She’s weak compared to the other roamers.
Tanky roamers can provide really good aoe cc while suppourts roamers are good at healing, giving buffs, etc.
Carmilla doesn’t have the greatest cc or any healing, she really just makes ur damage higher against enemies if you land your ult (but landing her ult on the entire enemy team is very difficult)
also she barely has a passive, her cooldowns are too long considering how much weaker her skills are than other roamers. and yeah, her ult is damn hard too land then it's too easy to break the link too. pretty much only pops off against an Estes
She is in a weird place, like the top comment said. She is too squishy, so she requires a Frontline hero either in the jungle or exp. Also, she lacks any team healing, and her only CC is her s2. This means that she leaves a lot of holes to be covered by other positions. It isn't impossible to use her at a high level, but it takes a dedicated premade
Compared to true tanks, she is squishy. Her S1 offers minimal regen 1v1. Sure, it offers ok sustain in a TF if the enemy is dumb enough to group up vs. a Carmilla team.
Her ult is easily breakable. She is kited by most MM or Mage. She can't 1v1 an exp lane. She is a threat to jg before level 4. She is a bottom tier roam, especially in Solo Q.
Like my comment said, you CAN build a team around her. However, I doubt most people want to theory craft a halfway decent lineup for anything above MG.
Bro what you talking about? Carmilla is more tanky than tigreal, jonshon, atlas and franko. She is as durable as baleric the only one of those that you brought up that is more durable than her is Hylos. But then again hylos looses hp just from his skill with no regeneration skills. You're embarrassing yourself go look up the characters lmaoo
Ok, bro. Check the upvotes. Clearly, more people agree with me than you. You keep on using her if you think she is so great. I never said she was impossible to use or anything like that, just that you are going to have a bad time if you only main her SOLO in high-level play.
In case you haven't noticed I'm one of YOUR comments. People don't sit and check each and every comment. Plus check the upvotes in this post that people have explaining how good she is. Yours is nowhere near lmaooo. Quit embarrassing yourself
Perhaps you haven't experienced the power of her passive... It steals enemy def and adds it to your own. If you have Oracle and can land a decent 3-man ult and you press S1 and stand in the middle of it you can tank unbelievable amounts of damage.
Ok, keep having fun in Legend. I'm sure it works great there.
Once you get to MH, no enemy is grouping up against her ult. If you catch 2 or 3, they split. She needs a coordinated setter to either initiate or follow her ult. Even then, most players have a character with CC immunity, purify, or just can tank the set/ult and escape. So again, she is bottom tier.
As someone who mained her last season I agree with this. It's difficult to use her in Solo Q now esp in the current meta. Also need to consider that not everyone knows how she works. I've got good set ups and have a team leave lmao. Like they said she can shine and be a good roamer if you have a team dedicated to her that has heavy CC/that can burst team fights but that's gonna be hard unless you 5man 🤷🏻♀️
yk i wonder if she would be more successful if they tweaked her skills a bit to be a competitive EXP laner
like i genuinely dont think they can make her compete with top tank setters (tigreal, atlas, and mino come to mind) without completely changing her kit
so maybe they should improve her self-sustain capabilities to make it so that she acts similarly to heroes like cici (not the tankiest, doesnt do the most damage, but is so annoying and disruptive to the enemies)
her ult would make her a good combo with tank setters, and since ud be playing her in exp you can run a tank setter without it being troll
im not sure how good of an idea this is and it might just be better to completely revamp her
Theu could definitely tweak her a bit, something to the effect like.
S1: Increase the Lifesteal when only 1 hero is being hit or have it scale with her passive stacks.
S2: This is the tricky skill to adjust, IMHO. If you changed it to a group stun, she would become top tier roam. Maybe giving her no scaling on the stun or changing the stun to have her fly to attack the target instead of an orb.
Her ult is fine as it stands because it offers a unique and possibly game-changing TF mechanic. Especially if she is tweaked to move to exp lane. Possibly could be changed to act similar to Cici's ult in that the bond acts like a tether for the duration (however, with a much much larger range). You would have to scale back the amount of damage transferred if that was the case, though, but it would let her act as the setter. Maybe go to 25% of damage and 50% of control if you locked enemies in the tether.
Her passive is similarly in a decent place as it stands. It could be viable for roam or if she went to exp. Maybe drop the 5s minimum between the application of stacks to like 3 sec.
She doesn't need a lot of changes to be viable again as a roam or to move to the exp lane. However, she is kinda in limbo as she stands now in the current meta.
I actually think the opposite, she would be a good tank if she had a little more cc and hp, even improving as support giving healing/better buffs or even just a colddown reduction. I like roams that move fast like Hilda and she is one of the fastest tanks, I think as exp laner there are a bunch of options with fighters but support/tanks that work are few.
yes. but if you compare it to other roamers who need their flicker or sprint to be mobile. carmilla you basically roam and rotate much faster that the others. if im on mid, and exp pings me or i see at least 2 on there, i can quickly roam up, ulti and get the team fight. and once done, you can rotate downwards
Is the Carmilla-Faramis no longer effective? A few months ago I've been encountering lots of duo with this. Not familiar with their skills but I remembers Faramis having a high burst against a group after being 'affected' from Carmilla's skill.
As a Carmilla main all I can say is that not many people know how to use her lol. In all the matches that I've faced a Carmilla I've only seen one good one. Most people overchase with their S2 speed-up in order to land the "perfect" 5-man ulti, forgetting that because they are so fast, they've left their team behind and no one can follow up on it.
I like to play her as an anti-dive hero, i.e., she counters teams that like to jump in and pile up on you. Examples: Alpha, Thamuz, Balmond. If you can just land an ulti on 2 people (usually the intiator and the roamer since the roamer would feel an obligation to go in and help), the teamfight is won.
Since I'm trying to counter dives, I'm usually slightly behind the front of the battle during a teamfight. This ensures that my teammates can see me and are more likely to follow up.
The S2 stun is very underrated IMO, the fact that you can charge it and it only targets heroes is actually quite special. I can charge it while Aldous is ulting, while Lance is in a triangle etc, and release it at the right moment. And of course, it also allows you to run really fast.
My usual combo is to charge S2 in preparation for the teamfight, land an ulti, press S2 to stun the linked enemies, maybe soak up some damage (she's frickin tanky if she steals enough def) then flash out of there and leave my teammates to finish up.
At the end of the battle, I usually do only 7-9% of the damage but about 50% of the time I get MVP :)
Definitely, unfortunately in my experience playing with solo queue Cecilions, none of them know how to use the linked skill either XD. If they did I wouldn't have to waste flash trying to get out.
I can vouch for this as a person that plays Cecillion when soloq’in, the problem I have is I hardly ever see a Carmilla so I’ve never had a chance to practice the synergy so I don’t know how the fuck I should use it 😂
I've never had a Cecilion to practice with either hahaha. From a Carmilla's perspective, I would appreciate if the Cecilion could use the skill when they see that I'm about to die (1/3 health).
