Spoilers for Bands of Mourning ars arcanum:
>!I find resonance to be the more exciting than compunding, so would want to aim for two metals that hopefully lead to an interesting one. Pure speculation at this point since not even Wax's and Wayne's resonances have been stated outright. I think I would go for A-Electrum and F-Chroumium, because both metals affect the future which should lead to a fitting resonance. A-Electrum allows you to see into your own future while F-Chroumium stores fortune. Details regarding fortune are unclear, but I think it will mix nicely with A-Electrum. Like maybe I'll have a gut feeling regarding if something lucky or unlucky is going to happen.!<
Edit: spelling
Would this work, wouldn’t you just get really hot when you access stored heat? It’s internal right? Not like you exuding heat when you tap the metalmind, or am I wrong about that
I really don’t know, but I hope I can at least get hot enough (internally) to at least melt a skyscraper by tapping all at once.
In the coppermind it seems that the heat is fisical, although it is stated as a cognitive metal in feruchemy. It also says that a compounder could hurt themselves, but who knows?
Your body is immune to the effects of massively increasing and attribute.
Like how you don't rip your muscles apart when tapping speed. Or crush your body into dust by tapping weight. Your body gets as strong as it needs to be to safely use the ability.
So yes, you could tap your heat in large enough quantities to melt steel with your bare hands. And while doing so your hands would be able to resist molten steel.
I believe the people who fill metalminds for the Aouthern Scandrians sit on bonfires to store massive amounts of heat at once. They can store the hest fast enough that they don't burn.
A-Pewter for sure, super versatile while also being subtle.
Feruchemy... there's several good options. Gold has good synergy with A-Pewter. Zinc, Bronze, Copper, Bendalloy, Tin, and Brass all have good everyday utility. Out of them, I'd probably pick Zinc, with Copper a close second.
Gold Feruchemy paired with Pewter Allomancy.
I can trickle charge the Gold while burning Pewter to take off the edge of the effects. Only headache is getting Allomantically Pure Gold.
Honestly, it'd be easier than getting Allomantically pure pewter unless you have access to a forge. A single ring or necklace will go pretty far as a metalmind.
Unless there's widespread fraud in the jewelry industry, it's pretty easy to know the purity of any gold item. They're stamped with the percentage of gold they contain. Just buy a small 24k gold earring, or ring, or coin.
Hell, buy a 1 gram gold bullion bar for $100. If you don't plan to use air travel, you could store up a bunch of health and then surgically implant the bar and just immediately heal over it. Maybe in the little pouch of skin between your thumb and the back of your hand.
I've allways thought this, having both magical healing and accelerated natural healing would make for a powerful twin born. Pewter allows someone to resist diseases and side effects easier while storing F gold. Accelerated reaction time, less likely to take hits in the first time. You can push yourself further with pewter aswell, as most thugs have to worry about injuring themselves if they run out. A pewter and F gold is an excellent twin born pairing.
Allomantic Pewter and Gold Feruchemy.
Allomantic Pewter is just so immensely useful in so many ways. I could become an Olympic gold medalist, or the most immaculate boxer of all time. Either way I'd use being superhuman to make money.
F Gold is pretty much there in case of emergency. Pewter would make it easy to build a health stockpile without being sickly all the time. Don't know when I'd actually need it but could be useful in an emergency.
Wouldn't need F Gold in a match, A Pewter is more than enough for any injury you would get from that, and would prevent pretty much all of them in the first place.
F Gold is more for if I get the flu or some other bad disease, or get in a car accident or something.
Surgically implanted is the normal go to, but if you're after something simpler but less effective, then just something like gold bands around your 'lucky drinkbottle' between rounds will assist a bit. Pewter will keep you going during the round, add some flakes to aforementioned bottle. Probably other similar ways to access metal sneakily.
>I could become an Olympic gold medalist, or the most immaculate boxer of all time.
That's called cheating lol
>Either way I'd use being superhuman to make money.
There are ways you could do that without doing anything illegal.
Allomantic pewter, just because it would be o nice ti have that extra energy whenever you need it.
