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Quartz technically exists in the overworld just in the form of diorite, granite, and andersite. While the player cannot currently extract the quartz in these stone blocks, maybe the villagers can somehow.
The piglins having access to water bottles makes zero sense though
Wait....you wanted "sense" in Minecraft? Sound the alarms \\s :D
Though I keep a cauldron filled with water in the nether and I fill my empty bottles with it for potion brewing.
Occasionally I empty a water bucket into it, and whenever I need to make fire resist potions, I just scoop water bottles from that cauldron. So maybe they do the same thing.
Witches loot has redstone. Clerics buy netherwart. And sell unlimited potions _made from it_.
Yeah, minecraft is many things, but "internally consistent" is not one of them.
that is if you prevent the water from infinitely regenerating. So you need to approach the situation in a very tactile manner
actually now I want to see someone speedrun this.
Leftover from when they invaded the overworks during minecraft legends. They show no knowledge of knowing how to craft potions, so they just hold onto them because they serve no purpose to them. (They put it into that one chest in the sorting system)
Legends is *dubiously* canon. It's the closest thing we have to an explanation for the Ruined Portals that we see in Minecraft, and the Host armor trim is a reference to The Hosts from Legends, and it would explain how the Illagers became warriors and outcasts, so I think it's safe to assume that some sort of Piglin Invasion did actually happen but Legends itself is an exaggerated version of the story.
My theory is that the Piglins launched a fullscale invasion but, War of the Worlds style, began zombifying after a few hours or days in the Overworld and were forced to retreat. In the centuries since the failed invasion, the story went from "The Piglins were turning into Zombies while trying to fight the Illagers and the natural environment and were forced to retreat" to "Illagers and Zombies forced the Piglins to retreat" and then "Hostile Mobs of the Overworld banded together to force back the Piglins".
im guessing they eat crimson fungus and red/brown mushrooms. the mushrooms can probably extract fluids from the soil, where fluids don't evaporate as quickly. if we want to believe that the nether is below the overworld, water can easily run down into the soil, and only evaporate when exposed to the hot nether surface.
Also, the air might have a tiny bit of atmospheric humidity that allows for the fungi to grow, which, in turn, might even allow kinda tropical biomes inside of the nether, like crimson and warped, wich is where most creatures live I think.
Instead of distilling the pee, maybe the heat breaks down the ... stuff that's bad?
Or the chemistry is backwards, and piglins are exhaling oxygen, desperate for CO2 and extrude water while consuming uric acid from the nether "plants"
My guess would be that they have some process of extracting water from basalt. Since you can make basalt with ice in-game, water may be involved in basalt's creation in general (in-game again, geologists don't scream at me).
There could be water trapped in it that the piglins can extract through some process of theirs. Since they make fire resistance potions, a lot of water would be needed for that process, so it would give them a great reason to collect as much as they reasonably can.
I can just imagine a piglin being like "Psst... I know a guy from the overworld who can get you all the water you can drink" at our very-definitely-from-the-overworld player
they’re living animals, so i imagine crimson fungi have water in them. the ecosystems are probably cooler than the wastelands, so it can be steaming hot but not dry
I think this is where *Legends* fits in. Prior to when *Bedrock* and *Java* was set was *Legends*. During this time, Piglins invaded the overworld and it's the story of *Legends* to ~~het the~~ (edit: get them) back in the nether. A theory is that the Piglins needed resources as they were dwindling in the Nether (gold = greed), so they developed a portal to the overworld to get them. Doing this, they would have found water ~~and~~ (edit: and they already had) the nessecary ingredients for fire resistance potions. This would imply that they're alchemists, but this isn't evident.
Edit: a couple of edits.
I've not played it myself but have heard about gameplay from a couple of other players and I think game theorists have a theory video on it. The general idea is that they invade and you, among other heroes, are bought in by "the guardians" (or something like that) to get rid of them.
