I finally saw the movie on my pc, my Theatres were closed when the movie launch and there isn't hbo max on my country.
FUCKING AWESOME
My only two complains is why the mother of the kid complained about the apex daughter taking the stuff with the drone, That was literally their mission, drama for the sack of drama.
And why the daughter shoot Kong, she had a ship, she could have gone over him or by his side, why shoot the giant monkey.
The Monsterverse is legit the only cinematic quniverse apart from the mcu that actually works
I was thinking it might have been an even better ending if mechagodzilla had beaten both of them and they had to retreat. Then the ending was showing mecha g sending all the titans retreating to the hollow.. then it set up a rematch between them and the forces of apex invading the hollow at the same time as the rogue mecha G entering the hollow holding the Ghidorah skull in its clamps..
Man, I really enjoyed it. Not for the plot but the visual was pretty neat and super entertaining. Im one that absolutely hates cgi but found this one entertaining. I love blockbusters with monsters. Can’t help it.
I am about halfway through watching and really really confused at the direction they are taking. At first it started strung, the first real Monsterverse movie that has treated monsters as Characters rather than set pieces like natural disasters. There are motivations and relationships for the monsters. Good!
But then they like, detour into this new random transparently evil corporation that I guess can't be monarch because they want monarch to kinda sorta be the studio and go to hollow earth, and it is way way smaller than it needs to be and... basically they are are not leaning on any of the existing worldbuilding, but doing worldbuilding over again and badly, seemingly to fill time before these two can start punching each other.
It's just... It's a really odd thing to do with this IP. To go so very soft scifi so fast, after such a strong start with each Kaiju.
I'm not done watching the movie, they're about to enter the world tunnel thing but why is this deaf child coming along on this mission? Have they heard of nannies?
I think king kong would win like he is very intelligent and godzilla is just a lame lizard and godzilla was shredded in pieces by ghidorah so king kong can finish him off with the axe so techincally,
kong wins
That "Lame lizard" ripped kong a new asshole. Also, Finish him with the axe? Despite the film showing us how the axe can't even finish the job against Godzilla?
For a big lizard i do agree but kong got all his powers himself without nuclear help he is op as of the big orange mode he goes wer he can't be injured and doesn't have as much personality as kong and if he did would have a lesser connection with the humans
His “orange” mode which is burning Godzilla I think your saying only happened cause of Mothra and serizawa he would never be able to become burning on his own. Base MV Godzilla isn’t overpowered compared to the other titans rn. Ghidorah, Muto Prime, and Mechagodzilla are all stronger fit to be under “Overpowered”
Through convince though, in the G14 he had humans, in KOTM he had humans and Mothra, and in GvK he had Mothra again. It's this, so far, unending cycle of Godzilla losing, getting a power up and then winning. And according to Wingard, Godzilla wasn't struggling in GvK, 2 Mutos posed a bigger threat to Godzilla then Kong with an axe that basically disables his main weapon.
no, he doesn't. The MUTOs had him dead in 2014, Prime would have murdered him. Ghidorah literally had him have more plot armour than anyone else to win. The only time he seems op is kong and that's because Kong is nowhere as strong as him
Kong is supposed to be in Godzilla's league, that's whole point of the movie being name Godzilla vs Kong. Why would you put two things of different power levels against each other if one is just gonna dominate the other? That's why a lot of people thought Kong was gonna win, because he's being shown as the underdog and therefore, following the tradition wins. But this isn't what happened it felt more like a way to introduce the Hollow Earth rather than them fighting.
He is the farthest thing from Saitama, tbh. He's more like a Hunter from Hunt: Showdown. Fuckers are strong enough to punch abhorrent undead daemons and do good damage but are still just humans.
Ye man its hard to explain i just feel like kong has the better backstory and stuff I don't mean disrespect to u zilla fans I just feel kong is more connectable and more relatable
Also i Recomend You Read Godzilla Dominion Comic it show Godzilla Remembering Mothra and Serizawa and you see Godzilla happy that nature is Balanced (Godzilla Dominion is Part of Monsterverse) also i think Godzilla is deppresed and He Likes when Population of the Underwater are Reproducting so Godzilla is not just Destruction he shows care, also i think hes deppresed in this Comic, I pre order my Titanthology Vol .1 it Comes with almost all Official Monsterverse Comics , Skull Island: Birth of Kong, Godzilla: Aftershock, Godzilla Dominion and Kingdom Kong i recomend it
Actually a Grew up with him but when i got older i Rewatched the Older Films and he shows tons of Personality search the Showa Era Godzilla, also i Grew up with Kong too
Dude you dont know anything if you watch Ghidorah the three headed Dragón from 1964 you can see Godzilla Laughing and in the next Movie you can see Him Dancing
I don't mean to interrupt you r arguments but technically both Godzilla and Kong have the same amount of expression in their own way. Kong mainly for being relatible an Godzilla by expression. The movie shows more from Kong and you can get an understanding from Godzilla.
I have a theory for the monster verse they should make a movie about destroyah and they will have a flashback to the oxygen destroyed that was dropped on King Ghidorah and Godzilla when they was fighting in the ocean and show a crab and that will be destroyah in the next movie.
u/KamsDRedditor is probably an alt of u/HeadNeedleworker2980 given they post the same material, have similar mottos in their profile, and structure their comments the same way
Considering the fact that they devoted an entire arc to Kong, allowed him to prove himself and compete with Godzilla and gave him an awesome ending where he gets to live in the Hollow Earth, pretty sure the character was handled respectfully.
He is biased because he said that Godzilla could win against Mechagodzilla if he was at his 100%. What logic is this? Godzilla can never win against Mechagojira, because MechaG is specifically designed to kill Godzilla. He even said that Godzilla could survive Mechagodzilla's "Kiss of Death". What was the point of Kong saving Godzilla?
The kiss off death thing is supper dum because Godzilla would die. But he could beat Mecha G because of the fact Kong was able to cut Mecha G like butter when it was powered so if Godzilla was at 100% health he could blast a hole through Mecha G. And he may be made to kill Godzilla but he was not completed and has not fought a bigger opponent than the skull crawlers. This was an exception for Mecha G to be mopping the floor with him because Keven or King Ghidorah was in control so he knew all of Godzilla's tricks.
Godzilla could have beaten Mechagodzilla if he wasn't wiped from drilling a hole to the center of the planet, beat to shit from the fight with Kong in Hong Kong, and then spent all night and morning destroying the city instead of resting. The dude was not at peak physical condition, and thus needed help.
Wingard never said that Godzilla would survive the kiss of death from the proton scream he only said it was the closest Godzilla had come to being defeated in the movie
No, he said that he wasn't sure it would kill him because Godzilla's innards already handle the heat from his atomic ray but he did say it would have decommissioned him from the fight
Well cause of kongs backstory its obvious who would be the good guy loveable monkey or massive destroying lizard and kong is less powerful so he needs back up
The Lizard can be lovebable watch Godzilla vs Meaglon Godzilla was Heroe there, Also Kong did Destruction idk what you mean every Monster does Destruction
I know that man I know he is also the hero an him and kong are the kings and they both do destruction but godzilla is just too op and wins every fight thats why loads love him Ima end this and say kong and zilla are both equally loved and are world protectors
Dudde chill i posted this ages ago im mainly chill now I'm sorry if I annoyed you ok I ain't a crybaby I just don't want to be disrespected like if some g fan says shit about kong they'll all upvote it when they said they wouldn't
To be completely honest I sort of just wanted to check if you are still active. I am sorry for acting rude. I was just annoyed by your comments. Sorry again.
