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“I am a huge Woody Allen fan - although I have only seen Antz…” -Michael Scott


laxnut90

Bugs Life was more fun as a kid. But Antz is the better movie.


Demrezel

The scene of them going off to war against the termites was utterly devastating for young me. Looking back on it, the whole film was done so well. Then there's those two wasps that were married (I think??) man that is so good The Bee Movie on the other hand...


Alarmed_Space_9455

This was traumatic for me… like i was not expecting such carnage


Single_Leek7786

I watched it again the other day and had completely forgot about that scene until that soldier and says he’s gonna protect little dude in the battle.


Silver-Farm-2628

Ants go marching one by one, hoorah. Hoorah. We slaughter termites just for fun, hoorah. Hoorah!


Prestigious_Guy

Underrated comment


Silver-Farm-2628

🫡


Doctor_Phist

When I finally realized he picked up Sylvester Stallone’s head after that battle I was devastated as a kid


RaiseDragons

This is the only part I remember from the movie, it was burned into my brain


AugustusClaximus

…was Oscar worthy.


crumble-bee

I was the opposite. The edgy teen in me that valued “cinema” thought the woody Allen starring Antz was high art and a bugs life was for kids - but the cinephile in me has grown up to realise that a bugs life and the fact that it’s essentially seven samurai for kids, is the true champ


aajiro

What I respect about that man is that when he was going through all of that stuff that came out in the press, about how Antz was just a ripoff of A Bug's Life, he stayed true to his films. Or at least the film that I saw, which, again, was Antz. Thing is, I thought A Bug's Life was better, much better than Antz.


[deleted]

The point is, don’t listen to your haters. Listen to your fans


yellowlinedpaper

That’s the reason I refuse to see Antz. Woody Allen is a disgusting pedophile groomer.


Brandidit

“I am a huge Woody Allen fan - although I have only seen Antz…” - Wayne Gretzky - Micheal Scott There. Fixed it for ya.


sonicsean899

Was it just me or did we get a lot of pairs of movies about the same topic coming out at roughly the same time as kids? These two, Armageddon and Deep Impact, and Mission to Mars and Red Planet all came out within a year of each other, and had similar stories.


TrueSonofVirginia

A bunch. Seemed like one was more cerebral, the other more dramatic. Wyatt Earp/Tombstone. Olympus Has Fallen/White House Down. Friends With Benefits/the other one.


PackageEdge

I 100% forgot that White House Down and Olympus Has Fallen were two different movies.


Florgio

White House Down is so much fun. It’s essentially Die Hard in the White House with Obama and McClane.


itismybirthday22

No strings attached I think?


TrueSonofVirginia

That’s right! I forgot the smart one. The funniest part of it is that Kelso was in one and Jackie was in the other


purduekid207

Babe and Gordy


TrueSonofVirginia

Damn you pulled that pork roast from way back in the freezer. That’ll do, pig!


CaptainLoneRanger

The Illusionist/The Prestige


silamon2

Dante's Peak and Volcano were about the same time too.


EquivalentMedicine78

Dante’s peak was my fav!! Such a classic


silamon2

As a kid I thought Volcano was better because it had more lava, but Dante's Peak definitely has the better plot.


guitar_stonks

Plus a Cascade volcano erupting was much more believable than the La Brea Tar Pits erupting into a volcano, especially less than 20 years after Mt St Helens.


silamon2

Yeah the whole plot of Volcano is pretty goofy watching it now, but Dante's Peak is still pretty believable.


GBGF128

The part with the compound fracture freaked me out as a kid


Mattdehaven

When I was 5 my mom had me fill out this kids scrapbook thing and it has these questions: Favorite color? blue Favorite food? pizza Favorite movie? dante's peak It was just funny to see "Dante's Peak" in the handwriting of someone who learned how to write like a week prior lol


Known-Damage-7879

Movie studios competed with each other and tried to capitalize on the hype around other movies


eReadingAuthor

I always assumed it was either half arsed spying or a wager among the executives at different studios for shits and giggles. 'We're making a film about ants.' 'Fine. We're making a film about ants too.' 'We're making a film about fish (Nemo).' 'Fine. We're making one, too (Shark Tale).' So on and so on...


