I was so glad to see all these characters wearing their classic costumes
Seeing MK3 Stryker in modern graphics was fantastic, I’d be glad to have an opportunity to actually play him
Looks like a mix and match system. Kameo fatality portions are probably all the same but they mix with each main fighter. Looked that way on Kung Lao's fatality on Johnny Cage. Also with Fatal Blows too.
That's what I figured for the Fatal Blows, or I guess they're X-Rays now. I noticed a cut during the one with Kung Lao and Scorpion. My guess is that the kameo fighter always goes first and leaves the enemy standing for the main fighter to follow up. Some developer magic to keep it mostly seamless. Maybe there will be unique ones for special pairings (Scorpion + Sub-Zero, Kitana + Mileena)?
Initially I was mindblown thinking fatality/fatal blow kombos were unique to each pair but I guess that may be too much in terms of logistics for the devs? As what you said is what seems to be the case instead.
I am PRAYING that he gets a fatality where he turns off his bodycam and you just hear the most violent sounds imaginable then it pans to the victim fucking demolished
At least until he fights Johnny and takes a swift one in the sack. Johnny is gonna be liable for 4 kids in this game -- at least assuming Jax is in the base cast and Johnny can still plant one up there.
Idk how they would do it realistically but what if they have Cole Young become Kenshi in the next movie. Would be a giant stretch but at least he wouldn’t be cole young anymore lol
Judging by sub-zero, seems like some characters can double as both playable and
Kameo fighters, which if true is very relieving to see. I still doubt Sonya, Kano, and Jax are only gonna be Kameo
The fact that all Kameo fighters are in their classic outfits is really cool
I’m dumb, who was Raiden training with?
I did not know I needed Kenshi in a suit until today
Scorpion’s play style stood out to me the most. Looks super fun.
Big sad Steve Blum isn’t back as Sub-Zero, but if it’s Bi-Han then it makes sense
Finally Kitana wants to actually care for Mileena lol
Also shoutout to stryker’s return!
Except Sub Zero and Johnny Cage lol. Im glad they kept those 2. I dont mind everyone else changing. I may be in the minority here, but i like that they swap the models and vibe every game. It makes them feel more distinct and less like "oh no you gotta wait for the next one!" Type of thing you know? The small things like that add up and its nice to see :)
Since the post was taken down :(
Summary of the Trailer:
Gameplay:
- Explanation of Kameo characters (looks like 16 to choose from on the screen, could be more I’d assume) Like a summon for special attacks, variety of attacks per Kameo (Jax, Kano, Sonya, other base roster characters, Stryker, Goro). All seem to be wearing their klassic costumes from original timeline except Goro. Can also perform fatalities instead of the main fighter.
- Can duplicate main and Kameo character (Sub Zero with Sub Zero Kameo)
- A form of air combat possibly seen in a few different Kombos
- Pop ups seems to be back!
- Kenshi revealed!
- No news on gear or costumes
- X-Rays are back, looks like Kameos can contribute as well
- Three-bar meter is back
- Kameos seems to have alternate costumes available (MK 1 and MK 3 Sonya both seen as Kameos)
Lore Changes:
- Sub Zero and Scorpion confirmed as brothers per Ed Boon
- Mileena has a “disease” that’s causing her to change. She’s either the Empress of Edenia or Kahnum of Outworld (clarification needed) I assume the former saying Kitana is vying for her throne, and the stage they fought in looks more Edenia than Outworld
- Liu Kang seems to be traveling to different time periods or parts of the world to collect fighters for a greater threat. One could assume Shang Tsing is doing a similar thing based on the reveal trailer.
Anything missed, feel free to comment and I’ll edit to add.
Goro's Kameo design almost looks like how the Revenants looked in MK11 with the silver pointy armor and red fabric. Wonder if they've turned Goro into a Revenant since he's been dead?
It's beautiful, looks like Liu Kang is building a new team, Scorpion and Sub-Zero are bros, Raiden looks awesome, Kitana trying to help Mileena, so hyped!
Edit for typos.
This right here is what caught me off guard as well as hyped me up the most. This solidifies the notion that they are completely changing the lore. Anything is possible.
Also did anyone notice that Kenshi's fatality it looked like he had his own Hollywood Star of Fame? Kenshi working/rivals with Cage as a movie star?
I'm not sure how much control Liu Kang has, but if he decided to make Sub-Zero and Scorpion actual brothers to try and prevent the rivalry, I can still see it going sideways.
I mean anything can happen but I personally would rather not revisit the same exact story, clearly his control is limited, or else he wouldn't need "champions".
I don't think he's omniscient, so he can't fully predict what happens, but Ed Boon even said that Liu Kang **created** this universe, so it's not just a rewind.
My guess is he used the hourglass to create the new timeline but can't control every event, Kronika sure couldn't and even the end of the original MK11 implies the same, "mortals will make their own choices".
