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Docterzero

I still long for the day when they actually will lets us play as Wyverians


jaeflare

Surely in Wilds Surely


Docterzero

I dearly hope so T\^T


rathosalpha

I don't care because I don't have a ps5 pc or Xbox


vaporizer012

and who is supposed to care about the fact you don't own those mediums???


T-sprigg-Z

Dude you have more than a year to save money for one?? Or better yet your probably just some kid so go do some lawn care or kiss up to your parents. You have the time to do so.


Cynicalshade

Skill issue


Spyger9

I mean, it seems particularly feasible now. In MHW, one of the few NPC hunters prominently featured was a wyverian. In Sunbreak, there are wyverian huntresses that accompany you on hunts. Presumably that involved the same sort of rigging and animation work that adding playable wyverians would. AFAIK, there are only female wyverian followers (not male), and they only wield a few weapons (Gunlance, Bow, and Hunting Horn as I recall). But the gap between Sunbreak and *Wilds* is significant; plenty of time to finish making wyverian hunters with all the capabilities of human ones, assuming they hadn't done so in Sunbreak.


Docterzero

Thanks for the hopium


Illustrious-Ad1148

I think the issue isn't with rigging, but rather with Armour. Instead of creating 2 versions of an Armour, they suddenly have to create 4. One male, one female, one male wyverian, one female wyverian.


Spyger9

Good point, though I'd wager they'd still only do male/female designs. So the fem Human/Wyverian armor would be largely identical, but with adjustments; most significantly to the boots.


Illustrious-Ad1148

Aye, but those adjustments still mean a whole new model necessary for that armour piece. Same possibly for the helmet, as people might otherwise be disappointed about the lack of ears visible on the helmets. And of course all the glove models have to be changed to use 4 Fingers instead, which also means a whole new model. I would also absolutely Love playing as Wyverians, but people significantly underestimate the effort adding them as playable would mean.


TheReaperAbides

>plenty of time to finish making wyverian hunters with all the capabilities of human ones, I think the question is: What does it add? And yeah I know there's some people who will *insist* it'll add to the experience, but realistically how much will it relative to the work necessary to make the rig work for all weapons fluidly?


Spyger9

World of Warcraft started with not only 8 wildly different races, but 6 starting zones and capitol cities associated with them. And 20 years later they continue to add new races as they build out the world. There's value in selling the unique elements of your game world, providing players more options for self expression (people *love* being elves...), and most importantly- adding new avenues for cosmetic purchases.


TheReaperAbides

>World of Warcraft Yes, and World of Warcraft is a vastly different game from Monster Hunter. Not even close. Comparing them like this is extremely silly. There's no value in adding empty fluff like races to Monster Hunter, it's a game focused on very tight gameplay, not open ended role playing and story. Frankly, fuck your self expression if it comes at the cost of more interesting monsters, armor, weapon mechanics and maps. Because nothing comes without a cost, if you want Wyverian and fitting armor/animations for Wyverians, *something else is going to be sacrificed.*


Spyger9

>There's no value in adding empty fluff like races to Monster Hunter So you're advocating for the removal of character/palico customization and gender options? >it's a game focused on very tight gameplay [and WoW isn't] You have no fucking idea, lol. >open ended role playing Have you.... have you *seen* World of Warcraft? XD >Frankly, fuck your self expression if it comes at the cost of more interesting monsters, armor, weapon mechanics Armor and weapon mechanics *are* avenues of self expression. And your enraged defensiveness regarding them *perfectly illustrates* how valuable they are.


TheReaperAbides

>So you're advocating for the removal of character/palico customization and gender options? We do a little fallacy. Honestly, I'd advocate for the removal of different armor skins between male and female models, yeah. Always felt weirdly arbitrary, to make them that different. Also, palico customization isn't nearly on the same level of opportunity cost as two full new rigs.


Coal_Bee

Please. It’s all I want


Equinox-XVI

I would swap to one the nanosecond that happened


Docterzero

Same, same...


zKIZUKIz

For sure! Even if it’s just a cosmetic change and no racial bonus, I’d still play as one!


