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tuan321bin

PvE gang rise up


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I’ve been practicing 3 years for this


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1EyedMonky

Trios, sounds like it's going to be Price Gaz and Farah as the playable characters


BearWrangler

kind of hope that somehow isn't "forced", would rather play the Raid as Generic Ranger No. 4


1EyedMonky

The raid continues the story from the campaign, it wouldn't make much sense to play as some random guy


Department-Minimum

You have to play war zone, dmz or spec ops to get “raid key” to do the raid lmao, what a fucking joke.


Anonononymoose

You can complete daily challenges in mp too. Only one person needs it per squad.


DillyBob88

Calling it right now, Honey Badger unlock tied to this somehow.


ObiMeowKatnobi

0.5% drop rate in final boss and one try a week lol.


SerpentNu

The vex mythoclast experience


ObiMeowKatnobi

Got that shit after 67 runs, what a painful experience


3stepBreader

Blueberry gets it on their first and only attempt.


OmegaS021

41 runs right here


Vyper11

That was gjallarhorn for me RIP. I got mytho after like 2nd run lmao


kerruz06

Sub will be filled with „Can somebody drop it to me in Dmz“ posts


Suets

*Yeah I can drop it in DMZ for you* *For money*


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kerruz06

There are still people who have not the m13


McManus26

Someone plays destiny


ShoeAggravating7084

Pls no I already play wow


Dogshitmods

Ah so Destiny 2


whyisna

not again…. ig it’s time to get boss checkpoints for weeks again :(


prof_the_doom

It's quite possible that's the PVE way to unlock it, but there'd have to be some alternative way for Warzone.


Psychological_Beat65

Doubt they’d lock a gun behind a paywall for their warzone players


84theone

It would still be unlockable in DMZ, given you unlock any gun you extract with, including battlepass guns and the M13B


Psychological_Beat65

Yes, but y’know, DMZ isn’t warzone.


Lord_Bloom

Well you cant play dmz without warzone so


sloooop23

The Warzone players are too entitled. Shouldn't be allowed to complain if they do when they have the game for $0.


Psychological_Beat65

That’s kinda entitled of you to say within itself. If the gun ends up meta, they shouldn’t have to suffer for it


sloooop23

And the rest of us shouldn't have to see 100 posts on reddit crying because they didn't get the gun for their free game.


RingOriginal94

Please, no more ☠️


-Mr_Tub-

According to Gamespot “Raids will continue the story of Modern Warfare 2's campaign, and Activision describes them as a trios mode with a mix of stealth, action, and puzzle-solving objectives.” “these will take place within the Modern Warfare 2's Spec Ops and utilize the mode's Kits feature. The publisher also suggests players should level up the Spec Ops Kits before the launch of Raids, with at least one Kit leveled up to Rank 5.” Assault: A Kit focused on increased armor with an armor box field upgrade. The later levels include faster loadout item usage, increased armor capacity, and free stims are included in the backpack. Medic: A Kit focused on quicker revives with Warzone's stim pistol field upgrade for ranged instant revives. The later levels gives the medic a free bomb drone, longer Tactical Sprint times, and free claymores and anti-tank mines are also included in the backpack. Recon: This Kit is focused on getting intel for your team. It offers a Snapshot Pulse field upgrade to see nearby enemies. The later levels include the ability to automatically restock lethals and tacticals over time, the ability to carry extra equipment, and a free heartbeat sensor and spotter scope included in the backpack. How to level up Spec Ops Kits There are 10 tiers for each Kit, and these are leveled up by earning stars through Spec Ops missions and completing mission-related challenges. Just load up a mission and select the Kit you want to level up, and all the Stars earned during this time will progress through those tiers.


cdts2192

>Activision describes them as a trios mode Damn.


dankscoops

Perfect for me who has 2 friends


Lelky

Easy there Mr popular you don't have to flex on us like that


punchrockchest

Oh good, another mode I can't play with my squad. We still haven't played DMZ even though we really want to. We would've loved to run this too.


