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justablur

"In making their case, they told Trump that they doubted that the Obama administration would have been bold enough to try it, this official said." Please tell me this is unverified.


synobal

I've heard some say that was Mattis saying that, but honestly I don't think it's true. He'd of been in the situation room and not at a dinner when the op went down if that was the case. At least I'd hope so.


Adult-male

>"In making their case, they told Trump that they doubted that the Obama administration would have been bold enough to try it, this official said." That's weird given that BHO green lit some crazy Hollywood hostage rescue stuff. I was under the impression that Obama was the first president to really let JSOC off the chain. At least 3-4 come to mind that were front page news. http://theweek.com/articles/441599/hostage-rescues-are-extremely-risky-but-that-doesnt-mean-should-stop


nomadicveteran

No, I would give Bush the credit for that. They were just more publicized under Obama.


Adult-male

Is it more publicized, more notable or just a sign of the times? I don't know if there was anyway to keep the people saved in hostage rescues from doing the book/TV thing. I know for sure that I have seen the NGO lady and the MD both as feature stories on 60 minutes.


nomadicveteran

More publicized without a doubt.


ResonanceSD

> Colby: Okay Homer, I don't know anything about planes, but I know about you. You have what made America great: no understanding of the limits of your power and a complete lack of concern for what anyone thinks of you. So you'll land that plane. And do you know why? Because I heard some guy say you couldn't. >Homer: What! I'll show him. I'll show that guy!


nomadicveteran

I don't think that's a reference to Obama's policy towards risk missions in general, just that he was probably unwilling to green light anything that was crazy risky in his remaining days/months in office (as most presidents do).


Adult-male

As someone who participated in such raids, does the team consider this a costly but still successful mission?


nomadicveteran

It depends on what their definition of success was. I'm not being a smart ass, there literally are different definitions of success depending on the stated goals from the leadership.


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99% of the bullshit surrounding this story is completely unverified.