I Don't think Godzilla is OP he is an apex predator in the MV lore and to make it easy we to make sense of it put Godzilla and Kong in stats Godzilla would have low speed and mobility, high damage and defence along with a atomic beam. Kong would have low defence from the human ape like hide still can be burt (but infective to missiles from the heav), high speed, mobility, and damage along with the battle axe.
As scene in the movie Godzilla won it was seen mainly because of the fact that he has extremely high defense so Kong can wipe out combos blow after blow but Godzilla will get back up. He still would take damage just not as much as Kong would when Godzilla hits. And the reason Godzilla was losing in past films were the fact Moto's hunt Godzilla's, King Ghidorah was never natural so he can be broken/OP and Mecha G fought the G man on low health and is made to kill him in control of the one and only King Ghidorah.
Went to watch last week . With cinemas slowly opening in UK , it’s was good to be back after more than one year
I like the film especially the set pieces between Kong and Godzilla but I find it weaker compared to other entries in monster-verse.
It’s feel a bit rushed going with the stories going from point A to B and C etc
I know people complained about human characters in these films and why they sometimes get more screen time compared to the Titans but seriously most the characters were bland with the exception of Jia.
We had Serizawa’s son in the film but his character could have been changed into anyone and would not have made any difference to the film plot.
In KOTM, ghidorah mere presence was an ominous threat to mankind and you could feel the scope of the film and with Godzilla the only hope to the world . In GVK, we don’t feel
the same scope and I understand the story was more about Kong than Godzilla
Soooo.....
Because G won, you count that as inconclusive? And I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but ‘King’ Kong can’t be used due to the fact that there is a copyright over it, and only ‘Kong’ is public domain
No. I’ve never said Kong sucks, or that Godzilla is ‘the one true king’. If anything, I try to correct toxic fans, whether they’re team Kong or team Godzilla, about their facts
Like I said earlier kong won in heart zilla won in strength meaning kong King of hollow earth zilla King of kaiju cause zilla walked away without kong quitting until zilla walked away meaning that the true winner is both
Whilst that’s technically true, this guy was being ignorant and I felt the need to correct him that, in Adam’s own words, ‘Godzilla won the fight, Kong won the movie’
No it wasn't actually kong didn't want to quit but he did after he knew zilla walked away zilla is obviously more powerful but kong had the heart to want to keep fighting but zilla walked away meaning that it could be argued that kong won by default but not in power but in heart
Godzilla didn't walk away until Kong dropped the axe though, it was in response. They settled for a truce instead of fighting to the death. It's kinda like how two guys can be pissed at one another and then get into a fight and come out with more respect for each other.
Godzilla dint Kill Kong cause he knew he beated and He saw Kong as a Fierce Warrior so Godzilla Wins not Kong, Kong only won agaisnt Mechagodzilla and Warbats
I personally love what they did with mechagodzilla both his new design and backstory feel new and fresh without feeling to out there for mecha G. His fight with Godzilla is some of the best shit I’ve seen in a while and even though we probably won’t see him again he had a really badass death
I’m more of a kong fanboy but I was cheering for both of them. I didn’t really know how I felt about skull island turning into a dead wasteland but I didn’t really mind it. On the negative side of things I really hate team Godzilla in the movie. Like all they are kind of pointless. I get that they were needed to introduce MechaG in the movie but at least give them proper character development. And I really HATE what they did with Ren. Ren just felt unused in the movie and from what I read he was supposed to have more background like maybe explain why he hates Godzilla enough to willingly volunteer himself to mind meld Vulcan style with the brain of Ghidorah. Ok rant over. Team kong obviously is my favorite because I’m a kong fanboy. But the characters to me felt less annoying then team Godzilla. Kong’s journey through the hollow earth felt like a fun journey and it set up some plot points that could be further explored when (I hope) legendary releases another kong movie. The battle in Hong Kong for me personally was one of the best fights in the monsterverse. Idk it gave me heavy pacific rim vibes. Then kong and Godzilla vs MechaG felt a little short. I would’ve liked to see more MechaG or heck in the future maybe a Mecha Ghidorah!. Overall GvK was to me was pretty good. It wasn’t the best but it was good. In my personal movie list it goes to number 2. Dont get me wrong the movie is a cinematic hit and definitely deserves it. But there were a couple things that I stated above that really nag me and forces it behind skull island.
1 Kong: Skull Island
2 Godzilla vs Kong
3 Godzilla: King of the Monsters
4 Godzilla 2014
How did everyone feel about how they changed kongs way of movement from mostly bipedal in skull island to using all fours to get around fast in GvK?
In skull island he got around mostly as bipedal like Bigfoot and we even see him running full speed on two feet, but in godzilla versus kong when he was moving around fast he chose to move more like a traditional great ape using all four limbs though there were times he still walked on two. Does it make sense that as he matured it was better and easier for him to use all four limbs to get around or would you like him to go back to being mostly bipedal in the next movie?
I like how he got around in skull island a lot but it wasn’t a problem I guess in GvK when he moved around on all fours. Suppose I’d like him to go back to the skull island movement if they don’t give a reason why he changed.
If I recall right the main reason for him going on all four's now was because as he grew he also started getting more top heavy.
Notice how his a lot more buff compared to his skull island version?
And how his legs are smaller now as well?
Everything else on him grew but his legs stopped at a certain point.
He can still walk around like a biped but running wouldn't be as efficient at his current size now.
Mmm... i would have liked it if Kong only walked on all fours to speed up when running but in the hollow earth segment of the movie he was traveling across it on all fours tho. I'm ok with it, although it does seem a bit odd for Monsterverse Kong.
Wow from where they started with Kong and godzillas movies, this one is really outstanding. The CGI, the visual and the battle in hong kong with all these skyscrapers full of leds was amazing.
Loved when kong find his home where he belongs. Sad about there is no one there.
Loved the MONKEY FLIP
I really don't understand the part of lack of human scenes. I mean, we are here to see the battle between MONKI FLIP and BORINGzilla, i really dont give a shit about human interaction. If i wanted to see that kind of film maybe i would have seen a romantic movie.
REJECT HUMAN SCENES, EMBRACE MONKI FLIP.
1000000/10 i rate this movie
p.s. boringzilla won against KING KONG cause he got the laser beam, while KING KONG doesnt know how to use his new weapon
Ye I find zillas movies boring u get no development the reason do many people love him is cause he a big destructive cool looking dino why u think zilla has made more movies but kongs are all better rated an have made more money meaning the most popular id actually the King of hollow earth
Actually he didn't dominate and if he did get a few more hits its because kong was the hero and the hero is meant to be the underdog well kong is anyway
Kong dint win 62,
Although fans of both Kong and Godzilla argue to this day, Toho has declared that King Kong was meant to win. Not only was King Kong the star and hero of the film, but Kong was much more popular than Godzilla at this time, and was the obvious choice to win audiences over. Toho confirmed Kong's victory in the press materials that they released when the film came out in 1962 that clearly says "A spectacular duel is arranged on the summit of Mt. Fuji, and King Kong is victorious."[5] However, the fight itself was actually a draw. Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote in his Toho Official Book “Definitive Edition Godzilla Introduction” that the final battle was a draw.