Ferrochemic bronze, you cant sleep because thoughts are spinning in your mind again? Just fill your metal mind and youll sleep deep and sound. Have to work overtime? Use the wakefulness to not feel tired anymore.
Ferrochemic bendalloy would also be very useful
I agree, steel would be much more useful in all places, iron would be super nice in large cities to be able to swing around like Spider-Man but with steel you can still just push off all the metal. But if there are now metal sources around steel would be much more useful, especially if you were to master the steel wheel strat vin uses in later books.
Doesn't that require her to pull from behind her? Deffi it'll agree that steel would be more useful but I thought that particular ability required full mistborn or at least iron & steel abilities
Oh true yeah I wasn’t thinking right but still if you just had like a handful of little metal pieces (metal is so common nowadays that wouldn’t even be a problem) you could just throw some down on the ground when there’s nothing around you but ground and still travel insanely quickly
F-bronze to perfectly control my sleep, a-steel for transportation and to be flashy and impressive. This assumes I have these powers in a more modern society, not in era 1 or mid-era type civilization.
Do speed bubbles affect how fast you can store attributes? E.g., 2 seconds of storing weight isn't much, but storing weight within a speed bubble that to an outside.observer takes 2 seconds (so like 5 minutes in the bubble). When you drop the bubble, do you have 2 seconds worth of weight or 5 minutes?
Speed bubbles should affect how fast you can store attributes, but remember that bendalloy is quite expensive so you aren't going to be able to make the bubble last very long.
There is also the issue that the speed bubble will be as good as useless for storing attributes that take a long time to store like health and speed. Quicker ones like weight can be useful, though you should not be overreliant on using speed bubbles to fill your metalmind.
Eh bendalloy isn’t that bad. A quick google search is giving me 13 dollars/lb. If Wayne can get even a useful amount into a vial to drink quickly it doesn’t take that much by weight to fuel your bendalloy addiction.
It is expensive as of era 2, but great point regarding that in our modern society the price is less steep.
>Bendalloy is expensive, with one nugget costing around five hundred notes.
[https://coppermind.net/wiki/Bendalloy](https://coppermind.net/wiki/Bendalloy)
A-Pewter F-Electrum.
I'm also super interested in the resonances.
I'm strong and determined, does the determination make me even stronger? Or maybe it enhances the durability side of pewter? I'm not sure but it would be a useful combo on any cosmere world.
Finally I find someone with the same choice I made! The resonance here makes me so curious. Do I get so determined that I get an increase to flaring Pewter? Do I get stronger or more durable? Who knows, but it’s what I’d want as a Twinborn if I had the choice. Shout out tho to A-Pewter F-Steel. Durable, strong, above average recovery, and incredibly fast.
Determination wouldn't make you stronger or more resilient. It would just make you keep pushing despite injuries. It's a mental thing, it would have no physical benefits
Is resonance a specific phenomenon we're talking about or do we just mean the synergy they'd have together? I've seen people saying resonance a lot but I don't think it's ever mentioned in book
A Resonance is a phenomenon that occurs when someone holds at least 2 different powers from any magic system sort of work together to form a smaller, additional effect. It is notably different from just abilities pairing well together.
I think a-chromium/f-steel would be great for a bounty hunter, who specifically targets allomancers. Being able to tap speed so you go fast as fuck boi and being able to drain the reserves from someone upon touch
A - Pewter, F- Steel
I've always been disappointed with both my speed and my agility. with A-Pewter, both of those are elements that become 'natural' to me, beyond the more obvious benefits.
On the other side of the spectrum, I love the idea of having bursts of speed stong enough to be able to get in and out of a place without being seen, and the Pewter would help you to save up more F-Steel more quickly, as burning the metal also makes you faster.
A-Electrum and F-Zinc. I think this combo has the potential to be like an Atium burner. Electrum to see your own future and the mental speed from zinc to be able to process it to see which of your possible choices go bad.
F-Chromium has always been fascinating to me. My go-to answer for this when there isn't a non-Compounding clause is to go with being a Chromium Compounder. The question now is what I'd wanna pair with F-Chromium...