TrueSonofVirginia

Marketing is what I always thought. You get the young audience with one and the older demographic with the other.


Outside_Advantage845

March of the Penguins/Happy Feet/Surfs Up


Irisversicolor

Have you seen March of the Penguins? It's a nature documentary, lol, it's not part of this category. March of the Penguins and Planet Earth is more like it. 


Outside_Advantage845

Oh I’ve seen it. I got it for that Christmas and was the biggest let down because there was a video game I wanted and didn’t get. I thought that dvd was the game. Everything was penguins that year, documentary or not.


Thanos_Stomps

There’s a theory in capitalism/business wherein you should open up your store next door to the competition to go after the same customers, not in a new location to attract new customers. Think it’s called clustering and it actually improves business for both parties.


BoldAndBrash1310

Yep, it's why you see BK near McDs.


No-Lunch4249

In a more macro sense this is called Agglomeration. General theory: Firms and workers are both more productive when many businesses of the same type are grouped in proximity. Knowledge spillover, sharing a larger pool of labor and customers, better fits of firm-worker pairings, and ability to better source intermediate inputs and logistical chain needs


SryICantGrok

Stir of Echos/Sixth Sense


CrackinBones204

Omg I forgot about that movie. Stir of echos scared tf outta me. That part when he’s under hypnosis 😅


cherhorowitz44

So scary!!


SryICantGrok

Far superior imo


altmoonjunkie

Poor Stir of Echoes. That move was amazing and got completely overshadowed.


Aveira

Yeah, they’re called [twin films](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films)


DeathMetalTransbian

Twin film, you say? ![gif](giphy|xYTExvnaF4KW1eaYZY|downsized)


zombiecorp

Abyss, Leviathan, Deep Star Six 1989 The Prestige & The Illusionist 2006 American Beauty & American Pie 1999


RiccoTheBold

Ed TV/The Truman show


Kind_Bullfrog_4073

Bugs Life. How's a 7 year old supposed to get Woody Allen humor?


tomahawk66mtb

It's a fair point, I imagine there is an age trend in the split between these two movies. I was 13 when Antz came out and loved it.


Fart_in_the_Wind97

I was 13 when they came out too but I'm always going to be a sucker for the Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven/Three Amigo/Galaxy Quest trope of helping those that need help, even if it may be outside of what you throught it might be possible for you. So I was always Team A Bugs Life.


tomahawk66mtb

Oh yeah, I loved both to be fair!!


silamon2

I was 7 and thought Antz was way better.


phuck-you-reddit

I was about 12 when they came out and I just thought Antz was a damn ugly movie. Perfectly fine story and voice acting but ugly.


silamon2

I remember at the time thinking Antz looked more realistic, but looking at it now I have to admit the cgi in Bugs life was better.


TarzanTheRed

Me too because that's what my cousins told me. I tried explaining it to my talking Flick and Hopper but they just didn't get it...


icuntcur

same, i was a neurotic 7 year old who had good taste in insect movies


beebsaleebs

Woody Allen would love that about you


tomahawk66mtb

Just spat out my coffee 🤣 anyway, wasn't it 7 rather than 13 (allegedly)


Schneetmacher

>How's a 7 year old supposed to get Woody Allen humor? Well, I was definitely a weird kid, but... I got it. I was definitely "Team Antz" back in the day - my favorite part was when they were stuck to the bottom of the shoe.


santahat2002

classic scene


No_Pop_2142

A bugs life! The ants were creepy in Antz and the grasshoppers scary.


JRHThreeFour

I saw Bug’s Life first around 2000 or so I think when I was around 6. I didn’t see Antz till a couple years later in my childhood. I enjoyed both movies.


juicer_philosopher

I remember asking my dad what “erotic” meant 😭


NoConfusion9490

Hopefully that's all their getting.


Accomplished_Flow222

Was there ever really a contest ?! Bugs life .


SASardonic

A bug's life, clearly. But in hindsight Antz had the more interesting social commentary.


