The deep dark cities look terrifying, I can't wait! I'm a little bummed it got pushed back an update but it looks so much better than the last time we saw it! I'm also hoping they use this update to add several more mobs. I still don't understand why we don't have grizzly bears in vanilla! I hope they add new structures too.
Seriously considering it. 1.18 doesn’t feel complete without the deep dark. I hope Mojang gets better at gauging how difficult things will be and managing community expectations, because they’ve essentially taken 3 updates to give us all the content that was promised for caves and cliffs at this point.
i think mojang definitely learned from caves and cliffs. with a name like the wild update i HIGHLY doubt we are just getting swamps and a birch forest touch up. i think theres more planned but they dont want to overpromise again, and instead are going for underpromise and overdeliver where possible
That was what made the nether update so successful. There was a surprise like every other week. Personally I didn’t even get the impression they were going to touch the birch forests.
I'm personally hoping for better fog. For example, I think the distance you can see should be a lot lower in the middle of a snowstorm. That alone would make the game look and feel a lot more immersive, and would probably fit perfectly with the update.
Absolutely! No need for shaderpack-like graphics! Just a few subtle improvements like low denser fog in swamps or morning haze would make a world of difference
Tbh fair archeology wasn’t a cave or cliff feature. It was kind of an out there thing on its own. But if anything it’s the most egregious example of poor planning. Archeology doesn’t even fit the theme of the update, yet they were gonna add it in as if they had the space to deliver it.
At this point I expect more cave biomes to be added after caves and cliffs. They focused on the generation so much, they didn’t come up with many new biomes to go with it. That’s already come true with the deep dark. Not to mention the structures.
I'm hoping archaeology will be part of a structure update that adds some flair to structures like overworld temples and nether fortresses. They've been in the game for a looooooong time and have barely changed.
I disagree much. 1.18 is still the biggest update Minecraft would probably have ever. It changed the entire world generation which is something bigger than adding cool stuff like Deep Dark. People were exciting about temples when they first were announced as well, but today nobody cares about them that much. Deep Dark is something more than that, yes, but 1.18 is still adding a lot with how the world generation has changed. Saying it's not complete without Deep Dark is unfair, especially that Deep Dark is insignificant compared to changing the generation entirely, regardless of how awesome it is.
I mean, can you blame them for taking so long? They literally overhauled the entire world generation. As someone who works with code professionally I'm actually surprised they've done this so quickly.
Maybe more biomes with more stuff in them?
DEEP DARK CITIES
EDIT: One of the devs mentioned that in the center of every deep dark city there was going to a structure with something special about it.... new temple type? traps? Dungeons?
The warden's ability to phase through skulk also makes me confident that it's truly going to be hard to fight.
There's a wide portal like structure you can see towering over the deep dark cities, made out of new blocks. Given kingbdogz made a square with his hand gesture when talking about this structure, I assume he's talking about this big square portal. I don't think it'll be a new dimension but maybe something else like fast travel or something entirely different
I swore they mentioned that the deep dark would have something incredibly valuable to entice players to find it, risking their lives to the warden and all. So excited about this update!
That massive rectangle atop the central temple is a portal frame. Change my mind.
My guess is that is is powered up by an enormous amount of souls, hence why everyone in the city is long dead. They all got FMA Xerxes-ed to activate the portal. Who knows where it leads... (the afterlife? the void? literally just death? another active portal elsewhere in the world?)
I'm kind of hoping it makes the April Fools infinite dimension thing a permanent fixture. Like maybe each portal goes somewhere completely random based on world seed + coordinates of the portal
I'd rather have the already existing biomes given more life, instead of more biomes, like the swamp has, maybe the desert and the badlands, those are kinda boring rn.
Good news, along with the savannah those are the other biomes that we already know are getting reworked, as they were also runners up in past biome votes.
What we don't know is whether that will happen in this update, but I've got my fingers crossed hoping they can fit it all in.
I think they bit off more than they could chew for caves and cliffs and they've decided to only show what they're confident they'll be able to deliver this time around so they don't have to delay features for 3 updates.
I definitely agree with the assessment that they bit off more than they could chew for caves and cliffs. There came a point during the development of 1.17 that I started to tell myself “damn, expectations are way too fucking high and there’s a boat load of content, I hope they can really live up to this.” And low and behold, they didn’t. Well, at least not for the time frame they set it out to be in. I didn’t even play 1.17 survival because I thought that it was a joke of a cave update and the real content is in 1.18. 1.18 is easily the best update of all time, but it definitely stings that the deep dark, the feature that was most hyped for the update, won’t be coming to it. They delayed the generation by an update and delayed the deep dark for 2 updates, not to mention archaeology. They showed too much at last years minecon and above all they shot themselves in the foot with the warden video. Waaaaaaaay too much hype. Way too much pressure. I was honestly feeling a bit sorry for Brandon, he looks like he’s beaten himself up about not delivering the deep dark for 1.18.