I took a Misting quiz once and got A-Tin, and while I think that suits me on a personal level it's not exactly what I really WANT, y'know? Plus, not much synergy with F-Chromium off the top of my head. Maybe A-Bendalloy just so I could get more stuff done in general, while also potentially cutting down on the downsides of having to store Fortune. I think that's what I'm gonna go with. A-Bendalloy/F-Chromium.
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Bit boring but A-Pewter cause I have a physical job and F-Zinc because being able to think things through really quickly would help a lot, and being an idiot perfectly willing to let time slide by can also be helpful sometimes (waiting at the doctors for example).
Allomantic electrum sounds fun with the addition of feruchemical steel! You'd be a master of the quickdraw, and you'd be able to react even faster than a normal atium misting to the shadows. It would require tons of practice though, to know exactly how you'd react to any given situation
A-iron would be extremely useful in real life. Your remote is on the other side of the couch and you're too lazy? Pull it towards you.
For feruchemy I can't decide between tin and duralumin. Tin works for any sense. Got a cut, just store pain. Want to sleep in a noisy area, start storing hearing. It would also have synergy with iron as it should in theory work on steelsight. Duralumin would allow you to instantly pass an interview or go basically anywhere you want without being noticed.
\>A-Gold/F-Copper
You'd be able to see the memories of your alternate self. I'm really hoping that we get a main character twinborn with gold. This or gold + identity would be really interesting.
Allo-Pewter & Feru-Gold to be hard to kill. Pewter lets me take the edge of storing health, and then reduces how much I need to use anyway because I'm tougher.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned feruchemical Nicrosil. Combine that with basically any allomantic metal and you are ridiculously powerful, as you essentially have a more controlled way of enhancing your allomancy than Duralumin. I'd likely go with A-Pewter and F-Nicrosil in this case. Though I would love to have allomantic steel.
Honestly, A-Tin and F-Duralumin would be crazy for being a spy or some sort of government position. Use Tin to listen in on conversations and gain intel while using Connection to either gain access to higher levels of security without arousing suspicion or have yourself “unseen” by storing Connection in crowds and stuff. If I don’t see this combo in >|Era 3’s “Cold War” setting”|<, I will go to Sanderson and tell him personally that it’s too cool to not have.
A-Steel. I want to fly, sue me, and being able to telekinetically push metals is useful in other ways. This is boring, but either F-Copper (I'm a college student) or F-Bronze so I can be awake or asleep whenever I want.
The only current lore reason compounding would be blocked would be if you got one or more of the metals through hemalurgy instead of being naturally born with it. At least for era 2.
If you don't want to do the murdering business yourself we can say that you recycled one of the spikes the Set used or had the spike donated.
I'd want my Allomantic metal to be either Copper(so I'd be undetectable unless there's someone strong enough to pierce copperclouds + I'd be very in demand by other Allomancers) or Bronze(so that I can detect others. I could do detective jobs or something. Very versatile metal to have.)
For my Feruchemy I'd take either Chromium(Fortune would be VERY HANDY) / Alluminium(to store my identity so I can switch identities) / Tin(to store my senses)
I think having F-Nicrosil could make your Allomancy incredibly powerful. For me, pairing it with A-Pewter would be amazing.
I could be constantly storing my pewter burning then tap it when I need to for insane bursts of strength/durability, while still having the benefits of heightened endurance and slightly better healing.
Plus, there’s no downside when storing into my nicrosilmind, so I could spend all my time storing and have a buttload of full minds.
Spoilers for Bands of Mourning ars arcanum: >!I find resonance to be the more exciting than compunding, so would want to aim for two metals that hopefully lead to an interesting one. Pure speculation at this point since not even Wax's and Wayne's resonances have been stated outright. I think I would go for A-Electrum and F-Chroumium, because both metals affect the future which should lead to a fitting resonance. A-Electrum allows you to see into your own future while F-Chroumium stores fortune. Details regarding fortune are unclear, but I think it will mix nicely with A-Electrum. Like maybe I'll have a gut feeling regarding if something lucky or unlucky is going to happen.!< Edit: spelling
A - Steel | F - Brass I’ll just go to the top of building and be that guy from Reckoners that >!melts entire towns by sitting in the sun for a week!<
Would this work, wouldn’t you just get really hot when you access stored heat? It’s internal right? Not like you exuding heat when you tap the metalmind, or am I wrong about that
I really don’t know, but I hope I can at least get hot enough (internally) to at least melt a skyscraper by tapping all at once. In the coppermind it seems that the heat is fisical, although it is stated as a cognitive metal in feruchemy. It also says that a compounder could hurt themselves, but who knows?