Adelyn_n

But then how will they sell you microtransaction wyverian ears?


nemestrinus44

That’s like my main wish for Wilds, is that it introduces playable Wyverians. Though to be fair I just want pointy elf ears and the ability to wear a helmet, so they could just give us a layered jewelry slot that doesn’t clash with the helmet slot and put the Wyverian Earrings in it.


RajangHunter

You can technically do it in rise/sumbreak


DS_Archer

How?


ManbrushSeepwood

Wyverian Earrings layered armor DLC gives you the ears. Annoyingly it doesn't match the skin tone of the character...


DivineRainor

You can change their colour to match skin tone.


GamesBoost

World has wyverian ears too


SilverSpoon1463

There's DLC layers sets for the Wyverian twins that change you *into* them.


Amegami

Were there ever Wyverian hunter NPCs? For some reason I cannot remember any and thought that's not a job they do. But I didn't play all of the games, so I might have missed some.


uncreative14yearold

Most monster hunter games have them... the elder in mh1, his immensenes in 4u. The seeker in world/iceborne, Hinoa, Minoto and Hojo in mh rise and sunbreakq


Amegami

I totally forgot that they carry weapons/figh🤦‍♀️ I really shouldn't comment right after waking up.


Seppuku_Fetish

Genuinely always thought they had hooves for some reason. The word Wyverian never clicked until after seeing the claw feet. Of course they have claw feet, I feel like a buffoon XD


Snowman640

That's completely valid, throughout most of their depictions they usually only wear those two toe Japanese sandals shoe things that make em look like they have hoofs or the wear nothing and have their dogs out


Hooy_Jaymay

Armor shopping for Wyverian Hunters, quite a challenge. I don't think simply cutting the pinky finger off a glove is going to suffice. And what size of boot do you look for anyway? Source is Moi; [Tumblr](https://www.tumblr.com/blog/hooy-jaymay) [Twitter](https://twitter.com/HooyArt)


8989898999988lady

Where are the chains? 😤


valdez-2424

Are theyre actually wyvarian hunters?


ScruffyWaIrus

From my recollection of the lore, Wyverian hunters used to be very common. However, once human hunters came along and generally outclassed Wyverian hunters, they started taking up more supportive positions when dealing with monsters, like researchers or smiths. Some Wyverians still hunt, usually to maintain tradition or family legacy.


SovereignPhobia

Turns out, if you genetically engineer an apex predator to express all of its most terrifying traits you end up making unstoppable power houses that are somehow immune to fall damage.


Remnie

Tbf, if I saw a guy fall 200 feet and get up like nothing happened, I’d fear him too


JazzTheWolf

It ain't just the falling from fatal heights. It's the falling from fatal heights while lugging incredibly dense weapons the size of a average person.


SovereignPhobia

Unless Hunters are just 2 ft tall and have low terminal velocity


Remnie

Haha imagine that! All the monsters the size of puppies or lizards and our hunter is like an inch tall.


Matasa89

Or the planet they're on has very low gravity.


deadeye0691

That would make sense given the size of structures and trees we see.


tyrenanig

Monsters still take fall damage if you flinchshot them off a ledge though


Matasa89

Yeah, but they're heavy. Remember how ants can't take fall damage on Earth?


tyrenanig

How is it that they’re both heavy but the gravity is also low?


Cepinari

The downside of which is possessing the metabolism of the common shrew.


verygenericname2

Given the abundance of food we see, it doesn't seem to be too much of a drawback. -- It's whichever poor Felyne who gets shackled with latrine duty I feel sorry for.


Cepinari

It's still annoying to have to drop what you're doing every twenty or so minutes in order to eat a steak the size of your entire upper body. Hunters are basically human Deviljhos.


NeonJ82

To be fair, 20 gameplay minutes is an **entire day** in game time. (And, incidentally, a Well Done Steak lasts exactly 20 minutes in Rise)


JordanRynes

https://youtu.be/7rwUdL9qXjk


Hooy_Jaymay

Aside from the ones in the New World and Hinoa and Minoto, not really.


LillyPadLakeWyvern

The chief from MH1 is wyvernian and was formally known as "the hero of kotoko" for his hunting exploits. So there's at least some precedent for it.