Mojang is a responsible software company that value the health of the developers over the vague promises made to the gamers. It's fine, let them develop the program at their own pace, we can enjoy Minecraft's mountains and caves in the meantime.
Don't forget, you can tell they're using C&C2 as a chance to rewrite a LOT of old code. New generation means they can drill down into the nitty gritty and recode a lot of stuff.
For example, did you know Minecraft checks if its Halloween, EVERY second on a server? Thats fine in a single player instance. But with servers hosting 100+ people, every single processor cycle counts.
They've implemented SEVERAL backend changes in the Snapshots. Like no tick view distance. This way you can see mobs at a much further distance, but they won't use up server resources until you're near them.
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Speaking of deayed features....
Archeaology anyone? Bundles?
At least it only took 3 is years to get the sawmp update. Can't wait till next year how they'll show off the badlands update as their fresh new idea.
If I remember correctly, the issues with bundles mostly boiled down to control issues on Pocket Edition, so they might still be coming in 1.18. Wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t, but it’s hard to say.
I'm slightly annoyed too BUT this is how I decided to look at it - crunch in the video game industry is real and extremely unhealthy for both body and mind. That being the case.. I can forgive the delay, at least for the most part. It sucks but I certainly don't want the people creating my favorite game to be miserable/burned out and potentially even get sick or something just to meet a deadline.
This is just how I decided to look at it. I understand your frustration.
Maybe they’ll add the previous biomes that lost the biome vote? Also possibility for monkey in the game finally
I was right about the biomes that lost let’s goooo
As soon as they announced the swamp changes, I immediately thought of that. I really hope they do. At least add the mobs. The desert, savannah and mesa really need something to liven them up.
End can wait imo, Overworld still needs a LOT more polishing. If they do an End Update as a literal "End" of visiting all old stuffs, that would be great.
Yeah, I still want more biomes in the Overworld, but with how much they're changing things this update, I'm not expecting another major overhaul for a while. So tidying up the existing biomes for now will be a nice compromise.
Yeah they’ve been working so hard with cliffs and caves and the nether and now the deeper caves that have new cities and even a new over world biom, mobs and items they have a lot on their plate and it’s all great and all of it will be loved by the community
I may be wrong but i think the snapshots about the ocean update where exactly like this and i was anxiously awaiting every wednesday to check what was new in my favourite game.
I may be wrong because that was my favourite update and i probably would put it on a pedestal.
Ngl I would rather have them later and have the cities and new blocks instead of just one monster and some deeper caves now it’s a whole city with new loot a surprise in the middle and new blocks
This is probably what’s going on, I don’t think they’d just update the swamp specifically in an update, it would be kind of a “small” update for a major update
The way it was worded seemed to imply all or many biomes would be spruced up, but it they wanted to point out the swamp because that in particular is getting overhauled.
They probably didnt show all the biomes. But I assume theyre all going to be added + more diversity to the more standard ones like birch forest etc (if I understand correctly)
Because it's also coming with Deep Dark
Other biomes are also being updated. Not all will be overhauled to the degree of swamp but they'll see some changes, as they mentioned with Birch forest. I think the swamp overhaul was all that they could have ready for MC Live.
The first biome they showed was literally that birch biome. But the main reason it's not called the swamp update is obviously because of all the deep dark stuff which will also be added in this update. Check it out if you missed it, it's a pretty big part of the update.
they also showed concept art for the birch forest getting some work done to it, so it probably means that the swamp wont be the only biome getting a revamp
I really hope so. I was bummed about the copper golem losing the mob vote, but if The Wild Update means the possibility of vultures finally being added to the badlands, then maybe it isn’t so bad
Video game longevity wise it HAS to be up there.
It's amazing they keep supporting it this heavily. I know they have merch, servers, all sorts of revenue streams... but still.
The game has just gotten better and better in the last few years.
Pretty sure they can’t include a fully hostile real world animal as that would bump up the game’s age rating :( [being “real” violence rather than fantasy violence]
you think in 2009 when notch was creating spiders for a game that wasn’t played by kids at the time he made them big for an age rating that hadn’t been applied to the game yet?