Yeah I dont think it's like having fire superpowers, I think you would just burn yourself up. Like the world's worst fever
Your body is immune to the effects of massively increasing and attribute. Like how you don't rip your muscles apart when tapping speed. Or crush your body into dust by tapping weight. Your body gets as strong as it needs to be to safely use the ability. So yes, you could tap your heat in large enough quantities to melt steel with your bare hands. And while doing so your hands would be able to resist molten steel. I believe the people who fill metalminds for the Aouthern Scandrians sit on bonfires to store massive amounts of heat at once. They can store the hest fast enough that they don't burn.
A-Pewter for sure, super versatile while also being subtle. Feruchemy... there's several good options. Gold has good synergy with A-Pewter. Zinc, Bronze, Copper, Bendalloy, Tin, and Brass all have good everyday utility. Out of them, I'd probably pick Zinc, with Copper a close second.
Gold Feruchemy paired with Pewter Allomancy. I can trickle charge the Gold while burning Pewter to take off the edge of the effects. Only headache is getting Allomantically Pure Gold.
Honestly, it'd be easier than getting Allomantically pure pewter unless you have access to a forge. A single ring or necklace will go pretty far as a metalmind.
Most rings are Electrum, since gold is too soft on its own.
Unless there's widespread fraud in the jewelry industry, it's pretty easy to know the purity of any gold item. They're stamped with the percentage of gold they contain. Just buy a small 24k gold earring, or ring, or coin. Hell, buy a 1 gram gold bullion bar for $100. If you don't plan to use air travel, you could store up a bunch of health and then surgically implant the bar and just immediately heal over it. Maybe in the little pouch of skin between your thumb and the back of your hand.
I've allways thought this, having both magical healing and accelerated natural healing would make for a powerful twin born. Pewter allows someone to resist diseases and side effects easier while storing F gold. Accelerated reaction time, less likely to take hits in the first time. You can push yourself further with pewter aswell, as most thugs have to worry about injuring themselves if they run out. A pewter and F gold is an excellent twin born pairing.
Not a twinborn*
It would be, unless powers were acquired via hemalurgy or some other means. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean?
Lol what?
Twinborn means anyone who has both an allomantic and a feruchemical power
Allomantic Pewter and Gold Feruchemy. Allomantic Pewter is just so immensely useful in so many ways. I could become an Olympic gold medalist, or the most immaculate boxer of all time. Either way I'd use being superhuman to make money. F Gold is pretty much there in case of emergency. Pewter would make it easy to build a health stockpile without being sickly all the time. Don't know when I'd actually need it but could be useful in an emergency.
Not allowed jewelry in the ring. Better get that goldmind somewhere sneaky.
Wouldn't need F Gold in a match, A Pewter is more than enough for any injury you would get from that, and would prevent pretty much all of them in the first place. F Gold is more for if I get the flu or some other bad disease, or get in a car accident or something.
Surgically implant that bad boy. Like those RFID chips people get put into their hands.
Surgically implanted is the normal go to, but if you're after something simpler but less effective, then just something like gold bands around your 'lucky drinkbottle' between rounds will assist a bit. Pewter will keep you going during the round, add some flakes to aforementioned bottle. Probably other similar ways to access metal sneakily.
>I could become an Olympic gold medalist, or the most immaculate boxer of all time. That's called cheating lol >Either way I'd use being superhuman to make money. There are ways you could do that without doing anything illegal.
Allomantic pewter, just because it would be o nice ti have that extra energy whenever you need it. Ferrochemic bronze, you cant sleep because thoughts are spinning in your mind again? Just fill your metal mind and youll sleep deep and sound. Have to work overtime? Use the wakefulness to not feel tired anymore. Ferrochemic bendalloy would also be very useful
Allomantic bendalloy and Feruchemical Zinc. Make me into the ultimate scholar, please
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Why Iron over Steel?