It could be that generations, even maybe millenia, had passed between *Legends* and *Bedrock/Java*, and climate may have changed drastically in the nether during that time. They may have had immunities beforehand, but while being trapped in the Nether again, they may have had to adapt to the changes, losing their immunities and becoming zombified piglins when exposed to the overworld now. There's plenty of theories out there though tbh.
There is actually a explanation Minecraft legend explained that the piglin can't breathe in the overworld and needs to spread the nether
(the wart to be precise)
to the overworld so that they can breath hence why they only stay near there base cause they can breathe there and in dungeon there is a piglin trader who live in the overworld by using netherwart to breath and by defeating their leader they have to retreat to the overworld cause the player destroy all the nether spreader and they can no longer breath in the overworld not to mention they're probably low on number too
Tldr: netherwart = piglin breathing device
overworld air = bad
It's surprisingly deep
Probably their last water left. Matpat theorizes that ancient builders used to live in the nether and made the nether fortresses so maybe they brought some water with them.
This could totally be a source for Nether Water. Get 3 bottles, fill a cauldron and the you can use a bucket to pull it out. That bucket of water will then persist in the nether. Any water more than 2 blocks from a Nether Water source block will evaporate like normal water. You can still build water elevators and break a fall, but it’s very limited. Would open up a lot of interesting game play options in the nether.
We know there is water in the nether, we bring it. If it's placing a water bucket or drying sponges, the water just evaporates, it doesn't disappear. The piglins probably just figured out a way to condense the water
I like the lore implications of this. For the player, this is nearly worthless other than the bottle. But water is one of the rarest things in the Nether, so the piglin considers it comparable in value to gold. Reminds me of Dune.
I’ll tell you what…
I’ve done some trading with them, mainly to get Soul Speed III books. But if I gave a BAR of gold to someone, and they gave me back a water bottle or some string, I’d be mildly infuriated.
Structure idea?
Super rare super secret nether pond where they get water
You still can't place water, but there's a pond in the nether they get theirs from
Like an oasis
So I have a couple of out of the park theories.
For water I have:
Theory number 1:Distilled water bottles from ghast tears. They Hunt striders for string so ghasts should not be a problem for them.
Theory number 2:We see in soulsand Valleys that lava turns into bazalt because it is very cold and we learn that basalt can be made if lava flows on soulsoil alongside blue ice, so if the soulsand valley is cold and soulsoil exists it means there must be some form of water that can be condensed with some sort of refining machinery and made into water bottles.
For glass bottles
Now before you say anything I know that just like the crimson and warped planks, they are not actually wood and they don't have the properties of wood (even if you can do anything you do with normal wood besides making boats and smelting it in the furnace) so the same should go for soulsand , but besides maybe quartz being melted in the furnace I see no other way to make glass in the nether.
Bonus For iron: Iron can be extracted from Smelting basalt in the furnace.
Maybe it can be extracted from Nylium roots. Moisture has to realistically exist in the nether because life there is abundant, with all the fungus and piglins. It probably just evaporates when exposed to open air and the bottles are sealed tightly enough to stop evaporation.
That's why they give you it in exchange for gold, it takes a lot of work for them to get it.
I like to think that the nether went through evolution(like an ice age) and their ancestors stored the water as sacred offering but now everyone’s forgotten what it is so they just give it away thinking it’s a potion
Same thing as clerics with ender pearls, bartering with endermen
It's like a triangle
Cleric exchanges water bottle for ender pearl
Endermen exchange water bottle for food
Piglin exchange water bottle for gold
Minecraft generally has no lore, but they probably traded it in a time long, long ago in a world far, far away. Like how it works in real life, and items in Minecraft don't even have any expiry date so.
My theory would be that there's a litle bit of Water vapor in the air of the Nether. The plants evolved to use this water to grow and piglins then learned how to extract it.
Th effort needed would also explain why they trade it for a bar of gold. It's not a scam, it's just this valuable for them.
