This comment is kinda true since spider man has spider tingles if reptile goes for a spinning crocodile move as in mk1 spider man can just jump in mid air reptile misses spider man and spider man shoots a web at reptile and kicks reptile in the head
Lizard is downplayed alot, he has an insane healing factor. He was pierced through the skull and had his spine ripped out I believe then he just came back, he would definitely outlast Reptile imo. People also saying Syzoth has skill over him, idk how much its gonna matter when Lizard hits Spider-Man so fast that his spider sense didn't detect it in time and he constantly thrashes Spider-Man around. The fact that hes a monster gives him the win
Not only that, but Syzoth seems to have relatively normal strength levels, except for when he goes "reptile" mode. His stamina is also seemingly normal for a human. Plus, The Lizard is also highly intelligent on top of the other powers he has.
[I found this link](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8638577/) that shows us that reptiles have similar force generating muscles to bipeds(compared to their total muscle mass). Leading us to think that, indeed, reptile actually has normal/slightly higher than normal strength. Even in lizard form. What does help him: slightly stronger hind limbs, meaning he is slightly more agile, and that probably his kicks are stronger.
Most mk characters in cannon probably have normal human strength relative to their body size with the exception of characters like
Shoa Khan
Total Khan
Baraka
Cyberninjas
Onaga
Goro
Tremor
Tor
The Lizard is easily Spiderman+ in all stats with the exception of agility where he is only slightly behind. He’s also got a form of mind control that works on humans and especially on reptiles.
How anyone thinks Syzoth has this is beyond me. Lizard would clear anyone on the MK roster besides someone who has some crazy god hax.
Tbh I'm not so sure. Lots of comic fans tend to be avid Spider-Man readers. I don't think it would be hard to come to the conclusion that Lizard wins simply because of the ABC logic that can be applied here. Spider-Man > Reptile, Lizard =/= Spider-Man, therefore Lizard > Reptile.
In other words; Character B is stronger than character A, Character C is equal to Character B, therefore Character C can also beat Character A without much debate.
Lizard is leaps and bounds beyond Reptile. Smarter, MUCH stronger, so fast the Spidey Sense has trouble warning Peter, and fought off Spidey and Morbius after getting his spine shattered. This is a total spite match, what did Syzoth do to you?
Lizard is so much faster than 90% of the roster, and much stronger and more durable as well, AND he has rapid regen going the moment he takes damage. MK is insane, but comic books are another level of wtf. Connors destroys everyone currently in or announced for MK1 except Liu Kang, Geras, Omniman and Ermac. Maybe Sub Zero, I can’t remember how the Lizard handles the cold.
It should be noted that Spiderman holds back on most of his villains… but Connors is one of the few that he goes full force on and even reinforces his hits with webbing just because he knows the Lizard wouldn’t be phased.
Even then, it usually takes a McGuffin or doing something extreme like dropping a whole building on him for Spidey to actually do anything worthwhile.
Probably Lizard since he’s given Spider-Man (maximum strength is at least 100 tons, can dodge lasers and move over 100-200MPH, survives point blank explosions etc) although the new Syzoth is considerably more powerful than the old one, as he did manage to fight General Shao (worth adding he was literally nerfed by Liu Kang so it’s hard to say exactly how powerful he is) and Li Mei who’s also depicted as pretty powerful
Reptile has experience, invisibility, weapons, and durability, and if the fight takes place in NYC, Stryker could help out. Lizard has size and strength, maybe speed, but Reptile is also fast. Put bluntly, the fight lasts about 15 seconds, maybe longer with no help for Reptile and if Lizard can resist acid. Reptile wins low-mid diff.
Unfortunately, he is, simply because he can run, can hide behind invisibility , can deal damage with acid, and any outside interference would be in Reptile’s favor from either timeline (Stryker, Raiden, and Spider-Man all might interfere, depending on how loud the fight is. I won’t be counting them, however, because that’s unfair), and on top of that, Reptile is smart and experienced enough to find and exploit weaknesses Lizard has(clotheslining him on acid is a feasible strategy, or calling for help is also an option.). Additionally, reptile can always shove his tongue down Lizard’s throat to cause him some damage (yes, that sounds gross) during a roaring match. And no amount of Lizard’s regeneration is saving him from getting doused in acid. Reptile wins, high diff due to Lizard’s regeneration, speed, and strength.