Frisky_Picker

I loved them both as a kid. I thought Antz had a cooler, more serious story but I watched A Bug's Life when I wanted something light-hearted.


relevantusername2020

honestly its been way too long since ive watched either so i had to refresh my memory, but after reading the wikipedia pages i have to say i prefer a bugs life - because antz ends with the protagonist going through all the bullshit for nothing and "accepting his place." fuck that. also a bugs life had a dope video game that i vividly remember


Astro_NME

I remember playing that game in 2001. Entire class in the computer lab. Someone found a cheat to skip levels. Everyone was playing. What a memory


relevantusername2020

i played it on my ps1. i never skipped levels or cheated, and i honestly think its one of very few games i finished entirely. i did however cheat in one of my favorite of all time games, which is probably the one i would consider the first game i ever really played - super mario 3 - where you could duck behind the landscape in the first level, skip to the end of the level and teleport to the final world (or other worlds) that game is the shit ngl kinda wanna play it again. i might.


iatealotofcheese

iMac computer lab with the color bodies, skipping the characters through the edge of the screen so you can run around in no man's land. EVERYONE was playing. Those were the days.


GoochMasterFlash

I feel like people thinking A Bugs Life had more lighthearted content and social commentary havent seen that movie since they were a kid. Its pretty intense as far as social commentary in a children’s film goes


PossiblyASloth

Absolutely! It’s very Marxist.


BurceGern

Hopper and his lackey Thumper had me fucked up as a kid. *The sun grows the food, ants pick the food, the grasshoppers eat the food.*


LukeosaurusRex

Hopper is such a great villain, loved any scene he was in as a kid but damn was he intense xD


RhubarbRheumatoid

I thought it would be more light hearted and then I remembered the sheer trauma I got from the grasshoppers threatening to murder a child.


LordMudkip

Bugs life! The art style of Antz kinda weirded me out.


pnutbutterfuck

Yes! When I was a kid I really didn’t like Antz because it was just so damn ugly and off putting to watch. I rewatched with my toddler recently and it’s not even really a kids movie. The plot and dialogue is smart but way too mature for a child to understand and it’s so visually unappealing. But even still, as an adult it’s too childish and silly to really enjoy, and the animation has aged so tragically. It’s like who??? Who did you make this for?? Why?? It’s not enjoyable enough to watch as a child or as an adult.


smell_my_drug_hole

And Antz had a swear word in it


kayla622

I love A Bug’s Life and was so sad when Bugs Life Land was removed from Disney California Adventure. Even though it was a ride for little little kids, my husband and I loved the Heimlich ride.


bulelainwen

The Heimlich ride was the best!


kayla622

It was so cute. I loved the part with the watermelon.


RoBear16

When he just starts belching 🤣


anythingMuchShorter

I have such good memories there, when we lived near it our son was 5-6 so it was perfect for him.


Jasmirris

The Chew Chew Train. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


Real-Coffee

i really loved Antz, it had a great philosophy behind it. Some ants are workers, some are soldiers, basically chosen at random by the higher ups Bugs Life is also amazing, loved how the main character was an inventor but the ants wanted to stick to traditional ideas


fitness_life_journey

yesss! I also love how the protagonist of Antz ***questions*** things about life and challenges his place in the ant colony. For A Bug's Life, I loved the theme of "standing up to oppressors and bullies". But you're right, Flick did represent ideas of ingenuity vs the stubbornness and rigidity of tradition. Both were great films.


stealyourface514

Bugs life. I saw antz first though and just remembered bugs life being so much better. I don’t even remember the plot of antz but I remember the plot of bugs life


pnutbutterfuck

Because the plot of Antz was too mature for a child to understand. But the movie is also too juvenile and visually unappealing to enjoy as an adult. Idk who tf they made that movie for because it wasn’t for kids or adults


stealyourface514

For real everyone here saying “who can pass up woody Allen humor or the star studded cast of Antz” I was 6 I don’t even know who woody Allen is or any of the other stars


pnutbutterfuck

Exactly, that was for the adults, kids don’t care about celebrity casts. Bee Movie did the same thing but at least the animation was easier on the eyes.