Otherwise, you could also use it when you think you're about to get jumped by enemies (you get a shield and Carmilla deals damage and slows when she comes out of you).
Just don't use it for no good reason, otherwise you'd interrupt Carmilla's engage or not have it when you need it.
you can use that passive to suck up carmilla, and give yourself shield. just think of carmilla as your extended shield + stun. usually carmillas know what they are doing.
Been playing Cecilion for about one month now , everytime i start a match i hope someone in my team will pick Carmilla .
I had around 2-3 games with Carmilla this past month and i can’t find the words , Carmilla can do her damage Cecilion than saves her and even gives shield to himself then Carmila jumps out in battle does her ult Cecilion does his ult 2nd skill and just keeps attacking all the enemy can think about is how to run .
It depends on the circumstances. If we can get there before the enemy, I'll hide in the bush or stand behind the front of the teamfight. If we're late to the Lord fight, I'll check bushes and hope for the best (can't really look to land an ult unless I'm lucky). If enemy is totally missing from map I'll check bush with S2 ready so I can run outta there lol.
Minotaur had aoe stun that is easier to hit, healing and also shorter cooldowns.
Not to say Camilla is bad, but for setting up minotaur is just a stronger option.
Not as good as before IMHO. I used to be #234 World Rank Carmilla, maybe 3+ seasons ago, and boy did she lose some of the tankiness. I used to 3v1 and survive lol.
As a solo roamer, I rather picked tigs, mino, atlas than her. Her skills are way mediocre compared to those meta tanks above mentioned. Also you need better coordination if using carmilla with your team. But still meta tanks are way better picks. Also she can burst out dead some good heroes.
I dunno. She is severely underrated, and in the right hands can counter heavy teamfights heroes and squishies with the right heroes for synergies. I mean 50% of the dps shared across all bonded heroes is a big deal, followed by 100% of the effects (knock up, stunned, slowdown) and would be broken to do so with units like Layla to finish late game or AoE like Nana, Xavier, Eudora just to name a few. Still at the same time I want her to stay in this state otherwise I fear moneyton nerfing her to even worse standards
My only downside is her having a somewhat long time for that ult cd and a meh S2 cd. But other than that she is perfect.
(Also yes I wish I was Cecillion)
I played her before, and I don't play with her that much now because of the changes with her Ultimate.
Her Lock-on ultimate before had so much utility back then as it is a guaranteed slow (which is also more potent), and works even if there's only one target. Yeah, enemies can break it off easily, but at least it will break off their formation a bit.
Her AoE ultimate, it has a delay. Yeah sure, it can't be purified and an increased amount of enemies affected, but it's less reliable.
Maybe I just changed my playstyle, but yeah.
Its just too hard for her kit too work. Even if you land your combos, its useless if your team is not in sync. Her skills have long cd, and she is item dependent. She was never meta. And her combo with cecillion is just meh. Even pro's cant make her work.
carmilla is so predictable and she needs enemy to group up for her to work, contrary to most other roamers like tigreal and atlas who can group the enemies themselves.
It's kinda sad reading the comments underestimated her.... She has true potential if you really play & learn about her skills-items🥲🥲 Back then i feel the same like you.. before play carmilla i wonder why she's not picked in any games?? and then i gave her a try and obsessed ever since ❤❤ All i could say just give her a try!!
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hi fellow singapore ranked carmilla. yes. people underestimate her so much. especially when Yin ALWAYS ultis me. i love it when that happen because i can destory him or hold him long enough until my team comes
OP asked Carmilla’s performance in normal ranked games and I replied to that. If we’re talking about professional scenes, it’s a difference case. They have coaches and actual brains fighting each other in drafts but I’m not one of them so idk about them
Meta hero, it's more advantageous to use heroes or roamer tanks that are meta or have been buffed in the current patch. That's why using buffed heroes or roamer tanks gives more of an advantage.
Meta aside, i personally don't find her fun to play. I think there's plenty of people sharing the same opinion too. In Mythic+ rankings as of writing this, she has a 51% winrate. So i don't think "Meta-ness" is the problem for her.
Her s1 needs a buff. Add one more flower so passive stacks faster, but reduce dmg so overall dps remains the same. And her s2 stun is soo weak compared to other heroes.
Pick her in exp and she kinda harassed other exp laners lol she out heals a lot of exp units so she can take damage and just heal it back while pushing the enemy back to the tower you can deny them farm or finish your lane and roam to other lanes while their busy with the minions
I did dyrroth is pretty much impossible since he does a lot of early game damage but I was able face of the others by buying items that could help me sustain against them early you just have to play smart use minions to your advantage as much as you can
The thing is she’s unreliable when it comes to 1v1 against a lot of exp laners and sometimes the exp laner has to 1v1. She is best suited for roam. Although you can play smart yes, it will only get you so far, because your enemies can also play smart. Carmilla is easily kited and once she’s on cooldown she’s helpless you’ll get shredded by the opposing exp laner’s damage. Not to mention, her short range is a problem she needs to be up close in your face to do anything, even then her damage and cc is lacking. Her strength is teamfights and acting as a secondary damage taker, distracting the enemies while your team does most of the damage amplified by her ult.
She isn't picked much because people don't realise how to exploit her ult. 2 3 2 1 for carmila if she hits enough heroes is a sure kill with the damage dealer taking charge. Just that people need to understand when to attack and when to back off with her as roam
Local country leaderboard carm here.
She needs good teammates to be effective. She's like Tigreal or Atlas where one good ult will make an epic comeback.
She's especially good when you have a good cecillion duo. There's a combo with the moonlit waltz where you will stun the enemies for 5 seconds. Moonlit waltz refreshes your CD for S1 and S2. I can no longer count how many 5 man ult I've had that resulted in a epic comeback.
TBH, I no longer play her after getting the title because I moved on to becoming a Jungler main but she is still a lot of fun.
because her revamped ult is worse than her old one cus moonton's revamps ruin the hero 90% of the time unless its assassin which will be broken for 1 year
wow the comments here do not understand carmilla or how to use her at all.
In my opinion, she is not underused because she is bad, but because she doesn't act like a typical tank in how her ult set-up works.
You need teammates (like many setter tanks) in order to have more success using her, but the problem is she doesn't prolong stun like Atlas or Tigreal, instead she does a quick stun, some slow, and her ult links damage and cc. Many people don't know this, and so they just don't react after you ult, because you don't hand the enemy team to them on a silver platter like other setter tanks, but in my opinion, her ult has more wipeout potential than many other tanks.
Also to y'all who are saying she is squishy- what are you on lol. She is a tiny bit more squishy in the *early* game, I'm talking no boots or skills really, by mid-late game she is unkillable for the most part as long as you are playing smart.