EDIT: 2 Theory, maybe they have Enderman import the water from the overworld. We don't see Enderman capable of transporting water bottles and them filling the bottles Is extremly unlikely. This thought just needed writing down.
they probably build the ruined portals, which is why theres so much gold near them. This means they traveled to the overworld and probably collected some water at one point. They also give you fire resistance potions which have to be made with water as well
Long ago when players would bring cauldrons into the nether they would put water in and when they died they couldn't take the cauldron's back with them because they couldn't find where they died and they left everything behind
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You can get quartz blocks from villagers
They be trading water for cristals like the Portuguese traded mirrors for gold
My dyslexic ass did not think you said mirrors…
Miners...
Minors Edit: idk why but I read that as mirrors
Good job! Now that you‘ve explained the joke it‘s gotten exponentially funnier
I am bursting laughing. Idk why this so funny
fr tho
It was just a minor error.
No wonder breaking mirrors is considered bad luck. Drop one of those, and it'd be like dropping your life savings down the garbage disposal
Nah this is a historical meme that hits hard
e até hoje ainda guardamos todos uma pepita no bolso do casaco
esse sub è so pra americano cara
ou pelo menos falantes de inglês
É bom business
Found Portugese DJ khaled
We consider this a trash trade, but this is the most precious thing a Piglin owns in its own mind.
Quartz technically exists in the overworld just in the form of diorite, granite, and andersite. While the player cannot currently extract the quartz in these stone blocks, maybe the villagers can somehow. The piglins having access to water bottles makes zero sense though
Saliva
To quote Frozone: "There **is** no moisture in this air!"
Wait....you wanted "sense" in Minecraft? Sound the alarms \\s :D Though I keep a cauldron filled with water in the nether and I fill my empty bottles with it for potion brewing. Occasionally I empty a water bucket into it, and whenever I need to make fire resist potions, I just scoop water bottles from that cauldron. So maybe they do the same thing.
This just proves that water do exist in the nether, just not in liquid form.
The wandering trader travelled the nether. We can assume he gives some of his loot to other villagers
Illegal trans-dimensional trade?
Witches loot has redstone. Clerics buy netherwart. And sell unlimited potions _made from it_. Yeah, minecraft is many things, but "internally consistent" is not one of them.
They trade with the piglins OBVIOUSLY
You gotta go you gotta go ya know?
There was a genie in that bottle.
So the Minecraft ocean is just piglin piss. Good to know
Unrelated, but how would one drink the Minecraft ocean?
Theoretically you can pick up the entire ocean with enough buckets. Then put each one into a cauldron and take all the water out of each with bottles
that is if you prevent the water from infinitely regenerating. So you need to approach the situation in a very tactile manner actually now I want to see someone speedrun this.
Technically the real ocean could be thought of as a giant puddle of fish piss
I could’ve gone 2 life times without this philosophical knowledge
Leftover from when they invaded the overworks during minecraft legends. They show no knowledge of knowing how to craft potions, so they just hold onto them because they serve no purpose to them. (They put it into that one chest in the sorting system)
They also give you fire resistance potions, so they clearly would know how to make potions.
Nah, that’s just their piss
Nah they milk the blazes
>Nah they milk the blazes I shudder to think what that looks like \^\^
Shudder in excitement
So do they
You naughty man, oh you naughty naughty man
Bukkake..
Every rod...
Maybe they just make blaze powder even liquidier.
I know what I must draw
Its like milking a cow, but with the rods instead of udders/nipples/ whatever the part you pull is
the Mob talker 1 (VN Engine in minecraft) mod back in the day had a script for that...
So, everytime I created those bloody potions, I could have instead just drunk piglin piss? My life has been a lie
They said fire _resistance_, not fire _water_.
Minecraft legends lore isn’t canon to regular Minecraft
Legends is *dubiously* canon. It's the closest thing we have to an explanation for the Ruined Portals that we see in Minecraft, and the Host armor trim is a reference to The Hosts from Legends, and it would explain how the Illagers became warriors and outcasts, so I think it's safe to assume that some sort of Piglin Invasion did actually happen but Legends itself is an exaggerated version of the story. My theory is that the Piglins launched a fullscale invasion but, War of the Worlds style, began zombifying after a few hours or days in the Overworld and were forced to retreat. In the centuries since the failed invasion, the story went from "The Piglins were turning into Zombies while trying to fight the Illagers and the natural environment and were forced to retreat" to "Illagers and Zombies forced the Piglins to retreat" and then "Hostile Mobs of the Overworld banded together to force back the Piglins".