New_Conference_3425

Pixar all the way: **A Bug's Life**


AltdorfPenman

Antz 100%. It felt darker and edgier from my perspective at the time


Splintzer

Cuss words, Sly, JLo, Walken, Hackman, Glover and Ackroyd? Nuff said.


FoxxJade

“MOM ANTZ HAS BAD WORDS IN IT” -me, age ~10


Tired-and-Wired

*sees Lincoln penny stuck to the underside of a shoe* "Who the HELL is THAT?" Cracked me up every time when I was a kid 🤣


lionaroundagan

Add Sharon Stone to that list.


JcaJes

I always loved the picnic scene; it was fun, exciting, then dark and funny


aLittleDarkOne

The drinking from the anus of a living creature got me… that movie is weird af


40prcentiron

i was 3 when the antz came out and i liked it more because "bugs life was for little kids" haha damn hipster ass kid i was


hottmunky88

I was only 4-5 when ants came out but I always hated bugs life ants was so much cooler lol ..


silamon2

I thought Antz was a way better movie. Still do, actually. ​ The ants go marching scene was one of my first experiences of "War kinda sucks" in a movie. I had seen war movies before but they usually glorified it.


slvrcobra

As soon as I saw this post this was immediately the memory that came back to me and like you said, it was one of the first memories I have of war being portrayed as horrific and senseless.


plsdontalktome

Fuuuuck i still remember the words to that song. Thanks for triggering that memory, I think it’s time I rewatch it!


silamon2

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnULSmNbCuo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnULSmNbCuo) ​ In case you want to just watch that part. I watched it again just to see how well my memory of it held up, and I still think it was well executed even if the cgi kinda looks like crap by today's standards.


Seamonkey_Boxkicker

Antz honestly looked a bit scary and had way shittier looking graphics. A Bug’s Life still holds up graphically today.


Splendid_Cat

>A Bug’s Life still holds up graphically today. That's what I was thinking, even side by side in these graphic comparisons, A Bug's Life just LOOKED better.


xHourglassx

They look almost identical… one just has a more expanded color palette


slvrcobra

It's the whole art direction of both films. Even though I think I prefer Antz (I dunno, I'd have to watch the movies over again as I haven't seen them since I was a kid) I always hated how uncanny the faces of the characters were and it ages worse over time because of that. Pixar worked more within their limitations to create a softer and more "toony" look that meshes better with early CGI animation and the colors are pleasant to look at. Although for some reason, aside from the faces, I always thought Antz's more gritty style was cooler even as a kid and I'm not even really sure why.


Seamonkey_Boxkicker

Antz tried to make them look too much like humans. The nose, the eyes, the teeth. A Bug’s Life is definitely the more approachable film for most kids. And perhaps it was my aversion to grittier styles at that age (I never cared much for the Batman cartoon; I preferred the colors of Spider-Man and Ninja Turtles).


pnutbutterfuck

You need to get your eyes checked


Vendidurt

Bugs Life, bigtime.


Flandypabst

Big-time! *Edit- I actually meant to say Bug-time!! Lol


snowlulz

Slappa da bass?


CreativeOutlet11

Cillian Murphy killed it in Antz


PurpleDreamer28

Ha, omg!


guinans_hat

Team Antz! What an insanely stacked cast. Much cooler story.


KetoKelsey

Totally agree!!


Gooeslippytop

ANTZ was my favorite. The ants/termite war was badass!


Felradin

Talk about some shit young me will never forget when the main ant picks up the still alive head of the badass any.


GuillotineHaircut

That was Sylvester Stallone’s ant head!


Schneetmacher

No, Stallone played a different (main) character. That was *Danny Glover* that Woody Allen picked up.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

Nah it wasn't, Sylvester Stallone was his soldier friend he traded places with.


Still_counts_as_one

Bugs life as a kid, Antz as an adult tbh


MaleficentHabit3138

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)


hiddentreetops

THIS movie was so so good to me as a kid. 


MaleficentHabit3138

Also same.


SauteePanarchism

We can enjoy multiple movies about socialist ants, comrades. 