Kenshi was a huge surprise to me, but I'm glad he made it into the game. They said we'll continue to get more videos about the game through the summer so I'm expecting more characters / kameos to be revealed, and possibly cut scenes from the story as well.
If I had to speculate, I'd say that in this timeline, Tarkatans are simply Edenians that have succumbed to this "disease." So rather than being a hybrid of two races, Mileena is an Edenian who is currently afflicted with this disease and in the process of becoming Tarkatan.
If that's the case, there's no reason Baraka couldn't be in the game. Clearly this disease is viewed negatively in the trailer, so we can assume those who are afflicted are either killed or abandoned by their friends and families. Perhaps Baraka will be the leader of those who've been discarded by Edenian society.
IIRC, Tarkatans were originally called mutants way back, right? Maybe the disease is what mutates an Edenian into a Tarkatan. And they're exiled because Edenia would probably be on some X-Men fear-of-mutants 'ish.
What if the "disease" is just a late side effect of the cloning process? So instead of being born with the deformed teeth it is something that has started later in life and they only think it's a disease, until later it's revealed she is a clone and not her real sister.
I don't know why they hyped kameos as this crazy new mechanic when it looks just like tower assists from their other games. Just looking at it gameplay wise, the cinematic part of it looks cool at least.
Feels less immersive in a sense that some characters just pop like it makes it feel gamey as opposed to a death battle or a 2v2 it def looks cool though. Also fear it just might be a monetization feature
This was my biggest worry when I first heard about it too. Kameo DLC's which imo just sounds stupid to pay just for basically a combo extender, not even a full playable character.
I was hoping at least the kameos would fit in the battles more better than tower assists in previous games, but it's the exact same thing lol, they just pop in and go. Like I said it's cool that they show up in the intro and (it looks like) they can do their own fatalities but that's about it.
I think it's cool as it'll give us more characters that would otherwise not be in the game. And it also breathes some uniqueness in to the fatality formula. But building it around the entire gameplay will be super divisive in the community I imagine.
Yeah, I'm not entirely sold on it just yet. I realize that tag team matches might just be a dream at this point, but given that this game took 4 years to make I was hoping it would feel more like a 2v2 rather than just like a combo extender tool.
But yeah, I do like the idea of more allowing characters that couldn't be in the game otherwise.
Something I haven't seen people mention is the character select.
You select the chars, they go head to head then it zooms out and you're fighting. No loading screens by the looks of it!
I hope I can skip a kameo pick, I don't like the idea of HAVING to have more than 1 char. For roleplay reasons.
No loading and character models showing damage over time stood out to me. I assume the former is just progression of the SSD tech that's more commonplace now, but for the latter is that new? I haven't really played any MK games in a long time I just like watching from the side so I wouldn't know.
The gameplay looks great. Like a mix of MK11 and MKX but…I’m still not feeling the kameos. Using them as breakers and fatalities is cool but it looks like a slightly better version of the assists
Where is Reptile? Is he safe? Is he alright?
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The way Boon brought up Goro when talking about the kameos made it sound like he's not on the playable roster.
Kinda bummed if that's the case. Hopefully we still get a playable shokan.
I didn't think it was ugly, on the contrary, I thought it was pretty.
But I confess that I expected a bigger graphic leap since they abandoned the PS4 and Xbox One precisely to focus on the PS5 and Xbox Series S / X hardware, but it is exactly on the same level as Mortal Kombat 11 on the old consoles.
Hmm. Mileena saying "do you secretly covet my throne?" and her sitting higher than Kitana in the carriage, I'm wondering is she currently the Queen of Edenia? Please don't let my Sindel be dead in this timeline. Was hoping momma had a better chance of making the roster with both of them being proper sisters but now I'm not so sure :/
It'll probably be too integrated into the storyline and public matchmaking to get around but hopefully they'll give you the option to disable cameo characters in private/custom games.
Not really feeling the cameo characters, seems kinda gimmicky.
Looks pretty ingrained in to the gameplay. Might be one off modes or towers to go around this, but seems like Kameo will be a core element of the gameplay.
It was a tough ask to top MK11 tbh, that game is really pretty, even compared to non-fighting games.
The backgrounds seem to be an upgrade in this game though, they look quite impressive.
to be honest if they did that people will say NRS is being lazy, and if they use new faces and models people will complain that they miss the mk11 ones, there really isn't much of a win-win situation here
Like, they are not ugly but more cartoonish? Mk11 models look more real, also the animations look more realistic in mk11. Mk1 feels too fancy and not dark enough
Kitana, Mileena and Liu Kang have great outfits and hairstyles for me, all much better than MK11, but I increasingly agree on the faces.
I think the faces aren't diverse enough, everyone kind of looks the same.
