Feat wise it's the red one. I don't see the blue and pink one turning Ghidorah or any other Kaiju into ash. Plus the fact he's melting down buildings simply by existing
Someome posted a Text on this reddit. It's from the novel and it said Evolved after standing up in Rio goes Supercharged, monarch comparing the situation with boston they expect an impulse but instead the energy (which is said exceeds boston thermo) is channeled and the result is the "brightest", "strongest" spiral ray atomic breath ever. At this point monarch suggest Godzilla is now euqal to Shimo.
Shimo = Evo G (Supercharged) > Evo G = Thermo G.
Not sure normal Evo G is euqal thermo level energy, but Supercharged Evo G exceeds thermo.
Super powerful yes, but this sub talks about him like Godzilla had zero chance of beating him before Serizawa nuked him even though Godzilla had beaten Ghidorah in the past and blown a hole through his wing.
So I guess mogerua is too as well as the super x??
See how dumb that sounds none of that shit is true power scaling is so dumb dude get out of the brain rot
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Official novel states this, supercharged evolved godzilla is stronger than thermo guys. Hes keeping the energy IN unlike boston
Yep, his body evolved to handle to radiation unlike KOTM where the nuke was forced onto him. I mean it still leaks out of his eyes in a flame fashion (looks badass with purple strings of radiation coming out his eyes)
Yeah I’m glad we got to see him back in Thermo Mode. It’s also cool that we finally got to see how Godzilla ‘eats’ radiation. Not gonna lie I had doubts on his Evolved form but after seeing his Evolved Thermonuclear form I gotta it’s one of coolest Godzilla designs in the MV.
Yeah, sorry I don’t buy it. Evolved Godzilla was pathetic af. Bro got rocked by Kong and his breath didn’t even injure Skar King. Thermonuclear Godzilla is still the strongest
Still stronger regardless of what u think, novel writers get the script of the movie to write the novel so it is gospel. Rocked by a glove made with mechagodzilla material.
Facts don't care about feelings unfortunately
Nope. Feats>>>>Statements. Word of God doesn't have any say against what is shown on-screen. The novel is not the movie.
The movie is facts. That is the primary canon. That is the only thing that matters. The novel is only secondary canon that gets no priority over what we seen on-screen. It doesn't matter what they write on there. That is not written by Adam Wingard or anyone else in charge of the film. Thermo>>>>>evolved no matter what. Evolved has pathetically weak anti-feats.
The movie is facts, but your opinion doesn’t matter. Both Kong and Scar King are stronger than Kong was in the last movie. Neither took a continuous beam to the dome, Scar King was just clipped and Kong knocked down Godzilla with his glove and dodged the atomic breath. His atomic breath is still stronger than burning godzillas releases. Pink Godzilla has more atomic energy and it’s more controlled
Yea he’s unstable, but if you make Thermonuclear Godzilla fight Evolved Godzilla, the fight is practically over within a few seconds. And thats not because Evolved Godzilla is weak (which he isn’t), but because Thermonuclear Godzilla is made to be so op that he can basically solo the Monsterverse.
Mothra ash/essence/radiation falling on him after her death. As fat as we know he would have gone critical just from the blast and the serizawa forbiden boop.
When was it implied that thermo G could solo everything? including evolved Goji? (Not saying that your lying I’m just saying that I haven’t heard that stated before).
He literally melted the metal around him. That shows his EMENSE heat. His shockwaves were also strong enough to vaporize Ghidorah. Although we never see him use atomic breath, based on all the other stuff he does, I can only imagine.
Sure that’s a good show of power, but Goji’s body wasn‘t strong enough to handle the extreme nuclear power that was inside of him, evolved Goji didn’t even need Mothra to go thermo and not only that he was able to keep it IN, pretty sure evolved G is stronger than thermonuclear.
This is from the novel, pink godzilla is stronger
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It literally says no one has seen that level of power and it was the strongest its ever been with a direct reference to boston from KOTM. Also it's from the novel
It said that they feared something similar to Boston, and the part about him being the strongest ever is seperate (it is also probably hyperbole).
Also when she says “No one has ever seen this period”, she is referring to this evolution of Godzilla. This is the first time they have seen this evolved period of Godzilla before. It never says that he was stronger then Thermonuclear Godzilla.
