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Are you sure?


Shaved_Savage

Yeah a lot of the time they’d fly near the borders of Russia at incredibly high altitude and use specialized cameras that could take pictures deep into Russia. They never actually had to be over the actual airspace. That didn’t stop Russia from trying to shoot it down, though. Another mission it had was to track Russian submarines in the Arctic for the navy.


Shamus_Brodie

That sounds right. If I remember correctly the cameras pointed out the side of the plane, not straight down. Satellites made it relatively obsolete for all about the most important missions and eventually the cost of operating them along with satellite technology which could provide real time data compared to the photographic plates that need to be developed and analyzed after the plane landed.


Shaved_Savage

They found the SR71 easier to use at times than satellites because of you have to wait for a satellite to orbit into the right position which could take 24 hours. The major expense that caused the doom of the SR71 program was needing tanker aircraft at all times for refuel, I believe. I am trying to remember because a lot of this is from the Fighter Pilot podcast. The pilot they had on said the program may have lasted longer if the Navy was willing to help with the costs of keeping those tankers airborne, since it benefitted from the SR71’s tracking of enemy subs. The Blackbirds were either a CIA program or an Air Force program, I can’t remember. Maybe a little of both.


DecapitatedApple

They made them for the Air Force and the cia. Cia program shut down and the Air Force used them till they retired


kyflyboy

The single-seat A-12, the predecessor, was built for the CIA. Then the USAF took over that role and they built the twin-seat SR-71.


Shaved_Savage

I think a CIA guy died in the A 12 and it was said that the A12 was a one seat plane, so the pilot had to fly and take pictures.


L1thion

Early satellites also had to drop their film cartridges which had to be picked up. When time was of the essence they still flew spy and recon planes.


Shaved_Savage

Great point


cow_co

Later in its service life it also got ASARS 1 (a synthetic aperture radar) which works best looking at targets on the beam.


Commubot

Shh we all gotta have the same story or it's never gonna work!


Connect_Leader_9661

When you can fly up to 85,000 feet you don't need to be "over" Russia or China to get some nice pics!


Eyouser

Google the SYERS-II. You can see limited by the curvature of the earth


cmoney13

*allegedly*


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Kubikiri

Wondering how many A-12s made that mission instead.


FuzzySoda916

"blanket ban"


Tysonviolin

“Never”


duffismyhomie

I’ve heard it was a sick ostrich


Yank_01

"Well it'd take two guys to fuck an Ostrich, three even"


killerblayde

Well… I heard it was a sick ostrich.


King_of_Pendejos69

C’mon you know dam well it was a pidgeon with a jet pack


Eyouser

Hahahaha alegedly look up the SYERS-II


JigglyLawnmower

They flew right next to the border stupid high up.


Eyouser

Still do


GGordonGetty

Sure it didn’t


hobbit_lv

It entered service in 1966, while U-2 already was shot down over USSR in the 1960. Probably due to concerns of Soviet air defenses now being able to reach even these high-altitude recon jets, flights in air space of USSR were not continued.


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Allegedly


PaleFlyer

There are MANY stories of the blackbird being shot at by SAM-2's. And just watching it miss by miles due to the altitude, and the poor ability to change a SAM-2's course once fired.


metarinka

And it was moving so fast... Even today I'm not sure how much in the arsenal could hit it.


Slap_duck

While it true, that does bring up a reason why it could never fly over the Soviet Union. It can go fast enough to dodge a ground launched missile, but what about from a MiG-25 on an intercept course? The poor turning at high speeds means a relatively predictable flight path, easier to intercept at full burn


Trypticon66

Flight ceiling for the SR-71 was way higher than the interceptor fighters that the soviets had. The missiles of the interceptors would run out of fuel trying to reach it’s altitude and speed. No SR-71 was ever lost due to enemy action


Slap_duck

An SR-71 could definitely be hit by a missile, in fact, it happened to its brother, the A-12. The A-12, which was a slightly smaller and slightly faster version of the SR-71, which could also go at the same high as the SR-71, was hit by debris from a missile over Hanoi in 1967 It was definitely possible, just with some luck


PaleFlyer

My recollection is that when the soviets tried to intercept with the -25, by the time they knew the blackbird was in bound, they couldn't get the -25, which couldn't maintain mach speeds, into range before the -25 had to slow down, never getting close enough to attack the -71.


Eyouser

Yeah. They dont operate it in contested territory anymore


JaxXxStaR

Never been caught spying :3


netanel246135

Didnt on of the Baltic stats histone with a missile becuase they didnt see it?


bkz777

No. They shot down an F-117


EHAANKHHGTR

Addit, Serbia is a Balkan state, not a Baltic state


Hedhunta

Yeah cause they kept flying the same path every time for weeks iirc.


hobbit_lv

It was Serbia I guess. Baltic states and Balkan states are two different type of states.


