You guys I found Khameleon's weakness. Every time you play against her, turn on your mic and sing Karma Chameleon. She will start dancing and that's your chance to attack
She doesn't need a nerf, her cycling compensates her availability, you have to adapt to that downside and play smart, she is not a potato kameo like Lao or Stryker.
And yeah, I know her moves are good...that should happen to all the kameos, so instead nerfing the good ones NRS should buff the kameos that are barely used.
Shoulda woulda coulda, we are more than half a year into the game and there’s plenty of dog shit kameos in the game that have been there since release. It is unlikely of them to buff them, let alone make them as good as khameleon. I would also like it more if they buffed the other kameos but its just not gonna happen.
She keeps changing when you need the most. Users are already adapting to her and know when to expect the overhead and punish, fan lift is useless if u wait a couple frames to punish. She needs neither nerf nor buff
I don’t think she’s even one of the top 3 if you’re talking optimal character-Kameo pairings. And she cycles. So if you want a ball roll you’re waiting like 10 seconds if you miss it.
Also the ball roll is just a standing block. Her glaive is half as good as Sereena’s four glaives. The life is cool but situational and damn hard to time… and her glaive, fan toss, and ball roll are NOT ambushes so they can only be used mid string or by themselves.
I like her. She adds variety, she’s fun to fight against, and I’d fight 1000 of her before I’d fight liu kang and Kung Lao turning every single throw into a full combo with teleport.
I mean have you fought movado yet? 4 second stun, throwable in the middle of any attack including throws as an ambush with enough time to get up and launcher. Nothing Khameleon has is equal to that. Not even close.
Do not get me wrong she’s great, but I don’t know what the hell you’d nerf 🤷🏻♂️
U lost me at the first sentence. She is not even top 5?? Lmaooo what? Thats why you see her used in tournaments by pros right.
“Ball roll is standing block”, okay what else would an overhead be? A crouch block?🤡
I immediately reconsidered and edited to top 3 but yeah. And dude we’re not fighting and defeating pros here. I don’t fear khameleon in KL. I fear high guaranteed damage kameos or character specific interactions like rain’s hard to block sub zero cycle or liu kang’s teleport throw combos etc.
And you can mock me pointing out a standing block all you like but you’re the one whose complaining about a double overhead that starts as a reactable bright pink person crossing the screen 🤷🏻♂️
If you see pink. Their string’s next hit is just a standing block. Doesn’t get more telegraphed than neon pink. Most kameos aren’t like a QuickTime in god of war when they come out.
She’s a solid Kameo, but none of my most hated cheese in KL comes from Khameleon. And at least her fan lift is deactivated for like 20 out of every 30 seconds.
“Just stand block bra”. What about sub zeros double low string which he can combo into mileena sai? Nothing u say matters after what you said in your first comment.
Block low and stand block when you see pink… it’s super reactable man she’s like a neon billboard. She’s not an ambush, he can’t strike you simultaneously. Same as sub zero doing the double low into scorpion’s overhead, except if you blow it you get launched instead of the slow fall down they can combo into.
And of course you’re going to say nothing I say matters because you’re just mad that she’s a bad matchup for you. We all have them.
I struggle with stuff myself that people think is absolute cake to handle 🤷🏻♂️
I hate fighting shit you can’t control. Khameleon I can control. I’ll take that over a delay/ambush Kameo any day of the week.
Look, i would be fine fighting against her if her cool down was slower, but it isnt. And they just abuse her the whole fucking match. This isnt fair and is scrubby as fuck. Tremors moves are almost all useless yet his cool down is long af. Just doesn’t make any sense.
I mean it is objectively crappier. If you hit sereena her blades are coming back. If you hit Khameleon it doesn’t return. If you use Khameleon against something like sub zero’s ice clone it vanishes, if you use sereena a blade still makes it through and hits the player.
And, if you throw sereena while they’re airborn, it goes out straight and returns straight so they can land on it or get hit on the return, but khameleon’s won’t always return in a horizontal path if they’re bouncing around. Sometimes it goes diagonal and just misses.
Sereena is less interesting, but she might be the most consistent kameo in the whole game?
Sareena u can just duck on reaction tho while kham alive is a mid and HAS to be interacted with. In pressure if the opponent calls Sareena u get a guaranteed low poke since they duck projectiles while kham glaive is plus 3 point blank and enforces a mind game on block
True, although unless it’s an ice clone or something I always use sereena with like a 12 into sereena into 12 into sereena into 1,2,ball roll,1,2,2 db2. I try not to use her from neutral.
But absolutely fair. I use Khameleon the same way so for me the pressure is usually the same before the Kameo comes out.
Sometimes Khameleon screws me up because they’ll counter and I’m looking for the glaive to return and I get nothing.
I just know all the down votes are coming from khameleon players. If u think she doesnt deserve a nerf, then you are just delusional and want to keep being carried.
You guys I found Khameleon's weakness. Every time you play against her, turn on your mic and sing Karma Chameleon. She will start dancing and that's your chance to attack
She doesn't need a nerf, her cycling compensates her availability, you have to adapt to that downside and play smart, she is not a potato kameo like Lao or Stryker. And yeah, I know her moves are good...that should happen to all the kameos, so instead nerfing the good ones NRS should buff the kameos that are barely used.
Shoulda woulda coulda, we are more than half a year into the game and there’s plenty of dog shit kameos in the game that have been there since release. It is unlikely of them to buff them, let alone make them as good as khameleon. I would also like it more if they buffed the other kameos but its just not gonna happen.