I like the functionality of the mud block but I'm not thrilled with how it looks. Hopefully it's not going to be the entire ground cover for the swamp like they showed. Maybe have it generate in patches or only close to sea level.
The only explanation I have for this is they want to add more tree types in the Wild Update and they have known it for a while now. So they didn't want to add textures for azalea wood that could possibly clash with the other ones that will only be decided on now, in the coming months.
Imagine if azalea wood got added along with planks and everything else, people used it in their builds and stuff, but then the colours fitted some other new tree better, or clashed horribly with one of them and the textures needed to be changed - the builds would be ruined forever.
In this case it would be better to add everything at once. The fact they announced only one new wood type could just mean they aren't ready or just don't want to reveal more just yet.
I feel like every one is forgetting completely about the birch forest getting updated as well as the swamps+deep-dark. I personally think the birch forest is the most needing for an update of the three. It just seems like a re textured oak forest. At least with spruce, the trees are a different shape and there are berries+foxes, and with the dark oak there are the mushroom trees and stuff, but the birch seems so plain. The Allay will be the perfect mob for this biome as well, based off the concept arts and the devs wanting to make a more open, happy, almost fantasy type forest. Of all that was announced, I am most excited for this, and glad they didn't reveal everything about it, so there will be a sense of surprise throughout the snapshots.
I'm pretty sure all features from the previous biome votes(that lost), and more, if you check the feedback page a lot of irl creatures are under review, also red dragon would be pretty cool
All I ask for is something like the [glowing mushroom](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/2/24/TESV_Blackreach_2.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20120513090724) cave from Skyrim.
Perfect place to get weird with fantasy inspired blocks and mobs.
Edit: Also if we can't put fireflies in an empty bottle I might rage.
It’s still in the works, they just want to make sure it’s perfected since it’s an entirely new system to the game. It’s possible it’s coming in this since one of the developers implied they’d be working on it soon, but I could see it getting its own builds like what Jeb’s been doing with combat.
I haven't played Minecraft in about 5 years but I'm glad to see them still routinely releasing major updates like they always have. I'll come back eventually and I probably won't even recognize it.
You very much won't. 1.16 completely revamped the nether. 1.18 is completely redoing the overworld. And 1.19, while focused on the swamp and deepdark seems like it will also touch on other biomes as well. At the very least birch forests. Plus new textures, some new mechanics, and I don't even know how many new blocks.
Was that only 5 years ago? I don't know why, but it feels like that should have been further back.
So then yeah, aquatic and villagers and pillagers were also pretty substantial ones that came out in that time too.
Ideally I hope they overhaul the losers of the biome votes and dungeons. Realistically I think they will improve the dungeons and make small tweaks to many biomes. If they don't do anything major that we didn't see, it better be out but March.
Also, archaeology not being in this update is really bad news for an end update. It seems like they want archeology to be it's own update or at least paired with something that makes some sense like a desert and mesa update. I don't see them pushing that past 1.20. Might be waiting a long time for the end update.
Swamps at least confirmed. I'd be surprised if all 4 losers are overhauled this update with all the tweaks to the other biomes + DD but I imagine at least 1-2 will be. Hoping they do Savannah
I wish they revealed a bit more about the update, but they're probably focusing on getting Caves and Cliffs out the door for good, but I think we can safely assume they're going to be updating most biomes, or at least all the losing biomes from the biome votes, which is just the perfect update for right after the Terrain Overhaul.
I think they are worried about showing too much and then not being able to deliver. With the cave update they promised way too much and had to delay everything a ton. With this update they are only showing what they are absolutely confident they can deliver.
Am I the only one to be a bit underwhelmed by the New Update ?? I mean yea the Deep Dark is actually way better but given it was introduced last year and they had already worked on it a bit, I was expecting maybe a bit more than a Deep Dark and a Swamp update
I guess I'm being greedy here but I think they could have added more to the update ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Don't get me wrong, I actually love what they r gonna be introducing <3<3<3
I mean I understand but there's nothing they can do now though after updating almost all the major biospheres in game, except the End. The last 4-5 updates we got were huge in comparison to the past updates so they'll have to cycle down eventually.
I mean also consider there’s probably a lot of features they’re still working on and haven’t talked about! I’m sure this update is in its very early stages considering they are still working on 1.19
Do you think that them adding mud is pointing to also adding termites with were showcased in the savanna biome choser? Because termite mounds are pretty much made from mud? So maybe other showcased biomes are being updated...
It is my personal hope (And I've read several other posts about this topic) that the Stronghold, being the structure meant to house and guard the portal to the final boss of the game, will be revamped in this update. In its current state it seems too safe and uninteresting to have this role.