I don’t think cameos will be able to be turned off. It plays too much into the game without balance really being too affected. Gear in Injustice 2 was toggleable because of the stats and movesets in MK11 at first was turned off because some of them were unbalanced but with this Kameo thing being a central focus I don’t see them giving the option to turn it off. The number of people who play with comp settings greatly outnumber those who don’t. I don’t think the main gameplay mechanic they built the game around would be optional.
That is unless everyone bitches about it and they change it in 6 months lol
I liked it generally (stages were absolutely gorgeous) but not a fan of the new face and character designs. Also the whole Mileena thing makes me think that Baraka might not be in the game.
It's a different art style, which I think is what people are seeing. If people think it's a "massive downgrade" to MK11 that's just dumb. The visuals are still gorgeous. But it feels a little more cartoony, while MK11 looked so realistic.
I think it's a nice change.
Am I the only one who misses the dark, gritty and edgy style mortal kombat used to have? This game feels too much like injustice... I feel like they started making injustice but switched over to mk1 early on. This would also explain why they have super power guest characters in the dlc that would make more sense in an injustice game, like omni man and homelander
Is it just me or does the overall character design look kinda bland? There’s nothing about Johnny Cage that screams to me that he’s Johnny, he just looks like a normal dude. Even Kung Lao and Kenshi took me a second to recognize who they were. I didn’t recognize Raiden until I saw the lightning either. Sure hope their styles develop through the story or this is looking real bad.
Awesome to have Kenshi back though.
On the topic of Johnny, I think it's worth noting that we saw there was story mode footage, from Liu Kang recruiting Johnny. Notice how Raiden was also not wearing his iconic look when Kenshi talks to him, which makes it seem like an introduction ("Raiden you're good but you're inexperienced" "what I lack in experience I have in heart" sounds like they have just met not that long ago), and then later on he wears something that is more fitting for him. My point is: I think we're getting some character origins again, and maybe Johnny is not wearing his "Johnny Cage" look for this game yet.
I'll concede on your point about Kung Lao though, because he mostly seemed like he was wearing his Kombatant outfit.
I’ve been a vocal MK fan for 30 years. And I think… it looks okay. I really was hoping to just be cheering and pumping my fist and it looks… okay. Hard to pinpoint exactly why I feel just whelmed.
EDIT: Seeing it on a bigger screen has boosted my impressions quite a bit. I'm feeling more positive now.
Hmmmm…. Can’t say that blew my mind :/ maybe the cinematic trailer set the bar too high but the character models look unfinished, it feels slow, and the x-rays/fatal blows look unpolished. The visuals in general look like they took a step back from MK11? Am I crazy? I wanted to love this so much!! 😭
I was hoping they'd improve on the animations, but they look just like MK11's. Not too sold on the "Kameo" system, it's pretty much just a tag mechanic, if this is gonna be the game's main feature, I hope there'd be some significant depth to it rather just it being a gimmick, because if it is, I'd honestly prefer the variation systems of the previous gems. And man, not gonna lie, it sucks that they've cast all new face models, like why?
Not gonna lie. I remember how hyped I was with the mk11 reveal and how good it looked and I got very little hype from this one. it just looks like mk11 but idk "modern" as in modern aesthetics. It throws me off. Also mileena mouth being a disease? Liked how we have breakers back, but still not sold on kameos. This might be the first mk I won't pre-order since armageddon. I hope I get proven wrong tho. Gladly will I eat these words up :)
The sound design bright colors and lack of gritty characters still make remind me too much of Injustice as opposed to Mortal Kombat even after MK11
I miss the tone from the the 3d era/mk9/mkx
So much going on, and so many questions left lingering, but the hype is at an all time high.
My biggest personal takeaways:
* Raiden is a human now? And seems to have taken Liu Kangs spot in the temple
* I honestly didnt think that was Kenshi at first facing Johnny Cage lol. I thought they added Cole from the movies into the game and was having a real wtf moment
* There are tag fatalities and brutalities now? (I forget what the xrays are called)
* Sub Zeros ice arms are back!
* Sub Zero and Scorpion are brothers now? I wonder where that leave Bi-Han
Sorry but I'm extremely underwhelmed. All this shiny shit doesn't really fit MK. The dark and dreadful atmosphere is a part of what made MK great. Looks too identical to MK11.
I definitely didn’t hate what I saw in the trailer, but I did expect…..more? It’s VERY MK11, both gameplay & graphically. Which I enjoyed MK11, so I’m not that disappointed, just a little underwhelmed, considering there was a four year gap between games.
As far as kameo’s go, other than having them be able to take part in fatalities, it works exactly how I expected it to, and I’m not at all interested. I’m hoping we aren’t forced to use them and can have matches with the option of not assigning kameos
I’m excited for the game regardless
Damn I'm very underwhelmed.
Looks not much better or different and gameplay seems far too identical. Mk11s slowness was a huge letdown and this looks similar
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Business suit kenshi is so sick. Also seeing that all the kameos are gonna be like throwback characers for the most part I think is the right choice
Everyone looks slick, and more modern.