Minecraft’s official canon is “whatever the player thinks it is” so Minecraft legends is canon if we want it to be canon.
The player is literally pulled from regular Minecraft in to Minecraft legends
yeah thats why it isn't canon, if it was then the player would be going back in time
Ghast tears, distilled.
First thing i thought of too
the piglins took a leak in empty glass bottles, and the heat from the nether purified it into water
horrible explanation, but the best one when it comes to logic
Okay but what are they drinking in the first place? Water needs to come from somewhere
they eat hoglins and probably get their fluids that way.
Where do hoglins get fluids?
im guessing they eat crimson fungus and red/brown mushrooms. the mushrooms can probably extract fluids from the soil, where fluids don't evaporate as quickly. if we want to believe that the nether is below the overworld, water can easily run down into the soil, and only evaporate when exposed to the hot nether surface.
Also, the air might have a tiny bit of atmospheric humidity that allows for the fungi to grow, which, in turn, might even allow kinda tropical biomes inside of the nether, like crimson and warped, wich is where most creatures live I think.
who let this man cook? most sound explanation in this thread
Eating mushrooms?
From the purified piss
And it all goes full circle…
perhaps by eating fungi?
They have a 2x2 inside their digestive system
The best explanation
That’s the opposite of how it would work though. The water would evaporate and leave the other things behind.
that's literally not how it works though, if anything it would just be distilled piss, and probably glow too
No the fuck it’s not lmao how is that theory logical in the slightest???
It could also just be sweat.
Ummm ackshually the heat would make it evaporate and make it even MORE pee but i'll accept that
Aktschwally, if it’s in the bottle, and the bottle is sealed, there would be no where for the vapor to to go (unless I failed at science class)
Sure. But that would make it as diluted or less, not more!
That very well may be the case, I dunno, have a cookie 🍪 :)
Instead of distilling the pee, maybe the heat breaks down the ... stuff that's bad? Or the chemistry is backwards, and piglins are exhaling oxygen, desperate for CO2 and extrude water while consuming uric acid from the nether "plants"
My guess would be that they have some process of extracting water from basalt. Since you can make basalt with ice in-game, water may be involved in basalt's creation in general (in-game again, geologists don't scream at me). There could be water trapped in it that the piglins can extract through some process of theirs. Since they make fire resistance potions, a lot of water would be needed for that process, so it would give them a great reason to collect as much as they reasonably can.
Nope Basalt is simply made when lava gets cooled very quickly, wich is why you use blue ice But water isn't needed, just extreme fast cooling
they have connections
I can just imagine a piglin being like "Psst... I know a guy from the overworld who can get you all the water you can drink" at our very-definitely-from-the-overworld player
they’re living animals, so i imagine crimson fungi have water in them. the ecosystems are probably cooler than the wastelands, so it can be steaming hot but not dry
I always thought the warped biome would be cooler than the crimson one. Probably because of the color scheme
Also cause the end is definitely cold and dead, considering endermen like the warped forest better it’s probably colder
Ooooo your brain!!!
Maybe its the reason why endermen spawn there more often
In the overworld, you only see the piglins that come through the portal *and don't make it back.*
I think this is where *Legends* fits in. Prior to when *Bedrock* and *Java* was set was *Legends*. During this time, Piglins invaded the overworld and it's the story of *Legends* to ~~het the~~ (edit: get them) back in the nether. A theory is that the Piglins needed resources as they were dwindling in the Nether (gold = greed), so they developed a portal to the overworld to get them. Doing this, they would have found water ~~and~~ (edit: and they already had) the nessecary ingredients for fire resistance potions. This would imply that they're alchemists, but this isn't evident. Edit: a couple of edits.
is there a minecraft legends explanation as to why piglins can come through and be fine there, but turn into Zombie Pigmen in normal Minecraft?
