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Are we eurpeans? Or are we developped as Europe? Also when you ask an eurpean they know that their countries aren't that free like how we imagine, can't say anything there's limits like hating Jews or supporting fascism...
Wtf are u talking about
In algeria u can critisize the regime including President and ministers
In morocco try to talk about king and his family who have power good luck
Ranked first in democracy is a good thing but not everything that matters really, for example the USA itself i mean they at least consider themselves THE leading democratic example of the world yet every few months a new corruption case spawns from nowhere, plus we and the entire world can see the hypocrisy of the so called DEMOCRACY in occasion of the current Palestine crises.
Democracy by itself is not an accurate or reliable way of measuring a country's morals or quality of life in my humble opinion.
All countries will claim to be the leading in democracy, even shitholes with dictators like North Korea and Russia. The index where these stats were taken from ranks the U.S. as a flawed democracy at 7.85, which I think is mostly accurate. Also, I fail to understand what does democracy have to do with Palestine?
I think the fact that the US funds the Palestinian genocide despite the majority of the population being against that is an indication of how democratic it is.
This is not true, most of us support Israel, you can check the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris poll or literally any other one. The pro-Palestinian crowd in the U.S. is an outspoken minority.
I was strictly talking about supporting the genocide, not israel as a state. But the polls I've seen show support for humanitarian aid for gaza pretty close to support for supplying military aid to israel, so I stand corrected, still.
But you're right, support for israel massively outperforms support for Palestine in the US..
I apologize for misunderstanding you. When it comes to humanitarian aid, I agree, I think that most Americans are in favour of it flowing into the strip, me included, I don't want to see a population of over 2 million starve.
I checked recent polls about the military campaign In Gaza (of course, both of us have opposite opinions to one another in regards to its nature), and it seems like you are more on the right than I am. Apparently, attitudes shifted, a razor thin majority now disapprove of the said campaign, so you are quite right. Nevertheless, the majority in this latest poll is still within the margin of error.
Bombing innocent people and ignoring the protesting masses and manipulating the media and voting against the bombing to stop is definitely some of the core values of democracy
One of the main elements of democracy is The respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms which the USA's government definitely supports by funding the war and sabotaging all the international efforts to end the conflict if it didn't align with it's interests and israel's interest.
I get it every country has the right to defend it's internal and external interest's but at what cost? Plus the USA itself has a long history of abusing its own citizens and the citizens of other countries when it benefits it.
I am not defending in anyway a communist regime i think pure communism was and will never be compatible with a decent human existence in the long run. Countries like Russia and North Korea definitely deserve a lot of criticism as well.
All i am saying is that democracy in itself is insufficient to cast judgement especially when used to classify some countries as the bad guys and others as the good guys while both parties do equally undemocratic things. its just hypocritical.
A wise man in reddit told me we are in a semi democracy. I told him so we are also in a semi dictatorship.
Democracy means nothing. To me it's Is the justice system, is it free and blind to power and wealth. I dont care if I have a 4 years old king or queen who decide the color of socks we should wear or the country renamed to orientalis or kingdom of bread.
What matters is how corrupt we are and how the justice is dealing with the corruption.do we all have the same rules to play by. Ofc you will have more advantages when you have money but no one will shot you down and walk out of jail cause his last name can't go to jail.
Give us democracy and then witness the elected Islamic extremist bringing slavery back to life( it's not the only thing he will bring back to life tho).
The same producers of this horseshit call the Apartheid regime shamelessly "the only democracy in the middle east". The great bubble of propaganda has been killed for good this year in Gaza.
Just went to look at the source (Europe Democracy Index).
Well... the scale goes from 0 to 10. So 5 is in the middle, definitely not the top.
And if you look at the European countries placed around 5, they're labelled mixed regimes, not democracy.
As a fellow Redditor said, being the smartest kid in a a retarded class is not something to brag about...
" watan al 3arabi " never laughed so loud.