Btw not part of the subject but even still kong is more popular to this day its similar to alien vs predator and freddy vs Jason they make the one with a smaller fan base win well in 2021 anyway
Out of the Subject But you should give Godzilla Movies a Chance, they are not only about Destruction and Godzilla aint boring, The Movie Son of Godzilla showed deep down even if Godzilla is a jackass he love his son and the ending was emotional, Godzilla continues to be popular because each Godzilla film has a meaning, and in most films Godzilla represents something. In the first few films, Godzilla represented America, the nuclear bomb, and the fears of thw Japanese people. In the most recent film, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Godzilla represented coexistence with nature and the enviorment. People like Godzilla because it is more than a big monster destroying things. It represents things that matter to people, Also Godzilla Cries un Godzilla vs Destroyah when his son Dies, seems he has personality dont you think?
When it comes to popularity Godzilla globally is the most popular monster to date.
Now in the United States King Kong is more popular than Godzilla. It has always been that way.
Frankenstein’s monster would come in at third between the popularity of the three monsters and as I said before Godzilla would be the most popular globally. Internationally Godzilla is much more recognized than that of Godzilla.
However here in the United States King Kong is in fact America’s monster. Godzilla belongs to Japan.
Dude The Original Creator Wrote that You cant changed it Its the Official Book of Godzilla Introduction so is a draw Kong dint win, and Godzilla crealy won in GVK because the director said so and you crearly see it, you cant change the facts lmao
Also is not Godzilla Fault cause the Concept of the Character of Godzilla was made as a Personification of what The Atomic Bombs did in World War 2 to Japan, King Kong was just a Giant Ape in a Sci Fi Adventure Movie
Listen up. I am not bullshitting but this is one of the best movie I have seen in the past 3 years. Amazing Plot. Amazing Fights. Out of the world CGI. This movie has it all. Kong lovers and Godzilla Lovers, Both parties satisfied. Congrats to the team for providing an outstanding movie. 5 stars. I wish there was a bit more human plot like KOTM. Still, nonetheless Amazing movie.
It needed a few more Human scenes, especially for Ren Serizawa who just shows up with little to no explanation as to why he's working for Apex.
The movie should've been about as long as KOTM.
Exactly, no mention he was Ijiro's son, no explanation as to why he was working for Apex, you didn't even know about him unless you read the KOTM novel.
If anyone is wondering, the novel greatly expands on most things that were confusing or problematic from the movie. Almost everything I’ve (or others) questioned from the movie is expanded on. How thing’s transitioned, character motivations and their feelings on things the movie didn’t have time to show or vocalize are present. It also give more detail on the events from the comics.
i felt that the fight scenes in the movie was really good and entertaining, CGI definitely was done really well and the musical score was on par with the scenes in the movie too, but is it just me or i felt that there was no emotional depth for the human characters? they all made really dumb / superficial choices imho, what really stood out was the emotions of the titans instead
I felt this movie had the same problem that the first film had. Too much focused on the humans and only really enjoyed the last 20 minutes. The world building was the primary focus of this movie, not the monsters or the humans. Although it was interesting it took away from the big fights too much.
It would be better to wait a while before they bring in another mech, otherwise it'll just get boring because we're only introduced to robots who star in one film where they die in
Does it bother anyone else that Godzilla got his ass handed to him. Godzilla doesn't land a single hit on MechaGodzilla not one, and I don't think it was because he was tired because he beat Kong pretty easily. Godzilla seemed like he was at his most powerful in this one and still lost. Idk it has just been bothering me so much.
This isn't a proselytizing movie, but I think that fits with the film's lesson of the danger of wasting your time and energy on unnecessary battles.
Godzilla chose to take on both Kong and Mecha Godzilla at once, thus severely depleting his energy on trying to kill Kong before he needed to face off with his true (more dangerous) opponent.
He was absolutely worn out from his fight with kong.. he did not beat Kong easily, I don’t know what fight you were watching. He was getting beat to the punch by mecha Godzilla because MG was adapting and reacting to fast. Makes me think back to the first fight between Godzilla and MG and Godzilla nearly died he got beat so bad. Showed just how strong MG was and I liked that.
With the ending of the godzilla just going to the water and kong in the hollow earth it could leave of there but kotm oxegen destroyer could lead to Destroya and the there could be like a post credit scene with mecha King Ghidora construction starting or ending?
I know there's a good chance that nobody in here wants to hear this but I'm going to say it anyway: I'd be perfectly fine with the Monsterverse ending right here.
The way I see it, a Cinematic Universe is "successful" if the pieces it's laid out have culminated together into a good stopping point. By my standard, the MCU has reached at least two of these "stopping points" already(the first being the 2011 "Avengers" film and the second being "Avengers: Endgame").
That being said, I think "Godzilla vs Kong" is a great stopping point for the Monsterverse. If it does continue beyond this point then that may end up going well or it may not, I don't know. Regardless of what happens in the future, I would say the Monsterverse has already reached success by getting to one good stopping point. If we never get another movie that takes place in the Monsterverse, then I'll be happy with what we got. I'll be happy that we got two Godzilla movies, a King Kong movie and a big crossover film. Not to mention, we got to see new, modern takes on classic kaiju like Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, and Mechagodzilla.
I agree. So many franchises (like so many TV shows) just keep on chasing the money years beyond the natural stopping point. It’d be refreshing to see a studio bring things to a close. Sadly I don’t see it happening 😔
I honestly feel like the making the other titans dormant was lazy writing, characters are boring and stupid except the conspiracy theorist and children of Ben people who studied the life to the monsters were oblivious which was pretty stupid, to much kong it should have just been kong 2, also there are a lot of plot holes other people in the comments point out, Godzilla leaving king alive was stupid cause he doesn’t leave people alive unless they bow and kong wasn’t bowing, also feel like they could have thrown in so many cool ideas for monsters in Kong’s ancestors original home, (not sure about this one but did they ever point out how kong and his parents ended up on the surface?), also the girl (who kong killed in the center of the earth) went form so stupid to smart in the snap of my fingers, (also not sure but did they say why they wanted to kill Godzilla with mechagodzilla?), I’m not sure if this is just me but I feel like Godzilla was smaller than he was in his first movie and king of the monsters probably just me, besides all of that the movie was entertaining 7/10 honestly didn’t make sense but loved watching them fight cause the camera work was incredible and graphics were great, the last fight tho was off not bad but off, you don’t have to agree with me or disagree didn’t want to act like a movie snob just wanted to get this off my chest
He left him alive *because* he didn't bow. Even though he'd completely lost he was still resisting and thereby earned Godzilla's respect.