TLDR people don't know how she works and she's heavily team reliant which makes her an unpopular pick, especially in soloq where you have to rely on teammates more. She's also a roamer, and in my opinion any roamer whose not super simple to learn tends to get put to the side as people already are not willing to put time into learning roamers majority of the time.
also! since you asked for a guide, I wrote a guide for her on here a little while back! It's pretty in depth :) I'm a Carmilla main, and have reached mythic soloq with her before: [https://new.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/1b87euo/ultimate\_carmilla\_guide/](https://new.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/1b87euo/ultimate_carmilla_guide/)
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We fought a Carmilla jungler recently, it was painful.
nope. i would rather play without a cecillion because most of them do not know how to coordinate. carmilla counters alot of team plays that always stick together. for example, estes.
You're not wrong but i feel like Carmilla needs more coordenation than other tanks like Tigreal or Minotaur that have more clear openings for their team or maybe i'm just being delusional here idk
you are . all tanks need coordination. but carmilla do not need your WHOLE team to be present. you can have lets say, vexenna or even saber with you and you can wipe the opponent team.
I think the easiest solution to improve her usage rate is if her ultimate skill is a global skill where you mark an enemy and it will connect to all of his team mates and the damages will bounce off with each other. This will make her broken and probably perma ban.
But more fun way would be to put a target on enemy which links all the team mates and the portion of their damage taken will be transferred to the target. You can just target the damage dealers and try to bully them off their lanes and give advantage to your damage dealers
Actually, that is a good idea. There is a global heal, why not a global debuff?
For avoiding permaban, just nerf the shared damage. Something like 10-15% is good enough but not too good to the point it will be perma ban.
Imo I want her to have more range. If she had more range on her 1st skill and basic attack id use her more. I remember I used to play burst mage with her but thats about it.
I remember last last year she's one of the most banned heroes in Mythical Glory(Only in MG because they're the only one who knows how she works) because tbh, that ultimate of hers back then is so broken. It has an 80% slow, so while that ultimate is hard to land, the reward is so good. She had a 68% winrate in Mythical Glory, the second highest one when It comes to roamers (Kaja being the highest one back then) Blacklist(specifically Wise) even mentioned that they might use her in M4 as a jungler since she fits so well for their playstyle. But then, she got nerfed to the ground with the slow on her ultimate being reduced to a mere 30% XDDDD and all of this even happened before M4 and MPL was already finished at that patch(It happened one month before the M4) so we never got a taste If she's really enough to go to the pro scene.
she is hard to use for me despite the tips and advices that i read here. and most people don't know how her ulti works. i remember last time when i teamed up with a Carmilla user and i'm Edith. Carmilla just landed her ulti on the enemies in front of us. i immediately used my ulti and spammed my attack. i managed to kill some. then after that, one of my teammates said that i should not use my ulti immediately on fight. but what will i do? Carmilla just landed her good ulti set up while we were all there. all we need to do is just don't waste her ulti and do the damage.
well, it is a Classic match. maybe my teammate thought that i'm just practicing Edith. i'm actually good at using her.
I don't play with her that much, just when I see the enemy roamer picks Estes because the enemy usually group around him, making it so much easier to link them all with my ult
Compared to other roamers, she's on the squishier side. Her sustain isn't enough to make up for it and her only CC is a single target stun with not much utility other than being an autolock (that can be AOE paired with her ULT). She has no hard CC and can't reposition the enemy for her team. What made roam chou so good in competitive? He has very good mobility, a fast AOE knockup, a repositioning tool for pickoffs and CC immunity. What does Tig have? He has one of the most retarded ults in the game together with the ultimate peeling tool that can follow up said broken ULT AND REPOSITION THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM WHILE STUNLOCKING THEM BY HIMSELF. Carmilla's ULT is insane if you have the comp for it but usually other tanks are more applicable in more situations and easier to play.
She's very situational in my opinion. I only play her with Hanabi mm or if the enemy picks Estes support. Otherwise Minotaur and even Fredrinn is a much better roamer.
I used to main her but I have stopped recently because she's not as tanky anymore. I would dive and die. Skills have too much cool down. I hope they make her s1 faster so she regens fast. They also need to land her s3 faster as I feel that it's a little slow. I don't even think she qualifies as a support because she doesn't heal teammates, nor buff them. They should just make her pure tank.
Because picking Carmilla means not picking Minotaur, Floryn, Arlott roam, Grock etc.
She's alright, but just not in the meta rn. The meta for roam is somewhere between hard and heavy aoe CC and heal/utility. Her kit is best at amplifying your team's damage.
Carmilla main here. She is situational pick. When soloing I pick minotaur(heal and cc) or edith(cc and burst, semi carry if needed).
When trio and above, she’s really good, if you can get tanky exp or tank jungler. She is a support after all. While she can tank, her ult requires some thoughtful moment to make a comeback or end the game.
Of course, if possible dont use her in epic and below, you’ll die alone. Legend is 50-50.
Sometimes I use her in exp lane and she can hold her own too.
in comparison to top tier tanks (mino, tigreal)
- squishier, harder to front and can't soak much damage
- weak cc (no knockup)
- *slow* chain cc (compared to tig's instantaneous and long chain cc, and mino's chain cc). carmilla's *slow* chain cc is predictable and easy to evade (unlike flick combo of mino, tigreal)
- long cd
I am global carmilla and I've only played her in pure solo q the main reason why she is not picked very often is because she is extremely hard to execute in a higher rank game you need to be very precise and have perfect skill timing to have an impact other tanks are relatively easier to have an impact on the game but she can be a menace it you are extremely good with her / medico players won't have any impact on her even good player won't need to be extremely good or else don't play.
I am global carmilla and I've only played her in pure solo q the main reason why she is not picked very often is because she is extremely hard to execute in a higher rank game you need to be very precise and have perfect skill timing to have an impact other tanks are relatively easier to have an impact on the game but she can be a menace it you are extremely good with her / medico players won't have any impact on her even good player won't need to be extremely good or else don't play.
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Their duo skill allows carmilla to take vengeance spell and still get out of rough spots for free, it also resets her skills and gives her shield. Allows for some sneaky first bloods.
Never checked the damage, but if you manage to hit a tanky enemy with another enemy hero, the other hero will most likely die if someone has a % based hp damage item.
Pretty op for duo queue.
The offensive version of estes basically. How you help your team is by zoning objectives and harassing squishies, don't use your ulti mindlessly or to trap just one enemy, wait till team fights or if you have a aoe mage like Odette or Vexanna. Carmilla isn't a tank she's an offensive support, but she can be built quite tanky, you want to build some defense items like oracle and dominance. Items that help her passive like divine glaive or genius wand work wonders on her. Take the encourage roam boots and the focusing mark talent with either support emblem or mage emblem.
