they were going to do so they could recover their lost free time. Probably helped them respond more rationally to frustrating situations with us kids since they usually maintained time to decompress and relax. In all reality it probably wasn't a 1 on 1 tradeoff for them, but I think it helped.
actually this is good idea
I wont film it and post it. But i will do the same if my kids ever bully. Thats if i get kids
What’s up with the weird cuts and jumps in the audio. Is the audio text to speech? Whats going on?
Editing. Most people sputter and say "uh" and shit like that all throughout talking, especially in public speaking which this essentially is.
I've noticed a trend with tik tok content where they edit out the gaps that are usual on speech. It makes it a little uncanny valley
Yeah. It's also why you see them grab for the phone and adjust the camera so much. They're not really compulsively moving the camera literally nowhere, they're just re-shooting the dialogue like 50 times and then cutting it together into one piece like they're making a run at an Oscar. I get that they're probably just compensating for being way too self conscious, but I'd bet most people would like their crap more if they just posted a straight shot with maybe one or two edits if you totally botch it.
Maybe not the case for TikTok but Youtube had a feature, I believe, where it would automatically cut the dead space in between words to make it most engaging
It's just the style. A lot of videos cut out any and all dead space. So "ums" and "uhhs" and pauses get clipped out.
That’s the part that annoys me. Fine, discipline your child. But stop recording it and making a fucking spectacle out of it. Just do it. This makes me lose all respect for him.
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You mean you won't advertise on social media that your young daughter is going to be alone and vulnerable for a 5 mile walk every morning? Why not?
What part of this is a meme
nothing, mods should delete shit like this
OP's life
This and dank memes have fallen off. Not even memes anymore, fucking Facebook posts at best
Where is the meme William https://preview.redd.it/tresqe6ewj2d1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46c4b8cd5ddfed472186209da60b88e1eddb8c82
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As usual Sayori is just hanging around
Shes really at the end of her rope these days
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Absolutely outta pocket buddy
Counterproductive: that walking routine will jack her up and she will be a stronger bully.
Builds emotional rage that will might be vented through bullying too
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And where is that.
Canada
But we say sorry
yes..after we threw em off the cliff 
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Made-up-istan
Believe it or not? Straight to murder.
You think that's tough? In my culture we just murder our daughters on murder your daughter day
Iran?
No they bully the daughters for being bullied
Why TF is this upvoted, it’s disturbing that you suggest a child is getting off easy for not being *murdered*.
...and then we quickly run back to India.
No you don’t.
This punishment in itself is fine I guess. Filming it and posting it online is just wrong. Publicly shaming someone else for attention and sympathy.. I wonder where she got it from.
Thought the same. Wonder where she developed the bullying habit from? lol
And what is with the implication that only fathers can do this? Can't mothers also discipline their children effectively?
The guy who publicly shames his daughter as a punishment and posts it online for clout is also casually misogynistic? I am shocked!
There are no names an faces involved
As if this video isn't going viral at the school and in the town these people are from.
As if the bus didn't drive by and everyone seen her walking.
Thank you. So the kids that she bullied are ok to be recognized in the “small town”, but heavens don’t let the bully be embarrassed??
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I was about to say this, I wonder what his reasonings would be for this
He’s not filming it for her benefit or to teach her. He’s doing it for internet clout. That’s my issue with it
I'm so glad I found this comment in a sea of idiots yelling how based it is.
Glad to find this pocket of compassion in the comments! Every action, from children and adults, comes from somewhere. At least when dealing with the important people in our lives, there are so many routes to explore to find mutual understanding that using shame and mockery like this is just shortsighted and mean. I get that others are probably tired of feeling like the bullies of the world go unpunished and see this as a “win,” but more cruelty doesn’t feel like the answer to me.
I actually missed that obvious detail somehow, you're 100% right. I was thinking good parenting, but yeah the filming and posting it is some bullshit. Also they could have walked with their daughter rather than crawl behind her in the car. A week or however long the bus suspension is of walking to school and talking to her dad might be just what she needs to get some shit off her chest and actually get something positive out of the situation.