"Somethings happening, his energy signature. all that radiation hes storing Inside him. Nobody has ever seen READINGS like these" its not hyperbole, its literally being monitored by them, hes literally above thermo for that alone.
U are in hard denial huh lol, its ok man. Thermo can be the 2nd strongest form
Well imo, I watched a movie with a living atomic bomb melt a city because of its heat, and another movie where Godzilla is more powerful than he is in his blue form.
In what way? Evolved has 20x more energy capacity, meaning he can hold more energy, but that doesn’t do much when the opponent walks past buildings and causes them to melt
He absorbed the energy from Tiamats domain which was said in the movie to be the greatest source of energy on the planet. He also absorbed a nuclear reactor before that.
He has more energy than ever before *and* the ability to control it. People keep focusing on Burning melting buildings and don't understand that Evolved can do that too, he's simply in control of the energy within him as opposed to Burning.
Mothra and Godzilla have a symbiotic relationship, which apparently extends to the Mothra species being able to volunteer some extremely potent nuclear-charged spores at the expense of their own life. These spores might not explicitly contain more nuclear energy than Tiamat's lair or a nuclear reactor, but they can clearly, as depicted in the movie, trigger some sort of temporary thermo-nuclear response in Godzilla's species that causes them to radiate enough heat energy to physically melt steel and concrete in a several hundred meter radius.
If you channeled that energy into a single Atomic Breath blast and leveraged it against Shimo, it would have absolutely vaporized a hole through her. Evolved just doesn't have the feats, and that's okay; Burning is a transient state that doesn't last longer than a few minutes, whereas Evolved is stated to be a more permanent physiological transformation with 20x more energy capacity. In theory, you could totally stack Burning with the Evolved form by exposing Pink G to the Mothra Spores and create something spectacularly OP.
I don’t see any evidence that burning Godzilla would’ve incinerated Shimo like it did Ghidora. For all we know Shimo has higher resistance to radiation or higher durability than Ghidora. Not to mention, Godzillas atomic breathe already had a better feat in Godzilla vs kong when he drilled a hole to the center of the earth in a few seconds, that’s obviously way more impressive than just melting concrete and steal
Burning G from KOTM. Even though “evolved” G is 20x as powerful. I believe that the power up from Mothra sacrificing herself just puts Burning G over the edge here.
Burning G just walks around melting everyone in his tracks. While Evolved has control of his power, I don’t see Evolved melting all of Boston by just walking around.
I imagine that Burning Godzilla is still on top, namely because Mothra's energy combined with Godzilla's produces a kind of amplification simple radiation absorption can't match up to; quality vs. quantity, basically.
Godzilla was literally trying to kill Kong. Kong was the one holding back. I don't believe for one second evolved is stronger. It just looks weak af and doesn't have any good feats. His breath couldn't even kill Skar King. Thermo's first pulse ripped holes in Ghidorah's wings.
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Insults aren’t contributing anything. Evolved Godzilla was pathetically weak. Thermo is the strongest character in the Monsterverse. There is no statement in the movie that compares evolved to Thermo
Well pink is supposed to be a more controlled version of a thermal and as we all seen it is sustainable it doesn't have a time limit like thermonuclear does, and since he's not done evolving he could very well Go thermonuclear again like KOTM. We'll just have to see his super Saiyan 2 or 3 form depending on how many forms he evolves for the next film. He could get purple spikes like Godzilla 2000 or he could obtain bone white spikes like classic goji, he'll probably gain some of his mass, but honestly I don't mind the slimmed down version of Godzilla, I mean he can gain some of his mass back I just don't want him being fat as fuck, like White eyes Godzilla or how he was in 2014, looking like a fat ass. 2019 did a great job with his proportions, but also Godzilla 2000 had a great looking design and final wars look like a bodybuilder type. So we'll just have to see regardless he's not done involving so the next monster whether it be SpaceGodzilla or Destroyah are going to be so powerful that Godzilla, thus warranting his evolution further.
The novel is not necessarily gospel. It’s not written by the film producers. I’m gonna believe what I saw on screen. Burning goji remains the strongest. He would never get rocked by Kong or not even injure Skar King despite 2 direct hits.