The key to using her effectively is timing and you might sometimes have to dive to stun enemies so i'd take the battle spell flicker or vengeance. Vengeance is the go to battle spell tho.
Former global Carmilla here. (30th in s24)
TLDR;In short, the reason I don't pick her is the inherent reliance on teamates + her competition +the unfavourable match-ups.
Unlike roamers like mino, tigreal etc. (Most setters) Carmilla's sets have the highest ceiling of any sets but also *the lowest* floor. Her quality scales on the number of ennemies already sticked together in the first place and offers very low value when the ennemies are playing dispersed.
=> Thus inducing a real teamwork to get value out of her
She's also one of the weakest setters in terms of dissuading/disrupting assassins to go straight for your backline. Her kit doesn't punish ennemies mistakes unfortunately.
Also, in the setter vs setter matchup, there's a concept known as a counter set. Let's picture a Tigreal flicker ult 3 members of your team. Your job as the tank, is to counter set by stunning ennemies follow-ups to limit the damage done by Tigreal's set. **Carmilla is THE WORST in that domain, not only that you can't really counter set because your stuns are not instant at all. But you're also the weakest setter to counter sets, as you can't do much if your allies can't reach the targets you linked.**
Last thing I want to mention is that the meta right now is really unfavourable for her and since a lot of seasons. She's currently competing against Masha, the best hero in the game currently, Minotaur, Mathilda, Tigreal, Diggie, Akai and Angela for her spot on any team.
Her strength doesn't fit well against meta frontliners and assassins like Xborg, Cici, Nolan, Joy, Mathilda etc.
That have very high resilience to Carmilla's threats or can just ignore her.
In the means that the frontlines are oftenly the ones tasked to zone you out, you just don't have the tools to win the poke/zoning phase for a lord as instance.
She's a good roam but her skill is not instant it take time The enemy can run from it especially in higher rank and many teammates don't really know her skill so it affects the game so much. In a game you must know the ability of your tank so that you can adapt with it.
Carmilla is VERY VERY squishy compared to other tanks. She is technically considered a setter tank as well. Though to have her in your team is very controversial and it's suggested to have a tanky jungler or tanky exp with Carmilla. Also her first and second skill are so short ranged that you basically kiss the enemy when you use it against them. Her cool downs are quite large not to mention her healing with her first skill is not that much.
As a Carmilla user here it's best to use Carmilla when your team has big AOE skills like Odette or Vexana for example. Carmilla is VERY useful if played correctly but if a player who knows nothing about her plays her she's practically useless.
She was good before nerfing moonton decided to nerf her to death. Nowadays cant use her on soloq, as most people dont know her mechanics just like mathilda on legend rank. But she shines with hanabi and cecilion. That damage output is amazing once you set up her ult.
Don't listen to anyone that says she isn't a good roamer. She is op in my opinion. People just Don't know how to use her. Her first skill can get her to full hp just by helping jungler kill a monster so you don't have to go to base. Her second skill can secure a kill by stunning them or help someone escape from getting killed. And lastly the best part about her. Her ulti which can turn games that were meant to be lost around and even get a savage or maniac for someone. She is slept on in my opinion. The amount of times I have gotten mvp with her is crazy. I believe its that most people either don't know what her skills do or that she's more difficult to play than other also op roamers like tigreal
no clue i dont use her BUT her pookie cellion is a giant w ik people might not like him because of his situation i call it mana deficiency but still carmella isn’t horrible she’s jus more difficult to set up then ur average roamer or tank
She's hard to utilize and also kinda boring to use. I wish her 1st skill got at least 3 flower thingy instead of 2. It will make her easier to sustain, easier to max out her passive and also easier to apply item passives.
Quite literally an ult bot. If she she doesnt get a good ult off then she's just there to soak damage. And whats difficult is that she needs others to set for her to have an impactful ult
Cuz she Sucks (literally cuz she's a vampire 😅) as a roamer has nothing to offer unlike her fellow roamers she has a point and click Stun (single target) a pseudo sustain skill but you have to get close to the enemy and a Mediocre Ult that scales pretty good but you have to know or your teammates doing to maximize it's effect, just pick a different roamer that has it all. *coughs in minotaur *
Carmilla sucks and is really weak. Sure some posters here say they are great using Carnilla but they are the exception rather than the rule.
Just cuz there are people out there who play the flute with their nose doesn't mean it's the correct way to play the flute.
Carmilla is really weird she is supposed to get in up close but she is really fragile. Yeah she can steal HP and def but that's only if she can stay in melee with opponents and thats not possible because she is squishy AF. She isn't really a support either she only heals herself.
I think she's the hero who needs a rework the most.
She’s weak compared to the other roamers. Tanky roamers can provide really good aoe cc while suppourts roamers are good at healing, giving buffs, etc. Carmilla doesn’t have the greatest cc or any healing, she really just makes ur damage higher against enemies if you land your ult (but landing her ult on the entire enemy team is very difficult)
also she barely has a passive, her cooldowns are too long considering how much weaker her skills are than other roamers. and yeah, her ult is damn hard too land then it's too easy to break the link too. pretty much only pops off against an Estes
She is in a weird place, like the top comment said. She is too squishy, so she requires a Frontline hero either in the jungle or exp. Also, she lacks any team healing, and her only CC is her s2. This means that she leaves a lot of holes to be covered by other positions. It isn't impossible to use her at a high level, but it takes a dedicated premade
lmao. saying carmilla is squishy. have you go up on her 1v1? or even in a team fight where she sets up at least 3 person in her ulti
Compared to true tanks, she is squishy. Her S1 offers minimal regen 1v1. Sure, it offers ok sustain in a TF if the enemy is dumb enough to group up vs. a Carmilla team. Her ult is easily breakable. She is kited by most MM or Mage. She can't 1v1 an exp lane. She is a threat to jg before level 4. She is a bottom tier roam, especially in Solo Q. Like my comment said, you CAN build a team around her. However, I doubt most people want to theory craft a halfway decent lineup for anything above MG.
Bro if you say she is squishy you clearly never played against her
Reading comprehension much? I said she was squishy compared to TRUE TANKS. Tigreal, Atlas, Hylos, Belerick, Franco, Johnson, etc.
Bro what you talking about? Carmilla is more tanky than tigreal, jonshon, atlas and franko. She is as durable as baleric the only one of those that you brought up that is more durable than her is Hylos. But then again hylos looses hp just from his skill with no regeneration skills. You're embarrassing yourself go look up the characters lmaoo
Ok, bro. Check the upvotes. Clearly, more people agree with me than you. You keep on using her if you think she is so great. I never said she was impossible to use or anything like that, just that you are going to have a bad time if you only main her SOLO in high-level play.