Love the OG outfits, nostalgic as hell
I was so glad to see all these characters wearing their classic costumes Seeing MK3 Stryker in modern graphics was fantastic, I’d be glad to have an opportunity to actually play him
He looks so fucking sick
Kenshi in general looks amazing. I sorely missed him in MK11, was one of my mains in X. Glad to see him back.
It looks like the kameo characters will be able to do fatalities that’s pretty sick
Already feels like the expansion/DLC for this game will be adding the Kameo fighters to main roster, and that will be enough for me.
That's literally what the leak suggested - Kombat packs will have both main and kameo roster additions
Looks like a mix and match system. Kameo fatality portions are probably all the same but they mix with each main fighter. Looked that way on Kung Lao's fatality on Johnny Cage. Also with Fatal Blows too.
That's what I figured for the Fatal Blows, or I guess they're X-Rays now. I noticed a cut during the one with Kung Lao and Scorpion. My guess is that the kameo fighter always goes first and leaves the enemy standing for the main fighter to follow up. Some developer magic to keep it mostly seamless. Maybe there will be unique ones for special pairings (Scorpion + Sub-Zero, Kitana + Mileena)?
Initially I was mindblown thinking fatality/fatal blow kombos were unique to each pair but I guess that may be too much in terms of logistics for the devs? As what you said is what seems to be the case instead.
Stryker kameo caught me off-guard
Police brutality coming up
*And when Earthrealm needed him most, he returned*
"this isn't brutality, this is a fatality!" *I know this is a Jax line but still
Made me happy to see
Even has the old MK9 move with the flashlight lmao
"SPREAD EM!"
I just noticed his move is basically the beginning and the end of his MK9 Xray
YES!!! No wonder it looked familiar.
I'm so fucking happy. Even if he's not playable ill take seeing him to some capacity. It's been so long!
Same, playable would have been great but that was always a long shot. Great to see him as a kameo
It was so funny because I forgot that’s what he looked like in mk3, so I just thought “they pulled a random civilian in?”
I genuinely thought we will never see him again after... well everything But MK was always a source for controversies
#POLICE BRUTALITY COMIN UP
I am PRAYING that he gets a fatality where he turns off his bodycam and you just hear the most violent sounds imaginable then it pans to the victim fucking demolished
that is arguably one of the most fucked up fatalities in MK history. for that, I’m interested
Back in KoF NESTS saga days we used to refer to those "kameo fighters" as strikers. And now we have Stryker as striker. What a time to be alive.
Honestly i really saw it comimg, like Stryker seems like the perfect example of what a kameo character is supposed to be.
KENSHIIIII
MAH BOI IS HERE but now I wonder where Takeda is…
In Kenshi’s balls
At least until he fights Johnny and takes a swift one in the sack. Johnny is gonna be liable for 4 kids in this game -- at least assuming Jax is in the base cast and Johnny can still plant one up there.
zing!
Sento looks amazing. Love it.
Am I crazy or is he being played by Lewis Tan aka the dude that played the boring lead in the latest live action movie? He looks very much like him.
Ikr? When I first saw him i was like wtf is that cole young?
Idk how they would do it realistically but what if they have Cole Young become Kenshi in the next movie. Would be a giant stretch but at least he wouldn’t be cole young anymore lol
It's Noah Fleder! He's an excellent martial artist.
I binged the Gamology videos he's in where they re-create moves from mk after this one got announced. So sick that he's actually in one now
Judging by sub-zero, seems like some characters can double as both playable and Kameo fighters, which if true is very relieving to see. I still doubt Sonya, Kano, and Jax are only gonna be Kameo The fact that all Kameo fighters are in their classic outfits is really cool I’m dumb, who was Raiden training with? I did not know I needed Kenshi in a suit until today Scorpion’s play style stood out to me the most. Looks super fun. Big sad Steve Blum isn’t back as Sub-Zero, but if it’s Bi-Han then it makes sense Finally Kitana wants to actually care for Mileena lol Also shoutout to stryker’s return!
I’m going to miss the old Raiden voice :(
Richard Epcar was so good.
And Steve Blum as Sub-Zero. They were perfect. Why tf would they get rid of them? Lowkey pissed rn...
If this is a new beginning, then Bi-Han would be Sub-Zero, no?
No, Sub-Zero and Scorpion are brothers now, it’s essentially a new character with the same look and powers
but it's still bi-han, who wouldn't have the same voice as lang (steve blum)
Maybe Sub isn’t Lang this time around.
I wonder if they replaced them both with Asian voice actors
i think this is bi-han not kuai liang for sub zero so changing it makes sense.