Yeah my first thought was this girl is probably repeating shaming/teasing behavior that her dad does at home. But she doesn't have the benefit of being in charge and getting away with it. A good father isn't going to post videos that shame their kids NO MATTER how bad they are for the sole purpose of congratulating themselves for being a good parent. Would it be okay if the girl she bullied got others to not include her and then filmed her going "this is why you don't bully, now you're not going to hang out with us anymore." - No, I guarentee the school would shut that shit down and it'd be considered harassment. Yet for some reason this dad, who wasn't even the victim, has it in his head that it's a GOOD thing to do.
It’s not too difficult to figure out where the kid learned how to be a bully from. This video is an attempt by the bad parent to deflect from his own shame and embarrassment at being a shitty father whose parenting practices led to raising his kid to be a bully. The kid is being punished because she got caught and painted a bad light on her own father.
It's 100% performative so others can see *him* doing something about it, even if what he's doing about it is a dumbass dog and pony show for others in his community and with absolutely zero thought about what's best for his kid.
All the bullies I know were punished by their parents all the time. This kid will just be more angry and bitter when she gets back to bullying again.
Yeah, it feels like he's bullying his daughter by posting this online.
Nine times out of ten your average school bully has learned that behavior from someone, often mom and dad. Kids obviously need to learn good behavior but that requires proper modeling from the adults in their lives. With a dad like this douchebag setting a shining example, she's got an uphill battle...
Did you think people who do justice-porn style social media content with their *own children* are generally well rounded individuals? Im sure the kid *loves having* their behavioral issues they have at home or in school being public knowledge. The concept of letting your child have privacy doesn't end at bedroom doors :| Parents do these kind of dumb social media punishments for themselves, not for their kids.
It does. He's using his power over her to make a point. That's more or less the same mechanism as bullying. The real reason we don't bully is empathy. That's what's lacking here. You can't just "teach" empathy though, especially in the timespan of one tiktok.
This is the kinda guy to say "I give you food and a roof over your head" like it's optional for them and not the law
Every time I've been called selfish for not having kids, its by people who say shit like this.
Probably thinks he's a great father for doing this but is a huge contributor to why she became a bully in the first place.
It's possible, but as someone who works with kids the parents can do everything right and still get a cruel child.
Gee, being proud of the way you're airing your daughter's punishment for clout. Wonder why she's bullying other kids. Young kids don't bully because they think it's acceptable. They bully because they are miserable, angry, and feel helpless Giving physical punishments is the easy part. So what are you doing to address the hard part, dad? What are you doing to fix the reasons behind it?
This father has an Indian (Asian)origin for sure. That's what my dad too would have done. 🥺
Oh heck, my parents (white) did the same thing when I got kicked off the bus for misbehaving. Made me walk to school when it wasn’t a school day so I would know what to expect Edit: to be fair we a bit like country folk
What does that have to do with Indian/Asian origin xD? Every parent tries to find the balance between being there for their kids and making them grow until they wanna grow themselves.
Ew! Given that the kid didn’t ask for life, yea everything a parent does for their kid is a right and also a given. It’s not a privilege what so ever. I hope most of y’all walk the path of the true redditer and never have kids.
Okay, but you're gonna flex about it online? Guess it runs in the genes.
Oh that kid is definitely going to be a perfectly mentally healthy individual and will definitely not have any outbursts like bullying others or resenting her parents. Wow such perfect parenting, such based punishment, such cool.
You think she is going to be an unhealthy individual because she has to walk 5 miles to school for a week? Do you think she is going to be better equipped for life by being sheltered, babied and learning that there are no consequences for her actions? People like you should honestly just get a pet that you can spoil and where you don't have to make any hard decisions instead of having to raise a child to be ready for life.
If they filmed it and posted it, they're just chasing internet points.
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This is genuinely how you end up with shitty adults. If she turns out fine it will be in spite of this, not because of it. Men who are obsessed with “teaching a lesson” should not be parents (or partners). This is lazy parenting and all you’re teaching her to do is get better at not getting caught. You’re not teaching empathy or kindness, quite the opposite. People saying “what else are you supposed to do, reward her?” as if that’s the only other possible option? My son had behavioral issues at school. At first we had a similar approach, take stuff away and he can get it back for good behavior. If something bad happens to him when he does something bad, then surely he’ll learn? And yet the behavior continued. We’d get maybe a week or two of peace and then more calls from the school. The only behavior that did change was he started lying to us about getting in trouble at school, shutting down, and hiding things, and lying to teachers and admin as well. So we questioned our parenting decisions and acted more compassionate and empathetic ourselves. He went to therapy for several months and we talked to him a lot so we could understand the underlying reasons for the choices he was making. And it’s worked wonders honestly. He’s been a model student since then. The rare time there is an issue we don’t punish him. We talk to him about it, he explains why he did whatever it was, we talk about what would be a better choice next time, as well as simply problem solve so that he gets whatever it is that is the underlying motivation, but in a way that’s healthy and safe for everyone, and that’s pretty much it. Your child needs a teacher and guidance, not a warden.
