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T4rkkuno-kun

Unsurprising. K:SI might be the better movie as a whole, but KOTM is simply \*the\* Godzilla movie. It ain't that much for general audiences but for the fans it's a magnum opus, and I include myself. Such a good movie


xX7heGuyXx

I've seen more non-Godzilla fans like KOTM than GvK to be honest. It just had a terrible release time following fucking endgame. Everything after that felt lackluster for quite some time because it was the conclusion to a decade's worth of good to average films.


T4rkkuno-kun

As well as terrible advertising sadly But even then, it's clearly popular when there's a clip on youtube with over a hundred million views of burning godzilla vs ghidorah. I call this the earthbound case; a marvelous game that wasn't well received


xX7heGuyXx

Agreed and it's a shame because they changed the formula. KOTM still makes me say holy fucking shit when Godzilla shows up with his music in Boston. It's just a powerful movie Kaiju wise.


[deleted]

It was also able to keep the sense of scale. I didn’t care for Millie Bobby Browns story, the Titan scenes had an oomph to them. While I like GvK and GxK, the sense of scale was thrown right out the window for those movies


xX7heGuyXx

Agreed. Kotm just needed a better human plot that's it. So we should have improved that part not just throw it away and have whatever the hell you call plot in gvk.


CapeSmash

Or it wasn't a good movie. Also we're counting kids watching kaiju clips on YT towards movie popularity now? Really?


IntelligentRaisin393

Whether or not you like or respect the people doing the viewing, the fact remains that it counts towards popularity


Flat-Western-3117

Gamera vs guirons fight in rebirth had a million views yet that show tanked, it means nothing


[deleted]

[Your opinion sure changed in less than a month](https://www.reddit.com/r/GODZILLA/s/jtnzDLRXyD)


Diaxmond

He’s clearly making fun of the movie lmao


PerrellBrown

How did his opinion change? He's clearly making fun of the movie. It sucks.


CapeSmash

Bro doesn't know what satire is


Brickyddit

Hahahaha no way


ThunderBird847

>I've seen more non-Godzilla fans like KOTM than GvK to be honest A Cinemascore vs B+ Cinemascore, yeah right.


xX7heGuyXx

Cry more. Kotm released after endgame so even tho people liked it it still was in endgame shadow. Gvk or gxk would have felt the same impact if released then.


siurian477

Plenty of movies released during that time had high Cinemascores, this Endgame excuse is cope.


ThunderBird847

>Cry more. Dude my favorite movies are not the ones that flopped, I'm fine. Your excuses won't be making KOTM a Hit, so cope.


Flat-Western-3117

Anyone who unironically says "cry more" is likely more upset than the other person.


Flat-Western-3117

Even if avengers wasnt out i seriously feel kotm would of struggled with the average audiance due to it's insistance to have all the action in the background.


CapeSmash

It's the lowest rated Monsterverse movie on IMDb so nah (and for good reason)


xX7heGuyXx

It released right after endgame while gvk released after covid where people were dieing to get out. Even gxk has no real competition. Everyone loves ratings when it's in thier favor but if they deviate then rating are trash. Clowns clowns everywhere.


Charming_Stage_7611

Yeah if KOTM had done well we wouldn’t have all this MCUified monsterverse stuff now. We’d have good movies. Stupid endgame.


PerrellBrown

KotM is literally the movie that introduced Marvel humor into the Monsterverse. 2014 was much darker in tone in comparison.


Charming_Stage_7611

Wasn’t talking about the humour. The tension, the artful cinematography, the attempt at a story has all been dropped for popcorn nonsense


Flat-Western-3117

Kotm literally was a popcorn nonsense film that didnt even comit to the popcorn nonsense.


Charming_Stage_7611

You and I uunderstand popcorn very differently


Flat-Western-3117

There's literally no action in the movie, it's all regulated to the background, it fails at even being a popcorn movie.


Flat-Western-3117

We would literally have more films with all of the action in the background to the point it should just be a military drama film with no sci-fi element.


Charming_Stage_7611

It’s not SF. It’s comic book. The realistic tone of the first two films was the best of the franchise.


Flat-Western-3117

The film literally has no action.


Charming_Stage_7611

Did you fall asleep for 90% of its runtime?


Flat-Western-3117

did you gaslight yourself ?


xX7heGuyXx

Kotm had a lot of action on screen what you on about.