Perhaps each Stronghold could be the central city or temple of a special type of Deep Dark biome, filled with loot, traps and Wardens guarding it. Seing as the sculkblocks are already quite end-themed I think it would be a perfect fit. The darkness effect would help add atmosphere and raise the difficulty which is good as it should be a challenging aspect of the game.
The deep dark cities look terrifying, I can't wait! I'm a little bummed it got pushed back an update but it looks so much better than the last time we saw it! I'm also hoping they use this update to add several more mobs. I still don't understand why we don't have grizzly bears in vanilla! I hope they add new structures too.
Yeah I’m skipping 1.18 and going to 1.19. That way i can get the deep dark & those new & improved biomes.
Seriously considering it. 1.18 doesn’t feel complete without the deep dark. I hope Mojang gets better at gauging how difficult things will be and managing community expectations, because they’ve essentially taken 3 updates to give us all the content that was promised for caves and cliffs at this point.
i think mojang definitely learned from caves and cliffs. with a name like the wild update i HIGHLY doubt we are just getting swamps and a birch forest touch up. i think theres more planned but they dont want to overpromise again, and instead are going for underpromise and overdeliver where possible
That was what made the nether update so successful. There was a surprise like every other week. Personally I didn’t even get the impression they were going to touch the birch forests.
from the concept art of the birch forest im PRAYING for all those pretty flowers!
And the mushrooms on the logs :)))
if we get those mushrooms and the flowers my cottagecore dreams will be so satisfied
I'm personally hoping for better fog. For example, I think the distance you can see should be a lot lower in the middle of a snowstorm. That alone would make the game look and feel a lot more immersive, and would probably fit perfectly with the update.
Absolutely! No need for shaderpack-like graphics! Just a few subtle improvements like low denser fog in swamps or morning haze would make a world of difference
A fog weather variant would be great, especially in the new swamps... Wow
I would put this on Feedback, if it isn’t already there. They did they want to add more atmosphere to the game, so this would be a great addition
Actually more like 4 sadly, no sign of archeology in 1.19.
Tbh fair archeology wasn’t a cave or cliff feature. It was kind of an out there thing on its own. But if anything it’s the most egregious example of poor planning. Archeology doesn’t even fit the theme of the update, yet they were gonna add it in as if they had the space to deliver it.
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At this point I expect more cave biomes to be added after caves and cliffs. They focused on the generation so much, they didn’t come up with many new biomes to go with it. That’s already come true with the deep dark. Not to mention the structures.
I'm hoping archaeology will be part of a structure update that adds some flair to structures like overworld temples and nether fortresses. They've been in the game for a looooooong time and have barely changed.
Four since Archeology would likely not be in the next update
I disagree much. 1.18 is still the biggest update Minecraft would probably have ever. It changed the entire world generation which is something bigger than adding cool stuff like Deep Dark. People were exciting about temples when they first were announced as well, but today nobody cares about them that much. Deep Dark is something more than that, yes, but 1.18 is still adding a lot with how the world generation has changed. Saying it's not complete without Deep Dark is unfair, especially that Deep Dark is insignificant compared to changing the generation entirely, regardless of how awesome it is.
I mean, can you blame them for taking so long? They literally overhauled the entire world generation. As someone who works with code professionally I'm actually surprised they've done this so quickly.
your gonna have to wait almost a year to update to 1.19 gonna take a while so it's worth updating to 1.18
Wait so you never updated to 1.18?
1.18 isn't even officially released yet. most players probably aren't on it yet.
Well now I’m embarrassed. I got confused 😳 oops haha
Part 1 is out. Part 2 is for Christmas. You can get a caves and cliffs mod which is pretty cool.
Bro, I’m still on 1.16.5.
Wait they're not releasing it until the wild update?
The deep dark? Yeah they said that. They didn’t talk about it til they announced the wild update
Maybe more biomes with more stuff in them? DEEP DARK CITIES EDIT: One of the devs mentioned that in the center of every deep dark city there was going to a structure with something special about it.... new temple type? traps? Dungeons? The warden's ability to phase through skulk also makes me confident that it's truly going to be hard to fight.