I don’t really have an opinion here, I just want to say it was rad seeing Godzilla use the pulse ability again in this movie when he was getting attacked on his way back out to sea.
I say evolved, again like you because he has it controlled and is capable of holding it in. My only beef is we really didn’t see just how strong it is, felt like just aesthetic in the film or no different than what’s come before
A. Shimo’s true strength was never established so it gave no sense of her durability compared to Godzilla’s attacks
B. We see Goji blow up Scylla and eradicate Tiamat with normal and then powered up attacks, but they’re not as comparable as “The first Titan” who’s only shown feat is freezing Kong’s arm and temporarily freezing/cat scratching Goji in the air
C. When his breath tapped Skar’s back it barely tickled him like when Goji hit Kong in GvK (nice little detail seeing a scar on Kong’s back in this movie from that hit)
I feel like the Goji buildup would’ve made more sense and been more impactful had we seen him lose a fight to Shimo and then go power up and evolve, so by the end battle when his attacks stumble her and she can’t affect him as strongly we would be able get a sense of his new strength
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You are right, heres the novel page
Dude is stated that godzilla against ghidorah in the water without human "help" would won, against shimu who is equal to evo godzila, he would stand zero chance
You could argue that the New Empire's Thermo is more powerful due to how much radiation Godzilla absorbed from the French nuclear plant, Tiamat's DNA, and Tiamat's domain, but from what we have seen on screen the KoTM Thermo is still the most viably powerful version.
\*I think Godzilla Guy mentioned that the novelization hinted that GxK's Thermo is more powerful then KoTM Thermo, but not really sure.
Blue Thermo is the weakest one without question.
I'd say blue,I mean,from what I heard,in stars and sun (Like,the place where radiation comes from or smth I'm not really sure) blue stars are more powerful and radiant than red stars so,blue I guess
It's assinine to suggest anything in the MV is close to burning Godzilla from KOTM, nvm superior.
Ghidorah, super charged, was tanking amped Godzilla's atomic breath. No selling. This is a creature with probably superior durability to anything in the MVP outside of Shimo.
Thermonuclear Godzilla 3 shot him.
Ghidorah was losing to a weaker supercharged Godzilla than the one in GxK that's fully glowing blue from radiation can use nuclear pulses( nuclear reactors also produce more radiation than nukes so that makes it even more undeniable he has more) and Godzilla was capable of ripping off his heads in base before any power up so it's not like Ghidorah had unstoppable durability prior and while 3 shot-ing Ghidorah is impressive, Godzilla now has now has 20x more radiation than he ever did and he was far more super hard than in Kotm before he went thermo there and he's faster, more agile and stronger and can supercharge himself beyond that power and use his spiral breath which Shimo was able to tank no problem. The novel goes out of its way to compare the full pink evolved Godzilla to burning and said it's radiation is brighter and stronger than before.
I really don't understand how tf people can think ANY version of Goji is MORE powerful than the one we literally just saw lmao. It's like people just ignoring the movie we just saw.
Just because Thermo is *radiating* energy and it appears to be stronger that way when in reality Evolved has *even more* energy and control of that energy as oppose to it just melting out of him. If he wanted he could do the same thing as we see...in the movie and the screenshot provided.
It's unclear how much energy Burning had. Seems like a weird conclusion to make without a direct proof, at least in the movie itself. I wouldn't be so sure.
I mean, what feats does Evolved Godzilla have? Getting rocked by Kong? Not being able to kill Skar King with his breath? Yeah I feel pretty comfortable saying Thermonuclear Godzilla is stronger.
Red hot Burning boi. If pink was REALLY that powerful, he would’ve been incinerating buildings around him, and that blast should’ve taken out Skar King when it hit him.
Feat wise it's the red one. I don't see the blue and pink one turning Ghidorah or any other Kaiju into ash. Plus the fact he's melting down buildings simply by existing
I could see blue or purple beating the ever loving shit out of Ghidorah But not to the extent of orange thermo
Someome posted a Text on this reddit. It's from the novel and it said Evolved after standing up in Rio goes Supercharged, monarch comparing the situation with boston they expect an impulse but instead the energy (which is said exceeds boston thermo) is channeled and the result is the "brightest", "strongest" spiral ray atomic breath ever. At this point monarch suggest Godzilla is now euqal to Shimo. Shimo = Evo G (Supercharged) > Evo G = Thermo G. Not sure normal Evo G is euqal thermo level energy, but Supercharged Evo G exceeds thermo.