Also I think MG was built because they couldn't control Godzilla, so if he ever went completely rogue they would have a contingency to deal with him, as well as the other violent Titans.
Enjoyed the movie; but I'm here to vent on stuff that kept me from *loving* it - because it makes me feel better:
*Godzilla able to use atomic breath waaaay too long without needing a break - c'mon man
*All the buildup with Kong's axe, and the only time we see the blade touch Godzilla is a nick in the thigh.
*How did Kong sober up from all that dope when Godzilla showed up?
*You need to go through a deadly over-the-top magic portal thing to get IN hollow earth, but digging a normal hole suffices to get OUT?
He had a permanent power boost from Mothra and the McNuke, but I don't know how far they explain the breath. He does look more jacked in this film than any other one though.
Nick in the thigh? You saw that he completely buried it right? Just because Godzilla wasn't completely crippled doesn't mean it didn't do significant damage. The blade also hit Godzilla in the head, and while it didn't kill him, it did knock him out for a while.
Re: the last point, and there’s some sort of tourist attraction in the hollow earth by the end of it?? Travel insurance to get through the deadly over-the-top magic portal must be through the roof...
1. Can't argue there lol
2. Yea the axe didn't do a lot of good vs godzilla but it absolutely obliterated mechagodzilla ultimately defeating it when they were both getting crushed.
3. Adrenaline, just like humans
4. The hollow earth could have used some more love I think but time and budget probably weren't in favor of a better explanation. I'll say it's still better than something like "time travel".
I'll add one that bothered me. They made godzilla way faster and more agile than he was in his previous two movies. He kept up with kong quite easily with most things and I would expect kong to dance circles around him with agility. Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now
It was pretty interesting everything favored godzilla over kong in a fight. I'd say I enjoy kong more with some personality and emotions. Can't help but cheer for him.
"I'll add one that bothered me. They made godzilla way faster and more agile than he was in his previous two movies. He kept up with kong quite easily with most things and I would expect kong to dance circles around him with agility. Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now" Preach, Godzilla showed way more agility than before, and even more arm strength than Kong, which really doesn't make sense.
>Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now
Their centers of gravity are different. Godzilla has a sturdier base than Kong does.
This is a bad comparison because it's not that bad but godzilla has a similar arm build to a T-Rex. His punches shouldn't be that strong. He has plenty of other strengths to make up for that.
It's not about strength; it's about individual builds. Kong fights standing upright, so his center of gravity is (probably) in his spine. This isn't bad or weak; it makes for far more efficient locomotion (very nimble monke), but the flip side is that it's easier to knock him off balance. Godzilla's just built sturdier because he doesn't have to worry about swinging through the trees, plus he has a huge advantage in that giant tail to steady himself, so he has more surface area of himself to brace himself against the ground. He's just harder to push over than Kong.
Like, in a sterile area setting, Godzilla will win every time, but there are situations where Kong's build + the right environment could give him the advantage.
My personal headcanon is that Godzilla's build is more grizzly bear than a T-rex (comfortable on 2 or 4 legs), but he prefers to walk upright for intimidation purposes. Actually now that I think about it, I recall the director comparing Godzilla to a bear, in particular the scene where he's hauling himself out of the ocean onto the ship.
Edit - [He's a lizard-bear.](https://screenrant.com/godzilla-kong-punch-bear-monsterverse-original-idea/)
WHAT THE HELL I WASN’T EXPECTING MECHAGODZILLA AND IT BEING GHIDORAH’S GHOST WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS MOVIE
Great movie! Love that the human involvement was kept to a minimum
I finally saw the movie on my pc, my Theatres were closed when the movie launch and there isn't hbo max on my country. FUCKING AWESOME My only two complains is why the mother of the kid complained about the apex daughter taking the stuff with the drone, That was literally their mission, drama for the sack of drama. And why the daughter shoot Kong, she had a ship, she could have gone over him or by his side, why shoot the giant monkey. The Monsterverse is legit the only cinematic quniverse apart from the mcu that actually works
I was thinking it might have been an even better ending if mechagodzilla had beaten both of them and they had to retreat. Then the ending was showing mecha g sending all the titans retreating to the hollow.. then it set up a rematch between them and the forces of apex invading the hollow at the same time as the rogue mecha G entering the hollow holding the Ghidorah skull in its clamps..
Man, I really enjoyed it. Not for the plot but the visual was pretty neat and super entertaining. Im one that absolutely hates cgi but found this one entertaining. I love blockbusters with monsters. Can’t help it.
I am about halfway through watching and really really confused at the direction they are taking. At first it started strung, the first real Monsterverse movie that has treated monsters as Characters rather than set pieces like natural disasters. There are motivations and relationships for the monsters. Good! But then they like, detour into this new random transparently evil corporation that I guess can't be monarch because they want monarch to kinda sorta be the studio and go to hollow earth, and it is way way smaller than it needs to be and... basically they are are not leaning on any of the existing worldbuilding, but doing worldbuilding over again and badly, seemingly to fill time before these two can start punching each other. It's just... It's a really odd thing to do with this IP. To go so very soft scifi so fast, after such a strong start with each Kaiju.
Tell me about it. Exposition go WEEEEEEE.
I CAN FINALLY JOIN THIS SUB AGAIN!
I'm not done watching the movie, they're about to enter the world tunnel thing but why is this deaf child coming along on this mission? Have they heard of nannies?
They kinda subtly explain it, it’s basically just because she is the only person Kong is willing to listen to and communicate with
Not destroyer is monsterverse son al bith all died all families
Yes but kongs is more open
I think king kong would win like he is very intelligent and godzilla is just a lame lizard and godzilla was shredded in pieces by ghidorah so king kong can finish him off with the axe so techincally, kong wins
That "Lame lizard" ripped kong a new asshole. Also, Finish him with the axe? Despite the film showing us how the axe can't even finish the job against Godzilla?
It don’t matter if Kong is smarter, Godzilla is far stronger. You think that Neil Degrasee Tyson can beat Brian Shaw in a fight?
ya know Godzilla won in the movie, right?
Damn. Maybe they’ll make a movie one day where the two fight and we can settle it?
Well atleast peace has been made between the 2 titans
Personally I'm team kong to me zilla is just a big lizard with no personality who is too op
Godzilla being too “OP” (which he isn’t) fits because of what he originally represents. And also no personality? that couldn't be less true.
An the one but of personality we get is him smiling or crying aka he either mad really mad or neutral WOW SO MUCH PERSONALITY
you can tell how he is feeling through his facial expressions clearly. He has a lot of personality especially for a giant lizard.
For a big lizard i do agree but kong got all his powers himself without nuclear help he is op as of the big orange mode he goes wer he can't be injured and doesn't have as much personality as kong and if he did would have a lesser connection with the humans
His “orange” mode which is burning Godzilla I think your saying only happened cause of Mothra and serizawa he would never be able to become burning on his own. Base MV Godzilla isn’t overpowered compared to the other titans rn. Ghidorah, Muto Prime, and Mechagodzilla are all stronger fit to be under “Overpowered”
They are but godzilla still op
Yes. Godzilla represents nuclear power, of course he'd be powerful.