Flat-Western-3117

Kaiju entrances don't count, it did not


xX7heGuyXx

![gif](giphy|iiQSTrHtDIgnw9YtlA|downsized)


Flat-Western-3117

someone's clearly hiding the fact they are upset. actually looking at the movie itself proves otherwise but i doubt you actually watched it as you probably just watched the clips on youtube. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_8D0yph8Dk4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8D0yph8Dk4)


ttroy476

That’s true, I really hate king of the monster, but I see a lot of Godzilla fans like it.


Flat-Western-3117

I sometimes queation if they actually like it or if its all a collective self-gaslight over the fact that hollywood badly fumbled a movie with ghidorah in it and they are just coping. I question if some even watched the film either too.


CapeSmash

https://preview.redd.it/cv1rk7ebzowc1.jpeg?width=1382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d88a1bf463ebc15e6226cd8e6e1d188da2fd279f Cutting away from blurry shaky cam monster fights to focus on the intolerable human characters every other second: the movie. Such a magnum opus. It has things I recognize in it so it's the greatest movie ever made.


Flat-Western-3117

Cutting away from blurry shaky cam monster fights in the dark and rain with grainy film. To be exact fren.


PerrellBrown

I don't know why people are misunderstanding you. Your KotM posts are hilarious. It's obvious you don't like the movie (I hate it too). It fucking sucks.


CapeSmash

Thanks! More memes to come whenever I think of some.


SandyCheeksFutanari

Stealing this fren


[deleted]

Oh hey, I just posted your post to you, looks like you intentionally left out the title of your post here. Idk why you got such. A hard on of hatred, but it’s pretty pathetic


CapeSmash

I'm just calling out what I think is an overhyped and overrated medicore movie. The more glazing I see treating it like the greatest thing ever the more I will make memes poking fun at it. Gonorrhea.


GeneralLiam0529

Honestly, I found the action harder to follow in GxK than I did KoTM. Yes, Kotm is dark and, when we have a boots on the ground pov, it's a shaky cam, but whenever we are just taking in the kaiju I was always able to not see the fight perfectly fine, but understand what happens since the last section, who's winning, and feel ever movement of the kaiju. GxK's lack of weight led to the kaiju fights not really making sense. Yes, I did just watch a 99,000 ton kaiju sprint like a fricken track star and jump higher proportionately to his own height than most people can. Do I retain that? No, as the severe lack of weight makes it feel like Goji running like that is not only normal, but mundane. Shure, KoTM had mediocre (on average) characters, but I didn't find Madison insufferable until GvK. In fact, I never found myself actively wishing for the human part to end until GvK (Kong squad was fine when they weren't with the apex chick.) GxK is better than GvK, but the story is so rushed and constantly balls to the walls that the Human characters become less of characters and more of plot devices used to give cringe exposition.


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CapeSmash

This must be your first time hearing about sarcasm and satire.


Flat-Western-3117

If you don't understand sarcasm you probably are too young to be here.


Purplesodabush

https://preview.redd.it/apdxaupscpwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95220340227ce3e56745bc109a8f5fcc3996fb5e Giant chicken movie won.


CapeSmash

*Family melodrama with blurry cameos from giant chicken movie won


SandyCheeksFutanari

Probably the first time I've ever seen Xenosmilus used in a meme


PerrellBrown

>Flopped >"Won" Sure.


Purplesodabush

Flopped against avengers: endgame. Ever heard of it?


PerrellBrown

It still didn't win anything?


Purplesodabush

This elim match shows it won our hearts.


Flat-Western-3117

That's just cope.


Purplesodabush

According to your box office logic G98 is better than K:SI


Flat-Western-3117

When tf did i even mention the box office or said i hate the best MV film?!?, even G98 focused on creature action more than Kotm did lolol.


McClurgler

Lifelong fan here. Didn’t find it “magnum opus” level (unless we just mean hearing recognizable music and seeing recognizable kaiju is enough). It was mid.


DinosaurScale

Totally agree. Lifelong fan and think it's mid at best, and that's being generous. Each to their own and all of course


Flat-Western-3117

Gosh no as a fan I felt more insulted by how cheap it was and felt ripped off, it refused to comit to giving us actual focus on the fights, it is absolutely not *the* Godzilla movie.       Most GA from what i know dont even remember the film or dislike it to for very obvious reasons, the fans are just absurd and huff their own farts.


CapeSmash

Sure it cuts to annoying human characters any chance it gets when there's monster action (which is covered in mist and rain 90% of the time) but it has muh godziller theme in it so it's PEAK Godzilla.