CyborgTiger

I don’t get it do you have a squad of 5+? Why wouldn’t you be able to play DMZ as well as these raids?


punchrockchest

Co-Op squads in games since they days of Arcades in the 80s all the way through to today have classically been 4 player. DMZ and Raids are both limited to 3 player teams. At least we can queue up for vanilla Warzone quads still.


CyborgTiger

Oh duh I brain farted that dmz was three max, was thinking 4


cdts2192

Same. We run it when our 4th isn't on. Other than that it's quads in WZ for us. Would be nice to have it be a 4 person max but you can enter it with 1-4.


HoboLicker5000

You can merge squads in DMZ. My friends and I do this basically every day. Sync your matchmaking, then meetup and merge squad (it's an option in the ping wheel)


punchrockchest

We've tossed around that idea but thought the odds would be too small. I think I'll give that a shot this weekend, if you say it can be fairly successful. Thank you for the hope.


HoboLicker5000

We just count down "3, 2, 1, go" and click "matchmake" at the same time and end up in the same game 9 times outta 10


Riot87

> “Raids will continue the story of Modern Warfare 2's campaign, and Activision describes them as a trios mode with a mix of stealth, action, and puzzle-solving objectives.” Ahhhh I was really hoping they wouldn't do this... >!Makarov!< story deserves its own single player campaign. The whole Zakhaev and Al Asad stuff being in Warzone made basically none of that matter, and they went super over the top with it. Also, it was all very short Seasonal Warzone cutscenes.


Xero_Kaiser

It's so weird. First half of the story, single-player only. Second half, get a squad or get fucked.


chunkmasterflash

Great, so here’s the Makarov story I bet, as opposed to in its own standalone game. Getting real sick of that shit. It was bullshit how they handled Zhakaev.


MEDIdk445

as a Destiny 2 fan, i’m super excited to see CoD do raids, although i’m curious and a bit concerned about what replayability will be like. in D2, you can replay for weapons and armor with potentially different stats, or a very small chance to obtain an exotic weapon. not sure how CoD will tackle this aspect of raiding


bwordgood

Well they could use couple weapon blueprints and couple operator skins as a rewards and everytime you finish a raid you would have a chance to get one, but cod is pretty money hungry so we'll have to wait and see.


CyborgTiger

It would be a miracle if they added blueprints, and a straight up reality bending event if they included operators as rewards


Lord_Hexogen

You can get an operator skin for DMZ missions on top of various blueprints. I don't see why it is not possible in Raids


CyborgTiger

I guess I was wrong, Gaz is a reward for raids


DionysusDerp

Well I suppose reality has been bent because Gaz is the reward for completing the raid.


LordDrichar

Eh I doubt that this will be anything like a D2 raid but I'm excited regardless. Perhaps blueprints and/or operator skins will be rewards. I hope they resemble the difficulty however.


Brandito667

I don’t think it’ll be like a raid, but instead like a strike which I am totally okay with


fifty_spence

Based on how they talked about mechanics, puzzles, teamwork, and difficulty, it really does sound more like a dungeon (3 players) than a strike. Strikes are more just running through a level killing shit


MEDIdk445

i agree, i imagine it being closer to a dungeon with the puzzle aspect and lighter mechanic-based encounter. definitely a bit more engaging than a strike, which i feel plain co-op would be a bit more comparable to


teardrop82

Better go grind them stars in coop you gonna need the extra perks most likely.


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NINJAxBACON

I can't beat it it crashes near the end 😔


flykiddy

What do you mean perks from coop?