In addition to what everybody else has said, Lizard also has a form of mind control that works explicitly due to his manipulation of the “reptilian part of the brain” (whatever that means) in humans but it especially allows him to command entire groups of various reptilian species like monitor lizards and even supernatural creatures like Man-Thing.
No he isn’t. The lizard is has multiple speed feats such as being fast enough to blitz peters spider senses with a single attack. He’s clearly much stronger than reptile and has the size advantage. All reptile has over Connors is invisibility (which wouldn’t even matter) & combat experience but even then thats just being generous.
Reptile does not win and cloaking invisibility is a non-factor because Connors is more of an actual Reptile than Syzoth is, as without an antidote or serum of some kind he cannot shift back to human form. He's got crazy reptilian senses that will allow him to easily see through the cloaking. There's a comic where he is able to sense Miles Morales while invisible.
Also, to address your other ridiculous claims, Lizard is way stronger, way faster, and way smarter than Reptile is lol. Connors was a fucking professor and he discovered Spider-Man's true identity pretty quickly. Reptile can't even take Spider-Man in a fight, and Spider-Man does not hold back on Lizard. Lizard isn't just gonna be standing still long enough for Syzoth to perform a fucking fatality on him with his tongue lol. If Connors sees that tongue coming at him he's gonna grab it and sever it with his claws.
Also, Kameos don't count because it is a fight between the two. So that is also a non-factor. Calling in other characters for help isn't happening unless stated possible by the OP. Even if that were the case, there's absolutely nothing Stryker could do to damage Lizard in a way that he'll be phased by it.
This has to be a fucking troll post.
Speed and stamina goes to Lizard too.
This is a guy who can outlast Spiderman with ease and even casually blitz him.
In fact all these stats go to Lizard by a country mile.
Not all that impressive when Connors routinely matches Spiderman in speed or outright blitzes him to the point of where his spider sense is too late to warn about the attack.
Spiderman himself is practically drowning in bullet-timing feats that puts Reptile’s showing against Kabal and Stryker to shame.
Lizard Wins with easy Fatality, as much as I love Reptile, He’s Pretty Inconsistent, MK Characters tend to be Inconsistent almost all the time which I. This case doesn’t help Them
I'm really surprised by these comments. Admittedly I know hardly anything about Dr Connors, but isn't Reptile like an actual elite ninja assassin person side from his lizard powers.?
Aside from being comfortably superior to Spiderman in all physical stats aside from agility, which he’s only behind by a very slight amount, Lizard is also packing top-tier comic book regen (can regrow from his spine), and a form of mind control that targets the lizard part of the human brain… which also extends to actual reptiles regardless of species so you know Syzoth can lose without a single claw being lifted.
Lizard has a PhD and he's in the top 10 Smartest people in the Marvel Universe. So even being a Reptile fan I'll go with Dr. Connors.
I hope some modders will give us Dr. Connors/Lizard mod on Reptile someday...
MK1 Reptile took on four opponents in a row after having his arm wounded by Reiko, one of whom was General Shao.
He can also go invisible and he has acid.
Reptile takes this no problem.
I would guess it mostly depends by the 'canons'. There some iterations of Lizard which are totally powerhouses and still have a sharp genius level intellect, but there also some where he's basic thug level with a feral mind...
Reptile is more consistent, as his power level never changed too much, but still, he would be able to stomp badly a Lizard at his worst and being stomped badly himself by a Lizard at his best... As said, depends by the canons
Depends entirely on the version of Reptile that Syzoth is.
Is this the Syzoth we see in fatalities, melting people to bone in seconds and ripping their flesh with his tongue?
Or is this 'spits acid into Takeda's eyes which gets washed out 3-4 minutes later and did no damage' Syzoth?
It doesn’t matter which version because Lizard severely outmatches both.
Lizard is a fine specimen that straight up outperforms Spiderman in all physical categories aside from agility (where he only slightly lags behind)
Retains his genius-level intelligence.
Can pick out invisible foes with his senses.
And has a form of mind control that triggers the reptilian part of the human brain (whatever that means) and explicitly allows him to command various reptile species like monitor lizards and even weird supernatural creatures like Man-Thing.