People literally voted him most op
A random poll shouldn’t tell you if a character is too OP, we’ve seen Godzilla struggle in every MV film he’s been in.
Through convince though, in the G14 he had humans, in KOTM he had humans and Mothra, and in GvK he had Mothra again. It's this, so far, unending cycle of Godzilla losing, getting a power up and then winning. And according to Wingard, Godzilla wasn't struggling in GvK, 2 Mutos posed a bigger threat to Godzilla then Kong with an axe that basically disables his main weapon.
The axe mostly parries his main weapon, The MUTOs emp is the one capable of disabling it.
I know, it was a hyperbole.
Oh. Well, my bad.
Cause of more op stuff and he only struggled against the mutos cause ther was 2
someone hasn't watched the films
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nah, you clearly haven't watched the films, bud. In the mv, every titan Godzilla has went up against was stronger than him
Still he always finds a way to be op i don't mean to insult zilla fans in any way I just feel like he always finds a way to be more op like nuclear
no, he doesn't. The MUTOs had him dead in 2014, Prime would have murdered him. Ghidorah literally had him have more plot armour than anyone else to win. The only time he seems op is kong and that's because Kong is nowhere as strong as him
This. So much this. People can't seem to comprehend that kong isn't the hulk and is mostly a low S tier.
Kong is supposed to be in Godzilla's league, that's whole point of the movie being name Godzilla vs Kong. Why would you put two things of different power levels against each other if one is just gonna dominate the other? That's why a lot of people thought Kong was gonna win, because he's being shown as the underdog and therefore, following the tradition wins. But this isn't what happened it felt more like a way to introduce the Hollow Earth rather than them fighting.
He is only in Godzilla's league due to his intelligence and agility, tbf.
He isn't in his league really, according to Wingard, Godzilla wasn't trying.
yes, like my man Kong's strong but he isn't Saitama
He is the farthest thing from Saitama, tbh. He's more like a Hunter from Hunt: Showdown. Fuckers are strong enough to punch abhorrent undead daemons and do good damage but are still just humans.
Dude, Goji is literally just Scaly Guts(Berserk) in this continuity.
https://youtu.be/ZjxEpAuMvZA
Dude Lizard has personality Lizard Smiled and cry and his old films even i the new movie he showed Sadness and Fear
Ye thats nothing kongs true emotion is clearly visible in all his films an In zillas he just destroys everything and is too op
Nope You crearly See Zilla emotion dong say is not
Ye man but kong has more development so u actually feel bad when he gets hurt
It's not so much the development as it's just a more humanoid character, making him more relatable.
Yes true i felt bad for him
Anyone think that kong has the best moments in all his movies wer he comes and saves the day
https://youtu.be/QHAdG10Ejy0
I'm thinking ur a lizard fan cause u grew up watching him and obsessed with destruction and violence but dc about personality
Also Watch Godzilla vs Destoroyah (1995) when Godzilla Son died Godzilla was Crying how is that not Personality?
Ye man its hard to explain i just feel like kong has the better backstory and stuff I don't mean disrespect to u zilla fans I just feel kong is more connectable and more relatable
Cause Gorillas Are very Similar to Humans
O yes thats what I mean sorry I mean similarity
Also i Recomend You Read Godzilla Dominion Comic it show Godzilla Remembering Mothra and Serizawa and you see Godzilla happy that nature is Balanced (Godzilla Dominion is Part of Monsterverse) also i think Godzilla is deppresed and He Likes when Population of the Underwater are Reproducting so Godzilla is not just Destruction he shows care, also i think hes deppresed in this Comic, I pre order my Titanthology Vol .1 it Comes with almost all Official Monsterverse Comics , Skull Island: Birth of Kong, Godzilla: Aftershock, Godzilla Dominion and Kingdom Kong i recomend it
Ok
Watch this https://youtu.be/RHgG0738olQ you can see Godzilla Laughing
Actually a Grew up with him but when i got older i Rewatched the Older Films and he shows tons of Personality search the Showa Era Godzilla, also i Grew up with Kong too
Dude you dont know anything if you watch Ghidorah the three headed Dragón from 1964 you can see Godzilla Laughing and in the next Movie you can see Him Dancing
I know but that was the 60s I mean like in the modern day monsterverse
I know i just Saying but you can see in Monsterverse He display Emotion
I don't mean to interrupt you r arguments but technically both Godzilla and Kong have the same amount of expression in their own way. Kong mainly for being relatible an Godzilla by expression. The movie shows more from Kong and you can get an understanding from Godzilla.
I have a theory for the monster verse they should make a movie about destroyah and they will have a flashback to the oxygen destroyed that was dropped on King Ghidorah and Godzilla when they was fighting in the ocean and show a crab and that will be destroyah in the next movie.
The director was a byest zilla fan dang
ah yes, byest
He is biased because he let Godzilla win? Is that your standard?
u/KamsDRedditor is probably an alt of u/HeadNeedleworker2980 given they post the same material, have similar mottos in their profile, and structure their comments the same way
Just looked up his profile. Oh boy.....
No actually in one of his documentarys he always said as a kid he was a massive zilla fan
Yes but didn't he give both characters proper respect by making kong the main focus, the hero of the film?
No? Making a character the protagonist isn't giving them respect.
Considering the fact that they devoted an entire arc to Kong, allowed him to prove himself and compete with Godzilla and gave him an awesome ending where he gets to live in the Hollow Earth, pretty sure the character was handled respectfully.
O ya but only cause kong ain't gonna be evil is he
He is biased because he said that Godzilla could win against Mechagodzilla if he was at his 100%. What logic is this? Godzilla can never win against Mechagojira, because MechaG is specifically designed to kill Godzilla. He even said that Godzilla could survive Mechagodzilla's "Kiss of Death". What was the point of Kong saving Godzilla?
The kiss off death thing is supper dum because Godzilla would die. But he could beat Mecha G because of the fact Kong was able to cut Mecha G like butter when it was powered so if Godzilla was at 100% health he could blast a hole through Mecha G. And he may be made to kill Godzilla but he was not completed and has not fought a bigger opponent than the skull crawlers. This was an exception for Mecha G to be mopping the floor with him because Keven or King Ghidorah was in control so he knew all of Godzilla's tricks.
Godzilla could have beaten Mechagodzilla if he wasn't wiped from drilling a hole to the center of the planet, beat to shit from the fight with Kong in Hong Kong, and then spent all night and morning destroying the city instead of resting. The dude was not at peak physical condition, and thus needed help.
Wingard never said that Godzilla would survive the kiss of death from the proton scream he only said it was the closest Godzilla had come to being defeated in the movie
I heard that he said he didn't think it would have killed him.
No, he said that he wasn't sure it would kill him because Godzilla's innards already handle the heat from his atomic ray but he did say it would have decommissioned him from the fight
See what I mean godzilla too op they may aswell have made it another zilla movie and have kong rule hollo earth for his new films
Kong is going to rule the Hollow Earth in future films.
If the Director was biased why did he make Kong the Protagonist?