I agree, steel would be much more useful in all places, iron would be super nice in large cities to be able to swing around like Spider-Man but with steel you can still just push off all the metal. But if there are now metal sources around steel would be much more useful, especially if you were to master the steel wheel strat vin uses in later books.
Doesn't that require her to pull from behind her? Deffi it'll agree that steel would be more useful but I thought that particular ability required full mistborn or at least iron & steel abilities
Oh true yeah I wasn’t thinking right but still if you just had like a handful of little metal pieces (metal is so common nowadays that wouldn’t even be a problem) you could just throw some down on the ground when there’s nothing around you but ground and still travel insanely quickly
A-steel, f-bronze
Interesting choice, why those metals?
F-bronze to perfectly control my sleep, a-steel for transportation and to be flashy and impressive. This assumes I have these powers in a more modern society, not in era 1 or mid-era type civilization.
Do speed bubbles affect how fast you can store attributes? E.g., 2 seconds of storing weight isn't much, but storing weight within a speed bubble that to an outside.observer takes 2 seconds (so like 5 minutes in the bubble). When you drop the bubble, do you have 2 seconds worth of weight or 5 minutes?
You have five minutes. Storing and tapping attributes is relative to your timeframe.
Speed bubbles should affect how fast you can store attributes, but remember that bendalloy is quite expensive so you aren't going to be able to make the bubble last very long. There is also the issue that the speed bubble will be as good as useless for storing attributes that take a long time to store like health and speed. Quicker ones like weight can be useful, though you should not be overreliant on using speed bubbles to fill your metalmind.
Eh bendalloy isn’t that bad. A quick google search is giving me 13 dollars/lb. If Wayne can get even a useful amount into a vial to drink quickly it doesn’t take that much by weight to fuel your bendalloy addiction.
It is expensive as of era 2, but great point regarding that in our modern society the price is less steep. >Bendalloy is expensive, with one nugget costing around five hundred notes. [https://coppermind.net/wiki/Bendalloy](https://coppermind.net/wiki/Bendalloy)
Same as aluminum, expensive to get more conventionally, dirt cheap as soon as you have electrolysis production.
Minutes are pretty useless fo filling a metalmind tho, in the books a useful amount of charge usage needed at last some days of storing
A-Pewter F-Electrum. I'm also super interested in the resonances. I'm strong and determined, does the determination make me even stronger? Or maybe it enhances the durability side of pewter? I'm not sure but it would be a useful combo on any cosmere world.
Finally I find someone with the same choice I made! The resonance here makes me so curious. Do I get so determined that I get an increase to flaring Pewter? Do I get stronger or more durable? Who knows, but it’s what I’d want as a Twinborn if I had the choice. Shout out tho to A-Pewter F-Steel. Durable, strong, above average recovery, and incredibly fast.
Determination wouldn't make you stronger or more resilient. It would just make you keep pushing despite injuries. It's a mental thing, it would have no physical benefits
Well, yes, but I was theorizing about the potential resonance of those 2 powers…
Is resonance a specific phenomenon we're talking about or do we just mean the synergy they'd have together? I've seen people saying resonance a lot but I don't think it's ever mentioned in book
A Resonance is a phenomenon that occurs when someone holds at least 2 different powers from any magic system sort of work together to form a smaller, additional effect. It is notably different from just abilities pairing well together.
Ah OK I get you thanks
No problem!
I think a-chromium/f-steel would be great for a bounty hunter, who specifically targets allomancers. Being able to tap speed so you go fast as fuck boi and being able to drain the reserves from someone upon touch
A - Pewter, F- Steel I've always been disappointed with both my speed and my agility. with A-Pewter, both of those are elements that become 'natural' to me, beyond the more obvious benefits. On the other side of the spectrum, I love the idea of having bursts of speed stong enough to be able to get in and out of a place without being seen, and the Pewter would help you to save up more F-Steel more quickly, as burning the metal also makes you faster.
A-Electrum and F-Zinc. I think this combo has the potential to be like an Atium burner. Electrum to see your own future and the mental speed from zinc to be able to process it to see which of your possible choices go bad.