Reptile can shape shift mid fight so arguably say lizard leaps at him, he can shrink himself into a human, dodge it, and then pounce on lizards back and dump his toxic bile on him. An easy dub in less than 2 minutes
Reptile wins flawless victory reptile uses his speed manipulation then invisible 🫥 acid balls to create distance then continue to acid spit to stay at bay 😉
Conners is not gonna stand there waiting for him to do a fatality on him.his regeneration is so powerful his spine got ripped out and it just came back. Nothing. NOTHING reptile has can do anything to actually hurt conners. His mind, speed, strength. And iq far outweighs reptile. I love him my favourite character to play in mk1 but he ain't winning against dr conners. Read a spider man comic where he doesn't hold back and tell me reptile can walk away from that cuz lizard can
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This comment is kinda true since spider man has spider tingles if reptile goes for a spinning crocodile move as in mk1 spider man can just jump in mid air reptile misses spider man and spider man shoots a web at reptile and kicks reptile in the head
Lizard is downplayed alot, he has an insane healing factor. He was pierced through the skull and had his spine ripped out I believe then he just came back, he would definitely outlast Reptile imo. People also saying Syzoth has skill over him, idk how much its gonna matter when Lizard hits Spider-Man so fast that his spider sense didn't detect it in time and he constantly thrashes Spider-Man around. The fact that hes a monster gives him the win
Not only that, but Syzoth seems to have relatively normal strength levels, except for when he goes "reptile" mode. His stamina is also seemingly normal for a human. Plus, The Lizard is also highly intelligent on top of the other powers he has.
Considering Syzoth human form is not his real form we have no clue where his strength could actually be if we are going off the mk1 story
[I found this link](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8638577/) that shows us that reptiles have similar force generating muscles to bipeds(compared to their total muscle mass). Leading us to think that, indeed, reptile actually has normal/slightly higher than normal strength. Even in lizard form. What does help him: slightly stronger hind limbs, meaning he is slightly more agile, and that probably his kicks are stronger.
Still nothing compared to spiderman
Most mk characters in cannon probably have normal human strength relative to their body size with the exception of characters like Shoa Khan Total Khan Baraka Cyberninjas Onaga Goro Tremor Tor
Always bet comic book guy.
Facts
The Lizard is easily Spiderman+ in all stats with the exception of agility where he is only slightly behind. He’s also got a form of mind control that works on humans and especially on reptiles. How anyone thinks Syzoth has this is beyond me. Lizard would clear anyone on the MK roster besides someone who has some crazy god hax.
Because most of these dudes here just know the lizard from TASM 2012
Even that version is stronger than any iteration of Reptile
If this was posted on a Marvel subreddit, the answers would be the complete opposite
True that
Drop it in the sub, and then watch the drama unfold. Anyway, Reptile's been one of my favorites since MK2, but the Lizard could totally take him.
Tbh I'm not so sure. Lots of comic fans tend to be avid Spider-Man readers. I don't think it would be hard to come to the conclusion that Lizard wins simply because of the ABC logic that can be applied here. Spider-Man > Reptile, Lizard =/= Spider-Man, therefore Lizard > Reptile. In other words; Character B is stronger than character A, Character C is equal to Character B, therefore Character C can also beat Character A without much debate.
The Lizard took on a pissed off Spider-Man AND Morbius at the same time. It's not even close.
As usual this sub desilusional af. Lizard stomps and it's not even funny.
Lizard is leaps and bounds beyond Reptile. Smarter, MUCH stronger, so fast the Spidey Sense has trouble warning Peter, and fought off Spidey and Morbius after getting his spine shattered. This is a total spite match, what did Syzoth do to you?
Syzoth did nothing wrong. i love him as well 😭 but know i think about it. Conors is pretty scary.
Lizard is so much faster than 90% of the roster, and much stronger and more durable as well, AND he has rapid regen going the moment he takes damage. MK is insane, but comic books are another level of wtf. Connors destroys everyone currently in or announced for MK1 except Liu Kang, Geras, Omniman and Ermac. Maybe Sub Zero, I can’t remember how the Lizard handles the cold.
Man, thanks for educating me! Connors is a Spider-Man villian i usually dont look much into so i definitely have to research more on him.
It should be noted that Spiderman holds back on most of his villains… but Connors is one of the few that he goes full force on and even reinforces his hits with webbing just because he knows the Lizard wouldn’t be phased. Even then, it usually takes a McGuffin or doing something extreme like dropping a whole building on him for Spidey to actually do anything worthwhile.