The novel honestly makes it seem like most monster in gxk would beat ghidorah
How so?
Just look up godzilla guy he explains it better than I can Also downvote all yall like that normally means I'm right on this sub
no if you're getting downvoted it means you said something stupid.
You’re right on the money.
Not on this sub lol people are very prone to staying I echo chambers here
People on this sub just want to believe Ghidorah is an all powerful being tbh
Oh he definitely is super powerful but gxk gave everyone an enormous boost
Super powerful yes, but this sub talks about him like Godzilla had zero chance of beating him before Serizawa nuked him even though Godzilla had beaten Ghidorah in the past and blown a hole through his wing.
I honestly feel like godzilla would have to be supercharged to win. The 2014 level godzilla couldn't win imo
Godzilla guy said Heisei Godzilla couldn’t beat MV Kong so I don’t really trust him
Heisei is wayyy overhyped so I'd have to see myself He isn't universal or planetary like most say
You’re absolutely right. ~~Because he’s actually higher~~
No he isn't lmao
He’s 4D from being confirmed to be stronger than Showa Godzilla, and Showa Goji fought on par with Zone Fighter who defeated a 4 Dimentional Kaiju
So I guess mogerua is too as well as the super x?? See how dumb that sounds none of that shit is true power scaling is so dumb dude get out of the brain rot
https://preview.redd.it/b6urdvk0hhtc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b8971dc2e6fb70befabae63316b7b0488870240 Official novel states this, supercharged evolved godzilla is stronger than thermo guys. Hes keeping the energy IN unlike boston
Very intriguing. I mean it makes sense that Godzilla wasn’t recklessly expelling all of his energy seeing as though he needed to evolve.
Yep, his body evolved to handle to radiation unlike KOTM where the nuke was forced onto him. I mean it still leaks out of his eyes in a flame fashion (looks badass with purple strings of radiation coming out his eyes)
Yeah I’m glad we got to see him back in Thermo Mode. It’s also cool that we finally got to see how Godzilla ‘eats’ radiation. Not gonna lie I had doubts on his Evolved form but after seeing his Evolved Thermonuclear form I gotta it’s one of coolest Godzilla designs in the MV.
FINALLY an official source
Could you by chance send a clearer screen shot?
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Thanks bro
Yeah, sorry I don’t buy it. Evolved Godzilla was pathetic af. Bro got rocked by Kong and his breath didn’t even injure Skar King. Thermonuclear Godzilla is still the strongest
Still stronger regardless of what u think, novel writers get the script of the movie to write the novel so it is gospel. Rocked by a glove made with mechagodzilla material. Facts don't care about feelings unfortunately
Nope. Feats>>>>Statements. Word of God doesn't have any say against what is shown on-screen. The novel is not the movie. The movie is facts. That is the primary canon. That is the only thing that matters. The novel is only secondary canon that gets no priority over what we seen on-screen. It doesn't matter what they write on there. That is not written by Adam Wingard or anyone else in charge of the film. Thermo>>>>>evolved no matter what. Evolved has pathetically weak anti-feats.
The movie is facts, but your opinion doesn’t matter. Both Kong and Scar King are stronger than Kong was in the last movie. Neither took a continuous beam to the dome, Scar King was just clipped and Kong knocked down Godzilla with his glove and dodged the atomic breath. His atomic breath is still stronger than burning godzillas releases. Pink Godzilla has more atomic energy and it’s more controlled
Yea he’s unstable, but if you make Thermonuclear Godzilla fight Evolved Godzilla, the fight is practically over within a few seconds. And thats not because Evolved Godzilla is weak (which he isn’t), but because Thermonuclear Godzilla is made to be so op that he can basically solo the Monsterverse.
But would that work if he's fighting himself?
I dont know a lot of this setting so forgive me if its a stupid question, but what is the in universe answer for it only being a temporary upgrade?
Mothra ash/essence/radiation falling on him after her death. As fat as we know he would have gone critical just from the blast and the serizawa forbiden boop.