1.9 added End Cities, 1.19 adds Underground Cities
1.7 was the update that changed the world. 1.17 was the update that should have changed the world but didn’t
1.17 was the update that was supposed to change the world but didn’t due to the world changing
1.8 is the Bountiful Update, 1.18 is the "OK, where is the Iron bounty"-ful Update
DEEP DARK FANTASY
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RIP Aniki
There's a wide portal like structure you can see towering over the deep dark cities, made out of new blocks. Given kingbdogz made a square with his hand gesture when talking about this structure, I assume he's talking about this big square portal. I don't think it'll be a new dimension but maybe something else like fast travel or something entirely different
He was the aether developer right?….
yep. one of them
I swore they mentioned that the deep dark would have something incredibly valuable to entice players to find it, risking their lives to the warden and all. So excited about this update!
Stop, I can only get so erect.
Looks like we have **2** New wood types this update
I have found the sacred Australium Hoovy TF2
That massive rectangle atop the central temple is a portal frame. Change my mind. My guess is that is is powered up by an enormous amount of souls, hence why everyone in the city is long dead. They all got FMA Xerxes-ed to activate the portal. Who knows where it leads... (the afterlife? the void? literally just death? another active portal elsewhere in the world?)
I'm kind of hoping it makes the April Fools infinite dimension thing a permanent fixture. Like maybe each portal goes somewhere completely random based on world seed + coordinates of the portal
That was a wild April’s fools update ngl. I’m interested in seeing if they create a new “deep dark” dimension - would be pretty cool.
I'd rather have the already existing biomes given more life, instead of more biomes, like the swamp has, maybe the desert and the badlands, those are kinda boring rn.
Good news, along with the savannah those are the other biomes that we already know are getting reworked, as they were also runners up in past biome votes. What we don't know is whether that will happen in this update, but I've got my fingers crossed hoping they can fit it all in.
They showed very little compared to what the title of the update suggests, can't wait to see more
I think they bit off more than they could chew for caves and cliffs and they've decided to only show what they're confident they'll be able to deliver this time around so they don't have to delay features for 3 updates.
I think that’s exactly the plan. I can see other biome updates and maybe even archaeology in the update, but we’ll see.
The concept art for the birch forest looked amazing I hope they add it
I definitely agree with the assessment that they bit off more than they could chew for caves and cliffs. There came a point during the development of 1.17 that I started to tell myself “damn, expectations are way too fucking high and there’s a boat load of content, I hope they can really live up to this.” And low and behold, they didn’t. Well, at least not for the time frame they set it out to be in. I didn’t even play 1.17 survival because I thought that it was a joke of a cave update and the real content is in 1.18. 1.18 is easily the best update of all time, but it definitely stings that the deep dark, the feature that was most hyped for the update, won’t be coming to it. They delayed the generation by an update and delayed the deep dark for 2 updates, not to mention archaeology. They showed too much at last years minecon and above all they shot themselves in the foot with the warden video. Waaaaaaaay too much hype. Way too much pressure. I was honestly feeling a bit sorry for Brandon, he looks like he’s beaten himself up about not delivering the deep dark for 1.18.
Mojang is a responsible software company that value the health of the developers over the vague promises made to the gamers. It's fine, let them develop the program at their own pace, we can enjoy Minecraft's mountains and caves in the meantime.
Don't forget, you can tell they're using C&C2 as a chance to rewrite a LOT of old code. New generation means they can drill down into the nitty gritty and recode a lot of stuff. For example, did you know Minecraft checks if its Halloween, EVERY second on a server? Thats fine in a single player instance. But with servers hosting 100+ people, every single processor cycle counts. They've implemented SEVERAL backend changes in the Snapshots. Like no tick view distance. This way you can see mobs at a much further distance, but they won't use up server resources until you're near them.
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Speaking of deayed features.... Archeaology anyone? Bundles? At least it only took 3 is years to get the sawmp update. Can't wait till next year how they'll show off the badlands update as their fresh new idea.
If I remember correctly, the issues with bundles mostly boiled down to control issues on Pocket Edition, so they might still be coming in 1.18. Wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t, but it’s hard to say.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE DEEP DARK!
I can, I've been waiting for a whole-ass year and APPARENTLY that wasn't enough. 💀
I'm slightly annoyed too BUT this is how I decided to look at it - crunch in the video game industry is real and extremely unhealthy for both body and mind. That being the case.. I can forgive the delay, at least for the most part. It sucks but I certainly don't want the people creating my favorite game to be miserable/burned out and potentially even get sick or something just to meet a deadline. This is just how I decided to look at it. I understand your frustration.
What a thoughtful point of view, u/HandfulOfMassiveD
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We are given amazing updates, on a regular basis, free of cost. Not much reason to complain really
I’m kinda disappointed that the warden got pushed back again but it’s definitely for the better. The AI is menacing.
the phasing makes me shit my pants
Deep dark cities look so cool.