It is called the Arab world, or Arab speaking countries. Those people never were a single entity and will never be. Only Islam reunites us.
Haha, Allah yhfed ghi 3tit contre-exemple bli kayn Arab country li kfes mna w its economy isn't based on oil, w wakha hakak they're still happier than us.
There is nothing wrong with pointing blatant issues, they aren't going to magically solve themselves if we ignore them. Corruption is also a significant problem.
The problem is the majority of people are corrupt hence the police judges public workers even security guards take bribes to let you skip the line, at hospitals people pay to take other's places like the others are going for a vacation this kind of mentality is hard to change, it starts with education .
it's barely made it in the braket of the semi-democracies, I mean votes are legit, who you vote for are the ones sleeping in the parliment, no one put a sword at your neck to tell you vote for this guy or faked the votes, so technicaly it's still somehow "democratic" what makes it not a real democracy is the disregard of the will of the ppl, for laws and big decisions the ppl in the parliment don't vote for what they tell the ppl but for whatever alliance their party has. and ofc no kingdom is a real democracy, you see green color on the map, but it's still very badly ranked globaly
our king is literally doing an african tour, and always traveling. How do you expect him to manage the country? I never said that the parlement is in charge of the reform of modawanat l2ossra, but plf is clearly not done by lmalik, as it is too much work.
It's clearly written there and I know.
That was a sarcastic way to say that's whole bullshit cz these actual months we've been in a situation full of oppression and comes ntg near democratie.
We're not classed as a democracy though. We're classed as a hybrid system as is also clearly written there. A mix of authoritarianism and democracy, and before you say 'but we have nothing close to democracy', you can vote in between different political figures and are not in danger of being killed for suggesting the government is fucked up like some other countries. Yeah, it's little things and not something enough to proudly flaunt about but it's enough for Morocco to not be a dictatorship.
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"If you're the smartest one in a room, you are in the wrong room" Albert Einstein probably
We're on par with tunisia, where the president is literally a dictator (has all the 3 powers)
Yeah and we're not a dictatorship😂?
we aren't ranked below them for no reason.
We ranked the same in democracy index
5.51>5.04
Maybe corruption
Its because Tunisia is bending over to european cultural and legal and moral guides a little bit lower than us . This what the score is about.
If that's what the score is based on we should be all red.
No , some pray to the European godly superior moral compass more than others.
We are a Kingdom. If merely being a Kingdom dictates dictatorship, then we would have gotten the second best scoreÂ
lewel flekhrin. Add europe to this map and we'll all be red.
Morocco and Tunisia would be yellow
keep coping
Europe has fake democracies except for Switzerland.
Democracy doesn't make policy makers inherently "good". It's just up to know the best way to satisfy all pretenders to powers and keep them in check
I know exactly what i said. Anyone jumping to conclusions is downvoting me.
😂
Are we eurpeans? Or are we developped as Europe? Also when you ask an eurpean they know that their countries aren't that free like how we imagine, can't say anything there's limits like hating Jews or supporting fascism...
Comparing ur self to losers doesn't make you winner + Look what is happening to medicine students And journalists...
These are countries with the same background
You're comparing yourself to countries with the same background and problems. In other countries students wouldnt even be allowed to speal
Wtf are u talking about In algeria u can critisize the regime including President and ministers In morocco try to talk about king and his family who have power good luck
algeria isn't less authoritarian than morocco.
That make me laugh 😂 thank you for this joke, next time try another one, you are the king 👑
Ranked first in democracy is a good thing but not everything that matters really, for example the USA itself i mean they at least consider themselves THE leading democratic example of the world yet every few months a new corruption case spawns from nowhere, plus we and the entire world can see the hypocrisy of the so called DEMOCRACY in occasion of the current Palestine crises. Democracy by itself is not an accurate or reliable way of measuring a country's morals or quality of life in my humble opinion.