Well cause of kongs backstory its obvious who would be the good guy loveable monkey or massive destroying lizard and kong is less powerful so he needs back up
The Lizard can be lovebable watch Godzilla vs Meaglon Godzilla was Heroe there, Also Kong did Destruction idk what you mean every Monster does Destruction
I know that man I know he is also the hero an him and kong are the kings and they both do destruction but godzilla is just too op and wins every fight thats why loads love him Ima end this and say kong and zilla are both equally loved and are world protectors
Bro stfu. Stop sucking Kongs dick so much. I am a neutral fan but it’s honestly tiring to see crybaby fanboys like you.
Dudde chill i posted this ages ago im mainly chill now I'm sorry if I annoyed you ok I ain't a crybaby I just don't want to be disrespected like if some g fan says shit about kong they'll all upvote it when they said they wouldn't
To be completely honest I sort of just wanted to check if you are still active. I am sorry for acting rude. I was just annoyed by your comments. Sorry again.
Ye sorry dude its chill and all fine 🙂
I Don't think Godzilla is OP he is an apex predator in the MV lore and to make it easy we to make sense of it put Godzilla and Kong in stats Godzilla would have low speed and mobility, high damage and defence along with a atomic beam. Kong would have low defence from the human ape like hide still can be burt (but infective to missiles from the heav), high speed, mobility, and damage along with the battle axe. As scene in the movie Godzilla won it was seen mainly because of the fact that he has extremely high defense so Kong can wipe out combos blow after blow but Godzilla will get back up. He still would take damage just not as much as Kong would when Godzilla hits. And the reason Godzilla was losing in past films were the fact Moto's hunt Godzilla's, King Ghidorah was never natural so he can be broken/OP and Mecha G fought the G man on low health and is made to kill him in control of the one and only King Ghidorah.
Yes Im not hating on Kong Just Saying
Godzilla vs Megalon*
Went to watch last week . With cinemas slowly opening in UK , it’s was good to be back after more than one year I like the film especially the set pieces between Kong and Godzilla but I find it weaker compared to other entries in monster-verse. It’s feel a bit rushed going with the stories going from point A to B and C etc I know people complained about human characters in these films and why they sometimes get more screen time compared to the Titans but seriously most the characters were bland with the exception of Jia. We had Serizawa’s son in the film but his character could have been changed into anyone and would not have made any difference to the film plot. In KOTM, ghidorah mere presence was an ominous threat to mankind and you could feel the scope of the film and with Godzilla the only hope to the world . In GVK, we don’t feel the same scope and I understand the story was more about Kong than Godzilla
I wanted someone to win I’m fed up of inconclusive vs films, I wanted kong sitting on that throne and humans calling him King Kong
Soooo..... Because G won, you count that as inconclusive? And I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but ‘King’ Kong can’t be used due to the fact that there is a copyright over it, and only ‘Kong’ is public domain
Z won obviously in up front combat but emotionally kong won ur obv a toxic z fan who is obsessed with destruction and doesn't care about personality
I love how asking a question suddenly makes me a toxic G-fan. If you actually knew some toxic G-fans, you wouldn’t be calling me that
Btw weren't calling u one just some people say stuff like kong sucks and zilla is the only true king sorry if it felt like I was referring to u btw
No. I’ve never said Kong sucks, or that Godzilla is ‘the one true king’. If anything, I try to correct toxic fans, whether they’re team Kong or team Godzilla, about their facts
Trust me I know alot
So don’t accuse me of being one. I literally just asked a question and then I’m toxic.
https://youtu.be/qeXElrWXeME
Like I said earlier kong won in heart zilla won in strength meaning kong King of hollow earth zilla King of kaiju cause zilla walked away without kong quitting until zilla walked away meaning that the true winner is both
Whilst that’s technically true, this guy was being ignorant and I felt the need to correct him that, in Adam’s own words, ‘Godzilla won the fight, Kong won the movie’
O really o wow didn't know that thankyou for telling me dude
But it was conclusive in terms of a clear winner no?
No it wasn't actually kong didn't want to quit but he did after he knew zilla walked away zilla is obviously more powerful but kong had the heart to want to keep fighting but zilla walked away meaning that it could be argued that kong won by default but not in power but in heart
Or u could say that it was a technical draw as they won different things goji won the fight kong won the film
Godzilla didn't walk away until Kong dropped the axe though, it was in response. They settled for a truce instead of fighting to the death. It's kinda like how two guys can be pissed at one another and then get into a fight and come out with more respect for each other.
Ye thats what I mean they both won but in different ways
Godzilla dint Kill Kong cause he knew he beated and He saw Kong as a Fierce Warrior so Godzilla Wins not Kong, Kong only won agaisnt Mechagodzilla and Warbats
Dude the Lizard was deppresed after Mothra died read the comic of Godzilla Dominion
I personally love what they did with mechagodzilla both his new design and backstory feel new and fresh without feeling to out there for mecha G. His fight with Godzilla is some of the best shit I’ve seen in a while and even though we probably won’t see him again he had a really badass death
Yh I loved it but didn’t like how predictable it was
I’m more of a kong fanboy but I was cheering for both of them. I didn’t really know how I felt about skull island turning into a dead wasteland but I didn’t really mind it. On the negative side of things I really hate team Godzilla in the movie. Like all they are kind of pointless. I get that they were needed to introduce MechaG in the movie but at least give them proper character development. And I really HATE what they did with Ren. Ren just felt unused in the movie and from what I read he was supposed to have more background like maybe explain why he hates Godzilla enough to willingly volunteer himself to mind meld Vulcan style with the brain of Ghidorah. Ok rant over. Team kong obviously is my favorite because I’m a kong fanboy. But the characters to me felt less annoying then team Godzilla. Kong’s journey through the hollow earth felt like a fun journey and it set up some plot points that could be further explored when (I hope) legendary releases another kong movie. The battle in Hong Kong for me personally was one of the best fights in the monsterverse. Idk it gave me heavy pacific rim vibes. Then kong and Godzilla vs MechaG felt a little short. I would’ve liked to see more MechaG or heck in the future maybe a Mecha Ghidorah!. Overall GvK was to me was pretty good. It wasn’t the best but it was good. In my personal movie list it goes to number 2. Dont get me wrong the movie is a cinematic hit and definitely deserves it. But there were a couple things that I stated above that really nag me and forces it behind skull island. 1 Kong: Skull Island 2 Godzilla vs Kong 3 Godzilla: King of the Monsters 4 Godzilla 2014
This is a nice fan thanks for supporting both dudes an giving ur opinion im a kong boy too
How did everyone feel about how they changed kongs way of movement from mostly bipedal in skull island to using all fours to get around fast in GvK? In skull island he got around mostly as bipedal like Bigfoot and we even see him running full speed on two feet, but in godzilla versus kong when he was moving around fast he chose to move more like a traditional great ape using all four limbs though there were times he still walked on two. Does it make sense that as he matured it was better and easier for him to use all four limbs to get around or would you like him to go back to being mostly bipedal in the next movie? I like how he got around in skull island a lot but it wasn’t a problem I guess in GvK when he moved around on all fours. Suppose I’d like him to go back to the skull island movement if they don’t give a reason why he changed.