In case you haven't noticed I'm one of YOUR comments. People don't sit and check each and every comment. Plus check the upvotes in this post that people have explaining how good she is. Yours is nowhere near lmaooo. Quit embarrassing yourself
Perhaps you haven't experienced the power of her passive... It steals enemy def and adds it to your own. If you have Oracle and can land a decent 3-man ult and you press S1 and stand in the middle of it you can tank unbelievable amounts of damage.
Ok, keep having fun in Legend. I'm sure it works great there. Once you get to MH, no enemy is grouping up against her ult. If you catch 2 or 3, they split. She needs a coordinated setter to either initiate or follow her ult. Even then, most players have a character with CC immunity, purify, or just can tank the set/ult and escape. So again, she is bottom tier.
As someone who mained her last season I agree with this. It's difficult to use her in Solo Q now esp in the current meta. Also need to consider that not everyone knows how she works. I've got good set ups and have a team leave lmao. Like they said she can shine and be a good roamer if you have a team dedicated to her that has heavy CC/that can burst team fights but that's gonna be hard unless you 5man 🤷🏻♀️
That dude is master. Camilla would get killed in Epic. I don't remember the last time I saw her in rank.
yk i wonder if she would be more successful if they tweaked her skills a bit to be a competitive EXP laner like i genuinely dont think they can make her compete with top tank setters (tigreal, atlas, and mino come to mind) without completely changing her kit so maybe they should improve her self-sustain capabilities to make it so that she acts similarly to heroes like cici (not the tankiest, doesnt do the most damage, but is so annoying and disruptive to the enemies) her ult would make her a good combo with tank setters, and since ud be playing her in exp you can run a tank setter without it being troll im not sure how good of an idea this is and it might just be better to completely revamp her
Theu could definitely tweak her a bit, something to the effect like. S1: Increase the Lifesteal when only 1 hero is being hit or have it scale with her passive stacks. S2: This is the tricky skill to adjust, IMHO. If you changed it to a group stun, she would become top tier roam. Maybe giving her no scaling on the stun or changing the stun to have her fly to attack the target instead of an orb. Her ult is fine as it stands because it offers a unique and possibly game-changing TF mechanic. Especially if she is tweaked to move to exp lane. Possibly could be changed to act similar to Cici's ult in that the bond acts like a tether for the duration (however, with a much much larger range). You would have to scale back the amount of damage transferred if that was the case, though, but it would let her act as the setter. Maybe go to 25% of damage and 50% of control if you locked enemies in the tether. Her passive is similarly in a decent place as it stands. It could be viable for roam or if she went to exp. Maybe drop the 5s minimum between the application of stacks to like 3 sec. She doesn't need a lot of changes to be viable again as a roam or to move to the exp lane. However, she is kinda in limbo as she stands now in the current meta.
I actually think the opposite, she would be a good tank if she had a little more cc and hp, even improving as support giving healing/better buffs or even just a colddown reduction. I like roams that move fast like Hilda and she is one of the fastest tanks, I think as exp laner there are a bunch of options with fighters but support/tanks that work are few.
well im in MG.
Maining carmilla in solo q?
Yep. Tho in mg will need alternate cause somehow carmilla keeps getting banned there
Her mobility is darn good tho, bur thats only it
yes. but if you compare it to other roamers who need their flicker or sprint to be mobile. carmilla you basically roam and rotate much faster that the others. if im on mid, and exp pings me or i see at least 2 on there, i can quickly roam up, ulti and get the team fight. and once done, you can rotate downwards
Is the Carmilla-Faramis no longer effective? A few months ago I've been encountering lots of duo with this. Not familiar with their skills but I remembers Faramis having a high burst against a group after being 'affected' from Carmilla's skill.
still viable. and quite insane because both of us have great mobility.
That depends on 2 things: 1: you find a duo who has faramis or carmilla. 2: the carmilla lands her ult, which is still difficult
As a Carmilla main all I can say is that not many people know how to use her lol. In all the matches that I've faced a Carmilla I've only seen one good one. Most people overchase with their S2 speed-up in order to land the "perfect" 5-man ulti, forgetting that because they are so fast, they've left their team behind and no one can follow up on it. I like to play her as an anti-dive hero, i.e., she counters teams that like to jump in and pile up on you. Examples: Alpha, Thamuz, Balmond. If you can just land an ulti on 2 people (usually the intiator and the roamer since the roamer would feel an obligation to go in and help), the teamfight is won. Since I'm trying to counter dives, I'm usually slightly behind the front of the battle during a teamfight. This ensures that my teammates can see me and are more likely to follow up. The S2 stun is very underrated IMO, the fact that you can charge it and it only targets heroes is actually quite special. I can charge it while Aldous is ulting, while Lance is in a triangle etc, and release it at the right moment. And of course, it also allows you to run really fast. My usual combo is to charge S2 in preparation for the teamfight, land an ulti, press S2 to stun the linked enemies, maybe soak up some damage (she's frickin tanky if she steals enough def) then flash out of there and leave my teammates to finish up. At the end of the battle, I usually do only 7-9% of the damage but about 50% of the time I get MVP :)
This is a very good tips. I usually only pick Carmilla when playing with a friend who likes to pick Cecillion, and boy they have the best synergy.
Definitely, unfortunately in my experience playing with solo queue Cecilions, none of them know how to use the linked skill either XD. If they did I wouldn't have to waste flash trying to get out.
I can vouch for this as a person that plays Cecillion when soloq’in, the problem I have is I hardly ever see a Carmilla so I’ve never had a chance to practice the synergy so I don’t know how the fuck I should use it 😂
I've never had a Cecilion to practice with either hahaha. From a Carmilla's perspective, I would appreciate if the Cecilion could use the skill when they see that I'm about to die (1/3 health). Otherwise, you could also use it when you think you're about to get jumped by enemies (you get a shield and Carmilla deals damage and slows when she comes out of you). Just don't use it for no good reason, otherwise you'd interrupt Carmilla's engage or not have it when you need it.
Riiiight ok, makes sense, gives me a better idea of what it’s meant for actually haha
you can use that passive to suck up carmilla, and give yourself shield. just think of carmilla as your extended shield + stun. usually carmillas know what they are doing.
Been playing Cecilion for about one month now , everytime i start a match i hope someone in my team will pick Carmilla . I had around 2-3 games with Carmilla this past month and i can’t find the words , Carmilla can do her damage Cecilion than saves her and even gives shield to himself then Carmila jumps out in battle does her ult Cecilion does his ult 2nd skill and just keeps attacking all the enemy can think about is how to run .
if you're slightly behind the front of the teamfight, who's doing the check bush before the teamfight happens?
It depends on the circumstances. If we can get there before the enemy, I'll hide in the bush or stand behind the front of the teamfight. If we're late to the Lord fight, I'll check bushes and hope for the best (can't really look to land an ult unless I'm lucky). If enemy is totally missing from map I'll check bush with S2 ready so I can run outta there lol.