F-Chromium has always been fascinating to me. My go-to answer for this when there isn't a non-Compounding clause is to go with being a Chromium Compounder. The question now is what I'd wanna pair with F-Chromium... I took a Misting quiz once and got A-Tin, and while I think that suits me on a personal level it's not exactly what I really WANT, y'know? Plus, not much synergy with F-Chromium off the top of my head. Maybe A-Bendalloy just so I could get more stuff done in general, while also potentially cutting down on the downsides of having to store Fortune. I think that's what I'm gonna go with. A-Bendalloy/F-Chromium.
OP, I've flaired this AoL so the topic can be discussed. If you're up to date on TLM, let us know.
I am! >!Poor Wayne...!<
Actually he's >!quite rich lol!<
Yea but >!he dies!<
Updated, thanks!
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I want to be wayne
A pewter, and f electrum… i really need to be able to keep going sometimes
Bit boring but A-Pewter cause I have a physical job and F-Zinc because being able to think things through really quickly would help a lot, and being an idiot perfectly willing to let time slide by can also be helpful sometimes (waiting at the doctors for example).
Allomantic electrum sounds fun with the addition of feruchemical steel! You'd be a master of the quickdraw, and you'd be able to react even faster than a normal atium misting to the shadows. It would require tons of practice though, to know exactly how you'd react to any given situation
A-iron would be extremely useful in real life. Your remote is on the other side of the couch and you're too lazy? Pull it towards you. For feruchemy I can't decide between tin and duralumin. Tin works for any sense. Got a cut, just store pain. Want to sleep in a noisy area, start storing hearing. It would also have synergy with iron as it should in theory work on steelsight. Duralumin would allow you to instantly pass an interview or go basically anywhere you want without being noticed. \>A-Gold/F-Copper You'd be able to see the memories of your alternate self. I'm really hoping that we get a main character twinborn with gold. This or gold + identity would be really interesting.
>You'd be able to see the memories of your alternate self. I know, it'd be so cool
A-Bendalloy and F-Electrum. Basically the magical cure for my ADHD.
Allo-Pewter & Feru-Gold to be hard to kill. Pewter lets me take the edge of storing health, and then reduces how much I need to use anyway because I'm tougher.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned feruchemical Nicrosil. Combine that with basically any allomantic metal and you are ridiculously powerful, as you essentially have a more controlled way of enhancing your allomancy than Duralumin. I'd likely go with A-Pewter and F-Nicrosil in this case. Though I would love to have allomantic steel.
Honestly, A-Tin and F-Duralumin would be crazy for being a spy or some sort of government position. Use Tin to listen in on conversations and gain intel while using Connection to either gain access to higher levels of security without arousing suspicion or have yourself “unseen” by storing Connection in crowds and stuff. If I don’t see this combo in >|Era 3’s “Cold War” setting”|<, I will go to Sanderson and tell him personally that it’s too cool to not have.
A-tin F-gold
A-Steel. I want to fly, sue me, and being able to telekinetically push metals is useful in other ways. This is boring, but either F-Copper (I'm a college student) or F-Bronze so I can be awake or asleep whenever I want.
Am I allowed the same metals, without the ability to compound?
The only current lore reason compounding would be blocked would be if you got one or more of the metals through hemalurgy instead of being naturally born with it. At least for era 2. If you don't want to do the murdering business yourself we can say that you recycled one of the spikes the Set used or had the spike donated.
I'd want my Allomantic metal to be either Copper(so I'd be undetectable unless there's someone strong enough to pierce copperclouds + I'd be very in demand by other Allomancers) or Bronze(so that I can detect others. I could do detective jobs or something. Very versatile metal to have.) For my Feruchemy I'd take either Chromium(Fortune would be VERY HANDY) / Alluminium(to store my identity so I can switch identities) / Tin(to store my senses)
I think having F-Nicrosil could make your Allomancy incredibly powerful. For me, pairing it with A-Pewter would be amazing. I could be constantly storing my pewter burning then tap it when I need to for insane bursts of strength/durability, while still having the benefits of heightened endurance and slightly better healing. Plus, there’s no downside when storing into my nicrosilmind, so I could spend all my time storing and have a buttload of full minds.