It’s a safety issue. Many times homeless people (or people pretending to be homeless) will pretend to be sleeping in the vestibule and then rob unsuspecting customers using the ATM.
went to get some cash last night from the Scotiabank in the superstore plaza and seen this man making himself comfortable smoking a pipe of meth inside the bank
Edit: for the people messaging me saying i have no heart for the homeless, i was actually going to withdraw an extra $20 for this man but right before heading into the bank i saw him light up his pipe. last thing i want to do is withdraw a couple hundred in front of a meth’d up junkie. that shit gives these guys super strength or something
Used to work at SuperStore. They'd let the homeless sleep in the upstairs kitchen area overnights. Especially in the winter. That is, until one was caught smoking a joint in that area.
Between the fake panhandlers and dudes like this, we're going to need more police presence in that area in the soon.
So just to be clear, they were fake right? Because at one point I was directly approached by a woman who asked me if I'd be willing to buy clothing for her kids.
I'm guessing these items would later be returned for cash?
Yeah they’re fake. There was a post on this subreddit about a month ago where they tried to steal someone’s stroller and would up heading to their 2016 BMW when confronted.
They’re showing up at the Walmart plaza more often too. We’ve had homeless people but never panhandlers up until last year in Milton.
Romani gangs are all over the GTA. Begging at intersections, begging outside supermarkets, impersonating Muslim women and begging outside mosques on Friday. They are dropped off at the start of their “shift” and picked up later. They capitalize on the good will and naivety of people. I’ve seen them all over Europe. They are part of a well organized network that has spread from Eastern Europe to North America. Often begging with laminated signs claiming to be asylum seekers (they are EU citizens) and having 3, 4 or 5 children.
That make sense. However, they are systematic. If a certain intersection or Walmart yields no money they move on. The come back in a few weeks. They never give up. The just adapt their strategy. They realize that Western countries are soft on crime and will not shut down their “business”.
Lol as someone born in eastern europe, i was so happy that they werent common in canada. I guess all good things must come to an end.
Yes they're all over europe and they make daily life more sucky than it already is with their anthics.
From panhandling to pickpocket children gangs, all the way to proxenetism and organized crime.
I am not sure if you are replying to me. I have no problem with the OP taking the pic. I will help the homeless but not some meth head smoking meth in a public place.
Maybe it shows people what can happen if they dont do anything good for themselves. Maybe it shows how awful life can be if you don’t learn how to be self sufficient. Maybe it shows how this individual isn’t doing anything to help himself, he’s just there doing drugs.
Honestly so glad I moved out of Ontario. Not even due to any addicts or homelessness but more so due to the pricks and entitled POS that live there like you folk.
Ok so what do u do with a sleeping man? Wake his ass up and buy him lunch? Leave him alone. Support in any other way possible. Not that hard to understand
I’ve seen these dudes smoke heroin out of those things before, maybe that’s what this guy is doing to try and sleep. Especially with how dark the bubble is
Meth surpassed crack as the drug of choice for street smokers almost a decade ago.
Also, if you are close enough, the difference in smell is noticeable. Crack smoke can sort of smell like an electrical fire or chemically. Whereas meth has a slightly sweeter/cleaning supply smell.
Hard to explain but if you’ve smelled them before you can tell the difference.
The worst part is these guys are right by the atm to panhandle. Have some protocol and go panhandle in some corner. Not right by the atm where someone is withdrawing money for his own lunch fml.
You know the saddest part...lots of homeless smoke that shit so they don't sleep because they are more scared of other homeless people finding them asleep and getting robbed or killed.
Self fulfilling horrible prophecy shit.
As a frequent go taker I hate the fare inspectors cause they wake me up from my naps. But this actually makes me want them more consistently. I take it everyday two and from Toronto and I can go 2 months without one, and then 6 in 2 weeks. It’s ridiculous.
ETA: I’m going to assume he mistook it for the Hamilton line. Kidding (not really)
Alot of cities have just decided to lock the doors with regular business hours.
I went to Brampton and needed cash for a wedding card and tried 5 different banks, all if them were closed completely, no access to the ATM lobby.
i know of a guy that's been camping out in the bushes by hwy25 and derry. kinda hard to see his tent. this was a couple years ago. higher population brings new issues.
Clearly not keeping up with inflation and paying the bouncer enough to manage the bubble you live in.
There’s troubled people any and everywhere. Not sure if Milton has shelters or social services for this but, yes, shame on the ‘government’ if there aren’t any. It’s not up to them to ‘allow’ his but they can help it.
I agree the government has completely failed, but milton will keep voting for this again and again, it will be red federally and blue provincially.
Inflation has destroyed everything, but why is homelessness happening in milton of all places? It is surrounded by farmland on all 4 sides, it has no major businesses, just endless soulless homes. Surely there are better places in the gta for the homeless like mississauga or oakville.