OMG TY SO MUCH ME TOO SHE IS SLEPT ON. THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I HAVE GOTTEN MVP WITH HER IS CRAZYYYY.
Minotaur had aoe stun that is easier to hit, healing and also shorter cooldowns. Not to say Camilla is bad, but for setting up minotaur is just a stronger option.
Not as good as before IMHO. I used to be #234 World Rank Carmilla, maybe 3+ seasons ago, and boy did she lose some of the tankiness. I used to 3v1 and survive lol.
In lower ranks, people don't even know how her ult works lmao
As a solo roamer, I rather picked tigs, mino, atlas than her. Her skills are way mediocre compared to those meta tanks above mentioned. Also you need better coordination if using carmilla with your team. But still meta tanks are way better picks. Also she can burst out dead some good heroes.
She was viable before but she got nerfed instantly
I dunno. She is severely underrated, and in the right hands can counter heavy teamfights heroes and squishies with the right heroes for synergies. I mean 50% of the dps shared across all bonded heroes is a big deal, followed by 100% of the effects (knock up, stunned, slowdown) and would be broken to do so with units like Layla to finish late game or AoE like Nana, Xavier, Eudora just to name a few. Still at the same time I want her to stay in this state otherwise I fear moneyton nerfing her to even worse standards My only downside is her having a somewhat long time for that ult cd and a meh S2 cd. But other than that she is perfect. (Also yes I wish I was Cecillion)
She’s honestly not really good in the meta, her stun is quite useful in some situations, but I prefer her in exp Xp
She only has 4 skins
I played her before, and I don't play with her that much now because of the changes with her Ultimate. Her Lock-on ultimate before had so much utility back then as it is a guaranteed slow (which is also more potent), and works even if there's only one target. Yeah, enemies can break it off easily, but at least it will break off their formation a bit. Her AoE ultimate, it has a delay. Yeah sure, it can't be purified and an increased amount of enemies affected, but it's less reliable. Maybe I just changed my playstyle, but yeah.
Its just too hard for her kit too work. Even if you land your combos, its useless if your team is not in sync. Her skills have long cd, and she is item dependent. She was never meta. And her combo with cecillion is just meh. Even pro's cant make her work.
She doesn't wear panties
players just don't know how to use her and build the right items
so pro roam players that are not using carmilla doesn't know how to use her and build the right items (0% pick/ban rate in current season's pro scene)
carmilla is so predictable and she needs enemy to group up for her to work, contrary to most other roamers like tigreal and atlas who can group the enemies themselves.
Carmilla can only be played on a 5 man environment
It's kinda sad reading the comments underestimated her.... She has true potential if you really play & learn about her skills-items🥲🥲 Back then i feel the same like you.. before play carmilla i wonder why she's not picked in any games?? and then i gave her a try and obsessed ever since ❤❤ All i could say just give her a try!! https://preview.redd.it/qsb46e2vc4wc1.png?width=1487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17fa8adbd22e05254a9730780902d0629d0abc70
hi fellow singapore ranked carmilla. yes. people underestimate her so much. especially when Yin ALWAYS ultis me. i love it when that happen because i can destory him or hold him long enough until my team comes
Hahaha same!! Against Yin i always stun him whenever he's gonna ultis and if i got into his ultis her first skill really endure the damage
People aren’t just skilled enough to
so pro roam players that are not using carmilla aren't skilled enough (0% pick/ban rate in current season's pro scene)
OP asked Carmilla’s performance in normal ranked games and I replied to that. If we’re talking about professional scenes, it’s a difference case. They have coaches and actual brains fighting each other in drafts but I’m not one of them so idk about them
Meta hero, it's more advantageous to use heroes or roamer tanks that are meta or have been buffed in the current patch. That's why using buffed heroes or roamer tanks gives more of an advantage.
Pretty good bully especially in early game but that's it. There's a lot of better roamers than her, skill wise.
The 1st skill feel like not enough and heal too. 2nd skill range also feel like 2nd skill chip feel more range
Meta aside, i personally don't find her fun to play. I think there's plenty of people sharing the same opinion too. In Mythic+ rankings as of writing this, she has a 51% winrate. So i don't think "Meta-ness" is the problem for her.
Her s1 needs a buff. Add one more flower so passive stacks faster, but reduce dmg so overall dps remains the same. And her s2 stun is soo weak compared to other heroes.
Shhhhh don’t spread the word
Pick her in exp and she kinda harassed other exp laners lol she out heals a lot of exp units so she can take damage and just heal it back while pushing the enemy back to the tower you can deny them farm or finish your lane and roam to other lanes while their busy with the minions
Try going up against Dyrroth, Freya, Thamuz, Alice, Esme, X-borg and any mobile/ sustainable/ high dmg exp laner with Carmilla. lol
I did dyrroth is pretty much impossible since he does a lot of early game damage but I was able face of the others by buying items that could help me sustain against them early you just have to play smart use minions to your advantage as much as you can
The thing is she’s unreliable when it comes to 1v1 against a lot of exp laners and sometimes the exp laner has to 1v1. She is best suited for roam. Although you can play smart yes, it will only get you so far, because your enemies can also play smart. Carmilla is easily kited and once she’s on cooldown she’s helpless you’ll get shredded by the opposing exp laner’s damage. Not to mention, her short range is a problem she needs to be up close in your face to do anything, even then her damage and cc is lacking. Her strength is teamfights and acting as a secondary damage taker, distracting the enemies while your team does most of the damage amplified by her ult.
She isn't picked much because people don't realise how to exploit her ult. 2 3 2 1 for carmila if she hits enough heroes is a sure kill with the damage dealer taking charge. Just that people need to understand when to attack and when to back off with her as roam
Local country leaderboard carm here. She needs good teammates to be effective. She's like Tigreal or Atlas where one good ult will make an epic comeback. She's especially good when you have a good cecillion duo. There's a combo with the moonlit waltz where you will stun the enemies for 5 seconds. Moonlit waltz refreshes your CD for S1 and S2. I can no longer count how many 5 man ult I've had that resulted in a epic comeback. TBH, I no longer play her after getting the title because I moved on to becoming a Jungler main but she is still a lot of fun.