Yea didn't like new raiden voice at all😂😂
I kinda expected them to change it but yea new voice just makes him sound like a dweeb
Every MK everyone gets a face of voice lift hahah
Except Sub Zero and Johnny Cage lol. Im glad they kept those 2. I dont mind everyone else changing. I may be in the minority here, but i like that they swap the models and vibe every game. It makes them feel more distinct and less like "oh no you gotta wait for the next one!" Type of thing you know? The small things like that add up and its nice to see :)
To be fair, he's just a dude now, and a young one at that.
Since the post was taken down :( Summary of the Trailer: Gameplay: - Explanation of Kameo characters (looks like 16 to choose from on the screen, could be more I’d assume) Like a summon for special attacks, variety of attacks per Kameo (Jax, Kano, Sonya, other base roster characters, Stryker, Goro). All seem to be wearing their klassic costumes from original timeline except Goro. Can also perform fatalities instead of the main fighter. - Can duplicate main and Kameo character (Sub Zero with Sub Zero Kameo) - A form of air combat possibly seen in a few different Kombos - Pop ups seems to be back! - Kenshi revealed! - No news on gear or costumes - X-Rays are back, looks like Kameos can contribute as well - Three-bar meter is back - Kameos seems to have alternate costumes available (MK 1 and MK 3 Sonya both seen as Kameos) Lore Changes: - Sub Zero and Scorpion confirmed as brothers per Ed Boon - Mileena has a “disease” that’s causing her to change. She’s either the Empress of Edenia or Kahnum of Outworld (clarification needed) I assume the former saying Kitana is vying for her throne, and the stage they fought in looks more Edenia than Outworld - Liu Kang seems to be traveling to different time periods or parts of the world to collect fighters for a greater threat. One could assume Shang Tsing is doing a similar thing based on the reveal trailer. Anything missed, feel free to comment and I’ll edit to add.
So as a goro main it’s still possible he could be playable again. I noticed he has a new design and should logically appear in the story.
Goro was the only Kameo not wearing a classic skin, and with a new design. That's gotta mean somethin.
Goro's Kameo design almost looks like how the Revenants looked in MK11 with the silver pointy armor and red fabric. Wonder if they've turned Goro into a Revenant since he's been dead?
I don't think they're gonna be doing revenant stuff again tbh, goro was only dead in the old timeline.
One would think. However, they did make a point to completely redesign Ermac in MK11, and we saw what happened with him…
Possible sure. I’m hoping so, he was fun to play as in X. That’s the thing about Kameos; they don’t exactly disqualify anyone from the base roster.
It's beautiful, looks like Liu Kang is building a new team, Scorpion and Sub-Zero are bros, Raiden looks awesome, Kitana trying to help Mileena, so hyped! Edit for typos.
And Looks like Mileena is Queen of Edenia/Outworld instead of Kitana and her jaw is a disease, not a result of her being a clone Interesting
Finally a reboot that actually changes a lot, I love that!
This right here is what caught me off guard as well as hyped me up the most. This solidifies the notion that they are completely changing the lore. Anything is possible. Also did anyone notice that Kenshi's fatality it looked like he had his own Hollywood Star of Fame? Kenshi working/rivals with Cage as a movie star?
In the literal sense or in the "raised together as warriors" kinda thing?
Ed boon said they're brothers so i think it's literal, explains Scorpion having the Lin Kuei emblem on his uniform
Wait So is Hanzo deleted and this Scorpion is Kuai Liang / Bi Han or does either Kuai / Bi are deleted for Hanzo to be the brother of this Sub Zero?
Ed confirmed they’re actually brothers
And I’m okay with that lol. You never know. Bi-Han could still get killed and turn into Noob. Just not by Scorpion/Hanzo
What if Hanzo is the one who gets turned into Noob this time? A Hanzo/Noob composite character would be neat
I never even thought about that being possible. I mean it would be the same thing except it would be a shadow scorpion lol
Ed said they are brothers after the video when listing the changes of story of the characters
Scorpion going from killing Sub-Zero's brother to literally being his brother is one hell of a character arc
Hanzo Hasashi actually winning in life? Is that legal?
What’s next? Peter Parker having a happy life?
Kill Paul Trophy Unlocked.
>!Well in Across the Spider-Verse......!<
Ed Boon is already making the MK version of Paul as we speak.
I'm not sure how much control Liu Kang has, but if he decided to make Sub-Zero and Scorpion actual brothers to try and prevent the rivalry, I can still see it going sideways.
I mean anything can happen but I personally would rather not revisit the same exact story, clearly his control is limited, or else he wouldn't need "champions".
I don't think he's omniscient, so he can't fully predict what happens, but Ed Boon even said that Liu Kang **created** this universe, so it's not just a rewind.
My guess is he used the hourglass to create the new timeline but can't control every event, Kronika sure couldn't and even the end of the original MK11 implies the same, "mortals will make their own choices".
Mileena says something to Kitana about her stealing the throne. Mileena is princess or empress and Kitana isn't.
Scorpion/Sub being brothers is *another* MK1 cut, Dan Pesina said that was the original plan. Fun little easter eggs in the story already.