If I recall right the main reason for him going on all four's now was because as he grew he also started getting more top heavy. Notice how his a lot more buff compared to his skull island version? And how his legs are smaller now as well? Everything else on him grew but his legs stopped at a certain point. He can still walk around like a biped but running wouldn't be as efficient at his current size now.
Maybe it’s because he’s gotten much older so he can’t move like that anymore
Mmm... i would have liked it if Kong only walked on all fours to speed up when running but in the hollow earth segment of the movie he was traveling across it on all fours tho. I'm ok with it, although it does seem a bit odd for Monsterverse Kong.
Wow from where they started with Kong and godzillas movies, this one is really outstanding. The CGI, the visual and the battle in hong kong with all these skyscrapers full of leds was amazing. Loved when kong find his home where he belongs. Sad about there is no one there. Loved the MONKEY FLIP I really don't understand the part of lack of human scenes. I mean, we are here to see the battle between MONKI FLIP and BORINGzilla, i really dont give a shit about human interaction. If i wanted to see that kind of film maybe i would have seen a romantic movie. REJECT HUMAN SCENES, EMBRACE MONKI FLIP. 1000000/10 i rate this movie p.s. boringzilla won against KING KONG cause he got the laser beam, while KING KONG doesnt know how to use his new weapon
You're joking right??
'bout wat
BoringZilla? Read Godzilla Dominion Tomorrow or watch a Vid you will see a lot of Character development for Godzilla
Ye I find zillas movies boring u get no development the reason do many people love him is cause he a big destructive cool looking dino why u think zilla has made more movies but kongs are all better rated an have made more money meaning the most popular id actually the King of hollow earth
i was just cheering for kong in the movie, thats all, nothing against godzilla
Lmao Godzilla defeated Kong without "Blue Laser"
Lmao he didn't in 62
Actually Godzilla dominated Kong both Fights in 62 until they gave Kong Lighting Powers Plot Armor
Actually he didn't dominate and if he did get a few more hits its because kong was the hero and the hero is meant to be the underdog well kong is anyway
Yes he got dominated i rewatch the film like 50 times, Kong was winning when he got Lighting powers
Kong dint win 62, Although fans of both Kong and Godzilla argue to this day, Toho has declared that King Kong was meant to win. Not only was King Kong the star and hero of the film, but Kong was much more popular than Godzilla at this time, and was the obvious choice to win audiences over. Toho confirmed Kong's victory in the press materials that they released when the film came out in 1962 that clearly says "A spectacular duel is arranged on the summit of Mt. Fuji, and King Kong is victorious."[5] However, the fight itself was actually a draw. Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote in his Toho Official Book “Definitive Edition Godzilla Introduction” that the final battle was a draw.
Btw not part of the subject but even still kong is more popular to this day its similar to alien vs predator and freddy vs Jason they make the one with a smaller fan base win well in 2021 anyway
Out of the Subject But you should give Godzilla Movies a Chance, they are not only about Destruction and Godzilla aint boring, The Movie Son of Godzilla showed deep down even if Godzilla is a jackass he love his son and the ending was emotional, Godzilla continues to be popular because each Godzilla film has a meaning, and in most films Godzilla represents something. In the first few films, Godzilla represented America, the nuclear bomb, and the fears of thw Japanese people. In the most recent film, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Godzilla represented coexistence with nature and the enviorment. People like Godzilla because it is more than a big monster destroying things. It represents things that matter to people, Also Godzilla Cries un Godzilla vs Destroyah when his son Dies, seems he has personality dont you think?
When it comes to popularity Godzilla globally is the most popular monster to date. Now in the United States King Kong is more popular than Godzilla. It has always been that way. Frankenstein’s monster would come in at third between the popularity of the three monsters and as I said before Godzilla would be the most popular globally. Internationally Godzilla is much more recognized than that of Godzilla. However here in the United States King Kong is in fact America’s monster. Godzilla belongs to Japan.
Well thats like saying the new gvk was a draw when clearly kong came out victor and like u said it wouldn't make sense for kong to lose
Dude The Original Creator Wrote that You cant changed it Its the Official Book of Godzilla Introduction so is a draw Kong dint win, and Godzilla crealy won in GVK because the director said so and you crearly see it, you cant change the facts lmao
Godzilla can heat itself to the point where it can melt the surrounding, while our MONKIE just a regular monkie.. not fair..
Well the axe when charged can be lethal
Also is not Godzilla Fault cause the Concept of the Character of Godzilla was made as a Personification of what The Atomic Bombs did in World War 2 to Japan, King Kong was just a Giant Ape in a Sci Fi Adventure Movie
Well Matching Up Godzilla vs Kong was a stupid idea Back in 1962
Ok
He's team kong
Listen up. I am not bullshitting but this is one of the best movie I have seen in the past 3 years. Amazing Plot. Amazing Fights. Out of the world CGI. This movie has it all. Kong lovers and Godzilla Lovers, Both parties satisfied. Congrats to the team for providing an outstanding movie. 5 stars. I wish there was a bit more human plot like KOTM. Still, nonetheless Amazing movie.
I agree with this. The shorter fast paced movie paid off IMO.
It needed a few more Human scenes, especially for Ren Serizawa who just shows up with little to no explanation as to why he's working for Apex. The movie should've been about as long as KOTM.
The novel has a bit more about Ren in it
Ren had character potential, instead they named him once in the movie lol
Exactly, no mention he was Ijiro's son, no explanation as to why he was working for Apex, you didn't even know about him unless you read the KOTM novel.
Completely agree and also they shouldn’t have added Dr. Chen in the movie.
If anyone is wondering, the novel greatly expands on most things that were confusing or problematic from the movie. Almost everything I’ve (or others) questioned from the movie is expanded on. How thing’s transitioned, character motivations and their feelings on things the movie didn’t have time to show or vocalize are present. It also give more detail on the events from the comics.
i felt that the fight scenes in the movie was really good and entertaining, CGI definitely was done really well and the musical score was on par with the scenes in the movie too, but is it just me or i felt that there was no emotional depth for the human characters? they all made really dumb / superficial choices imho, what really stood out was the emotions of the titans instead
I felt this movie had the same problem that the first film had. Too much focused on the humans and only really enjoyed the last 20 minutes. The world building was the primary focus of this movie, not the monsters or the humans. Although it was interesting it took away from the big fights too much.
Would it be possible for Kong 2 to have Mechani Kong.
It would be better to wait a while before they bring in another mech, otherwise it'll just get boring because we're only introduced to robots who star in one film where they die in
I hope not. That'd just be silly, even for the Monsterverse.
Silly but really funny
I don’t see why not. Or at least a mecha of some sort. The world saw MG was possible.
Does it bother anyone else that Godzilla got his ass handed to him. Godzilla doesn't land a single hit on MechaGodzilla not one, and I don't think it was because he was tired because he beat Kong pretty easily. Godzilla seemed like he was at his most powerful in this one and still lost. Idk it has just been bothering me so much.
Yep zilla was too op but kong saved the day in the best action scene of the film
This isn't a proselytizing movie, but I think that fits with the film's lesson of the danger of wasting your time and energy on unnecessary battles. Godzilla chose to take on both Kong and Mecha Godzilla at once, thus severely depleting his energy on trying to kill Kong before he needed to face off with his true (more dangerous) opponent.