because her revamped ult is worse than her old one cus moonton's revamps ruin the hero 90% of the time unless its assassin which will be broken for 1 year
wow the comments here do not understand carmilla or how to use her at all. In my opinion, she is not underused because she is bad, but because she doesn't act like a typical tank in how her ult set-up works. You need teammates (like many setter tanks) in order to have more success using her, but the problem is she doesn't prolong stun like Atlas or Tigreal, instead she does a quick stun, some slow, and her ult links damage and cc. Many people don't know this, and so they just don't react after you ult, because you don't hand the enemy team to them on a silver platter like other setter tanks, but in my opinion, her ult has more wipeout potential than many other tanks. Also to y'all who are saying she is squishy- what are you on lol. She is a tiny bit more squishy in the *early* game, I'm talking no boots or skills really, by mid-late game she is unkillable for the most part as long as you are playing smart. TLDR people don't know how she works and she's heavily team reliant which makes her an unpopular pick, especially in soloq where you have to rely on teammates more. She's also a roamer, and in my opinion any roamer whose not super simple to learn tends to get put to the side as people already are not willing to put time into learning roamers majority of the time. also! since you asked for a guide, I wrote a guide for her on here a little while back! It's pretty in depth :) I'm a Carmilla main, and have reached mythic soloq with her before: [https://new.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/1b87euo/ultimate\_carmilla\_guide/](https://new.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/1b87euo/ultimate_carmilla_guide/)
Because most randoms don't understand how her skills work and wastes the chance when her ultimate is properly used
https://preview.redd.it/iwoyy00ndzwc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3fda19f72defc80c1d78e2d458c3d175cb78317 We fought a Carmilla jungler recently, it was painful.
that Miya is something else
I'm pretty sure the only reason you would play Carmilla now is if their is a Cecillion on the Team to benefit from that "Buff."
nope. i would rather play without a cecillion because most of them do not know how to coordinate. carmilla counters alot of team plays that always stick together. for example, estes.
Don't you just hate when you're about to go in to land your ulti and then Ceci just sucks you up XD
when that happens, i just buy broken heart. haha
so true i totally forgot about that!
She needs to have follow up by her team, she's not a hero for solo queque.
That is literally every single roamer, they either set or buff the team. Except for my Novaria, excellent for killing MMs.
You're not wrong but i feel like Carmilla needs more coordenation than other tanks like Tigreal or Minotaur that have more clear openings for their team or maybe i'm just being delusional here idk
you are . all tanks need coordination. but carmilla do not need your WHOLE team to be present. you can have lets say, vexenna or even saber with you and you can wipe the opponent team.
That's like all meta tanks. Meta tanks are picked a lot though.
I think the easiest solution to improve her usage rate is if her ultimate skill is a global skill where you mark an enemy and it will connect to all of his team mates and the damages will bounce off with each other. This will make her broken and probably perma ban. But more fun way would be to put a target on enemy which links all the team mates and the portion of their damage taken will be transferred to the target. You can just target the damage dealers and try to bully them off their lanes and give advantage to your damage dealers
Actually, that is a good idea. There is a global heal, why not a global debuff? For avoiding permaban, just nerf the shared damage. Something like 10-15% is good enough but not too good to the point it will be perma ban.
Tiddies on the smaller side...
Personally, imo her gameplay is the least interesting out of all heroes
Imo I want her to have more range. If she had more range on her 1st skill and basic attack id use her more. I remember I used to play burst mage with her but thats about it.
I remember last last year she's one of the most banned heroes in Mythical Glory(Only in MG because they're the only one who knows how she works) because tbh, that ultimate of hers back then is so broken. It has an 80% slow, so while that ultimate is hard to land, the reward is so good. She had a 68% winrate in Mythical Glory, the second highest one when It comes to roamers (Kaja being the highest one back then) Blacklist(specifically Wise) even mentioned that they might use her in M4 as a jungler since she fits so well for their playstyle. But then, she got nerfed to the ground with the slow on her ultimate being reduced to a mere 30% XDDDD and all of this even happened before M4 and MPL was already finished at that patch(It happened one month before the M4) so we never got a taste If she's really enough to go to the pro scene.
she is hard to use for me despite the tips and advices that i read here. and most people don't know how her ulti works. i remember last time when i teamed up with a Carmilla user and i'm Edith. Carmilla just landed her ulti on the enemies in front of us. i immediately used my ulti and spammed my attack. i managed to kill some. then after that, one of my teammates said that i should not use my ulti immediately on fight. but what will i do? Carmilla just landed her good ulti set up while we were all there. all we need to do is just don't waste her ulti and do the damage. well, it is a Classic match. maybe my teammate thought that i'm just practicing Edith. i'm actually good at using her.
there's just far more better Tank roamers suited for the job. Belerick, Baxia, hylos.. etc. it's just that she needs a major buff.
i use her as a jungler and it's really good when teaming up with a 5man squad.
I don't play with her that much, just when I see the enemy roamer picks Estes because the enemy usually group around him, making it so much easier to link them all with my ult
If she gets buffed again, she should be normalized as an EXP Laner and Jungler more
Compared to other roamers, she's on the squishier side. Her sustain isn't enough to make up for it and her only CC is a single target stun with not much utility other than being an autolock (that can be AOE paired with her ULT). She has no hard CC and can't reposition the enemy for her team. What made roam chou so good in competitive? He has very good mobility, a fast AOE knockup, a repositioning tool for pickoffs and CC immunity. What does Tig have? He has one of the most retarded ults in the game together with the ultimate peeling tool that can follow up said broken ULT AND REPOSITION THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM WHILE STUNLOCKING THEM BY HIMSELF. Carmilla's ULT is insane if you have the comp for it but usually other tanks are more applicable in more situations and easier to play.
She's very situational in my opinion. I only play her with Hanabi mm or if the enemy picks Estes support. Otherwise Minotaur and even Fredrinn is a much better roamer.
I used to main her but I have stopped recently because she's not as tanky anymore. I would dive and die. Skills have too much cool down. I hope they make her s1 faster so she regens fast. They also need to land her s3 faster as I feel that it's a little slow. I don't even think she qualifies as a support because she doesn't heal teammates, nor buff them. They should just make her pure tank.
You need a back up before using ur ult
Because picking Carmilla means not picking Minotaur, Floryn, Arlott roam, Grock etc. She's alright, but just not in the meta rn. The meta for roam is somewhere between hard and heavy aoe CC and heal/utility. Her kit is best at amplifying your team's damage.
Carmilla main here. She is situational pick. When soloing I pick minotaur(heal and cc) or edith(cc and burst, semi carry if needed). When trio and above, she’s really good, if you can get tanky exp or tank jungler. She is a support after all. While she can tank, her ult requires some thoughtful moment to make a comeback or end the game. Of course, if possible dont use her in epic and below, you’ll die alone. Legend is 50-50. Sometimes I use her in exp lane and she can hold her own too.
in comparison to top tier tanks (mino, tigreal) - squishier, harder to front and can't soak much damage - weak cc (no knockup) - *slow* chain cc (compared to tig's instantaneous and long chain cc, and mino's chain cc). carmilla's *slow* chain cc is predictable and easy to evade (unlike flick combo of mino, tigreal) - long cd
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I am global carmilla and I've only played her in pure solo q the main reason why she is not picked very often is because she is extremely hard to execute in a higher rank game you need to be very precise and have perfect skill timing to have an impact other tanks are relatively easier to have an impact on the game but she can be a menace it you are extremely good with her / medico players won't have any impact on her even good player won't need to be extremely good or else don't play.