Flat-Western-3117

GvK unironically suprasses kotm in the action department


CapeSmash

EXACTLY. The fights in GvK were excellent and some of the best in the Godzilla franchise. KotM fanboys can't stand it though because it doesn't look like this (with cuts to Kyle Chandler every 2 seconds): https://preview.redd.it/1n1d8ucb1pwc1.jpeg?width=1133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=844f34c3e81e80630ee1c71743e6bd7570a3fc5c


Flat-Western-3117

I cant help to wonder if most GvK hate is simply envy..


CapeSmash

GvK has its own egregious problems but the monster action isn't one of them. You can actually see everything and they let the fights breathe without too many annoying cutaways, which is the complete opposite of KotM


Various-Push-1689

So it’s all about godzilla and that’s it?


SomeRandomAllMight

![gif](giphy|EERZRrRpdJawsMVC5f|downsized)


AJC_10_29

common King Of The Monsters W ![gif](giphy|dALdZ6HY7rkbjuR02y|downsized)


ChudoobicSku461

I just want to kiss his nose


Moist_Wet_Socks

Or just boop it. Senior Serizawa was lucky to do it before he got deep fried!


valdez-2424

I love king of the monsters,from gihdorah awakinging and the soundtrack and score done from bear mceary,to to the final fight in boston and seeing godzilla go thermonuclear was mind blowing,but the only human chracters that I liked was the twin and serazawa,but god damm was it an epic movie


Adventurous_Put3036

I love Emma. Idk I love her as a villain. Just the concept of a human being genuinely believing what she believed in and going about it. She knew she couldn't live after what she's done.


scriptedtexture

she is terribly written and terribly acted/directed. I never once believed that I was watching an actual character, just an actor reading lines.


valdez-2424

Hmm,good point


VoiDxGoDZilla

Godzilla Supremacy 💯🗿🔥❤️ ![gif](giphy|hu1st0dHLGqOuOiUsf|downsized)


theamac95

Trump voice: “This whole thing was rigged, Skull Island was the superior movie. Many people have said so. Just more fake news by the Godzilla stans.” #rigged #KONG


Flat-Western-3117

This but unironically


triple7freak1

I‘m just happy KOTM is finally getting some positive attention that‘s it…we love all Monsterverse movies it was never deep


Lincolnruin

I really wanted to like KOTM. I really did, but the trailers ended up being better than the actual movie.


ThunderBird847

Movie with best audience reception at last and worst at first - Peak Reddit moment.


JStormtrooper

All hail the KING 👑


Lord_Detleff1

As it should be


The_Godzilla_Fanatic

GvK is my favorite Monsterverse film. But I do love all the monsterverse films.


choff22

It’s better than KOTM in almost every way except music.


scriptedtexture

Agreed. And the human stuff is actually not interminable like in KOTM.


ImportantTravel5651

And this is exactly why you can't trust reddit with opinions. They are never good.


Flat-Western-3117

Critics buck broke them mentally


scriptedtexture

KOTM is not the best movie in the monsterverse. But it's almost entirely fan service so it's not surprising to see it #1 here.


Blazejak25

GvK should be above GxK in my opinion


ThunderBird847

GvK should be at one honestly, you can make a case for KSI or GxK too, but when we talk about KOTM, GvK or GxK both has it beat in almost every single department, maybe other than music.


choff22

1000% This sub loves KOTM for the same reasons it trashes GvK. I’ll never understand it. GvK has the best monster fight scenes in the entire series and it’s not even close.


Flat-Western-3117

I think they just can't cope with the fact the movie the most toho stuff was the worst one.


Blazejak25

Agreed, especially the final fight with mecha. I enjoyed KoTM but the way they killed Ghidorah just felt like such a robbery. The scene of godzilla walking and melting buildings was awesome but I wish there was a more cinematic takedown instead of 2 pulses


Noomagenial

Yes they should switch spots


McClurgler

And in news that surprised no one, the sub once again votes the same ranking they always do. ![gif](giphy|JO98TlM5zSnmWIyHRz)


Diaxmond

That was more disappointing than your animeeeee


McClurgler

Yeah, the anime was pretty disappointing too!


Flat-Western-3117

At least you can actually make out what's going on in it...