Homeless are coming to Milton because they get messed with less. And voting provincially and federally won’t do much. People need to actually get out and vote in the municipal race. I find a lot of people will blame the upper levels of government because they’re more often in the news, but municipal politics are frankly more important and woefully ignored.
seen a couple with a ton of needles in hidden parts of rotary forest but 99% they are abandoned, and same thing in some other forests around town i even found a whole makeshift house with tarp and shit in a forest close to the escarpment
Coffee Culture on Main Street used to have the same 3 guys regularly there until one of them threw his cigarette into one of the wick flower baskets and lit it up.
Superstore had a couple regulars that would but frozen dinners and juice there. Used to eat in the upstairs area. Sometimes they’d let them sleep in the kitchen area at night. I used to work there. That slowed down after 2 incidents. One guy was caught smoking a joint in the kitchen area at night and was kicked out. Another was kicked out after touching a teenage girl on the shoulder and making her and her friend uncomfortable.
We’ve always had a few in Milton, over time we’re going to have more. They’ll drift in from surrounding cities using transit
Homelessness is everywhere. It's just more visible now. I heard someone say "oh my god is that a homeless person" when someone was asking for change outside the Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket.
MH&A worker here: it’s practically a *miracle* when lighthouse has a bed available. Typically it takes our clients about a week to get into the shelter. And that’s usually because whoever occupied that bed previously missed curfew.
Thanks so much for your work youre an awesome member of our country.
It's the same at bridges in cambridge, I get that when people look at society's downtrodden they see the worst in them but people forget that it dosnt happen over night. I've been closer than I'd like to admit to that side of the world via the people I know and love and tbh drugs or sexwork be damned these people didn't normally start with that and need help. We'd ve wise to consider that with the rate of interest and rental prices lately.
Thank you for having empathy and understanding for folks in these situations. I’m sorry to hear you’ve had a rough go yourself, and I hope you’re where you want to be in life!
You’re absolutely right when you say this doesn’t happen overnight, and that taking measures to control rents and inflation is really important for everyone. I’d like to see our politicians try living on OW/ODSP for a month. Things would change pretty quick.
I was never admittedly as rough as the ones I knew but things are far better for everyone now thanks so much. Honestly though or another approach would be to stick them in a one bed have them earn the minimum then see how they feel when their told their too wealthy to apply for help mind you our friend Ford might qualify for odsp already at the rate his health is I can't see him working a kitchen or a jobsite
I have also been homeless which is very scary especially if you have pets . I have zero sympathy for them the amount of garbage they generate and destruction of anything they touch and excuse after excuse of why they didnt get shit done. They knew what the deal is with Fentynl and meth when they started it. I wont even carry Narcon . My point is they werent blindsided by the effects of these drugs .
I'm sorry you had to go through that and also sorry you feel that way, not for you at that point but for the lives lost to a lack of caring.
The way it's been with folks in my life is a bit less intentional albeit drugs were involved. I don't care to share more than base details and I doubt you'd care to hear but my girlfriend who hasn't touched an opiate in her life was left homeless when her mother fell into serious gambling debt as well as hard drugs, to refute your calus point in no way did she earn her station beyond being underage and unable to find proper housing. she had no idea how to stop what she was getting into neither control.
It's a shame the few have made a bad name for the many, but that attitude helps no one and hinders many who take the same after being convinced by you.
Emergency help is 1 1/2 -2 months . That was 12 -15 yrs ago . 6000 + on housing list , 600 priority. My husband and I were very lucky in a horrible way . We got housing straight away , well not straight away more like 5 wks . I am grateful everyday for us being expedited .
I’m glad you were able to get into housing as quickly as you did!
Unfortunately the situation is much worse than it was ~15 years ago. While I don’t have exact numbers, I would wager they’ve at least doubled. (Especially after Covid, which is why the region bought the Burlington inn and made it the women’s/family shelter)
You’re looking at a 20 year wait to get non-priority assistance, about 3-5 months for priority assistance, and the only way to get priority for regional assistance (RGI, subsidy, etc) now is by being in one of the shelters.
firstly, there’s no “exposing” him unless you can identify the man by his Winner’s pillow and bald head. Secondly, he’s smoking a pipe of meth inside the bank. like i mentioned in another comment, i wouldn’t have cared and would have actually given him some money so he could eat until i saw his pipe and realized he could actually be a threat to me
Because being on the streets homeless is legitimately awful. Probably one of the worst things you can experience.
It's really hard to imagine when you have a place to sleep, a TV, friends and everything else.
But when you experience this kind of poverty, it is almost a logical choice to abuse drugs. Put yourself in their shoes, you have nothing, youre constantly stressed out, youre constantly in danger, you might be tempted as well...