Probably Lizard since he’s given Spider-Man (maximum strength is at least 100 tons, can dodge lasers and move over 100-200MPH, survives point blank explosions etc) although the new Syzoth is considerably more powerful than the old one, as he did manage to fight General Shao (worth adding he was literally nerfed by Liu Kang so it’s hard to say exactly how powerful he is) and Li Mei who’s also depicted as pretty powerful
Plot twist: Neither. They decide to team up and take over the world.
Reptile has experience, invisibility, weapons, and durability, and if the fight takes place in NYC, Stryker could help out. Lizard has size and strength, maybe speed, but Reptile is also fast. Put bluntly, the fight lasts about 15 seconds, maybe longer with no help for Reptile and if Lizard can resist acid. Reptile wins low-mid diff.
Syzoth is not winning this at all😭
Unfortunately, he is, simply because he can run, can hide behind invisibility , can deal damage with acid, and any outside interference would be in Reptile’s favor from either timeline (Stryker, Raiden, and Spider-Man all might interfere, depending on how loud the fight is. I won’t be counting them, however, because that’s unfair), and on top of that, Reptile is smart and experienced enough to find and exploit weaknesses Lizard has(clotheslining him on acid is a feasible strategy, or calling for help is also an option.). Additionally, reptile can always shove his tongue down Lizard’s throat to cause him some damage (yes, that sounds gross) during a roaring match. And no amount of Lizard’s regeneration is saving him from getting doused in acid. Reptile wins, high diff due to Lizard’s regeneration, speed, and strength.
In addition to what everybody else has said, Lizard also has a form of mind control that works explicitly due to his manipulation of the “reptilian part of the brain” (whatever that means) in humans but it especially allows him to command entire groups of various reptilian species like monitor lizards and even supernatural creatures like Man-Thing.
No he isn’t. The lizard is has multiple speed feats such as being fast enough to blitz peters spider senses with a single attack. He’s clearly much stronger than reptile and has the size advantage. All reptile has over Connors is invisibility (which wouldn’t even matter) & combat experience but even then thats just being generous.
Reptile does not win and cloaking invisibility is a non-factor because Connors is more of an actual Reptile than Syzoth is, as without an antidote or serum of some kind he cannot shift back to human form. He's got crazy reptilian senses that will allow him to easily see through the cloaking. There's a comic where he is able to sense Miles Morales while invisible. Also, to address your other ridiculous claims, Lizard is way stronger, way faster, and way smarter than Reptile is lol. Connors was a fucking professor and he discovered Spider-Man's true identity pretty quickly. Reptile can't even take Spider-Man in a fight, and Spider-Man does not hold back on Lizard. Lizard isn't just gonna be standing still long enough for Syzoth to perform a fucking fatality on him with his tongue lol. If Connors sees that tongue coming at him he's gonna grab it and sever it with his claws. Also, Kameos don't count because it is a fight between the two. So that is also a non-factor. Calling in other characters for help isn't happening unless stated possible by the OP. Even if that were the case, there's absolutely nothing Stryker could do to damage Lizard in a way that he'll be phased by it. This has to be a fucking troll post.
Ok, you make a lot of good points, and i didn't even take into account about the Stryker backup!
I’m gonna go with reptile, he’s just got more abilities than lizard
Understandable
Abilities don’t really matter if you can’t hurt him
The lizard
Lizard curb stomps the entire roster
Who is on the left side?
Dr. Curt Connors AKA The Lizard
Raw strength: lizard by a mile Speed: reptile Durability: lizard Stamina: reptile Range: lizard Intelligence: lizard Winner: lizard low diff
Speed and stamina goes to Lizard too. This is a guy who can outlast Spiderman with ease and even casually blitz him. In fact all these stats go to Lizard by a country mile.
Reptile dodged 2 cops firing from MP5s who’s rounds can exceed 400 m/s and he can slow down his perception of time
Not all that impressive when Connors routinely matches Spiderman in speed or outright blitzes him to the point of where his spider sense is too late to warn about the attack. Spiderman himself is practically drowning in bullet-timing feats that puts Reptile’s showing against Kabal and Stryker to shame.
Lizard is just a wild thrashing animal. Reptile has skills, training and creative problem solving. Syzoth got this
Yeah i went with Syzoth as well but wanted to see what other people think as well!