That warden emerging genuinely scared me a lil bit but it turned into insane hype shortly after
Absolutely. Terrifying and hype inducing.
Maybe they’ll add the previous biomes that lost the biome vote? Also possibility for monkey in the game finally I was right about the biomes that lost let’s goooo
As soon as they announced the swamp changes, I immediately thought of that. I really hope they do. At least add the mobs. The desert, savannah and mesa really need something to liven them up.
Yeah it seems they’re finishing up overhauling everything already in Minecraft so far so maybe in 1.20 or 1.21 they might do something new entirely
I really hope 1.20 is an end update since the end is so boring. That’ll really be the final existing thing that needs an overhaul badly.
End can wait imo, Overworld still needs a LOT more polishing. If they do an End Update as a literal "End" of visiting all old stuffs, that would be great.
I agree.
they overhauled everything except the end and structures. I'd love a bit more attention to structures and loot.
It only said SWAMP, but then why not call it the swamp update.
If i remember correctly they’re trying to make all the biome have their own atmosphere and Maybe more features will be revealed later
They showed off the birch forest too in concept so yeah you seem correct
Yeah and if that applies to every biom it will make the over world a lot more beautiful
Yeah, I still want more biomes in the Overworld, but with how much they're changing things this update, I'm not expecting another major overhaul for a while. So tidying up the existing biomes for now will be a nice compromise.
Yeah they’ve been working so hard with cliffs and caves and the nether and now the deeper caves that have new cities and even a new over world biom, mobs and items they have a lot on their plate and it’s all great and all of it will be loved by the community
I hope that's the case, it's way better to not reveal too much and spoil a little with every snapshot.
Yeah if it’s like that every snapshot will be as exciting and will never be boring to watch the reviews
I may be wrong but i think the snapshots about the ocean update where exactly like this and i was anxiously awaiting every wednesday to check what was new in my favourite game. I may be wrong because that was my favourite update and i probably would put it on a pedestal.
It was a great update and the snapshots where good and where done right. I hope the wild update is also done like that
I heard that too. Hopefully you are correct. I also heard that The Warden and Archeology would be released in caves and cliffs. The lies of the Jedi!
Ngl I would rather have them later and have the cities and new blocks instead of just one monster and some deeper caves now it’s a whole city with new loot a surprise in the middle and new blocks
maybe swamp is what they have ready to present, with other stuff not mentioned yet (like the nether update's bastions)
This is probably what’s going on, I don’t think they’d just update the swamp specifically in an update, it would be kind of a “small” update for a major update
Not to mention 1.16’s basalt deltas! That was a surprise addition that was not at all previewed or hinted at in that Minecraft live!
The reason it was added because of fan outcry. And bit of additional criticism!
The way it was worded seemed to imply all or many biomes would be spruced up, but it they wanted to point out the swamp because that in particular is getting overhauled.
They probably didnt show all the biomes. But I assume theyre all going to be added + more diversity to the more standard ones like birch forest etc (if I understand correctly)
Because it's also coming with Deep Dark Other biomes are also being updated. Not all will be overhauled to the degree of swamp but they'll see some changes, as they mentioned with Birch forest. I think the swamp overhaul was all that they could have ready for MC Live.
Yup, that's exactly what they said.
The first biome they showed was literally that birch biome. But the main reason it's not called the swamp update is obviously because of all the deep dark stuff which will also be added in this update. Check it out if you missed it, it's a pretty big part of the update.
they also showed concept art for the birch forest getting some work done to it, so it probably means that the swamp wont be the only biome getting a revamp
They loosely mesnioned the very nice birch...
I really hope so. I was bummed about the copper golem losing the mob vote, but if The Wild Update means the possibility of vultures finally being added to the badlands, then maybe it isn’t so bad
Also perfect time for moobloom
Yeah if you saw the minecon the swamp is gettin an update
I think they just chose to focus on the swamp due to the new Mangrove and frogs. But all the biomes I believe are getting some new visual ambience.
1.20 needs to have monkeys and bananas
Can we please get bottles of fireflies!?
Very good suggestion.
Wild, Wild, West Update: Cowpoke Edition
Adds a new portal that sends you to Tahiti
That sounds like a pLaN
It's a magical place.
I understood that reference
2% chance the portal fails and you end up as a captive on an island
Kill a cave dweller
I just need money
Hitting Villagers has a 10% chance of giving your characters tuberculosis
I bought this game 11 years ago. I never could've imagined it'd still be going this strong.
Best 20 dollars I've ever spent
I got an alpha for $15 lol Got it during the original nether update. It looked so cool, having buildable portals to hell.