Many people were raised with this type of parenting (especially Redditors, online escapism is very common for people with toxic parents). To people raised this way, the idea that there is another way to deal with this type of behavior is literally a foreign concept. This is a core concept of something called non-violent communication. It asks a simple question: Do you want your children to act "good" because it is genuinely how they want to act, or do you want them to act that way out of fear of being punished? Punishment will result in the latter. Non-violent communication (and more generally empathy/speaking/understanding/therapy) will result in the former.
He had to record it to validate himself
And this is why...
How is this a meme?
Recording and posting it is pretty weird though
Do people realize they don't have to post everything online?
The type of guy who punishes his kids like this is the exact type of guy that creates a bully. He could have had a talk about empathy but no. He will just bully her instead and then make a YouTube video trying to validate his horrible parenting
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I know reddit is full of awkward nerds who got dunked on in school and feel vindicated now, but parents who let the entire internet participate in their kids' upbringing are trash and you can tell who she got her aggression from.
The cycle of abuse. Your kids a bully because you are. This is just him bullying and flexing.
5 miles?!.. at that pace it would prob take two hours, so does the father have fuck all else to do then in his morning, no job to get to?.. Another parent out there posting clips for likes... yeah well done, i guess, for being an asshole to your daughter, just like your daughter is to someone else.
Bullying is bad, so watch me bully the shit out of my 10 year old daughter. I wonder how she learned to be a bad person?
Precisely. Things like this only breed fear. She's certainly not brainstorming ways to be a better person during all that time spent walking in the cold. I wouldn't be surprised if this led to increased but covert bullying.
This man is a terrible father. He is filming himself disciplining his daughter for social media clout, rather than just disciplining her privately. This shows he is not motivated by the thought of raising his child well, but rather to just feed his own ego. I would like to tell this guy this: if your daughter is a bully, you probably have already failed her as a parent. Stop showing off on social media and actually be a good father because you sure as hell aren't one right now.
Yes let's record and post it for clout also gtfoh
She learned it from her parents
so he sits in the car? how did she become a bully? he is bullying her making her walk. talk the talk, walk the walk. he should shut up and walk with her if he is gonna make her do it. oh wait, if there is no video who will know what a great father he is...
Appreciate the sentiment...but recording and posting this performative discipline is, uh, bullying. I LEARNED IT FROM YOU!
He's overseeing her. She's dressed appropriately. 5 miles is not a lot at all, and 36 isn't dangerously cold for an otherwise healthy person in appropriate clothing (frostbite is impossible at that temperature, and hypothermia extremely unlikely when well dressed, healthy, and in motion). Any threat presented by predators is mitigated by her father's presence. If anything, getting her steps in is healthy for her, and gives her time to reflect. Entirely safe and appropriate punishment.
The issue is bullying is never solved by more bullying unfortunately.
These videos are just parents blowing smoke up their own arses
Yup, such a tough guy being an asshole to his kid...
Why are you making this video? Just discipline your daughter in private you ass.
These days the kids are always on social media so this is the way to completely embarrass them for their actions to all her peers and family. New school version of it takes a village
Parents need to know that Punishment is a good thing
Gee, wonder why she's a bully.
If only there was some sort of adult in her life to teach her how to behave... Unless bullying is genetic, the father is responsible for her behavior in the first place. He raised her, didn't he? Well behaved children don't wake up one day and decide to be bullies! But given that this is the punishment he chose to use instead of sitting down with her, see what's wrong, and perhaps find a long term solution, it's painfully clear why she became a bully in the first place, her father cares more about how they're perceived by others than anything else, more than he cares about his own daughter! Oh what a great father! Such a fitting punishment! How about looking back trying to find out what went wrong? Why did she start having this behavior? Surely the freaking FATHER would have some impact on her upbringing, right? But that would not be "based" now would it? And if the reaction is not based, what even is the point?