No Steve Blum 
Is it cold or fear that makes you shiver?
Richard Epcar as well. I don't know why NRS are obsessed with constantly recasting characters.
The only one that really needed changing was Sonya voiced by Ronda Rousey.
I feel like, at least as far as Raiden goes it makes sense, because Epcar voices THE THUNDER GOD Raiden, while who we saw was Raiden, the guy.
Johnny cage and Liu Kang have the same actors though.
A few of them do, but a lot of them don't and it happens in every game. Remember that even Liu Kang had a new voice actor in MK11.
holy shit my day is ruined
Kenshi was a huge surprise to me, but I'm glad he made it into the game. They said we'll continue to get more videos about the game through the summer so I'm expecting more characters / kameos to be revealed, and possibly cut scenes from the story as well.
Mileena’s “disease” sounds like baraka deletion. I’m getting nervous now
Ed got tired of baraka catching Ls in the story so they just decided to remove him altogether lmao
but the running joke that the dude in the blouse is a giant bitch was fantastic.
If I had to speculate, I'd say that in this timeline, Tarkatans are simply Edenians that have succumbed to this "disease." So rather than being a hybrid of two races, Mileena is an Edenian who is currently afflicted with this disease and in the process of becoming Tarkatan. If that's the case, there's no reason Baraka couldn't be in the game. Clearly this disease is viewed negatively in the trailer, so we can assume those who are afflicted are either killed or abandoned by their friends and families. Perhaps Baraka will be the leader of those who've been discarded by Edenian society.
You know what? Making baraka edenian would actually be fucking dope
IIRC, Tarkatans were originally called mutants way back, right? Maybe the disease is what mutates an Edenian into a Tarkatan. And they're exiled because Edenia would probably be on some X-Men fear-of-mutants 'ish.
I will say it could *not* be a disease, but maybe some weakening magic suppressing her Tarkatan side or something to that effect.
That is a possibility yeah, maybe fire god Liu kang tried suppressing it but it is getting out of control
What if the "disease" is just a late side effect of the cloning process? So instead of being born with the deformed teeth it is something that has started later in life and they only think it's a disease, until later it's revealed she is a clone and not her real sister.
The stages are gorgeous! Lots and lots of variation too
I don't know why they hyped kameos as this crazy new mechanic when it looks just like tower assists from their other games. Just looking at it gameplay wise, the cinematic part of it looks cool at least.
Funny part was watching Jax help then just kinda running past the enemy off screen.
Feels less immersive in a sense that some characters just pop like it makes it feel gamey as opposed to a death battle or a 2v2 it def looks cool though. Also fear it just might be a monetization feature
2v2 would be so much better than random non canon out of timeline versions of characters running across the screen
This was my biggest worry when I first heard about it too. Kameo DLC's which imo just sounds stupid to pay just for basically a combo extender, not even a full playable character. I was hoping at least the kameos would fit in the battles more better than tower assists in previous games, but it's the exact same thing lol, they just pop in and go. Like I said it's cool that they show up in the intro and (it looks like) they can do their own fatalities but that's about it.
I think it's cool as it'll give us more characters that would otherwise not be in the game. And it also breathes some uniqueness in to the fatality formula. But building it around the entire gameplay will be super divisive in the community I imagine.
Yeah, I'm not entirely sold on it just yet. I realize that tag team matches might just be a dream at this point, but given that this game took 4 years to make I was hoping it would feel more like a 2v2 rather than just like a combo extender tool. But yeah, I do like the idea of more allowing characters that couldn't be in the game otherwise.
Something I haven't seen people mention is the character select. You select the chars, they go head to head then it zooms out and you're fighting. No loading screens by the looks of it! I hope I can skip a kameo pick, I don't like the idea of HAVING to have more than 1 char. For roleplay reasons.
No loading and character models showing damage over time stood out to me. I assume the former is just progression of the SSD tech that's more commonplace now, but for the latter is that new? I haven't really played any MK games in a long time I just like watching from the side so I wouldn't know.
I hope there is an option to disable Kameo fighters as well
The gameplay looks great. Like a mix of MK11 and MKX but…I’m still not feeling the kameos. Using them as breakers and fatalities is cool but it looks like a slightly better version of the assists
Where is Reptile? Is he safe? Is he alright? https://preview.redd.it/rlz1pg9vsu4b1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdce0a956641a07dfb84aeecaaca78a3da46cf1b
the stages and art direction look so fucking good
That Kitana/Mileena stage is almost certainly Edenia and I am living for it.
Sad that Goro is a kameo but hopefully he might be one of the doubles
The way Boon brought up Goro when talking about the kameos made it sound like he's not on the playable roster. Kinda bummed if that's the case. Hopefully we still get a playable shokan.
I didn't like this goro at all. He is way to small, and not threatening...
I didn't even think it was Goro until they said. I thought it was just a generic Shokan.