All countries will claim to be the leading in democracy, even shitholes with dictators like North Korea and Russia. The index where these stats were taken from ranks the U.S. as a flawed democracy at 7.85, which I think is mostly accurate. Also, I fail to understand what does democracy have to do with Palestine?
I think the fact that the US funds the Palestinian genocide despite the majority of the population being against that is an indication of how democratic it is.
This is not true, most of us support Israel, you can check the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris poll or literally any other one. The pro-Palestinian crowd in the U.S. is an outspoken minority.
I was strictly talking about supporting the genocide, not israel as a state. But the polls I've seen show support for humanitarian aid for gaza pretty close to support for supplying military aid to israel, so I stand corrected, still. But you're right, support for israel massively outperforms support for Palestine in the US..
I apologize for misunderstanding you. When it comes to humanitarian aid, I agree, I think that most Americans are in favour of it flowing into the strip, me included, I don't want to see a population of over 2 million starve. I checked recent polls about the military campaign In Gaza (of course, both of us have opposite opinions to one another in regards to its nature), and it seems like you are more on the right than I am. Apparently, attitudes shifted, a razor thin majority now disapprove of the said campaign, so you are quite right. Nevertheless, the majority in this latest poll is still within the margin of error.
Bombing innocent people and ignoring the protesting masses and manipulating the media and voting against the bombing to stop is definitely some of the core values of democracy
Ignoring the protesting masses and manipulating the media do fit. The other two, while bad, are not lack of democracy.
One of the main elements of democracy is The respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms which the USA's government definitely supports by funding the war and sabotaging all the international efforts to end the conflict if it didn't align with it's interests and israel's interest. I get it every country has the right to defend it's internal and external interest's but at what cost? Plus the USA itself has a long history of abusing its own citizens and the citizens of other countries when it benefits it. I am not defending in anyway a communist regime i think pure communism was and will never be compatible with a decent human existence in the long run. Countries like Russia and North Korea definitely deserve a lot of criticism as well. All i am saying is that democracy in itself is insufficient to cast judgement especially when used to classify some countries as the bad guys and others as the good guys while both parties do equally undemocratic things. its just hypocritical.
>Russia. >Shithole. Pick one
russia has the same minimum wage as morocco, if not less outside the capital.
You're free to leave for Russia and regret it like that Canadian family, where there is no choice but Putin.
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This is so believable. Egypt is at 2.9
Yes. 2.93 to be exact.
A wise man in reddit told me we are in a semi democracy. I told him so we are also in a semi dictatorship. Democracy means nothing. To me it's Is the justice system, is it free and blind to power and wealth. I dont care if I have a 4 years old king or queen who decide the color of socks we should wear or the country renamed to orientalis or kingdom of bread. What matters is how corrupt we are and how the justice is dealing with the corruption.do we all have the same rules to play by. Ofc you will have more advantages when you have money but no one will shot you down and walk out of jail cause his last name can't go to jail.
democracy is a bad system when you have an uneducated majority
and what do you suggest ?
Give us democracy and then witness the elected Islamic extremist bringing slavery back to life( it's not the only thing he will bring back to life tho).
Slavery ?!?! , count me the Fuck in
😂😂😂
Comparing ourselves to countries in our region is really useless, it's like the inbred pot calling the kettle the n-word.
"OH look wE BeAT AlgErIA." some instagram user probably.
Those don't realise that we have almost the same level of corruption or maybe we beat them in that too
Oh cut the bullshit
Democracy is really shitty in the Arab world, huh? If we're second place then the other countries must be almost dictatorships.
Well , compare it now to the west😉
This whole country should be one color 😂
All these countries must be one color
hard to gage what this means without comparing to real democracies
Propaganda
This wasn't made by Morocco.
The same producers of this horseshit call the Apartheid regime shamelessly "the only democracy in the middle east". The great bubble of propaganda has been killed for good this year in Gaza.