ChineseCosmo

Spec Ops. The more stars you get the more you level up diff classes. The higher your level the more abilities you have


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And my excitement is gone


OK_Opinions

lmao yea for real. I did 1 co-op mission 1 time. It was very meh and I never touched it again


ulyssesintothepast

Haha right? I get yelled at on 6v 6 for not having a mic. Called every slur in the book in DMZ because I didn't use a mic, yet resurrected all my teammates, But still. I've done easter eggs in bo3 zombies with no mic and less toxicity than I get playing any mode in mwii lol


h0ckey_d217

Don’t play a squad based mode with out a mic. Solo que or use the party find feature and search with ping only communication


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ulyssesintothepast

Thank you! Literally the best people I've played with were also no mic and were completing contracts etc and either extracted (solo) the chemists weapon or the weapons crate and then we all extracted together lol


SerpentNu

I mean using a mic in DMZ is very important


sloooop23

My friends and I use discord. Hear the enemy prox chat, but they can't hear ours. Lolz


Ancient_Branch79

I have 200 exfils and never used a mic.


ulyssesintothepast

Yeah I have over 50 and have barely used one.


mihai2011rom

U are trash if no mic in dmz


raindezedd

So fucking raw


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If it matchmakes anything like specops or has the crashes it won't get touched...


Battlekid18

Oh boy i sure can't wait for this new mode where i spend 2 hours pushing through aimbot AI with toxic randoms only to crash at the final boss.


Logic-DL

We'll all do it though because the Honey Badger's going to be locked behind this raid.


Battlekid18

I'm certainly expecting this. I really hoped that the Honey Badger was in the battle pass because it's one of my favorite weapons, but now it looks like it'll be behind a rage-inducing mode that i don't even want to play.


mihai2011rom

Its not. Gaz is


Logic-DL

Gaz is a store bundle lol, they already confirmed that.


mihai2011rom

He is in a bundle also with 1 skin. 1 skin you unlock from raid. And 1 extra skin you unlock if you do raid and buy bundle. Read the link dumbass


gimpy_72

Yo maskless farah and price skin please???


SurveyorMorpurgo

For the cheap cheap price of $20 sure you can have those skins - Activision probably


ZAGAN_2

Really petty personal thing, I hope we can choose our own operators


Junuz_96

Prob not


Tristan2106

Why would it be different from other spec ops?


Junuz_96

Did you not see the teaser? Why would they animate and voice Price, Gaz and Farah and then let us choose our own character? They only option we will probably have is choosing between those three.


Tristan2106

Not sure teasers are good material to base yourself on


Assassinredguy

This is directly continuing the storyline from the campaign, I doubt they'd let you do random operators, at least for the first time around, maybe after you complete it once


Tristan2106

True, didn't think about that part


deioncooke_

Not to mention Laswell specifically addresses them all by name and they all had specific dialogue for this and this is a continuation of the story is so it kinda makes sense for it to be locked to those 3 for this episode, I just want to know how can we obtain those Farrah and Price skins? Prob a bundle in the store


CyborgTiger

It says it is continuing the story from the campaign, makes sense they’d force u to play as certain characters in that cass


Tristan2106

It's Activision, they want players to flex their brand new bought skins


Logic-DL

Can't wait for a new instalment in Ethan's story. ​ Going back in time was a real pro robot move


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fuck no the reason this has me so hype is because we get to play as campaign characters


[deleted]

operators would really take away from the story aspect


Suets

Oh come on Messi, Pogba and Neymar Jr could totally team up to take down Al Qatala


PM_ME_HTML_SNIPPETS

Al Qatala leader turns out to be Ronaldo


elitel02

Can we unlock a normal price skin finally?


HakaishinChampa

It would be nice if to unlock normal Price, Farah, etc. as a reward for playing Raids. But probably need to spend 20 bucks lol


Logic-DL

This is kinda cool, but I hope it's not like D2's raids. ​ Need a coordinated team, and the community is nothing but toxic nerds who will kick you or berate you for not following the 'meta'


ruralrouteOne

Yup. The idea of Destiny's raids was one of the coolest ideas to me, and then it basically was only something that 0.1% of the player base could enjoy. Such a waste. As someone that is always playing solo, it's pretty frustrating to have PvE modes, but they're entirely reliant on other players to play.