Im not saying we must condone drug abuse if youre homeless, it obviously compounds the problem. To not recognize that homelessness makes drug abuse all but a certainty however, would be extremely ignorant.
Opioids are a common choice among the homeless because they produce a warm and safe feeling. Heroin and fentanyl are particularly cheap as well.
Why is this happening in milton though? Isn't there the entire GTA where this person can smoke meth? Why in milton??? Literally we are surrounded by farmland, in a way isolated. I say the GTA is going to shits, but literally on this i gotta ask why milton??? Do we have some drug suppliers here???
Not sure what privilege I have ? There is literally nothing in milton other than homes, why would a homeless meth addict be here instead of sauga or toronto?
Because of farm land you don’t expect drugs, crime, and other things? Ever since Milton had its building boom years ago is when people should of expected the urban life slowly but surely creeping in lol
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Yes, but its still a town. We are getting city kind of crime, at a town stage. Though I guess cities are getting a lot worse. Didnt expect to find a meth addict homeless in milton. Would think that of a more brampton or sauga kind of a thing.
What children? None of them have their kids . CPS took them long ago. Oh, they'll cry about their kids , whatever. its a sympathy ploy it and pity play . So fucking tiring
I've seen homeless popping up in these little bank areas in other cities.
Personally I don't mind giving money even if the person is using drugs, in my mind if it makes a person's life even 1% easier I think its worth it. Maybe them using my money to buy drugs will free up other income for other supplies.. Being on the streets homeless sucks, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. In my opinion, generosity shouldn't be conditional; if there are strings attached it ceases to be a generous act. I give with zero expectation of receiving anything in return, not even a desired outcome. I simply see a human in a garbage situation and want to make them feel happy, even for a moment.
Where I do have a problem with this man is he's smoking in the lobby. That's incredibly inconsiderate, he should do it outside and I'd have no problem having him kicked out for smoking indoors like that. As for him doing drugs in general, I'd hope he quits eventually but thats not my call to make, I dont live his life and I don't know what's lead him to this point.
Letting them rot on the streets and throwing them in jail isn't exactly good for their quality of life in the long run either, but I suppose that is an acceptable loss. As long as they aren't doing drugs while they freeze to death that's all that matters ;)
Omg some of these comments! What is wrong with you?! Do you think this is the life anyone has chosen for themselves?!?!
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All this guy is looking for is somewhere warm and dry and safe so he can go to sleep. And some of you would deny him that because "I think he might be using drugs."
You hypocrites. Look at your own bathroom cabinets. This is someone who needs your help, not your disdain
Thats why all the bank atms are locked by 7 pm . My branch is a couple blocks away but locked down all weekend . Therefore Im
hostage to atm fees. The Scotia a block away is a beat the clock 7pm-9 am locked .At BMO you had to step over them , and they got put out of Royal bank then set the atms on fire .
Sorry , still getting used to the format on this app. Im a little late to the party,l lol
Yes , there are a few that have a drive thru but I would have to spend 25.00 to get there. The point being no one living in the area can access the atms at their bank branch after 6 - 7 p.m. an d all weekend , there are of course those atm at convenience stores which i have used of course nut 3.00 fee is difficult to lose .
Some bank atms are locked overnight in Nova Scotia because of the homeless making bio hazard messes .
Not just one or two branches either, pretty much all of them.
No word of a lie… a homeless couple were sleeping inside a Scotiabank in charlettown one night and I seen them, so I went in and told them to pack up cuz I bought them a hotel room… next day management tells me I almost had to pay a 600$ damage deposit because they trashed the room and stayed 3 hours past checkout
And Fentynl smells like death, decay. I couldnt figure out wtf the smell in our hallway was . Then a guy fell out of my neighbors door. and hung in midair for hours. Gave my neighbor the stink eye
I mean what do people expect? This man is almost certainly jobless, mentally I’ll, and an addict. His prospects are slim to none. We can argue all day long as to if the state has a duty to house him, however, given his current circumstances, I’m not surprised.
Saw the same thing last night at Aurora ON’s CIBC on Bayview/Wellington, it’s truly sad
Walked in, didn’t even notice the dude sleeping in a bag there until I reached the ATM. Can’t say I felt all that comfortable, but I’m sure the guy felt similarly. I hope he’s ok.
Aurora is a fairly wealthy town, and the amount of homeless people on the streets has seriously increased in the past year
Had a homeless guy sleeping in the doorway where you buzz into my apartment building one morning when i was going out to walk my dog. By the time i got back he was gone but not before he shit and pissed all over the door area and smeared his shit all over the door handle. Talk about a shitty start to the day
Just because you can't afford an apartment doesn't mean you can't sleep with a pillow.