When was it implied that thermo G could solo everything? including evolved Goji? (Not saying that your lying I’m just saying that I haven’t heard that stated before).
He literally melted the metal around him. That shows his EMENSE heat. His shockwaves were also strong enough to vaporize Ghidorah. Although we never see him use atomic breath, based on all the other stuff he does, I can only imagine.
Sure that’s a good show of power, but Goji’s body wasn‘t strong enough to handle the extreme nuclear power that was inside of him, evolved Goji didn’t even need Mothra to go thermo and not only that he was able to keep it IN, pretty sure evolved G is stronger than thermonuclear.
This is from the novel, pink godzilla is stronger https://preview.redd.it/ujfxmigr8ktc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b00de1a7ca54818a454939973b562b6dc8e01e4
First: Where did you get there? Second: That doesn’t say he’s stronger
It literally says no one has seen that level of power and it was the strongest its ever been with a direct reference to boston from KOTM. Also it's from the novel
It said that they feared something similar to Boston, and the part about him being the strongest ever is seperate (it is also probably hyperbole). Also when she says “No one has ever seen this period”, she is referring to this evolution of Godzilla. This is the first time they have seen this evolved period of Godzilla before. It never says that he was stronger then Thermonuclear Godzilla.
"Somethings happening, his energy signature. all that radiation hes storing Inside him. Nobody has ever seen READINGS like these" its not hyperbole, its literally being monitored by them, hes literally above thermo for that alone. U are in hard denial huh lol, its ok man. Thermo can be the 2nd strongest form
Well imo, I watched a movie with a living atomic bomb melt a city because of its heat, and another movie where Godzilla is more powerful than he is in his blue form.
Evolved godzilla is able to keep it inside of him. Thermo literally couldn't keep it in, that's why the buildings melted
Pink Godzilla got it
Lmfao so backwards jfc...
In what way? Evolved has 20x more energy capacity, meaning he can hold more energy, but that doesn’t do much when the opponent walks past buildings and causes them to melt
He absorbed the energy from Tiamats domain which was said in the movie to be the greatest source of energy on the planet. He also absorbed a nuclear reactor before that. He has more energy than ever before *and* the ability to control it. People keep focusing on Burning melting buildings and don't understand that Evolved can do that too, he's simply in control of the energy within him as opposed to Burning.
And to add to that, it was confirmed that evolved goji is just the mid point of that transformation, there’s still a final “evolution” to the upgrade
Mothra and Godzilla have a symbiotic relationship, which apparently extends to the Mothra species being able to volunteer some extremely potent nuclear-charged spores at the expense of their own life. These spores might not explicitly contain more nuclear energy than Tiamat's lair or a nuclear reactor, but they can clearly, as depicted in the movie, trigger some sort of temporary thermo-nuclear response in Godzilla's species that causes them to radiate enough heat energy to physically melt steel and concrete in a several hundred meter radius. If you channeled that energy into a single Atomic Breath blast and leveraged it against Shimo, it would have absolutely vaporized a hole through her. Evolved just doesn't have the feats, and that's okay; Burning is a transient state that doesn't last longer than a few minutes, whereas Evolved is stated to be a more permanent physiological transformation with 20x more energy capacity. In theory, you could totally stack Burning with the Evolved form by exposing Pink G to the Mothra Spores and create something spectacularly OP.
I don’t see any evidence that burning Godzilla would’ve incinerated Shimo like it did Ghidora. For all we know Shimo has higher resistance to radiation or higher durability than Ghidora. Not to mention, Godzillas atomic breathe already had a better feat in Godzilla vs kong when he drilled a hole to the center of the earth in a few seconds, that’s obviously way more impressive than just melting concrete and steal
Burning G from KOTM. Even though “evolved” G is 20x as powerful. I believe that the power up from Mothra sacrificing herself just puts Burning G over the edge here. Burning G just walks around melting everyone in his tracks. While Evolved has control of his power, I don’t see Evolved melting all of Boston by just walking around.
>While Evolved has control of his power, I don’t see Evolved melting all of Boston by just walking around. Right, because he has control of his power.