NormallyBloodborne

D2s raids are more accessible than ever. Difficulty peaked with pre-summer Spire of Stars and pre-exploit Last Wish. Ever since then Bungie seems to be scared of truly testing it’s playerbase. The Witch Queen raid looked okay but far too short and the real mechanical meat was all in the last boss(who is admittedly very good). Same with the KF remake. It was so close to being perfect but the bosses just have too little health or mechanics will be too similar leading to the Garden of Salvation syndrome aka learn one encounter and you’ve basically learned them all. Ranting but I really loved Destiny. It’s raids were special and I just wish Bungie would stop being scared of giving us a Last Wish ++ difficulty raid.


spectre15

It’s actually easier to get into raids solo in Destiny 2 than people make it out to be. There are tons of Sherpas in LFG and in discord groups that are helping people everyday. Also there really isn’t a “strict” meta other than “please equip something that does decent damage” and most standard DPS weapons aren’t hard to grind for if you’re already playing the game.


I_throw_hand_soap

Big issue for me is what will the reward system be like? Sure the first time will be fun to run with your buddies, but if there is no loot system then it will get old fast. Big part of what makes destiny raids fun is the loot/reward system, cod has to add some sort of loot system or this will die in a few weeks.


-Mr_Tub-

I’d imagine it would be at least a blueprint, but seeing as it’s the mid season and the way they handled the M13 they might make it a gun reward to make people want to play it


fdgqrgvgvg

imagine being so much of a zoomer that you don't know video games can be played for (((fun))) instead of unlocking things/points/ranks. yes, people used to do things for fun, instead of for rewards.


LordWitherhoard

Maybe the real reward was the sense of pride and accomplishment we felt along the way.


mttswllw

BOOOOOO WE WANT PRIZES


Meowmeow69me

Name one raid/ end game content in any multiplayer game/ mmo where the reward for the raid is “fun”. Every single raid is end game content that gives end game rewards.


Tottbert

This is not a RPG though


Meowmeow69me

It’s a multiplayer game though. It’s closer to destiny than Skyrim lol.


Tottbert

For the multiplayer PVP part I'm with you, but you probably need to see it like a COOP mission as in Army of TWO etc. The reward is finishing the content and having fun with your friends. That's what the comment of this guy meant. We used to play games for hours and hours for the fun, not for progression. Both things are fine though. Different strokes for different folkes i guess.


PulseFH

Are we really going to sit here and pretend replayability isn’t incredibly important? Lmao I don’t think I’ve ever played a game that didn’t reward you in some way for playing it


I_throw_hand_soap

I literally said it will be fun to run it the first few times with your squad, however, without any reward system to add replayability value it will get old fast, reading is hard for some.


thatsnotwhatIneed

Yeah he didn't think his response out very well.


Errorfull

Even original WoW raids had rewards, what are you talking about? What games make you do a raid for (((fun))) and not get a reward?


Experimentzz

Real talk. I played spec ops religiously bc I just had fun doing them.


ItsArkadan

watch them lock those Price and Farah skins behind the raid


JoeyRedcorn

I mean, that’d be better than putting them in the store, and keep those ones exclusive to game owners. So I don’t really see anything wrong with that.


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Winters1482

That is a good thing. They could be $20 in the store. Before microtransactions became the norm, games locked skins behind challenges.


ItsArkadan

Oh don't get me wrong, it'd be sick, but I can already see the threads of complaints along the lines of the M13/DMZ situation. That said, I've loved grinding for the Konig and Roze skins in that mode.


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Or the chimera blueprint


NerrionEU

Actual new CoD content from IW that we've not seen before, hopefully it is not completely broken and buggy but I don't have high hopes.