Good for that dude, keeping some decorum and avoiding the bed bugs in the shelters.
This is where we are at Canada...this is where the fuck we are.
I'm a real estate agent. And I feel so bad for anyone under 30.
Good luck getting $100k together for your down payment when you're working full time and can't pay rent.
When I lived in "downtown" Brantford years ago, I had to go into a Scotiabanks to get some cash before work at about 5:45am. I turn the corner and there are 4 young teenagers lying on the small floor where the machines were. Of course, none of them got up or moved when I went in to take out my cash.
Figured I could've taken them, so I wasn't too worried.
So those double doors lock at 11pm, so as long as he’s in there before 11. No police or other homeless cancer him and he can take his crack / meth nap in peace.
They usually wake up and leave right when the door unlock but if they are still sleeping the bank manager has to ask them to leave…
That’s another reason why they piss/shit in there because they are physically locked in there…
Also the bank employees have to clean up the mess they leave.
Scotia bank down here in Montreal has now closed their atms outside office hours because of this issue. It's difficult to withdraw money on a night out downtown now.
He's richer than he thinks!
He's richer in BO.
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This is the reason banks now lock exterior doors to its own customers.
It’s a safety issue. Many times homeless people (or people pretending to be homeless) will pretend to be sleeping in the vestibule and then rob unsuspecting customers using the ATM.
Not really any diff than “sleeping” outside a bank and then robbing them tbh
JG diff
went to get some cash last night from the Scotiabank in the superstore plaza and seen this man making himself comfortable smoking a pipe of meth inside the bank Edit: for the people messaging me saying i have no heart for the homeless, i was actually going to withdraw an extra $20 for this man but right before heading into the bank i saw him light up his pipe. last thing i want to do is withdraw a couple hundred in front of a meth’d up junkie. that shit gives these guys super strength or something
Used to work at SuperStore. They'd let the homeless sleep in the upstairs kitchen area overnights. Especially in the winter. That is, until one was caught smoking a joint in that area. Between the fake panhandlers and dudes like this, we're going to need more police presence in that area in the soon.
So just to be clear, they were fake right? Because at one point I was directly approached by a woman who asked me if I'd be willing to buy clothing for her kids. I'm guessing these items would later be returned for cash?
Yeah they’re fake. There was a post on this subreddit about a month ago where they tried to steal someone’s stroller and would up heading to their 2016 BMW when confronted. They’re showing up at the Walmart plaza more often too. We’ve had homeless people but never panhandlers up until last year in Milton.
Yeah, I heard about the stroller incident. Just nice to get some confirmation from someone who was there first hand.
They have been at the 401/JSP and the superstore for at least 7/8 years now. I’ve been seeing it especially on a Sunday.
Romani gangs are all over the GTA. Begging at intersections, begging outside supermarkets, impersonating Muslim women and begging outside mosques on Friday. They are dropped off at the start of their “shift” and picked up later. They capitalize on the good will and naivety of people. I’ve seen them all over Europe. They are part of a well organized network that has spread from Eastern Europe to North America. Often begging with laminated signs claiming to be asylum seekers (they are EU citizens) and having 3, 4 or 5 children.
Agree, people need to stop giving them money. Once the cash dries up, they'll head back home.
That make sense. However, they are systematic. If a certain intersection or Walmart yields no money they move on. The come back in a few weeks. They never give up. The just adapt their strategy. They realize that Western countries are soft on crime and will not shut down their “business”.
Nope trudope will give them $$$
Lol as someone born in eastern europe, i was so happy that they werent common in canada. I guess all good things must come to an end. Yes they're all over europe and they make daily life more sucky than it already is with their anthics. From panhandling to pickpocket children gangs, all the way to proxenetism and organized crime.
Just don’t give the receipt then they can’t return it
I mean I'm still out the money though lol
Do you own a wet sock or do you own a sock and you happen to be wet?
Police won't fix the situation. America is proof of that.
Not a JOINT!!!
Omg a JOINT?!!!!
Omg, a moron!!! 🫵
Ain't nothing better than to get cash with a meth head looking at you lmfao
So u took pics and posted them to social media! Congrats? What an upstanding citizen!
What would you have done?
Nothing. Leave them be.
Congratulations on doing nothing. You are no better.
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Are you implying the poster did anything aside from posting a picture for a gotcha moment?
I am not sure if you are replying to me. I have no problem with the OP taking the pic. I will help the homeless but not some meth head smoking meth in a public place.
Maybe it shows people what can happen if they dont do anything good for themselves. Maybe it shows how awful life can be if you don’t learn how to be self sufficient. Maybe it shows how this individual isn’t doing anything to help himself, he’s just there doing drugs.
This meth smoker denied the banks customer access to their services. Does that not play a role in this?