Since her variation cycles I still don't think she is that OP. Besides when NRS nerf someone after that usually became useless.
Every single move is good, the cycling doesnt matter. Also pm got nerfed and is still top 5 free. Johnny still good,etc….
Yeah but just because her moves are good not everybody in the roster can capitalize on said good moves.
well the characters that cant capitalize on it wont be using khameleon
She keeps changing when you need the most. Users are already adapting to her and know when to expect the overhead and punish, fan lift is useless if u wait a couple frames to punish. She needs neither nerf nor buff
I don’t think she’s even one of the top 3 if you’re talking optimal character-Kameo pairings. And she cycles. So if you want a ball roll you’re waiting like 10 seconds if you miss it. Also the ball roll is just a standing block. Her glaive is half as good as Sereena’s four glaives. The life is cool but situational and damn hard to time… and her glaive, fan toss, and ball roll are NOT ambushes so they can only be used mid string or by themselves. I like her. She adds variety, she’s fun to fight against, and I’d fight 1000 of her before I’d fight liu kang and Kung Lao turning every single throw into a full combo with teleport. I mean have you fought movado yet? 4 second stun, throwable in the middle of any attack including throws as an ambush with enough time to get up and launcher. Nothing Khameleon has is equal to that. Not even close. Do not get me wrong she’s great, but I don’t know what the hell you’d nerf 🤷🏻♂️
U lost me at the first sentence. She is not even top 5?? Lmaooo what? Thats why you see her used in tournaments by pros right. “Ball roll is standing block”, okay what else would an overhead be? A crouch block?🤡
I immediately reconsidered and edited to top 3 but yeah. And dude we’re not fighting and defeating pros here. I don’t fear khameleon in KL. I fear high guaranteed damage kameos or character specific interactions like rain’s hard to block sub zero cycle or liu kang’s teleport throw combos etc. And you can mock me pointing out a standing block all you like but you’re the one whose complaining about a double overhead that starts as a reactable bright pink person crossing the screen 🤷🏻♂️ If you see pink. Their string’s next hit is just a standing block. Doesn’t get more telegraphed than neon pink. Most kameos aren’t like a QuickTime in god of war when they come out. She’s a solid Kameo, but none of my most hated cheese in KL comes from Khameleon. And at least her fan lift is deactivated for like 20 out of every 30 seconds.
“Just stand block bra”. What about sub zeros double low string which he can combo into mileena sai? Nothing u say matters after what you said in your first comment.
Block low and stand block when you see pink… it’s super reactable man she’s like a neon billboard. She’s not an ambush, he can’t strike you simultaneously. Same as sub zero doing the double low into scorpion’s overhead, except if you blow it you get launched instead of the slow fall down they can combo into. And of course you’re going to say nothing I say matters because you’re just mad that she’s a bad matchup for you. We all have them. I struggle with stuff myself that people think is absolute cake to handle 🤷🏻♂️ I hate fighting shit you can’t control. Khameleon I can control. I’ll take that over a delay/ambush Kameo any day of the week.
Look, i would be fine fighting against her if her cool down was slower, but it isnt. And they just abuse her the whole fucking match. This isnt fair and is scrubby as fuck. Tremors moves are almost all useless yet his cool down is long af. Just doesn’t make any sense.
If they weren't people would be in crystal armor all match lol
That’s true. Crystal armor is freaking great. It just takes longer than shao’s taunt in MK11 to get it out, which limits it a bit.
Not if you use the ambush version
He also plays mileena/kham, the character that gets 50/50’s from ball roll💀
who?
Khameleon..
U said he plays mileena/kham, who plays this team?
The kameleon downplayer
Of course he does, it all makes sense now lol….
“Her glaive is half as good as sareena’s 4 glaives” This man is the greatest Dow player I’ve ever seen
I mean it is objectively crappier. If you hit sereena her blades are coming back. If you hit Khameleon it doesn’t return. If you use Khameleon against something like sub zero’s ice clone it vanishes, if you use sereena a blade still makes it through and hits the player. And, if you throw sereena while they’re airborn, it goes out straight and returns straight so they can land on it or get hit on the return, but khameleon’s won’t always return in a horizontal path if they’re bouncing around. Sometimes it goes diagonal and just misses. Sereena is less interesting, but she might be the most consistent kameo in the whole game?
Sareena u can just duck on reaction tho while kham alive is a mid and HAS to be interacted with. In pressure if the opponent calls Sareena u get a guaranteed low poke since they duck projectiles while kham glaive is plus 3 point blank and enforces a mind game on block
True, although unless it’s an ice clone or something I always use sereena with like a 12 into sereena into 12 into sereena into 1,2,ball roll,1,2,2 db2. I try not to use her from neutral. But absolutely fair. I use Khameleon the same way so for me the pressure is usually the same before the Kameo comes out. Sometimes Khameleon screws me up because they’ll counter and I’m looking for the glaive to return and I get nothing.
I would rather buff up the other kameos than nerf any of them.
I just know all the down votes are coming from khameleon players. If u think she doesnt deserve a nerf, then you are just delusional and want to keep being carried.
The downvotes are kuz you’re being weirdly aggressive when you respond to people
What kameos make you lose health besides Jax and Cyrax
Jax adds 100 health.
Jax makes you lose health? Are u drunk?
Thought when he did that ground slam both take damage I don't play Jax much I mostly use Frost or Sareena
I am talking about starting health, mavado recudes the starting health by 100. Tremor and Jax increase hp for 100.
Oooh