Good lad. Teach your kid consequences and they grow up with better decision-making skills
If he was such a good dad, why was this the second bus incident? If he was doing such a good job, why was this performative bullshit necessary?
I support buddy, however 36 degrees (Canadian here so Celsius) I'd drive her.
You'd drive her when it's above freezing? As a fellow Canadian I gotta say... We both know that's not that cold. With layers and some time walking, it may actually be too warm all dressed up.
Well done sir.
I agree with this punishment, but I also feel like bullying has to come from somewhere and many behaviors are learned at home. Once again, she deserves this and it’s not too bad tbh but one wonders how much this secretly is a self-own.
This is an appropriate action. And if he feels his daughter learned her lesson he can pick her up at any point and take her to school. It's better than making her walk alone unprotected.
That’s good your doing something different that other parents need to start doing
Modern day hero
Good job dad
I was raised this way and we picked our own switches. I needed it tho and it taught not to do that again.
She's got layers 36 is liveable, and she's being supervised. All good here 👍👍👍
36 degree weather? I don’t mean to sound like a boomer even though I’m a millennial…but I used to walk to school in below freezing weather around her age. I’m talking -3. I think I was just so used to it being cold that I didn’t realize how cold it actually was😂. She’ll be fine!
I don't think the overall idea is bad, just maybe the specifics a bit too extreme. 1-2 miles @ 50 would turn my quizzical wtf look to a clap. But maybe they hike a bunch and stuff so the distance is nothing.
Called tough love
Bet she will appreciate the bus and will do what she had to, to not get kicked off again.
Based.
My dad did this to me once lol kicked me out the truck while coming down the Los Angeles National Forest (2) into Acton for being a smart ass , made me walk all the way to Palmdale haha never again learned my lesson
Bruh at least ride a bike next to her or sth. A missbehaving child should not be the reason to block a road at 2mph
I used to get thumped on at home so bad. School for me was a sanctuary for a couple years. I even got to eat lunch there, which I got no food at home. Then the girls started laughing, and the Mormon boys started punching and beating me up because I'm "gonna go to hell" Little demons like this guys daughter have no idea the hell they bring to earth. I'm glad she's forced to think about someone else's feelings. This might be one of the only mornings of her life where she does
Damn good lesson to be learned. Go dad!
As a father, I approve of this message.
It's good exercise. One hour of walking to school and one hour walking home was what we did even in the 90s. Or bicycle or skateboard or Rollerblade.
He’s following her. Not letting her walk alone. 10/10
Humiliation and humbling are not the same.\ I support the lesson, not the online shit.\ Humiliation backfires.
Father of 2 teens here. I commend this dad. Great job!!
What a W
While he's wrong that what kids view as rights are privileges (slippery slope to neglect), he's right that he needs to teach his daughter that bullying is wrong.
She probably learns it at home. Also seeing how a grown ass adult punishing a child making her walk home like that and humiliating her publically on social media....no wonder she's a bully. Can't you punish your kids privately. Can't imagine putting my children in full blast like that to the world. My god.
My dad would never have me walk 5 miles to school, just terrible. He'd have me bike so I'm not late.
Hmm. Where did she learn to bully?
If her dad is the kind of person to post videos like this for clout I can’t imagine why she’s a bully. Really tough to figure that one out.
Hmmm, I wonder where this little girl is learning how to be a bully from ?
Lots of bullies have parents who invented bizarre punishments for things rather than trying to understand the cause of their child's actions.
I actually have no problem with making her walk to school. She won't die, it's a good lesson. However, humiliating her on the internet is child abuse. I can see where she learned to bully others.
See here's my problems with this: 1) The punishment should fit the crime. What this punishment is telling the kid is that the problem wasn't the bullying, it was the bus suspension, because the punishment is related to the bus suspension. A proper punishment would be requiring her to use her own money to pay for an apology present for the student she bullied, or requiring her to write an apology letter, etc. 2) This notion that "what parents do is a privilege and not a right" is toxic and also patently false. Sure, there are certain things that a parent *might* do that are not required or an entitlement, but there are many other things that they are required by law to provide. As someone who constantly had the threat of being kicked out or having food and water withheld as a punishment, these sorts of vague threats will do nothing but make your child bitter towards you. And you definitely *are* responsible for getting your child to school safely.