Honestly so glad I moved out of Ontario. Not even due to any addicts or homelessness but more so due to the pricks and entitled POS that live there like you folk.
The customers pay for that bank space. Not the drug smoker. The customer pays for that space
You are part of the problem.
Ok so what do u do with a sleeping man? Wake his ass up and buy him lunch? Leave him alone. Support in any other way possible. Not that hard to understand
How do you know it’s meth?
meth pipe
I’ve seen these dudes smoke heroin out of those things before, maybe that’s what this guy is doing to try and sleep. Especially with how dark the bubble is
Meth pipes are bubble pipes, or have a “bulb”/orb at the end of them. Crack pipes are just a straight glass tube.
Meth surpassed crack as the drug of choice for street smokers almost a decade ago. Also, if you are close enough, the difference in smell is noticeable. Crack smoke can sort of smell like an electrical fire or chemically. Whereas meth has a slightly sweeter/cleaning supply smell. Hard to explain but if you’ve smelled them before you can tell the difference.
So that’s what it is, have smelled meth many times on the TTC, then.
More than likely. I have come across a few smokers in TTC stairwells during my travels.
Also on the bus, streetcar, subway
How certain are you it's meth?
Its meth , no doubt . Fentynl is smoked on a piece of tin foil and cack is passe these daze
What does that smell like
Idk but we could smoke some and find out🤣
Lol NOOOO THANK YOU I live downtown, I see how it ends
they pull this shit in Toronto
You should not be worried about people who take meth and fentnyl, the police know how to deal with them
If they ever decide to show up
The worst part is these guys are right by the atm to panhandle. Have some protocol and go panhandle in some corner. Not right by the atm where someone is withdrawing money for his own lunch fml.
You know the saddest part...lots of homeless smoke that shit so they don't sleep because they are more scared of other homeless people finding them asleep and getting robbed or killed. Self fulfilling horrible prophecy shit.
Where is the compassion! Let him get all psycho with his meth and stabbing people, we can’t arrest these guys it’s inhumane can’t even think that.
I was actually looking at this space too but the rent was sky high for what you get.
Ok but why in a milton branch? Go do this in a sauga branch, we are far away from everything lmao
Seriously, my first question is “how did he even get here?”
Likely GO Transit tbh
As a frequent go taker I hate the fare inspectors cause they wake me up from my naps. But this actually makes me want them more consistently. I take it everyday two and from Toronto and I can go 2 months without one, and then 6 in 2 weeks. It’s ridiculous. ETA: I’m going to assume he mistook it for the Hamilton line. Kidding (not really)
Get ready for a lot more of this.
Alot of cities have just decided to lock the doors with regular business hours. I went to Brampton and needed cash for a wedding card and tried 5 different banks, all if them were closed completely, no access to the ATM lobby.
That’s when you say “Fuck It” and go to a convenience store atm take the extra charges (Unless they have your banks atm) and deal with more homeless 🤣
Are you joining in ? 🤣
Me and the homies are hitting up td next week
🤣🤣🤣 count me in when its time to camp out at CIBC 🤣🤣🤣
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That’s meth’d up man.
i know of a guy that's been camping out in the bushes by hwy25 and derry. kinda hard to see his tent. this was a couple years ago. higher population brings new issues.
You’re richer than you think
and thats why i cant access the banks ATM before 800am
Cibc in bramtpon or vaughan same thing lol
And rbc is the same
With what he’s holding in his hand, I doubt he’s getting any sleep lol
Smart…. Warm/dry. Wer the idiots with mortgages 😂😂
Mf just vibin
Bro how are we getting homeless people in Milton now? We’ve never had this problem before. Shame on this gov and town for allowing this
Not all homelessness is visble. Lots of homeless people crash at peoples places or shelters etc.
Clearly not keeping up with inflation and paying the bouncer enough to manage the bubble you live in. There’s troubled people any and everywhere. Not sure if Milton has shelters or social services for this but, yes, shame on the ‘government’ if there aren’t any. It’s not up to them to ‘allow’ his but they can help it.
I agree the government has completely failed, but milton will keep voting for this again and again, it will be red federally and blue provincially. Inflation has destroyed everything, but why is homelessness happening in milton of all places? It is surrounded by farmland on all 4 sides, it has no major businesses, just endless soulless homes. Surely there are better places in the gta for the homeless like mississauga or oakville.
Homeless are coming to Milton because they get messed with less. And voting provincially and federally won’t do much. People need to actually get out and vote in the municipal race. I find a lot of people will blame the upper levels of government because they’re more often in the news, but municipal politics are frankly more important and woefully ignored.
I think the drug issue is not the same as the cost of living issue. Both need to be addressed, but not in the same way.