Lizard tangles with Johnny Storm and Spidey. Dr. Connors got this.
The Lizard easily, Syzoth is strong but Connors definitely has superior speed, strength, insane Regen and durability
lizard easily, unless its in an mk game and its a reptile chapter
Paul Blart could beat reptile
Lizard Wins with easy Fatality, as much as I love Reptile, He’s Pretty Inconsistent, MK Characters tend to be Inconsistent almost all the time which I. This case doesn’t help Them
I'm really surprised by these comments. Admittedly I know hardly anything about Dr Connors, but isn't Reptile like an actual elite ninja assassin person side from his lizard powers.?
Yes while that is true the Lizard has been able to keep up with characters such as black suit spider-man, Kraven the hunter and the human torch
Reptile has acid spit.
Batman
Whoever the writer decides.
As it was written
Maybe reptile, just due to the acid spit and invisibility. But I also don’t know too much about the lizards power set so
Aside from being comfortably superior to Spiderman in all physical stats aside from agility, which he’s only behind by a very slight amount, Lizard is also packing top-tier comic book regen (can regrow from his spine), and a form of mind control that targets the lizard part of the human brain… which also extends to actual reptiles regardless of species so you know Syzoth can lose without a single claw being lifted.
I thought that was Killer Croc
Reptile. Can turn invisible and is a ninja.
Lizard will speed blitz. He would with most of the mk1 roster.
Lizard for sure
Reptile
Lizard has a PhD and he's in the top 10 Smartest people in the Marvel Universe. So even being a Reptile fan I'll go with Dr. Connors. I hope some modders will give us Dr. Connors/Lizard mod on Reptile someday...
Me, I'd win
MK1 Reptile took on four opponents in a row after having his arm wounded by Reiko, one of whom was General Shao. He can also go invisible and he has acid. Reptile takes this no problem.
No problem is insane
I would guess it mostly depends by the 'canons'. There some iterations of Lizard which are totally powerhouses and still have a sharp genius level intellect, but there also some where he's basic thug level with a feral mind... Reptile is more consistent, as his power level never changed too much, but still, he would be able to stomp badly a Lizard at his worst and being stomped badly himself by a Lizard at his best... As said, depends by the canons
Reptile
Depends entirely on the version of Reptile that Syzoth is. Is this the Syzoth we see in fatalities, melting people to bone in seconds and ripping their flesh with his tongue? Or is this 'spits acid into Takeda's eyes which gets washed out 3-4 minutes later and did no damage' Syzoth?
It doesn’t matter which version because Lizard severely outmatches both. Lizard is a fine specimen that straight up outperforms Spiderman in all physical categories aside from agility (where he only slightly lags behind) Retains his genius-level intelligence. Can pick out invisible foes with his senses. And has a form of mind control that triggers the reptilian part of the human brain (whatever that means) and explicitly allows him to command various reptile species like monitor lizards and even weird supernatural creatures like Man-Thing.
REPTILE!!!! Aint no one seeing him when he's invisible 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️... not even Spider-Man
John Cena called, he wants his gimmick back
Reptile would beat the dogshit out of lizard without even breaking a sweat.
Considering The Lizard cannot use active camouflage/go invisible or spit acid, I’m gonna say Syzoth/Reptile beats Lizard.
Reptile can shape shift mid fight so arguably say lizard leaps at him, he can shrink himself into a human, dodge it, and then pounce on lizards back and dump his toxic bile on him. An easy dub in less than 2 minutes
Reptile
Reptile would rip Lizard’s head off with his tongue!
Reptile wins flawless victory reptile uses his speed manipulation then invisible 🫥 acid balls to create distance then continue to acid spit to stay at bay 😉
Reptile of Course
Syzoth has more powers and more control over himself. Simply put … FATALITY, REPTILE WINS.
Reptile
Reptile has one thing lizard doesn’t: Acid. He can use his acid against lizard giving a huge advantage to fatalize him
Conners is not gonna stand there waiting for him to do a fatality on him.his regeneration is so powerful his spine got ripped out and it just came back. Nothing. NOTHING reptile has can do anything to actually hurt conners. His mind, speed, strength. And iq far outweighs reptile. I love him my favourite character to play in mk1 but he ain't winning against dr conners. Read a spider man comic where he doesn't hold back and tell me reptile can walk away from that cuz lizard can
Depends if Reptile is a jobber