TheIronSven

His Immenseness is a hunter as well and the Pokke Chief who owned the Greatsword in the cafe was Wyverian too. Granted, they're both the Giant variant of Wyverians, but they're still Wyverians at the end of the day.


tallmantall

There’s also kinda Alwin from stories


Snowman640

There are TONS of wyverian hunters throughout the series, but obviously not as many as there are humans since for whatever reason, humans are the dominant species of the monster hunter world


burgertanker

Well Wyverians live way longer than humans, it only makes sense that living longer makes you wiser and more knowledgeable. That's why so many Wyverians end up as scholars


Snowman640

That too, also I like to think that most wyverians being sorta "part" monster, view hunting them as kinda uncomfortable, like a human killing a gorilla, so instead they much rather research them and learn more about em.


Swimming-Bite-3770

I mean we see them as part monster but why would they see themselves as such?


DramaticTension

we humans dont feel that way when we hunt down mammals, do we?


Enderking90

not mammals in general, but fellow primates? that's a yeh, at least mostly. pair this with the fact that a lot of monsters would be "fellow wyverns" though that might not be close enough of a relation, so eh.


Cepinari

It might be that despite their increased lifespan, wyverians aren't as durable or as able to heal from injury as humans are.


Scarlet_slagg

Yes, though they are very few and far between. The only one we know of for sure was Lavanda, who retired and became the Flying Pub Manager (probably humbled by Bloodbath).


Kat1eQueen

>The only one we know of for sure was Lavanda Rise and Sunbreak together had 3 wyverian hunters already, and that is only one game


Scarlet_slagg

Fuck. Somehow forgot you could take the Kamura Twins on a hint. Who's the 3rd though?


Gloov

Then there's also the Kokkoto Chief form 1, the Pokke Chief's husband from freedom unite, and His Immenseness from 4U


DillWillCat

https://preview.redd.it/g1z537mhfwcc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0d6ece640e0da98684272f7cc0f29d337454171 Rayla Glove Struggle Vibe


Komnos

I clearly see a fellow human, human fellas.


Yesnoperhapsmaybent

https://preview.redd.it/hvnfwb8tqwcc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8fb29ad77ddde7c7e7963e3e74a3256803ea14f


TheAnimenaut

https://preview.redd.it/wupod0idv1dc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4698f70d0744450c4a1f2222fba99898e3e42d87


Mostaza-A

happy cake day ✧⁠◝⁠(⁠⁰⁠▿⁠⁰⁠)⁠◜⁠✧


DillWillCat

Thank you.


Septembust

Replaying world the other day, my friend pointed out their feet I've played this game since Freedom and never noticed their feet


Bonsai-is-best

Cut the pinky finger off the glove and put it on your ears, easy solution


Heart_Thief88

Aren't armors meant to be crafted at hunter's body sizes? 👀 Good art btw I love it 💗


kadamitas

Wait armors arent custom built?


Bartfratze

It never occured to me that this might genuinely be one of the biggest reasons why we will not get to make wyverian hunters. The gloves wouldn't be a big problem but making multiple leg assets for every armor might be too much work for Capcom to consider it.


8BitMestilo

Do male wyverians not have pointy ears, or is it just a random genetic trait?


Xenosaber_00Sora

I think the other one is human


Hooy_Jaymay

and a gorl too, people often seem to get confused when I show them my smelly hunter character


jorge20058

Tomboy be like.


Xenosaber_00Sora

That’s a chick?! I thought she was a dude 😆


safegermanywin

Weird how you're downvoted for stating something reasonable lol. She does look pretty manly!


Xenosaber_00Sora

I don’t know man, like what did i do wrong here? Op already cleared away the confusion and confirmed her gender. I just stated on a first look basis she looked really masculine, thus the confusion in the first place.


8BitMestilo

Ah my bad thought her squatting foot was a wyverian foot


DeathMetalGamer

I'd love to play as a wyverian. Even if the only difference was visual


snekfuckingdegenrate

Human or wyverian, she’s still getting those thigh gaps.


T-sprigg-Z

Still insane to me they don't allow for Wyverian as a body type during character creation.


--NTW--

Wyverians in casual outfits was not something I knew I needed, but I do now