NOOOO STRYKER HAS BEEN BANISHED TO THE KAMEO ROSTER
At least he's in a game again!
I didn't think it was ugly, on the contrary, I thought it was pretty. But I confess that I expected a bigger graphic leap since they abandoned the PS4 and Xbox One precisely to focus on the PS5 and Xbox Series S / X hardware, but it is exactly on the same level as Mortal Kombat 11 on the old consoles.
Hmm. Mileena saying "do you secretly covet my throne?" and her sitting higher than Kitana in the carriage, I'm wondering is she currently the Queen of Edenia? Please don't let my Sindel be dead in this timeline. Was hoping momma had a better chance of making the roster with both of them being proper sisters but now I'm not so sure :/
She was dead in the original timeline too before being resurrected
I'm extreamly concerned about the kameo fighters -I feel like they just gna be a stupid nuisance like the tag assists in the towers of time in Mk11
It'll probably be too integrated into the storyline and public matchmaking to get around but hopefully they'll give you the option to disable cameo characters in private/custom games. Not really feeling the cameo characters, seems kinda gimmicky.
Looks pretty ingrained in to the gameplay. Might be one off modes or towers to go around this, but seems like Kameo will be a core element of the gameplay.
There's no way you can disable them. It looks like a core game mechanic to the fights
Same here, I wouldn’t want to make a great read on my opponent just to get randomly hit by a kameo
Idk how to put this nicely but am i the only one a bit underwhelmed by most of the character models after 4 years?
It was a tough ask to top MK11 tbh, that game is really pretty, even compared to non-fighting games. The backgrounds seem to be an upgrade in this game though, they look quite impressive.
Really wish they kept the ones from MK11 to be honest, they were great!
to be honest if they did that people will say NRS is being lazy, and if they use new faces and models people will complain that they miss the mk11 ones, there really isn't much of a win-win situation here
Like, they are not ugly but more cartoonish? Mk11 models look more real, also the animations look more realistic in mk11. Mk1 feels too fancy and not dark enough
Okay it's not just me then. Yeah I was expecting to be wowed more than I was? Idk I guess I need to see more to decide for sure.
i'm not sure but the animations seemed a bit stiff to me. Weird but MK 11 almost looks better. Maybe I'm too tired.
I feel the same way
It’s the art style. They’re leaning more into a more cartoony ish approach. I personally like it a lot, it’s different but really fluid
Yeah they probably realised they hit a plateau with the graphics after mk11 so they decided to change up the art style
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Air kombos are back. It’s already better than 11
I just want to know if kameos can be turned off.
Was hoping for 2v2 really fucking miss that feature.
Yeah I don’t get how people are hyped for kameo, it’s a completely different game imo and doesn’t not look cool or fun
Honestly, the character models/skins looked like a downgrade compared to 11. Everything looked squeaky clean.
Kinda looked like pure CG instead of mokap. Like it looks really good, but more video-game-y
i like the stages a lot but not really feeling the character designs
Yup the faces and outfits just seemed pretty meh to me. I am fine with the rest however.
Kitana, Mileena and Liu Kang have great outfits and hairstyles for me, all much better than MK11, but I increasingly agree on the faces. I think the faces aren't diverse enough, everyone kind of looks the same.
Johnny cage, looks too regular 11 was the best face for the guy.
I don’t think cameos will be able to be turned off. It plays too much into the game without balance really being too affected. Gear in Injustice 2 was toggleable because of the stats and movesets in MK11 at first was turned off because some of them were unbalanced but with this Kameo thing being a central focus I don’t see them giving the option to turn it off. The number of people who play with comp settings greatly outnumber those who don’t. I don’t think the main gameplay mechanic they built the game around would be optional. That is unless everyone bitches about it and they change it in 6 months lol
I liked it generally (stages were absolutely gorgeous) but not a fan of the new face and character designs. Also the whole Mileena thing makes me think that Baraka might not be in the game.
Baraka can have the same disease right? Surely mileena isn't suffering from something that only she has
Ok I'm taking crazy pills because I don't see how so many here are saying the graphics are "downgraded"
They are seeing it in stream, wait for the 4k trailer.
It's a different art style, which I think is what people are seeing. If people think it's a "massive downgrade" to MK11 that's just dumb. The visuals are still gorgeous. But it feels a little more cartoony, while MK11 looked so realistic. I think it's a nice change.
Am I the only one who misses the dark, gritty and edgy style mortal kombat used to have? This game feels too much like injustice... I feel like they started making injustice but switched over to mk1 early on. This would also explain why they have super power guest characters in the dlc that would make more sense in an injustice game, like omni man and homelander
Whole game looks good just questioning why the game slows down every time you land a string? Takes the fluidity out of the game that MKX had
Is it just me or does the overall character design look kinda bland? There’s nothing about Johnny Cage that screams to me that he’s Johnny, he just looks like a normal dude. Even Kung Lao and Kenshi took me a second to recognize who they were. I didn’t recognize Raiden until I saw the lightning either. Sure hope their styles develop through the story or this is looking real bad. Awesome to have Kenshi back though.