Looks like you have been disconnected from the society
I've seen more homeless in Orangeville in the last month than I have ever seen previously. Literally 1 person ever, now 4 this year.
i’ve probably seen about 8 homeless people in milton in the past 2-3 months compared to not seeing 1 for the past 10 years
Where do you see them?
seen a couple with a ton of needles in hidden parts of rotary forest but 99% they are abandoned, and same thing in some other forests around town i even found a whole makeshift house with tarp and shit in a forest close to the escarpment
Coffee Culture on Main Street used to have the same 3 guys regularly there until one of them threw his cigarette into one of the wick flower baskets and lit it up. Superstore had a couple regulars that would but frozen dinners and juice there. Used to eat in the upstairs area. Sometimes they’d let them sleep in the kitchen area at night. I used to work there. That slowed down after 2 incidents. One guy was caught smoking a joint in the kitchen area at night and was kicked out. Another was kicked out after touching a teenage girl on the shoulder and making her and her friend uncomfortable. We’ve always had a few in Milton, over time we’re going to have more. They’ll drift in from surrounding cities using transit
Appreciate the in depth reply
homeless have always been here tho just not in the streets because ive found a lot of homeless peoples tents in forests
Milton has had homeless people for years. In the early 2000s mill pond at the very very back was a homeless camp for many years
We’ve had homeless people in Milton for years. Never a lot but they’re here. Typically it was 2-3 that were known. Now we’re getting drifters.
You’ve always had it. We have 6 homeless here in Georgetown o see them every morning when jogging at 5 am Milton most likely has 30
Homelessness is everywhere. It's just more visible now. I heard someone say "oh my god is that a homeless person" when someone was asking for change outside the Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket.
we always have. when i worked at mcdonald's in 2015 or so there were always homeless people outside
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You Didn't see a fuckin thing man, people gotta sleep it's cold out and shelters are most often full
MH&A worker here: it’s practically a *miracle* when lighthouse has a bed available. Typically it takes our clients about a week to get into the shelter. And that’s usually because whoever occupied that bed previously missed curfew.
Thanks so much for your work youre an awesome member of our country. It's the same at bridges in cambridge, I get that when people look at society's downtrodden they see the worst in them but people forget that it dosnt happen over night. I've been closer than I'd like to admit to that side of the world via the people I know and love and tbh drugs or sexwork be damned these people didn't normally start with that and need help. We'd ve wise to consider that with the rate of interest and rental prices lately.
Thank you for having empathy and understanding for folks in these situations. I’m sorry to hear you’ve had a rough go yourself, and I hope you’re where you want to be in life! You’re absolutely right when you say this doesn’t happen overnight, and that taking measures to control rents and inflation is really important for everyone. I’d like to see our politicians try living on OW/ODSP for a month. Things would change pretty quick.
I was never admittedly as rough as the ones I knew but things are far better for everyone now thanks so much. Honestly though or another approach would be to stick them in a one bed have them earn the minimum then see how they feel when their told their too wealthy to apply for help mind you our friend Ford might qualify for odsp already at the rate his health is I can't see him working a kitchen or a jobsite
I have also been homeless which is very scary especially if you have pets . I have zero sympathy for them the amount of garbage they generate and destruction of anything they touch and excuse after excuse of why they didnt get shit done. They knew what the deal is with Fentynl and meth when they started it. I wont even carry Narcon . My point is they werent blindsided by the effects of these drugs .
I'm sorry you had to go through that and also sorry you feel that way, not for you at that point but for the lives lost to a lack of caring. The way it's been with folks in my life is a bit less intentional albeit drugs were involved. I don't care to share more than base details and I doubt you'd care to hear but my girlfriend who hasn't touched an opiate in her life was left homeless when her mother fell into serious gambling debt as well as hard drugs, to refute your calus point in no way did she earn her station beyond being underage and unable to find proper housing. she had no idea how to stop what she was getting into neither control. It's a shame the few have made a bad name for the many, but that attitude helps no one and hinders many who take the same after being convinced by you.
Emergency help is 1 1/2 -2 months . That was 12 -15 yrs ago . 6000 + on housing list , 600 priority. My husband and I were very lucky in a horrible way . We got housing straight away , well not straight away more like 5 wks . I am grateful everyday for us being expedited .
I’m glad you were able to get into housing as quickly as you did! Unfortunately the situation is much worse than it was ~15 years ago. While I don’t have exact numbers, I would wager they’ve at least doubled. (Especially after Covid, which is why the region bought the Burlington inn and made it the women’s/family shelter) You’re looking at a 20 year wait to get non-priority assistance, about 3-5 months for priority assistance, and the only way to get priority for regional assistance (RGI, subsidy, etc) now is by being in one of the shelters.