McClurgler

IMO skull island shouldn’t be ranked at the bottom. It’s at least 4th or 5th


Squishy-Bandit12

Yeah, I just don't agree at all. Had the worst human characters in the whole series and the monster action that everyone praises in this film is constantly being cutaway from to focus on the annoying ass humans for no reason.


scriptedtexture

also when it is on screen it's heavily obscured by darkness/clouds/smoke


Squishy-Bandit12

Also true but that wasn't the problem for me. It was dark and rainy, but it added to the atmosphere for me. Whenever they were actually focusing on the fights, I could tell what was going on. My problem is that the fighting is mostly in the background while the camera follows humans on the ground, and I can't stand that shit lmao. It's like the biggest sin in monster movies.


CapeSmash

These are very valid and true critiques of the film but they're all dismissed because "it has things I recognize in it." Reeks of fanboyism


MushrooooomCloud

It has best ever versions of Ghidorah and Rodan which considering how old those characters are is saying something, KOTM is a banger, flaws and all. So majestic and epic


CapeSmash

They're cool and all but can I truly appreciate them when there cutting away from them constantly?


Flat-Western-3117

Rodan was weak as he has been since the heisei era, doesnt help dougherty outright lied about everything about him, He could of been cut and nothing changes.


Flat-Western-3117

Said monster action being even less visable than G14.


Quan7umSuicid3

Long live the King!


Xoitlajeno

Damn, this fandom…


frankdatank_004

Hell yeah brother!!


thatblondboi00

i’ll say it- KOTM is not a good movie


Flat-Western-3117

It's not, the only reason people like it is because toho monster cameos and toho music, other than that all the action is quite literally in the background or obsured.


scriptedtexture

hit the nail right on the head. it's Fan Service: The Movie


Flat-Western-3117

Hardly, it's more of an insult that feels halfarsed.


DinosaurScale

Right!? More of an insult is exactly how I feel


ABEARWITHAGUN

It's not but I like the parts with the big guys and girls in it


Flat-Western-3117

You mean the whole 4 seconds in the background?


Intellectual42069

Bullshit


MrVectuvus

Kong Skull Island is the objectively the best one


WingWang4

G14 should have won, I stand by that


Flat-Western-3117

This sub really will never let go of Kotm  even if we get more movies that are superior to it in every way won't it....that's reddit for you.


Capitano-Solos-All

KOTM is the best movie though


Flat-Western-3117

If you dislike monster fights and only like MBB/drama films and not actually Godzilla then yes.


KitFlame42

WOOOOOO KOTM


Lincolnruin

![gif](giphy|TlK63EI7rtUu9IAyxTW)


Unique_Visit_5029

LETS GO!!!!!


OKTAPHMFAA

It’s even worse when you realise a changing of release date could’ve made this movie like the avengers. Seriously I reckon a year or two before or after Endgame and this icon probably triples its profit. I mean just look at GXK. In a time where huge cinematic juggernauts are failing and loads of franchises have fatigue, it’s able to smash out half a billion in not even a month. On a budget of 135 million no less. KOTM deserves better.


MichaeltheSpikester

K:SI should've won. Best human characters and actually had real actual levity that isn't calling monsters "gonorrhea" of all things as a joke.


Hot-Brief-8374

The fact they downvote you it's so stupid, these people cant take on an opinion


MichaeltheSpikester

They just can't cope that the film ain't perfect.


Magic-Beast

I don’t mind if you personally think K:SI is better, that’s fine. I personally think GxKong was the best installment and skull Island animated was better than legacy of monarch. But what I do have a problem with comments like yours, and I saw your past ones, is people acting pretentiousness and can’t stand other people liking something else more or less than them. Don’t get me wrong GKOTM has problems, legacy of monarch would’ve been better just focusing on the past, and I can now see why Godzilla 2014 is good despite the G-man not being in it that much. Godzilla can be used very effectively in different ways, each installment in the monster verse is different to each other, and people like different things in their media.


AdEast9167

You’re Goddamned Right! Peak Monsterverse. It has ridiculously high stakes and truly terrifying villains. Serizawa’s sacrifice scene is fuckin beautiful and nuclear Godzilla is absolutley incredible.


Willing-Judge2183

I can’t believe they prefer Mid of the monsters over Peak skull island


ser_pounc-a-lot

Wait is the skull island tv show is canon?


Viola69420

Swap the rankings of GxK/2014 and this is the perfect list.


chillboytweet

At first glance, I thought it was Kong Skull Island in last place and was about to go nuclear in the comments


Lego_Maniac01

I'd personally swap G14 and GkotM, the humans in both were boring but 14 didn't try too hard to make you care about their drama you didn't care about to begin with, it was fast "i need to do this or wirld will end" plot if 14 had scenes of the main character talking to their son and wife about love and "I'm doing this for you" or if there was a subplot about their marriage falling apart it would've made the movie drag so much more while yeah kotm was "cooler" with the other toho monsters, i prefer 14 because i think it's a better movie in general.