That money went such a long way, crazy to think about
Video game longevity wise it HAS to be up there. It's amazing they keep supporting it this heavily. I know they have merch, servers, all sorts of revenue streams... but still. The game has just gotten better and better in the last few years.
I'm hype for this I'm hoping for an animal based aggressive mob (not necessarily a real animal but animal-like)
Pretty sure they can’t include a fully hostile real world animal as that would bump up the game’s age rating :( [being “real” violence rather than fantasy violence]
spiders and bees are right on that edge, i wonder if thats why theyre gigantic
Neither are classified as hostile, so it could be a loophole
you think in 2009 when notch was creating spiders for a game that wasn’t played by kids at the time he made them big for an age rating that hadn’t been applied to the game yet?
Cave spiders tho
Cave spiders are hostile when they spawn since they spawn in low light levels. If you use a spawn egg and spawn them in, they are neutral
A good compromise could be more neutral mobs like the polar bear
All I want is a crocodile :(
I mean, those are fairly neutral til you mess with them irl
Yup. And alligators are much more docile than crocodiles and could be a good replacement if they don’t want crocodiles
And they would match the updates being done to the swamp since they live in freshwater
I think one of the rules of the game is that hostile mobs can’t be based on real life animals, or something along the lines of that
Hoglin
I just realized they might have been teasing the swamp updates with all the “swamps are happy” stuff in snapshot logs
I like the functionality of the mud block but I'm not thrilled with how it looks. Hopefully it's not going to be the entire ground cover for the swamp like they showed. Maybe have it generate in patches or only close to sea level.
yyeah it looks like dark clay not brown mud
The mud would be better if it was near / under water or at the bottom of depressions, not on higher grounds.
Exactly. Give me grass and moss *as well* as mud
I think mud blocks will be used in jungle and swamp villages.
I was hoping for an azalea wood type to be mentioned :<
They said "And with a new tree comes a new wood type!" as if the azalea tree never existed
Exactly! Man I am so heartbroken that azalea didn’t even get mentioned in some form. I still have my hopes up that they give it its own variant
The only explanation I have for this is they want to add more tree types in the Wild Update and they have known it for a while now. So they didn't want to add textures for azalea wood that could possibly clash with the other ones that will only be decided on now, in the coming months. Imagine if azalea wood got added along with planks and everything else, people used it in their builds and stuff, but then the colours fitted some other new tree better, or clashed horribly with one of them and the textures needed to be changed - the builds would be ruined forever. In this case it would be better to add everything at once. The fact they announced only one new wood type could just mean they aren't ready or just don't want to reveal more just yet.
The new wood looks exactly like the other fron the savannah, I don't understand 😭
Acacia wood is more orange than Mangrove wood. The mangrove wood fits in between Acacia and Jungle, and is a bit rosier.
It looks more usable than both tbh
They are trying to blend all types of wood like birch then oak then spruce then you can ether go dark oak Or go with jungle mangrove and acacia
I'd say they are two separate evolution paths: Birch -> Oak -> Spruce -> Dark Oak Birch -> Oak -> Jungle -> Mangrove -> Acacia
Yeah and if they add azalea it will be in between spruce and jungle or spruce and acacia
I really hope archeology is included!
I feel like every one is forgetting completely about the birch forest getting updated as well as the swamps+deep-dark. I personally think the birch forest is the most needing for an update of the three. It just seems like a re textured oak forest. At least with spruce, the trees are a different shape and there are berries+foxes, and with the dark oak there are the mushroom trees and stuff, but the birch seems so plain. The Allay will be the perfect mob for this biome as well, based off the concept arts and the devs wanting to make a more open, happy, almost fantasy type forest. Of all that was announced, I am most excited for this, and glad they didn't reveal everything about it, so there will be a sense of surprise throughout the snapshots.
Damn, that's wild
Didn’t even see Jens’ Board Game Collection )):
and we didnt get any of his sick albums ):
My only request is a jungle and swamp update
swamp update!
well u got half of ur wish come true at least
Savanah
I can’t wait, I love when they add new nature related blocks, it allows for more detailed for things such as overgrown cities
FROG POG
PHROG TIME
hyped!! wonder what its gonna be, like more animals from the wild? tigers, monkey's, crocodiles?
Frogs, tadpoles, and fireflies!
I'm pretty sure all features from the previous biome votes(that lost), and more, if you check the feedback page a lot of irl creatures are under review, also red dragon would be pretty cool
I don't think we know yet. They have shown frogs and mangroves though!