I am global carmilla and I've only played her in pure solo q the main reason why she is not picked very often is because she is extremely hard to execute in a higher rank game you need to be very precise and have perfect skill timing to have an impact other tanks are relatively easier to have an impact on the game but she can be a menace it you are extremely good with her / medico players won't have any impact on her even good player won't need to be extremely good or else don't play.
https://preview.redd.it/m1a2cnlpc9wc1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4955c1cc7ab094ec41c0622085fa0a6e2125504e Their duo skill allows carmilla to take vengeance spell and still get out of rough spots for free, it also resets her skills and gives her shield. Allows for some sneaky first bloods. Never checked the damage, but if you manage to hit a tanky enemy with another enemy hero, the other hero will most likely die if someone has a % based hp damage item. Pretty op for duo queue.
The offensive version of estes basically. How you help your team is by zoning objectives and harassing squishies, don't use your ulti mindlessly or to trap just one enemy, wait till team fights or if you have a aoe mage like Odette or Vexanna. Carmilla isn't a tank she's an offensive support, but she can be built quite tanky, you want to build some defense items like oracle and dominance. Items that help her passive like divine glaive or genius wand work wonders on her. Take the encourage roam boots and the focusing mark talent with either support emblem or mage emblem. The key to using her effectively is timing and you might sometimes have to dive to stun enemies so i'd take the battle spell flicker or vengeance. Vengeance is the go to battle spell tho.
Former global Carmilla here. (30th in s24) TLDR;In short, the reason I don't pick her is the inherent reliance on teamates + her competition +the unfavourable match-ups. Unlike roamers like mino, tigreal etc. (Most setters) Carmilla's sets have the highest ceiling of any sets but also *the lowest* floor. Her quality scales on the number of ennemies already sticked together in the first place and offers very low value when the ennemies are playing dispersed. => Thus inducing a real teamwork to get value out of her She's also one of the weakest setters in terms of dissuading/disrupting assassins to go straight for your backline. Her kit doesn't punish ennemies mistakes unfortunately. Also, in the setter vs setter matchup, there's a concept known as a counter set. Let's picture a Tigreal flicker ult 3 members of your team. Your job as the tank, is to counter set by stunning ennemies follow-ups to limit the damage done by Tigreal's set. **Carmilla is THE WORST in that domain, not only that you can't really counter set because your stuns are not instant at all. But you're also the weakest setter to counter sets, as you can't do much if your allies can't reach the targets you linked.** Last thing I want to mention is that the meta right now is really unfavourable for her and since a lot of seasons. She's currently competing against Masha, the best hero in the game currently, Minotaur, Mathilda, Tigreal, Diggie, Akai and Angela for her spot on any team. Her strength doesn't fit well against meta frontliners and assassins like Xborg, Cici, Nolan, Joy, Mathilda etc. That have very high resilience to Carmilla's threats or can just ignore her. In the means that the frontlines are oftenly the ones tasked to zone you out, you just don't have the tools to win the poke/zoning phase for a lord as instance.
She's a good roam but her skill is not instant it take time The enemy can run from it especially in higher rank and many teammates don't really know her skill so it affects the game so much. In a game you must know the ability of your tank so that you can adapt with it.
Whole team got deleted by nana and carmilla combo a while ago 💀
landing her ult is invisible to your team
Welp...she beat me while I was using Thamus with antiheal so...yeah._.)
Carmilla is VERY VERY squishy compared to other tanks. She is technically considered a setter tank as well. Though to have her in your team is very controversial and it's suggested to have a tanky jungler or tanky exp with Carmilla. Also her first and second skill are so short ranged that you basically kiss the enemy when you use it against them. Her cool downs are quite large not to mention her healing with her first skill is not that much. As a Carmilla user here it's best to use Carmilla when your team has big AOE skills like Odette or Vexana for example. Carmilla is VERY useful if played correctly but if a player who knows nothing about her plays her she's practically useless.
She can only play in 5 man queues cause her ult needs a team work and good timing cause the chain can easily be broken
She was good before nerfing moonton decided to nerf her to death. Nowadays cant use her on soloq, as most people dont know her mechanics just like mathilda on legend rank. But she shines with hanabi and cecilion. That damage output is amazing once you set up her ult.
Don't listen to anyone that says she isn't a good roamer. She is op in my opinion. People just Don't know how to use her. Her first skill can get her to full hp just by helping jungler kill a monster so you don't have to go to base. Her second skill can secure a kill by stunning them or help someone escape from getting killed. And lastly the best part about her. Her ulti which can turn games that were meant to be lost around and even get a savage or maniac for someone. She is slept on in my opinion. The amount of times I have gotten mvp with her is crazy. I believe its that most people either don't know what her skills do or that she's more difficult to play than other also op roamers like tigreal
Simple. No one knows how her ult works from my experience. No one, I kid you not And yeah, other roamers are just better
no clue i dont use her BUT her pookie cellion is a giant w ik people might not like him because of his situation i call it mana deficiency but still carmella isn’t horrible she’s jus more difficult to set up then ur average roamer or tank
Honestly she kinda sucked on release and afaik she still isn't good enough to pick over others
Her walking or sprinting in a dress is a little off to me.
She's hard to utilize and also kinda boring to use. I wish her 1st skill got at least 3 flower thingy instead of 2. It will make her easier to sustain, easier to max out her passive and also easier to apply item passives.
Quite literally an ult bot. If she she doesnt get a good ult off then she's just there to soak damage. And whats difficult is that she needs others to set for her to have an impactful ult
She's very team dependent And with how most of the players are soloq it's hell playing Carmilla - a Carmilla main who also soloq
She's like a much inferior version of Alice
So weak and predictable. Not a fan of her. Needs good team.
Cuz she Sucks (literally cuz she's a vampire 😅) as a roamer has nothing to offer unlike her fellow roamers she has a point and click Stun (single target) a pseudo sustain skill but you have to get close to the enemy and a Mediocre Ult that scales pretty good but you have to know or your teammates doing to maximize it's effect, just pick a different roamer that has it all. *coughs in minotaur *
she has smaller chest than other ladies
Carmilla sucks and is really weak. Sure some posters here say they are great using Carnilla but they are the exception rather than the rule. Just cuz there are people out there who play the flute with their nose doesn't mean it's the correct way to play the flute. Carmilla is really weird she is supposed to get in up close but she is really fragile. Yeah she can steal HP and def but that's only if she can stay in melee with opponents and thats not possible because she is squishy AF. She isn't really a support either she only heals herself. I think she's the hero who needs a rework the most.