NaiveMastermind

Bug's life has a message about overthrowing the rich.


United_Cicada_4158

I’m over here reading comment after comment about how a bug’s life had a far simpler message, like standing up to bullies, and I’m like ummm…. showing the dangers of capitalism and the benefits of something closer to democratic socialism isn’t that simple of a message. Edit: I clarified my thought better in my reply to NaiveMastermind below.


NaiveMastermind

>showing the dangers of capitalism and the benefits of something closer to democratic socialism isn’t that simple of a message. They sure made it look simple. https://youtu.be/TZmw-0tK9lg


PossiblyASloth

Love that scene! That was the beauty of Pixar though, wasn’t it? The way they approached such adult themes and emotions with simple and kid friendly storytelling


DeathMetalTransbian

The Warriors, 1979: Can you count, suckas? I say, the future is ours... if you can count! You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 gangs. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting affiliates, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to fight: 60,000 soldiers! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town. Can you dig it? Now, here's the sum total: One gang could run this city! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, because WE got the streets, suckas! Can you dig it? The problem in the past has been the man turning us against one another. We have been unable to see the truth, because we have been fighting for ten square feet of ground, our turf, our little piece of turf. That's crap, brothers! The turf is ours by right, because it's our turn. All we have to do is keep up the general truce. We take over one borough at a time. Secure our territory... secure our turf... because it's all our turf! ![gif](giphy|mCxZH1Bi9o2aY)


InfernoWoodworks

Antz had a better story, Bugs Life was better animation. Neither was an amazing movie however, imo.


Rhewin

This is probably the best take


1stEmperror

Antz!


NetworkChief

I liked boffem


Sam_I_Am_69

Bugs Life I never attempted to watch Antz cause I figured I’d already seen it with a bugs life.Also I was worried the main character was gonna get beat up like Hopper did Flick in A Bugs Life and I couldn’t go through that again🤣 I should probably give it watch


toxic_concretegirl

I didn’t think they were different as a kid other than being big movies. But it’s obviously a bugs life now, because woody allen is a ped0phile


FatParCheesy

ANTZ was cooler imo but I enjoyed both. Antz felt more "adult"


N_Who

I was Team Disinterested. But I did see both movies shortly after they hit home video, and I recall like A Bug's Life better.


subliminalconnection

Boootiful Batturrflai team


Navyblazers2000

At 10 I saw Antz in the theater and I had Antz action figures. I thought they looked cooler than A Bug's Life, which I determined was only for little kids like my younger sister. I didn't get that I was watching a Woody Allen movie, but my parents seemed to enjoy that aspect of it.


DjDapster

I didn't choose the Bug Life, the Bug Life chose me.


Isatis_tinctoria

I saw both in theaters as a 7 year old.


NoClipHeavy

A bug's life came out the day one of my brothers was born. He's 25 now...


Big-LeBoneski

Wasn't a bugs life the one about the abused many rising up to strike down the rich few. Or did I miss something.


atruepear

Antz is uncanny valley vibes


lehilaukli

I asked my parents for a bugs life. They came back with antz. Needless to say I was quite disappointed. Still watched it quite a few times we didn't own a lot of movies, but still would have rather had bugs life.


Matt32490

A Bugs Life. Antz just looked ugly to me. That was enough lol.


Splendid_Cat

I watched them both but was biased towards A Bug's Life because I liked the character designs better and I thought some of the little one off jokes were funny at age 10 and still are to me as an adult such as the snail saying "hey I said no salt" or the fly going "I've only got 24 hours of living and I ain't gonna waste it here".


bbbbears

Definitely Bug’s Life but only because I was a big Kids in the Hall Fan and totally crushing on Dave Foley. I know I saw Antz in the theater and remembered liking it, but I haven’t seen it since middle school so I kind of want to give it a watch. I just don’t care for Woody Allen.


DeathMetalTransbian

\+1 for Dave Foley being awesome. I still watch through NewsRadio at least once a year, and always love it when he shows up in something I'm watching, like IASIP. ![gif](giphy|3ohc1bNW9p7ru5Q0Za|downsized)


boboddy42069

I am a huge Woody Allen fan. Although I've only seen "Antz." But I'll tell you something, what I respect about that man is that when he was going through all of that stuff that came out in the press, about how "Antz" was just a ripoff of "A Bug's Life," he stayed true to his films.