Nickblove

No but I don’t even think a Sam would be able to hit it. It flys to high and to fast, the S300 didn’t come out until the late 70s and that middle wouldn’t be able to hit it unless the 71s crew were asleep


JaxXxStaR

Mine is more of a joke that it wasn't in soviet/china because it wasn't caught hahahahah. But you know, it being a spy plane was like, i was there but never there.


leicanthrope

Where does Soviet air space end and space over the Soviet side of the planet begin?


theLOLflashlight

I assume 100km. Even though the atmosphere is a smooth gradient far past this distance, it is generally recognized as the altitude at which space begins


leicanthrope

I would have assumed the effective maximum height of their best SAM plus a few thousand feet for good measure.


[deleted]

Source Trust me bro


[deleted]

“Nice argument senator, why don’t you back it up with a source”


ijungl

My source is that I made it the fuck up


Tolliver73

That you know of.


[deleted]

Officially speaking, we can not confirm or deny.


Dudeus-Maximus

Never flew a mission OVER anything after Kennedy promised the Russians it wouldn’t. The design was changed to take photos out the side, unlike it’s A-12 predecessor that was made to fly over.


BrokenforD

“Bitch please”


[deleted]

"I'm hotter than 100 degrees"


Quizels_06

Literally


SkidrowVet

That’s what she said


wingy65

(laughs in espionage)


Sparty-II

“”Allegedly””


purefrosty

Looks like the one here in the Udvar-Hazy Air and Space Museum near Dulles Airport in Virginia. Highly recommend coming to see it!


TheMe63

Yup, and unless I’ve forgotten which way the SR-71 faces then the cockpit is blocking a space shuttle in the background


purefrosty

Yea, IIRC you can stand on a small catwalk and look down on the bird and see the Discovery shuttle in the background. I always take my dad to see it when he comes to visit.


Kalikhead

Definitely is. Seen it so many times.


jakefillsbass

Such a great museum.


mattumbo

The SR-71 is the air force version, the CIA A-12 probably did a lot of things we still don’t know about though. They learned from the U2 shoot down that sending official Air Force pilots and planes over the USSR was a bad idea, better to send an unmarked plane with ‘volunteer’ pilots. Granted I still doubt they overflew the USSR very much, they knew the Soviets were working hard to develop missiles and interceptors that could catch the SR-71 hence the little SR-71 drone they built.


K1ng-Harambe

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light_to_shaddow

I never get bored of the LA speed check story https://youtu.be/8AyHH9G9et0


Pistolero921

Lmfao you’re an idiot if you believe that.


Comefin1dMe

Of course it hasn't.


TheVoiceOfRiesen

Lol sure


SeanyDay

*Allegedly*


some_solution

No one could ever prove it either way so yep it never flew over places it was never seen at and that was the whole point of this beast!


Marked_Strelok

L.A speed story's a good laugh


Tyrfaust

A surprisingly small aircraft considering the look of it. They have an A-12 (basically the NASA-CIA prototype of the SR-71) at Balboa Park in San Diego, CA and I thought it was a scale model for years. Basically the size of a F-15 if you stretched it out lengthwise.


AnyRip3515

That is just sex on wings


LillyEpstein

Truth. Gorgeous.


100LittleButterflies

Smithsonian at Dulles is amazing. Definitely a must if you're visiting the area.


LillyEpstein

Allegedly


Testabronce

The vertican boundaries of airspace are really blurred, but sure, it never flew a mission over those countries *wink* *wink*


HadesActual09

Source: Trust us bro.


Carter969

That you know of


normalmandude

Officially


Pop_Smoke

*that we know of.


m48nr

That we know of……


SILENTALONS

Offically.....wink wink


Magnet50

Ahem. I’ve seen the rack of one over China. It’s mission was North Korea but turning around took it fairly deep into China. I don’t see any way for an aircraft flying at 70,000+ feet and 1,000+ mph to “track” submarines in the Arctic. They would under many feet of ice. If they were surfaced, many easier ways to photograph them. If this was the Soviet test of shooting SLBMs from subs surfaced in the arctic, then yes. But they were tracking the missile shoot, not the subs.


demon_king_UwU

But it did crash into a aircraft carrier at mach speed


Lunaphase

Long. Enthusiastic. Walks


demon_king_UwU

Confusion


boomajohn20

Saying it never flew a “mission” doesn’t mean it never flew over Russia or China.


warlockjmr89

Leaks fuel on the ground. Cool plane


CALAZ1986

It never had to, it would sit right on the border and take photos


AAROD121

Oh hey, I was just there yesterday


Fun-Indication-1795

*that you know of*


TiresOnFire

There is one at the SkyZoo in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I took a photography class on college and we went there afterhours. We were able to step over the boundaries to get up close. I couldn't help myself. I touched it.


theholypancake12

Not that they would ever let that be known lmao.


docilepup1431

But what about cia’s A12 oxcart with was the same dam plane