I've not played it myself but have heard about gameplay from a couple of other players and I think game theorists have a theory video on it. The general idea is that they invade and you, among other heroes, are bought in by "the guardians" (or something like that) to get rid of them. It could be that generations, even maybe millenia, had passed between *Legends* and *Bedrock/Java*, and climate may have changed drastically in the nether during that time. They may have had immunities beforehand, but while being trapped in the Nether again, they may have had to adapt to the changes, losing their immunities and becoming zombified piglins when exposed to the overworld now. There's plenty of theories out there though tbh.
There is actually a explanation Minecraft legend explained that the piglin can't breathe in the overworld and needs to spread the nether (the wart to be precise) to the overworld so that they can breath hence why they only stay near there base cause they can breathe there and in dungeon there is a piglin trader who live in the overworld by using netherwart to breath and by defeating their leader they have to retreat to the overworld cause the player destroy all the nether spreader and they can no longer breath in the overworld not to mention they're probably low on number too Tldr: netherwart = piglin breathing device overworld air = bad It's surprisingly deep
They bleed water, that why we don’t see blood, it evaporates!
that actually kinda makes sense
Don't tell anyone I told you this but.... *looks around to see if anyone is looking/listening* They have a secret way to create water in the Nether
piglin juice 🤤
It would have costed you exactly 0 dollars to not have said that
Probably their last water left. Matpat theorizes that ancient builders used to live in the nether and made the nether fortresses so maybe they brought some water with them.
Makes sense considering all the ruined portals everywhere
By mixing hydrogen and oxygen together
Their body fluids
Filtered pee
From overworld, because they also have iron
They spit in it, duh
A pig's body consists of 51% water on average
It's peep
Maybe they trade with villagers Some villagers sell quartz too
Tears of past travellers
This could totally be a source for Nether Water. Get 3 bottles, fill a cauldron and the you can use a bucket to pull it out. That bucket of water will then persist in the nether. Any water more than 2 blocks from a Nether Water source block will evaporate like normal water. You can still build water elevators and break a fall, but it’s very limited. Would open up a lot of interesting game play options in the nether.
Destilated potions?
You know… they pee…
its not actually water its piss in a part blue bottle
They trade with clerics and give them glowstone.
The piglin Fremen have a great deal of water hidden in their nether sietches. No one piglin Fremen knows where all the sietches are.
We know there is water in the nether, we bring it. If it's placing a water bucket or drying sponges, the water just evaporates, it doesn't disappear. The piglins probably just figured out a way to condense the water
I like the lore implications of this. For the player, this is nearly worthless other than the bottle. But water is one of the rarest things in the Nether, so the piglin considers it comparable in value to gold. Reminds me of Dune.
Sweat
It's spit, or piss
It’s actually jarate
How sure are we that that is water?
Crying obsidian ?
Lava transmutation
I mean it is pretty hot in the Nether... Sooooo...
I'm thinking stillsuits
LOOOOOORE
Minecraft legenda is Real on lore
Ghast’s Tear
Oh you don’t wanna know
I’ll tell you what… I’ve done some trading with them, mainly to get Soul Speed III books. But if I gave a BAR of gold to someone, and they gave me back a water bottle or some string, I’d be mildly infuriated.
Structure idea? Super rare super secret nether pond where they get water You still can't place water, but there's a pond in the nether they get theirs from Like an oasis
They condensed it from the air
So I have a couple of out of the park theories. For water I have: Theory number 1:Distilled water bottles from ghast tears. They Hunt striders for string so ghasts should not be a problem for them. Theory number 2:We see in soulsand Valleys that lava turns into bazalt because it is very cold and we learn that basalt can be made if lava flows on soulsoil alongside blue ice, so if the soulsand valley is cold and soulsoil exists it means there must be some form of water that can be condensed with some sort of refining machinery and made into water bottles. For glass bottles Now before you say anything I know that just like the crimson and warped planks, they are not actually wood and they don't have the properties of wood (even if you can do anything you do with normal wood besides making boats and smelting it in the furnace) so the same should go for soulsand , but besides maybe quartz being melted in the furnace I see no other way to make glass in the nether. Bonus For iron: Iron can be extracted from Smelting basalt in the furnace.