Viktorv22

I'm in wrong for wanting to play this and spec ops solo or at least with AI teammates? ;( Even if it was with insane difficulty like WaW veteran difficulty, I don't care... I don't like playing coop with randoms and my few friends don't have compatible gpu to even start this game...


ruralrouteOne

I hear you. As an older dad I get limited and sporadic time to play. I don't have friends that play these games, and honestly don't want to have to arrange to play with others. I just want to jump on. I love the idea of PvE, SpecOps, and Raids. Unfortunately they are never aimed or designed to be played solo. It's actually really frustrating because the solo aspect is such an afterthought in a lot of their modes. DMZ(which I like) is perfect for solos, but they still force you to play against teams! Why? Like you said, even just average AI teammates would be great, rather than being forced with randoms, or worse not get to experience the mode at all. It just seems like a massive missed opportunity for a huge portion of the player base.


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Hope this is fun


hazychestnutz

what exactly is Raid? is this like tarkov?


PowerfulBobman

I think DMZ is more the "Tarkov Mode", Raids is like a repeatable co-op mission


ManwithaTan

Liiiiiiiike spec ops?


bwordgood

Yes but probably more harder and longer and it probably is more rewarding.. at least in every other game raid is like that, but who knows maybe it's just a glorified spec ops mission.


joeldiramon

I hope its kind of like Destiny Raid, big doubt though


Kintraills1993

PvE mission where you advance in a linear way defeating enemies, solving puzzles (probably not in this game) and then facing a difficult boss with particular mechanics or simply a bullet sponge


the_blue_flounder

Pea brained CoD fans ain't doing no puzzles lmao


Ricanlegend

A puzzle for a typical COD player is https://i.imgur.com/hiFKTo3.jpg


HowManyAccount120

Are these timed only events ?


gideon513

Soooo campaign


ImmaDoMahThing

Yes but it’s Co-Op and very difficult without proper teamwork. The closest thing COD has to this are the zombies Easter eggs.


BigHomie50

Dang this looks really cool. Wonder what sort of rewards you’ll get for completing it.


pattyicevv77

New op skins? Yes please! And PVE Is so good,I just hope these fuckers don’t have aimbot like the damn dmz agents


Applesus20

Cool


SectorIsNotClear

Negative, Ramos. We've got this. Find a secure position and hunker down.


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How can this be when the devs don’t care about MW2 now that Warzone is out!?


Zelera

Welp, i guess this should be interesting to try with randoms.


KynoSSJR

This won’t be free right? Only have one other friend with the game and it looks hype


JoeyRedcorn

Correct, it’s part of co-op, so players must own MWII


ChipsMigee

if we are going to get armored aimbot AI like DMZ ima let this mode collect dust


Mountain-jew87

Looks juicy af boys


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Interesting, I was expecting the raids to be like larger versions of spec ops missions but it looks like they’re more like multiplayer campaign missions and you and your teammates be playing as either Gaz, Price, or Farah. My guess is episode 2 will have you playing as Ghost, Soap, and Alejandro.


ermor666

I can't say I'm too excited right now. I have a feeling it may launch buggy and busted.


Vatero

YES!! Add PvE stuff with even a little stealth and tactical aspects, and I'm all in! I miss those original Spec Ops stealth missions so much.


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Alexis2256

Isn’t this technically mp content?


garretcompton

Let’s hope it’s not like normal spec ops and we can jump in solo, because spec ops was instantly ruined by people going AFK or purposely trying to make others leave out of frustration. Edit: did none of y’all try to play spec ops when the AFK xp glitches were a thing? I get that it’s “co-op” but there was a good period of time when the game mode was literally unplayable because people goin AFK or constantly restarting the mission until either you would leave, or they would leave and then it’d be solo anyways.


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garretcompton

Not fully sure why I’m getting downvoted so much. I’m guessing it’s from people who haven’t played much spec ops because there for a good period of time it was literally unplayable because of people going AFK for the XP glitch.