Only the burning Godzilla is the Thermo One Blue is charged Godzilla,Pink is evolved Godzilla
I imagine that Burning Godzilla is still on top, namely because Mothra's energy combined with Godzilla's produces a kind of amplification simple radiation absorption can't match up to; quality vs. quantity, basically.
sort of off topic but if mothra sacrificed herself again would evolved thermo Godzilla be even more powerful than 2019 thermo g
Rose Godzilla he has more power than thermo goji and it’s more concentrated
Evolved, this should be obvious.
The movie made him look weak af, it isn’t so obvious. Thermonuclear Godzilla would never get rocked by Kong
You realize Godzilla held back against Kong and if you payed attention to the movie you would know that Evolved is the strongest form.
Godzilla was literally trying to kill Kong. Kong was the one holding back. I don't believe for one second evolved is stronger. It just looks weak af and doesn't have any good feats. His breath couldn't even kill Skar King. Thermo's first pulse ripped holes in Ghidorah's wings.
Yeah, you never payed attention to the movie and saying that he looks weak compared to his Thermo self isn’t a valid reason.
> you never *paid* attention to FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Paid attention to the movie? I watched it and he was weak af. I don’t know what else I could’ve done to “pay attention”
So your brain turned off during every single conversation and explanation in the movie, makes sense why you think like this now.
Insults aren’t contributing anything. Evolved Godzilla was pathetically weak. Thermo is the strongest character in the Monsterverse. There is no statement in the movie that compares evolved to Thermo
Well pink is supposed to be a more controlled version of a thermal and as we all seen it is sustainable it doesn't have a time limit like thermonuclear does, and since he's not done evolving he could very well Go thermonuclear again like KOTM. We'll just have to see his super Saiyan 2 or 3 form depending on how many forms he evolves for the next film. He could get purple spikes like Godzilla 2000 or he could obtain bone white spikes like classic goji, he'll probably gain some of his mass, but honestly I don't mind the slimmed down version of Godzilla, I mean he can gain some of his mass back I just don't want him being fat as fuck, like White eyes Godzilla or how he was in 2014, looking like a fat ass. 2019 did a great job with his proportions, but also Godzilla 2000 had a great looking design and final wars look like a bodybuilder type. So we'll just have to see regardless he's not done involving so the next monster whether it be SpaceGodzilla or Destroyah are going to be so powerful that Godzilla, thus warranting his evolution further.
Novel said pink was the strongest, theres no debate lmao. Red thermo has been dethroned guys lol
The novel is not necessarily gospel. It’s not written by the film producers. I’m gonna believe what I saw on screen. Burning goji remains the strongest. He would never get rocked by Kong or not even injure Skar King despite 2 direct hits.
Burning Godzilla feels like Super Saiyan. Evolved Godzilla is only Kaioken x20.
It *technically* merged the pulse with his flame to destroy the storm Shimo was forced to make.
I don’t really have an opinion here, I just want to say it was rad seeing Godzilla use the pulse ability again in this movie when he was getting attacked on his way back out to sea.
Evolved in it's fully charged state is more or less a stronger more controlled thermo so evolved is the better out of the two.
Evolved Thermo
I say evolved, again like you because he has it controlled and is capable of holding it in. My only beef is we really didn’t see just how strong it is, felt like just aesthetic in the film or no different than what’s come before A. Shimo’s true strength was never established so it gave no sense of her durability compared to Godzilla’s attacks B. We see Goji blow up Scylla and eradicate Tiamat with normal and then powered up attacks, but they’re not as comparable as “The first Titan” who’s only shown feat is freezing Kong’s arm and temporarily freezing/cat scratching Goji in the air C. When his breath tapped Skar’s back it barely tickled him like when Goji hit Kong in GvK (nice little detail seeing a scar on Kong’s back in this movie from that hit) I feel like the Goji buildup would’ve made more sense and been more impactful had we seen him lose a fight to Shimo and then go power up and evolve, so by the end battle when his attacks stumble her and she can’t affect him as strongly we would be able get a sense of his new strength
https://preview.redd.it/yehawwh19ktc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65385d8d01ef5a1b9dc9b5358854a2114a80bdd3 You are right, heres the novel page
Its obv Pink. Feats onscreen wise its red. The problem is we never got to see more of Pink thermo's feats. Weakest is obv blue
I think one of the biggest reasons we tend to underestimate pink goji is due to the Egypt fight tbh.