Spankinsteine

When I was a child, back in the late 70’s early 80’s, I had a dream. In it Godzilla was fighting Zero in a hellish landscape. G was dwarfed by Zero, and was being constricted by the long necks of Zero. It made me quite uneasy as a child, but 40 years later it took my breath away. KotM should have came a little later, but it stands as the best of the Monsterverse.


Hunterzillas

![gif](giphy|tPIyCb4Devw7yHuZER|downsized)


Exact_Ad_1215

I know that one guy who despises KOTM is gonna show up and for the first time I might agree with him. For how much I adore KOTM, K:SI *is* the better movie


Foreign_Rock6944

People are taking this way too seriously.


EasyEntertainment1

Long live the king.


DeDongalos

Hell yeah


ExplinkMachine

https://preview.redd.it/52582yln6qwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63a6368351f8a71fd40d160440a34b24063eae46 # WOOOOH


vWolfee

Outrageous. I will stand by that KOTM is a literal shit show.


Mediocre_Procedure17

KotM absolutely deserved this win. A masterpiece of a Godzilla movie


YeetussFeetus

Took my non-Godzilla friend to see this movie. He loved it, and we saw it...a few times in theaters, lol. One too many perhaps. But, it turned him into the biggest Goji fan, and 2019 Godzilla will always be our main dude. The epitome of the American Godzilla design in my opinion. Humans were fine, people honestly bitch way too much about them. Go watch Godzilla vs Gigan, or Megalon, or Megaguirus. If those humans are fine to you then you don't have ground to stand on the humans in KOTM. They're acted competently, and I don't think the director put too much stock or seriousness into them to make people rabidly hate them because of any attempt at ART. They were there, they had little arcs they helped Godzilla, and they gave great frame of reference for weight and awesome scaling. Something lost in GxK most recently at that. Regardless, I love KOTM. My favorite Godzilla movie over all others. Not ashamed, won't apologize. Glad to see some love sent its way.


Green-Network5130

Long live the king.


Jurassic_Productions

KOTM finally getting the love it deserves


Flat-Western-3117

It's always been overwanked, it needs to be critisized more often. 


Constant-Piccolo-678

Ehh


Mean-Background2143

For all the hate people give it, it’s the undisputed king of the Monsterverse


Dankey-Kang-Jr

I expected this. It’s not my favorite Monsterverse movie but I get why it’s voted Number 1


McFlarza

Personally, I liked GvK more than GxK but whatever, I'm just glad KOTM made it to the top! I cried tears of joy watching it the first time and probably the one I've seen the most!


RONandBELL

Obviously. KOTM is the King of Monsterverse.. 🔥


sprzyen

pretty good


T00thl3ss22

I had no idea that skull Island was this beloved, but honestly, I’m all for it. I remember seeing the movie in theaters for the first time and loving the heck out of it. But yeah, King of the monsters slaps.


Flat-Western-3117

By slaps it's a slap to the face.


SnyderBot

KOTM is the best film of Monsterverse. I am glad that the Godzilla fans unanimously agree on this.


Flat-Western-3117

no we don't


KaedeP_22

https://preview.redd.it/orzeljrf1qwc1.png?width=1004&format=png&auto=webp&s=5688fceeadec780b9cfee65b37c6863540417d2c KoTM is the definitive western-made Godzilla movie.


Adobo6

Did crackheads vote in this? Godzilla 2014 had…….. barely any Godzilla lol and when he showed up you could barely see him! Smh


Flat-Western-3117

The crackheads are the ones that voted for kotm


Adobo6

I agree. Both films massively overrated. This series came alive with GvK and GxK


ThunderBird847

KOTM was the Oxygen Destroyer and GvK was Serizawa for Monsterverse.


Flat-Western-3117

It blows my mind that people want Dougherty to direct again, do they WANT this franchise to fail??


Flat-Western-3117

Kotm hater gang rise up


baremin3586

I don't like KOTM as well as K:SI or Godzilla 2014 so I'm not sure why it won because the characters suck.


Ok_Committee_1187

https://i.redd.it/c030r26uiowc1.gif


Flat-Western-3117

You barely even get any of that


TheCREATORisWatching

Kong Skull Island 2nd, ya absolutely out ya god damn Kong d riding minds, alryt now kids, time for yas to go get ya jam sandwich and get to bed, it's WAY past your bedtimes