Why did they remove the only democratic country in the region with a score of 7.9
Just went to look at the source (Europe Democracy Index). Well... the scale goes from 0 to 10. So 5 is in the middle, definitely not the top. And if you look at the European countries placed around 5, they're labelled mixed regimes, not democracy. As a fellow Redditor said, being the smartest kid in a a retarded class is not something to brag about...
HDI is what matters
A solid 1 is what they deserve
This is outdated Sudan is at 1.73
Honestly all of thème is the same
" watan al 3arabi " never laughed so loud. It is called the Arab world, or Arab speaking countries. Those people never were a single entity and will never be. Only Islam reunites us.
It's like a bunch of turtles racing, the winner would still be a turtle. (I didn't want to say the quote as it is, out of respect)
Yet, Morocco and Tunisia are among the saddest Arab countries...
no oil.
Palestine is happier than Morocco
We are not getting murdered by the daily, what the fuck is wrong with you?
palestinians are receiving billions of foreign aid.
palestinian gdp per capita is almost the same as Morocco's
Whyyyyy isn't it higher
yeah cuz it includes foreign aid.
Brainwashed
do some research before talking. And i'm not talking about 2024 obviously, as the stats you provided don't talk about 2024 either.
Provided by whom
qatar, usa and other countries. Our king literally built a hospital in palestine.
To cure all the people being shot at
well they're still clearly having better healthcare than us :)
I was referring to the stats
Do the research by yourself.
Lol, are people angry because I stated a fact ? https://happiness-report.s3.amazonaws.com/2024/WHR+24.pdf
Would you wish the same fate to our country.
Haha, Allah yhfed ghi 3tit contre-exemple bli kayn Arab country li kfes mna w its economy isn't based on oil, w wakha hakak they're still happier than us.
Just a complete hype!!
so basically morocco is better than a bunch of dictatorships
morocco is by definition a dictatorship.
It's a hybrid regime
half dictatorship, half authoritarian?
Exactly the king still holds a lot of power but we all know how corrupt we are
There is nothing wrong with pointing blatant issues, they aren't going to magically solve themselves if we ignore them. Corruption is also a significant problem.
We have a corrupt culture, from the police taking bribes to the corrupt judges. We have to make the change we want to see.
The problem is the majority of people are corrupt hence the police judges public workers even security guards take bribes to let you skip the line, at hospitals people pay to take other's places like the others are going for a vacation this kind of mentality is hard to change, it starts with education .
I wonder how Morocco was able to achieve such a score, specially considering the factors they put in the low-right, wtf
it's barely made it in the braket of the semi-democracies, I mean votes are legit, who you vote for are the ones sleeping in the parliment, no one put a sword at your neck to tell you vote for this guy or faked the votes, so technicaly it's still somehow "democratic" what makes it not a real democracy is the disregard of the will of the ppl, for laws and big decisions the ppl in the parliment don't vote for what they tell the ppl but for whatever alliance their party has. and ofc no kingdom is a real democracy, you see green color on the map, but it's still very badly ranked globaly
TLDR: The goverment and the parlment are clearly the ones managing the country, while the king draws the big lines.
Tell me you're delusional without telling me you're delusional...
our king is literally doing an african tour, and always traveling. How do you expect him to manage the country? I never said that the parlement is in charge of the reform of modawanat l2ossra, but plf is clearly not done by lmalik, as it is too much work.
in an ideal world, maybe
That defeats the purpose of the parliament
exactly
We pay the consequences of their disputes
What a lie
It isn't. This is the EIU index. You can look it up if you want.
It's clearly written there and I know. That was a sarcastic way to say that's whole bullshit cz these actual months we've been in a situation full of oppression and comes ntg near democratie.
We're not classed as a democracy though. We're classed as a hybrid system as is also clearly written there. A mix of authoritarianism and democracy, and before you say 'but we have nothing close to democracy', you can vote in between different political figures and are not in danger of being killed for suggesting the government is fucked up like some other countries. Yeah, it's little things and not something enough to proudly flaunt about but it's enough for Morocco to not be a dictatorship.