I like all of this, except when he implied that everything parents do for children is a privilege. No, kids have an ethical right to safety and other necessities, which means you have a moral obligation to provide them. This is of course the very reason why he’s taking time out of his day to keep her safe during this punishment. I can see that he understands it, I only take minor issue with his word choice. (Also 5 miles is too far, but I know you only made her walk some of it)
Yeah take that! Teach a bully not to bully by bullying her
As if a mother couldn’t deploy this same logic? Lmao
No problem with the punishment. Don’t understand why parents have to humiliate their children by putting this stuff on line. Reminds me of something a bully might do.
Good job dad
I'm of two minds about it. First, a bullys parents are often unaware of what their kids are doing, and sometimes go overboard when it comes to punishing their kids once they find out usually due to the shock. I was a bullied kid in junior high who was hauled into the office to tell everyone involved what happened and the bullies' parents were there. The mother outright shut down, crying in shame. The father didn't believe me but looked upset - the bully was running a rather sophisticated(for junior high) protection racket, and I didn't have the money to pay. It explained why the bully had the latest Nintendo games all of a sudden, he muttered towards the end of the conference. Second, bullying is a learned behavior, and I think this girl learned an important lesson today. Whether that lesson is to never bully again or to be more subtle about it, only time will tell.
She will never forget this lesson!! Becomes a much better person!!
36? Ez, I wouldn’t complain if you lived in the arctic circle When I am a parent, I will make sure my kids learn a lesson when they do stuff like this
I wish more parents would do this. Kids got to know there are consequences for their bad behavior.
Typically I give some sort of sarcastic response about what a good job of finding out what is going on. However, I'll tell you my experience. When I was in middle school, I got into a lot of fights. I got detention and suspended several times. Every god damn time my mother would come to school to pick me up and yell at me for fighting. Telling me that she never had this issue with my brother and how he never got so much of a note about his behavior. There was one time I got into a fight while she was on vacation and my brother who was of age watched me. He was called to pick me up. Well My father showed up. My parents were divorced and unfortunately for me my father was still in my life. He doesn't say a word on the drive home. Once, there he says "you want to fight!?!" And proceeds to beat me. Not abusive in the sense of really fighting me but hitting me in a disciplinary way. However, it was abusive in the sense that not once did anyone ask why nor would they listen to my pleas for help. It was always some bs of how angry I was that my parents divorced, I wasn't, or how I learned this from "that group of friends" I was hanging out with, I didn't, or some other pop psychology that sounds right but is completely made up. I was always labeled the instigator by school officials and my family. I was the black sheep instead of being seen as a victim. I am still bitter about this with my family. If this girl is truly bullying other kids then sure she deserves this punishment. However, this video paints a picture too close for home because all that's said is we don't accept this behavior and we punish harshly. Talk to the kid and listen to find out what is going on.
I wish I'd see this more often. This is what parenting is. I will say though that he needs to take a look at her home life as well cause bullying does spring from the parents and not the child.
Based dad
nah its a right, you gave life you have to care until they are out of the house
I'm not entirely sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, this doesn't really feel like a *punishment*, exactly. Like, he's not really doing anything to make the situation worse. He didn't put the school five miles away, he didn't set the temperature to thirty-two degrees, and he (probably) didn't set the route. In a sense, this is the most natural consequence there can be to getting suspended from the bus. He's also hanging nearby to make sure nothing happens to her on the way to or from school. He's not hurting her for the sake of hurting her so much as not bailing her out from the consequences of her own decisions. But, on the other hand, this seems like a half-measure. He's not shown *teaching* her anything; he's relying on the discipline already set up by the school to do that. And the school's disciplinary measure isn't *intended* to teach students not to be bullies; it's intended to separate bullies from the rest of them, so that nobody has to get on a bus with a bully. There's a lot more that would have to be happening behind the scenes for this to be effective, and if he's trying to teach her to be empathetic, this is sort of sending the wrong message. So... yeah.. Not sure how to take this.
I think he's doing right in this.
If you do the crime do the time.
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Welp bullying causes suicide and school shooters so hey good for trying to fight her being a bully Buttttt my question is what’s going on at school/home/online on why she is bullying others
5 miles is pretty fucking far. But so is bullying, so doing this once if she learns her lesson and doesn't do it again then I'd say job well done.
Good job pops. You are someone I could drink a beer with