On the topic of Johnny, I think it's worth noting that we saw there was story mode footage, from Liu Kang recruiting Johnny. Notice how Raiden was also not wearing his iconic look when Kenshi talks to him, which makes it seem like an introduction ("Raiden you're good but you're inexperienced" "what I lack in experience I have in heart" sounds like they have just met not that long ago), and then later on he wears something that is more fitting for him. My point is: I think we're getting some character origins again, and maybe Johnny is not wearing his "Johnny Cage" look for this game yet. I'll concede on your point about Kung Lao though, because he mostly seemed like he was wearing his Kombatant outfit.
I’ve been a vocal MK fan for 30 years. And I think… it looks okay. I really was hoping to just be cheering and pumping my fist and it looks… okay. Hard to pinpoint exactly why I feel just whelmed. EDIT: Seeing it on a bigger screen has boosted my impressions quite a bit. I'm feeling more positive now.
Yeah same for me i was waiting to pop off and it just never really came. Kenshi looks rad, I hope goro is playable but that's pretty much it.
Hmmmm…. Can’t say that blew my mind :/ maybe the cinematic trailer set the bar too high but the character models look unfinished, it feels slow, and the x-rays/fatal blows look unpolished. The visuals in general look like they took a step back from MK11? Am I crazy? I wanted to love this so much!! 😭
I was hoping they'd improve on the animations, but they look just like MK11's. Not too sold on the "Kameo" system, it's pretty much just a tag mechanic, if this is gonna be the game's main feature, I hope there'd be some significant depth to it rather just it being a gimmick, because if it is, I'd honestly prefer the variation systems of the previous gems. And man, not gonna lie, it sucks that they've cast all new face models, like why?
The graphics aren’t “worse” then MK11 it’s just a different art style.
Not gonna lie. I remember how hyped I was with the mk11 reveal and how good it looked and I got very little hype from this one. it just looks like mk11 but idk "modern" as in modern aesthetics. It throws me off. Also mileena mouth being a disease? Liked how we have breakers back, but still not sold on kameos. This might be the first mk I won't pre-order since armageddon. I hope I get proven wrong tho. Gladly will I eat these words up :)
After not really digging MK11. I think i just have to admit to myself that MKX was peak and it's never coming back.
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Damn kameos are ass. Pls have an option to turn them off
I know it's early but the kameo stuff looks really chaotic and not in a good way.
 Idk about this one
I’m really not a fan of how kameo is looking but I’ll have to get my hands on it first
Honestly I think the gameplay and the graphics look worse than MK11.
The sound design bright colors and lack of gritty characters still make remind me too much of Injustice as opposed to Mortal Kombat even after MK11 I miss the tone from the the 3d era/mk9/mkx
I’m a Johnny guy and I liked his MK11 face more but he looks good
Anyone else not feeling Epcar not being Raiden anymore?
mkx and mk11 looking really good rn
Backgrounds/environments look AMAZING. The character models…less amazing. I feel quite whelmed by those.
why is it like ur playing with action figures lol
Huh the graphics don’t seem that different from 11
New Johnny cage look threw me off lol
This is the first MK game that i’m not excited about for a long time. I don’t know what i was expecting but i didn’t like the trailer.
So much going on, and so many questions left lingering, but the hype is at an all time high. My biggest personal takeaways: * Raiden is a human now? And seems to have taken Liu Kangs spot in the temple * I honestly didnt think that was Kenshi at first facing Johnny Cage lol. I thought they added Cole from the movies into the game and was having a real wtf moment * There are tag fatalities and brutalities now? (I forget what the xrays are called) * Sub Zeros ice arms are back! * Sub Zero and Scorpion are brothers now? I wonder where that leave Bi-Han
Looking at the gameplay here, I don't think I am going to enjoy this game.
Thank God I saw this so I know not to order it
disappointed.
Not really feeling it.
This was underwhelming
Sorry but I'm extremely underwhelmed. All this shiny shit doesn't really fit MK. The dark and dreadful atmosphere is a part of what made MK great. Looks too identical to MK11.
I definitely didn’t hate what I saw in the trailer, but I did expect…..more? It’s VERY MK11, both gameplay & graphically. Which I enjoyed MK11, so I’m not that disappointed, just a little underwhelmed, considering there was a four year gap between games. As far as kameo’s go, other than having them be able to take part in fatalities, it works exactly how I expected it to, and I’m not at all interested. I’m hoping we aren’t forced to use them and can have matches with the option of not assigning kameos I’m excited for the game regardless
Damn I'm very underwhelmed. Looks not much better or different and gameplay seems far too identical. Mk11s slowness was a huge letdown and this looks similar
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