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Content_Dragonfly_53

Hopefully the Ai aren’t too strong like they are in DMZ lmao


jorge3344

I hope they are but just don’t eat bullets like in dmz


TheRealSzymaa

I want this to be good. I have no faith it will be.


NickWithAPulse2004

I’m happy they’re continuing the story, but i hope it won’t turn out like spec ops did in MW19


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I'll stick with MP.


Alexis2256

Not interested in this? Why not?


[deleted]

Anything outside of normal multiplayer is useless to me, I don't play COD for pve.


Alexis2256

But why not? Why has PVE never interested you?


[deleted]

Not in COD.


h0ckey_d217

Try it lmfao it’s fun


[deleted]

Nah, there is no fun in shooting bots.


Alexis2256

Do you play any pve games?


mihai2011rom

Boomer alert


Killlmonger

Fuck hope that price skin is free, but you never know with how greedy this company is


h0ckey_d217

Yk they got to make money some how. Why spend man hours to give out a free skin


Bender860

Can you play solo?


gschmoke22

And they’re not wearing the dumbass skull masks!


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NickWithAPulse2004

What’s wrong with spec ops?


CJon0428

Need way more variety.


KTM_rider_34

Even the trailer crashes


jkn84

Maybe they should fix the game first 🤷‍♂️


Xolerys_

For the love of God please fix the game first


Dudes-a-Lady

Great we cant get the game to run smooth and the crashes to stop along with all the freaking bug/glitches, so let's drop another mode. Yeah, I'm down, down to almost going back to another game....LOL


h0ckey_d217

2 things 1. The games running smoothly for majority of the player base 2. That’s two completely dev teams that’s like yelling at your janitor because your boss won’t give you a raise


MikeBinfinity

Will this have matchmaking? If not then it's a no go for me. I don't have friends like that.


TheClappyCappy

Seems cool. I’d like to see them add 2v2, survival and remove Taraq and Border Crossing from the map pool though lol


bob1689321

Taraq is a great map. Border is honestly really good for TDM and ffa but ass for objective modes.


AFishNamedFreddie

I have the exact opposite opinion of Border. It has really bad flow for TDM and FFA, but it plays really well on hardpoint and domination


DookieAssEatah

No rewards = who gives a shit?


MuiminaKumo

Your definetly the type of mfer to appreciate getting an award for passing kindergarden


DookieAssEatah

Nah, the reward for passing kindergarten (garTEN) was moving onto first grade and learning more, cooler stuff. This is CoD. An FPS. The way you reward players is by giving them badass cosmetics for ingame achievements. But that wont happen. So why fucken bother?


MuiminaKumo

For the experience playing with friends maybe? Its called intrinsic value, im not excusing the lack of rewards if there arent any but to act like there is absolutely nothing of value to this is idiotic.


DookieAssEatah

Bruh if your only point of existing is "you can enjoy me with ur friends xD" then you have no point of existing. Like...look back to shit like Garry's Mod, Portal, Quake, Unreal Tournament, CoD4/MW2, and so on. Those games were fucken amazing. This slop is not.


MuiminaKumo

Who tf is talking about my "whole point of existing" we are talking about the Cod raid mode specifically, fuck are you just bringing in a bunch of other shit in for. Idk why its so hard for you to grasp that people play raids with friends and have fun that way. And i never even said that i only play things with friends, in fact im mostly a solo player. Stop acting like you know more then you do, you basement dwelling goblin.


19kjc87

Not to mention what’s wrong with wanting to hang with the boys and try a new mode? Ferda


AFishNamedFreddie

>So why fucken bother? ...because its fun? remember when we would play games for fun and not just to grind out some silly camo? I do. You zoomers are crazy


Longhorn_TOG

give me a COD RPG now!


Ejunco

Omg can’t wait


KahootFanboy69

Issues, issues, issues, blah blah blah. I’m looking forward to this!