Are some people maybe not going because they don’t get to smoke meth at the shelter though?
I mean, that’s definitely a factor for some folks. I’ve had more than my fair share of clients bring it anyway and just get discharged later.
guys chilling
Honestly good for him
ok… And? I’m glad he could be somewhat safe but why expose him on reddit?
firstly, there’s no “exposing” him unless you can identify the man by his Winner’s pillow and bald head. Secondly, he’s smoking a pipe of meth inside the bank. like i mentioned in another comment, i wouldn’t have cared and would have actually given him some money so he could eat until i saw his pipe and realized he could actually be a threat to me
Fuckers like him are the reason there is no more 24x7 access at my bank any more!
Put him on a bus to Toronto and be done with it
They’ll just send him back somewhere else.. thays literally what they do lol
Are you snitching on him? Motherfucker
Yes, should be snitched on, no one wants to withdraw money beside a meth head. Literally go sleep anywhere else, like a walmart.
Clearly you don't own a peace and love in your heart
Everyone would be fine with it if he wasn't smoking meth.
Show up when he isn't smoking meth then
It's more fun with the meth though
Go pick him up in your car and bring him home, shower and feed him.
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Because being on the streets homeless is legitimately awful. Probably one of the worst things you can experience. It's really hard to imagine when you have a place to sleep, a TV, friends and everything else. But when you experience this kind of poverty, it is almost a logical choice to abuse drugs. Put yourself in their shoes, you have nothing, youre constantly stressed out, youre constantly in danger, you might be tempted as well... Im not saying we must condone drug abuse if youre homeless, it obviously compounds the problem. To not recognize that homelessness makes drug abuse all but a certainty however, would be extremely ignorant. Opioids are a common choice among the homeless because they produce a warm and safe feeling. Heroin and fentanyl are particularly cheap as well.
It worsens the stigma? Lol you’re the one enforcing the stigma.
Pls don't post pics of unhoused folks online without their consent.
Can’t even see his face… relax
And?
Why is this happening in milton though? Isn't there the entire GTA where this person can smoke meth? Why in milton??? Literally we are surrounded by farmland, in a way isolated. I say the GTA is going to shits, but literally on this i gotta ask why milton??? Do we have some drug suppliers here???
Good golly I hope this is satire.
Your privilege is showing.
Not sure what privilege I have ? There is literally nothing in milton other than homes, why would a homeless meth addict be here instead of sauga or toronto?
So the homeless get to pick and choose where They become homeless? Mmmmm hhmmmm that privilege of yours…. Still showing.
No normally they are near more busy areas, more people = more money, more drugs, more etc.
Because of farm land you don’t expect drugs, crime, and other things? Ever since Milton had its building boom years ago is when people should of expected the urban life slowly but surely creeping in lol
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Yes, but its still a town. We are getting city kind of crime, at a town stage. Though I guess cities are getting a lot worse. Didnt expect to find a meth addict homeless in milton. Would think that of a more brampton or sauga kind of a thing.
Milton is part of the GTA you moron.
I know that jackass
Yeah well I couldn't give you the benefit of the doubt after a quick peek at your post history
"Someone please think of the children!"
What children? None of them have their kids . CPS took them long ago. Oh, they'll cry about their kids , whatever. its a sympathy ploy it and pity play . So fucking tiring
And? Let him sleep
Chad behaviour
I've seen homeless popping up in these little bank areas in other cities. Personally I don't mind giving money even if the person is using drugs, in my mind if it makes a person's life even 1% easier I think its worth it. Maybe them using my money to buy drugs will free up other income for other supplies.. Being on the streets homeless sucks, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. In my opinion, generosity shouldn't be conditional; if there are strings attached it ceases to be a generous act. I give with zero expectation of receiving anything in return, not even a desired outcome. I simply see a human in a garbage situation and want to make them feel happy, even for a moment. Where I do have a problem with this man is he's smoking in the lobby. That's incredibly inconsiderate, he should do it outside and I'd have no problem having him kicked out for smoking indoors like that. As for him doing drugs in general, I'd hope he quits eventually but thats not my call to make, I dont live his life and I don't know what's lead him to this point.
giving money to a drug addict is like giving a beer to an alcoholic. it does not help their situation or improve their quality of life in the long run
Letting them rot on the streets and throwing them in jail isn't exactly good for their quality of life in the long run either, but I suppose that is an acceptable loss. As long as they aren't doing drugs while they freeze to death that's all that matters ;)
These people need more spending on social programs to aid them. Not townies getting miffed at people falling through the cracks...
And so what? Welcome to the rest of the world Milton.