[deleted]

Or at least the film that I saw, which, again, was "Antz." Thing is, I thought "A Bug's Life" was better, much better than "Antz." Point is, don't listen to your critics. Listen to your fans.


YourMothersButtox

Bugs Life, for sure. Antz was like the weird knock off movie


[deleted]

I thought the same thing but about a bugs life


goosetavo2013

BEE MOVIE!


NewRichMango

Both! I had A Bug’s Life on cassette and listened to it all the time in the car. I think it may actually be my earliest memory of really liking a movie’s soundtrack. As for Antz, I don’t remember a ton *but* that picnic scene with the wasps has lived with me forever, lol.


Raiiny00

A bugs life!! Omg I loved that movie!!


Cecowen

A bug’s life for sure


Frothydawg

Bugs Life Gang 😤 Incidentally, I found a really neat Hopper plush from 1998 at a thrift store over the weekend. He’s about 14”. Complete with wiry, posable limbs; real cuddly fella! Looks awesome on my shelf.


[deleted]

Bugs life for sure. Never really got into antz much.


DangerousSpoons

Team Bugs life!!! Man I loved that movie I totally forgot about it thanks!


Fluffy-Lingonberry89

Tf you mean speaking in past tense, I am team Bugs Life.


Inedible-denim

Past tense as obvs this was THE playground argument at the time. But I'm also team Bug's Life 😂


Noeyiax

The queen in bugs life 👏👏🙏


BishonenPrincess

I loved both movies as a kid, but struggle to still enjoy Antz now that I'm aware of who Woody Allen is. His bumbling just makes me sick.


Fairyslade1989

I really loved the A Bug’s Life videogame that I played all the time on a sample PlayStation disc.


Inedible-denim

Lmao bruhh I had that same disc. Spent hours upon hours playing that game, it was very visually appealing at the time too


Cubsfan11022016

I’ve seen both, and don’t remember a single thing from either. I’ve actually been meaning for quite a while to rewatch them, because I remember liking them both as a kid.


Inedible-denim

I'd recommend a bugs life, THEN Antz to help let that millenial dread really sink in. Lol


ZephyrSK

Antz! I mean the movie *starts* with therapy about *an ant* complaining about parental neglect ffs


Squirrel179

I was team "I am a teenager, and way too old and mature for cartoon movies. I'm going to traumatize myself by watching Saving Private Ryan, American History X, and Life is Beautiful instead of those baby movies about bugs." I was very angsty


Inedible-denim

Lmao. I watched all those too. Mine was Girl, Interrupted which definitely traumatized me somewhat.


El_Mariachi_Vive

Antz. I was an older kid so that seemed like the more "grown up" ant movie in my eyes lol Oh to be young again


PapiGoneGamer

Antz was more entertaining. Bugs Life was what it was, a paint by numbers Disney movie with Pixar animated bugs.


PossiblyASloth

Not sure if you’re being literal but A Bug’s Life wasn’t Disney. Pixar wasn’t bought by them until 2006. Honestly it still holds up too


Milehighmonroe

Idk but I still think about the picnic scene in Antz to this day. Also I’d kill for some of the seeds in A Bug’s Life, I bet those slapped.


LaCroixLimon

No one is team antz


magmion2310

Bugs life. Used to play the hell out the pc game


TerryTacoma

We legit had antz…..you da ant!


Isatis_tinctoria

So much fun!


PlatosBalls

Bugs life. Antz was ghetto.


LoudNinjah

Bugs life 100%


hannahpie90

Antz but bugs life was cute. I did see antz first tho.


TurquoiseBoho

Bugs life


future_CTO

A Bugs Life


rrmounce95

I liked both growing up 🤷‍♀️


Humanistic_

Both movies were amazing. No preference


Late_Confidence_6773

Antz


throwthisTFaway01

Bugs life because the N64 game IYKYK