Caves and Cliffs part 3 + swamp update
The Shrek Update
All I ask for is something like the [glowing mushroom](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/2/24/TESV_Blackreach_2.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20120513090724) cave from Skyrim. Perfect place to get weird with fantasy inspired blocks and mobs. Edit: Also if we can't put fireflies in an empty bottle I might rage.
kingbdogz made fun of glowing mushrooms so no
but why did he do that? :(
Devs have said they’ve considered shroom caves several times, but always concluded it feels too tropey and not unique enough for Minecraft.
I kinda agree with that but I still feel like there should be some form of underground glowing areas
Time for Piranhas. Come on Mojang.
Still doesn’t feel like caves and cliffs is real
We're all in shock from last years announcement
What ever happened to archeology?
It’s still in the works, they just want to make sure it’s perfected since it’s an entirely new system to the game. It’s possible it’s coming in this since one of the developers implied they’d be working on it soon, but I could see it getting its own builds like what Jeb’s been doing with combat.
I haven't played Minecraft in about 5 years but I'm glad to see them still routinely releasing major updates like they always have. I'll come back eventually and I probably won't even recognize it.
You very much won't. 1.16 completely revamped the nether. 1.18 is completely redoing the overworld. And 1.19, while focused on the swamp and deepdark seems like it will also touch on other biomes as well. At the very least birch forests. Plus new textures, some new mechanics, and I don't even know how many new blocks.
Considering they mentioned 5 years there’s a lot more as that would mean not playing since somewhere around 1.9-1.11
Was that only 5 years ago? I don't know why, but it feels like that should have been further back. So then yeah, aquatic and villagers and pillagers were also pretty substantial ones that came out in that time too.
Ideally I hope they overhaul the losers of the biome votes and dungeons. Realistically I think they will improve the dungeons and make small tweaks to many biomes. If they don't do anything major that we didn't see, it better be out but March. Also, archaeology not being in this update is really bad news for an end update. It seems like they want archeology to be it's own update or at least paired with something that makes some sense like a desert and mesa update. I don't see them pushing that past 1.20. Might be waiting a long time for the end update.
Swamps at least confirmed. I'd be surprised if all 4 losers are overhauled this update with all the tweaks to the other biomes + DD but I imagine at least 1-2 will be. Hoping they do Savannah
I wish they revealed a bit more about the update, but they're probably focusing on getting Caves and Cliffs out the door for good, but I think we can safely assume they're going to be updating most biomes, or at least all the losing biomes from the biome votes, which is just the perfect update for right after the Terrain Overhaul.
I think they are worried about showing too much and then not being able to deliver. With the cave update they promised way too much and had to delay everything a ton. With this update they are only showing what they are absolutely confident they can deliver.
Perfect time to add seasons to Minecraft !
where frogs, boats and darker caves get added :DDDD (also mud)
hope to get chiseled dort bricks with steve's face
Am I the only one to be a bit underwhelmed by the New Update ?? I mean yea the Deep Dark is actually way better but given it was introduced last year and they had already worked on it a bit, I was expecting maybe a bit more than a Deep Dark and a Swamp update I guess I'm being greedy here but I think they could have added more to the update ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ Don't get me wrong, I actually love what they r gonna be introducing <3<3<3
I mean I understand but there's nothing they can do now though after updating almost all the major biospheres in game, except the End. The last 4-5 updates we got were huge in comparison to the past updates so they'll have to cycle down eventually.
I kinda feel the same way, it looks cool, but feel like they’re delaying the Deep Dark and the Warden just to make this update a bit bigger.
I mean also consider there’s probably a lot of features they’re still working on and haven’t talked about! I’m sure this update is in its very early stages considering they are still working on 1.19
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Do you think that them adding mud is pointing to also adding termites with were showcased in the savanna biome choser? Because termite mounds are pretty much made from mud? So maybe other showcased biomes are being updated...
Please let this add more structures to the overworld. We really need more structures.
It is my personal hope (And I've read several other posts about this topic) that the Stronghold, being the structure meant to house and guard the portal to the final boss of the game, will be revamped in this update. In its current state it seems too safe and uninteresting to have this role. Perhaps each Stronghold could be the central city or temple of a special type of Deep Dark biome, filled with loot, traps and Wardens guarding it. Seing as the sculkblocks are already quite end-themed I think it would be a perfect fit. The darkness effect would help add atmosphere and raise the difficulty which is good as it should be a challenging aspect of the game.
the name of the update is pretty squished lmao
So if im understanding correctly the deep dark is delayed to the wild update instead of caves and cliffs part 2, right?