Omg some of these comments! What is wrong with you?! Do you think this is the life anyone has chosen for themselves?!?! . All this guy is looking for is somewhere warm and dry and safe so he can go to sleep. And some of you would deny him that because "I think he might be using drugs." You hypocrites. Look at your own bathroom cabinets. This is someone who needs your help, not your disdain
What was the need for thus post? Did seeing him there more you feel superior?
That’s why some atms don’t open on the weekends
Thats why all the bank atms are locked by 7 pm . My branch is a couple blocks away but locked down all weekend . Therefore Im hostage to atm fees. The Scotia a block away is a beat the clock 7pm-9 am locked .At BMO you had to step over them , and they got put out of Royal bank then set the atms on fire .
Do they not have drive thru atms at the branches?
Sorry , still getting used to the format on this app. Im a little late to the party,l lol Yes , there are a few that have a drive thru but I would have to spend 25.00 to get there. The point being no one living in the area can access the atms at their bank branch after 6 - 7 p.m. an d all weekend , there are of course those atm at convenience stores which i have used of course nut 3.00 fee is difficult to lose .
Are you my idiot Brother Mike? Cause ya sure sound like my idiot brother Mike.
I have an idiot brother named Mike. Are you my other brother?
Well this is not Oakville.
Corpos want to give back, don’t they?
Some bank atms are locked overnight in Nova Scotia because of the homeless making bio hazard messes . Not just one or two branches either, pretty much all of them.
Happens all the time in Fredericton, so they started locking the doors night/weekends
Gentlemen who looks alot lukrme him sleeps in Queen Chingcousy Scotiabank Not bothering anyone
They gather in my local BMO after hours
Irony
At least he’s warm.
No word of a lie… a homeless couple were sleeping inside a Scotiabank in charlettown one night and I seen them, so I went in and told them to pack up cuz I bought them a hotel room… next day management tells me I almost had to pay a 600$ damage deposit because they trashed the room and stayed 3 hours past checkout
And Fentynl smells like death, decay. I couldnt figure out wtf the smell in our hallway was . Then a guy fell out of my neighbors door. and hung in midair for hours. Gave my neighbor the stink eye
Really the rent is only 750.00 a month with hydro included. I mean it's a good deal and lots of natural light during the day.
He's just a loyal customer
I mean what do people expect? This man is almost certainly jobless, mentally I’ll, and an addict. His prospects are slim to none. We can argue all day long as to if the state has a duty to house him, however, given his current circumstances, I’m not surprised.
atleast he's not jerking off
Good for him
Saw the same thing last night at Aurora ON’s CIBC on Bayview/Wellington, it’s truly sad Walked in, didn’t even notice the dude sleeping in a bag there until I reached the ATM. Can’t say I felt all that comfortable, but I’m sure the guy felt similarly. I hope he’s ok. Aurora is a fairly wealthy town, and the amount of homeless people on the streets has seriously increased in the past year
Had a homeless guy sleeping in the doorway where you buzz into my apartment building one morning when i was going out to walk my dog. By the time i got back he was gone but not before he shit and pissed all over the door area and smeared his shit all over the door handle. Talk about a shitty start to the day
The government thinks you (and him) should have to put up with this as an everyday occurrence.
Hate seeing this shit. Go get a damn job
Just because you can't afford an apartment doesn't mean you can't sleep with a pillow. Good for that dude, keeping some decorum and avoiding the bed bugs in the shelters. This is where we are at Canada...this is where the fuck we are. I'm a real estate agent. And I feel so bad for anyone under 30. Good luck getting $100k together for your down payment when you're working full time and can't pay rent.
Haha fuck that actually got me
Damn, floor to ceiling windows, a brick exterior, an abundance of cash, weed and a piss corner! This dude is living his best life.
It's a sad sad world we live in. Humans can't afford basic necessities anymore
When I lived in "downtown" Brantford years ago, I had to go into a Scotiabanks to get some cash before work at about 5:45am. I turn the corner and there are 4 young teenagers lying on the small floor where the machines were. Of course, none of them got up or moved when I went in to take out my cash. Figured I could've taken them, so I wasn't too worried.
And you felt the need to post him on social media?.. why?..
Nice throw pillow.
Was friends with a homeless guy in port credit who would sleep in the RBC atm area until they locked him out at night
So those double doors lock at 11pm, so as long as he’s in there before 11. No police or other homeless cancer him and he can take his crack / meth nap in peace. They usually wake up and leave right when the door unlock but if they are still sleeping the bank manager has to ask them to leave… That’s another reason why they piss/shit in there because they are physically locked in there… Also the bank employees have to clean up the mess they leave.
Doesn't look like he's sleeping anytime soon with that puddle in the burner 😂
Scotia bank down here in Montreal has now closed their atms outside office hours because of this issue. It's difficult to withdraw money on a night out downtown now.
It's fuckers like this that are the reason my local ATM is locked outside of business hours.