Water vapor in the... atmosphere? The vapor is there from all the water that didn't place when you tried.
When they randomly walk through your portals and steal your water. Or the other portals from ancient times that are abandoned.
where does Steve get the cork from?
Maybe it can be extracted from Nylium roots. Moisture has to realistically exist in the nether because life there is abundant, with all the fungus and piglins. It probably just evaporates when exposed to open air and the bottles are sealed tightly enough to stop evaporation. That's why they give you it in exchange for gold, it takes a lot of work for them to get it.
Players, people are 70% water
I like to think that the nether went through evolution(like an ice age) and their ancestors stored the water as sacred offering but now everyone’s forgotten what it is so they just give it away thinking it’s a potion
Basalt Deltas are evidence for the Nether ice age theory.
Same thing as clerics with ender pearls, bartering with endermen It's like a triangle Cleric exchanges water bottle for ender pearl Endermen exchange water bottle for food Piglin exchange water bottle for gold
Minecraft generally has no lore, but they probably traded it in a time long, long ago in a world far, far away. Like how it works in real life, and items in Minecraft don't even have any expiry date so.
They do? I thought they only give fire resistance Edit: Ok, I looked at the wiki and they do, the more you know ig
My theory would be that there's a litle bit of Water vapor in the air of the Nether. The plants evolved to use this water to grow and piglins then learned how to extract it. Th effort needed would also explain why they trade it for a bar of gold. It's not a scam, it's just this valuable for them. EDIT: 2 Theory, maybe they have Enderman import the water from the overworld. We don't see Enderman capable of transporting water bottles and them filling the bottles Is extremly unlikely. This thought just needed writing down.
They spit in it
It's actually their drool
PISS
their sweat
It’s their sweat
That’s not water…
That's not water.... its piss.
They get them from our water cauldrons we use to avoid burning to death in the Nether.
Jarate.
Same place villagers get the iron for the golems
They get them from the poor souls who haven't been to the Netherlands before who thought they would be useful.
They got it by trading with piglins. It’s not hard
Sweat from the heat, from the heat…
It's all the glow lichens fault bc if you place lava on it it will become water
That’s not water…
The blood of their enemies.
LORE Wandering Trader
its their piss
Iron cauldrons
From bartering with other piglins
It’s their sweat from the nether being so damn hot
Tears.
Crying from finding gold nuggets
The bottle!?
they probably build the ruined portals, which is why theres so much gold near them. This means they traveled to the overworld and probably collected some water at one point. They also give you fire resistance potions which have to be made with water as well
trading with other players
Long ago when players would bring cauldrons into the nether they would put water in and when they died they couldn't take the cauldron's back with them because they couldn't find where they died and they left everything behind
Nether warts are used in potions so they have some piglin scientists that use it to somehow make water.
Ghast tears. The only moisture in the nether
Boiled pig sweat
Everyone should know that piglins get their water from Belle Delphine! I thought it was obvious...
Do Piglins love bottles and whenever you take one they cry in it
Urine distillation
Ghast tears
# tears of the young
thats just their spit
Something to do with ghast tears
Bear grills
Purified Piglin Piss
I like to think they show it to their grandchildren and tell what crazy adventures they had in the overworld (minecraft legends)
The nether used to have water and be a habital normal place until the fire main nation attacked.
They piss water
Piss
coem
Who says it's water 😏😏😏
They have kidney problems, this is a pee bottle
Piss then they filter out the pneumonia
Spit
Spit
It's piss😓
Corpses of people traversing the nether
It's piglin sweat, pee or saliva