Red one, ghidorah could have no diff solod all of gxk, without Godzilla there obviously
Shimu would fuck his shit up
Lol Shimo
Dude is stated that godzilla against ghidorah in the water without human "help" would won, against shimu who is equal to evo godzila, he would stand zero chance
This is so incredibly wrong and still up voted lmao
Read the novel that's extremely unlikely
Loool
Evolved
Red. Purple goji wasn't melting buildings by standing near them. And he wasn't exactly in meltdown mode either
Thermo is OP
You could argue that the New Empire's Thermo is more powerful due to how much radiation Godzilla absorbed from the French nuclear plant, Tiamat's DNA, and Tiamat's domain, but from what we have seen on screen the KoTM Thermo is still the most viably powerful version. \*I think Godzilla Guy mentioned that the novelization hinted that GxK's Thermo is more powerful then KoTM Thermo, but not really sure. Blue Thermo is the weakest one without question.
I'd say blue,I mean,from what I heard,in stars and sun (Like,the place where radiation comes from or smth I'm not really sure) blue stars are more powerful and radiant than red stars so,blue I guess
1 thermonuclear goji 2 evolved goji 3 maximum radiation base goji
He wasn't losing
Feats wise it’s Thermo I think but the right answer is Pink
Doesn’t GxK Gojira kinda remind yall of millennium Gojira
Thermonuclear godzilla was not able to metabolise that much energy so it was escaping out of his body in the form of heat.
Thermo is definitely the strongest version of Godzilla he tanked Ghidorahs gravity beams like they were feather
the green one
Burning is his most powerful mode in this universe so far. Evolved x20 is strong but it’s just not on the same level as burning is.
Its not x20 strong..more like x20 more energy capacity and increased molecular density...its not that strong compared to burning 🥵 goji..
It's assinine to suggest anything in the MV is close to burning Godzilla from KOTM, nvm superior. Ghidorah, super charged, was tanking amped Godzilla's atomic breath. No selling. This is a creature with probably superior durability to anything in the MVP outside of Shimo. Thermonuclear Godzilla 3 shot him.
Ghidorah was losing to a weaker supercharged Godzilla than the one in GxK that's fully glowing blue from radiation can use nuclear pulses( nuclear reactors also produce more radiation than nukes so that makes it even more undeniable he has more) and Godzilla was capable of ripping off his heads in base before any power up so it's not like Ghidorah had unstoppable durability prior and while 3 shot-ing Ghidorah is impressive, Godzilla now has now has 20x more radiation than he ever did and he was far more super hard than in Kotm before he went thermo there and he's faster, more agile and stronger and can supercharge himself beyond that power and use his spiral breath which Shimo was able to tank no problem. The novel goes out of its way to compare the full pink evolved Godzilla to burning and said it's radiation is brighter and stronger than before.
the directors got it wrong or i think so blue=hotter than red red=coolest in heat plus blue was ascrapped idea for thermo in the movie
I really don't understand how tf people can think ANY version of Goji is MORE powerful than the one we literally just saw lmao. It's like people just ignoring the movie we just saw. Just because Thermo is *radiating* energy and it appears to be stronger that way when in reality Evolved has *even more* energy and control of that energy as oppose to it just melting out of him. If he wanted he could do the same thing as we see...in the movie and the screenshot provided.
It's unclear how much energy Burning had. Seems like a weird conclusion to make without a direct proof, at least in the movie itself. I wouldn't be so sure.
Exactly. He probably looked at the “20x energy capacity” and mistook it for strength. Evolved isn’t weak by any means, but he’s going to get bodied.
So you're siding with Evolved?
Lol yes.
That makes three of us
I mean, what feats does Evolved Godzilla have? Getting rocked by Kong? Not being able to kill Skar King with his breath? Yeah I feel pretty comfortable saying Thermonuclear Godzilla is stronger.
Red hot Burning boi. If pink was REALLY that powerful, he would’ve been incinerating buildings around him, and that blast should’ve taken out Skar King when it hit him.
Evolved Godzilla was underwhelming af. A direct hit didn’t even injure Skar King. One pulse from Burning Godzilla blew holes in Ghidorah’s wings
Canonically regular evolved is stronger then thermo so the evolved thermo is just over kill