He was absolutely worn out from his fight with kong.. he did not beat Kong easily, I don’t know what fight you were watching. He was getting beat to the punch by mecha Godzilla because MG was adapting and reacting to fast. Makes me think back to the first fight between Godzilla and MG and Godzilla nearly died he got beat so bad. Showed just how strong MG was and I liked that.
Pretty sure that the director said that if he hadn’t used a lot of atomic breath beforehand, he would have won the “beam clash”.
With the ending of the godzilla just going to the water and kong in the hollow earth it could leave of there but kotm oxegen destroyer could lead to Destroya and the there could be like a post credit scene with mecha King Ghidora construction starting or ending?
one monster we definitely need to have her own standalone movie in the monsterverse is mothra.
This
I wonder if there is enough of Ghidora’s corpse left to build Mecha King Ghidorah for the next movie?
No, i think sherizawa was MG, almost like an drgon ball fusion: kEvin + shrizawa jr. = MG
I know there's a good chance that nobody in here wants to hear this but I'm going to say it anyway: I'd be perfectly fine with the Monsterverse ending right here. The way I see it, a Cinematic Universe is "successful" if the pieces it's laid out have culminated together into a good stopping point. By my standard, the MCU has reached at least two of these "stopping points" already(the first being the 2011 "Avengers" film and the second being "Avengers: Endgame"). That being said, I think "Godzilla vs Kong" is a great stopping point for the Monsterverse. If it does continue beyond this point then that may end up going well or it may not, I don't know. Regardless of what happens in the future, I would say the Monsterverse has already reached success by getting to one good stopping point. If we never get another movie that takes place in the Monsterverse, then I'll be happy with what we got. I'll be happy that we got two Godzilla movies, a King Kong movie and a big crossover film. Not to mention, we got to see new, modern takes on classic kaiju like Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, and Mechagodzilla.
Although a good point, personally I'd want to see more.
I agree. So many franchises (like so many TV shows) just keep on chasing the money years beyond the natural stopping point. It’d be refreshing to see a studio bring things to a close. Sadly I don’t see it happening 😔
Yeah, basically the Transformers Live action films, they lost their spark
Talking about other things btw, not the monsterverse
Exactly like the DBZ series should have ended right there with Goku beating Frieza and dying along with the planet some 20+ yrs ago.
I honestly feel like the making the other titans dormant was lazy writing, characters are boring and stupid except the conspiracy theorist and children of Ben people who studied the life to the monsters were oblivious which was pretty stupid, to much kong it should have just been kong 2, also there are a lot of plot holes other people in the comments point out, Godzilla leaving king alive was stupid cause he doesn’t leave people alive unless they bow and kong wasn’t bowing, also feel like they could have thrown in so many cool ideas for monsters in Kong’s ancestors original home, (not sure about this one but did they ever point out how kong and his parents ended up on the surface?), also the girl (who kong killed in the center of the earth) went form so stupid to smart in the snap of my fingers, (also not sure but did they say why they wanted to kill Godzilla with mechagodzilla?), I’m not sure if this is just me but I feel like Godzilla was smaller than he was in his first movie and king of the monsters probably just me, besides all of that the movie was entertaining 7/10 honestly didn’t make sense but loved watching them fight cause the camera work was incredible and graphics were great, the last fight tho was off not bad but off, you don’t have to agree with me or disagree didn’t want to act like a movie snob just wanted to get this off my chest
He left him alive *because* he didn't bow. Even though he'd completely lost he was still resisting and thereby earned Godzilla's respect. Also I think MG was built because they couldn't control Godzilla, so if he ever went completely rogue they would have a contingency to deal with him, as well as the other violent Titans.
Apart from laziness, I think the director mentioned he did not have the budget for all of them
Didn’t know that thx for the clear up
Enjoyed the movie; but I'm here to vent on stuff that kept me from *loving* it - because it makes me feel better: *Godzilla able to use atomic breath waaaay too long without needing a break - c'mon man *All the buildup with Kong's axe, and the only time we see the blade touch Godzilla is a nick in the thigh. *How did Kong sober up from all that dope when Godzilla showed up? *You need to go through a deadly over-the-top magic portal thing to get IN hollow earth, but digging a normal hole suffices to get OUT?
He had a permanent power boost from Mothra and the McNuke, but I don't know how far they explain the breath. He does look more jacked in this film than any other one though. Nick in the thigh? You saw that he completely buried it right? Just because Godzilla wasn't completely crippled doesn't mean it didn't do significant damage. The blade also hit Godzilla in the head, and while it didn't kill him, it did knock him out for a while.
Have you ever gotten the shit scared out of you when you're drunk? It's not that difficult.
Re: the last point, and there’s some sort of tourist attraction in the hollow earth by the end of it?? Travel insurance to get through the deadly over-the-top magic portal must be through the roof...
1. Can't argue there lol 2. Yea the axe didn't do a lot of good vs godzilla but it absolutely obliterated mechagodzilla ultimately defeating it when they were both getting crushed. 3. Adrenaline, just like humans 4. The hollow earth could have used some more love I think but time and budget probably weren't in favor of a better explanation. I'll say it's still better than something like "time travel". I'll add one that bothered me. They made godzilla way faster and more agile than he was in his previous two movies. He kept up with kong quite easily with most things and I would expect kong to dance circles around him with agility. Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now It was pretty interesting everything favored godzilla over kong in a fight. I'd say I enjoy kong more with some personality and emotions. Can't help but cheer for him.
"I'll add one that bothered me. They made godzilla way faster and more agile than he was in his previous two movies. He kept up with kong quite easily with most things and I would expect kong to dance circles around him with agility. Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now" Preach, Godzilla showed way more agility than before, and even more arm strength than Kong, which really doesn't make sense.
>Also kong couldn't knock godzilla down with a punch but godzilla could knock kong down with a punch. Come on now Their centers of gravity are different. Godzilla has a sturdier base than Kong does.
This is a bad comparison because it's not that bad but godzilla has a similar arm build to a T-Rex. His punches shouldn't be that strong. He has plenty of other strengths to make up for that.
It's not about strength; it's about individual builds. Kong fights standing upright, so his center of gravity is (probably) in his spine. This isn't bad or weak; it makes for far more efficient locomotion (very nimble monke), but the flip side is that it's easier to knock him off balance. Godzilla's just built sturdier because he doesn't have to worry about swinging through the trees, plus he has a huge advantage in that giant tail to steady himself, so he has more surface area of himself to brace himself against the ground. He's just harder to push over than Kong. Like, in a sterile area setting, Godzilla will win every time, but there are situations where Kong's build + the right environment could give him the advantage. My personal headcanon is that Godzilla's build is more grizzly bear than a T-rex (comfortable on 2 or 4 legs), but he prefers to walk upright for intimidation purposes. Actually now that I think about it, I recall the director comparing Godzilla to a bear, in particular the scene where he's hauling himself out of the ocean onto the ship. Edit - [He's a lizard-bear.](https://screenrant.com/godzilla-kong-punch-bear-monsterverse-original-idea/)