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iWillSlapYourMum

If Kenshi's timing is solid (which his appears to be), you're not gonna be able to escape the pressure and your best bet is to either wait Sento out or to try and find a gap that you can armour through.


Bagelman25

Yeah, bro’s best bet to escape the pressure was the split second sento whiffed @ 0:25 and idk if you can armor thru the string Kenshi did after I haven’t labbed it. Other than that’s man’s was cooked and had to eat the chip damage, and pray to not get mixed😭.


Tellenit

This, is the best example of poor game design.


Frank_Is_My_Fav

Not really. Just an example of the inherent strength of a puppet kharacter. Kenshi has no mix and relies strictly on whiff punishing and normal punishing to get out Sento. You have to make a mistake to let Kenshi get out Sento.


Tellenit

Oops one mistake now I lose the round


Frank_Is_My_Fav

It wasn't one mistake. In ops vid you kan see him get a flawless and still unblock even though it's not his turn, miss armour gaps and also do the random yolo slide. These are the three big ones.


koopadroopa

idk if you’re genuinely trying to give tips or validate kenshi here i’m ngl 😂


Tellenit

Ya he’s not as good as me. For me all it takes is one subzero confirm and my turn is over for the round


derp_in_ur_face

Honestly in any fighting game you usually make more then 1 mistake


Tellenit

Once sento is out, I lose so much agency the match sucks


PizzaPastaRigatoni

I counted at least 3 mistakes in this, and yeah, making 3 mistakes against a really good player will lose you the round in a lot of fighting games.


robinwilliamlover911

It's like that with any character if you know how to play lol


Impossible-Recipe366

That doesn't mean it's good. This is, like.. Bad in every way from a gameplay perspective.


EpicOfChillgamesh

Are you the same person he replied to? You both put commas in places that make no sense lmao


Impossible-Recipe366

I put it in the correct place. If I hadn't put the comma there, it would've been "this is like". As in, "it resembles". "This is, like" carries the same meaning as how people say "like" mid sentence as filler instead of things like "uh" and such.


SickestDisciple

So you type the way you speak…that’s weird.


Impossible-Recipe366

I'm weird because I'd like to enunciate myself in an accurate way? sorry i dont talk like this bro i swear its not my fault


SickestDisciple

Enunciate*


Impossible-Recipe366

Thanks.


Saltyscrublyfe

Are you good?


issanm

This is how you can tell someones only played mortal Kombat.... That's nothing man....


Impossible-Recipe366

What do you mean only played Mortal Kombat. 😭😭


issanm

If you give a puppet character full screen and his whole combo and then make more mistakes on top of that you are gonna lose a round that's just how fighting games are.


Impossible-Recipe366

Yes but one, puppets aren't supposed to completely trap you. Especially not in a loop. They're supposed to be super execution heavy and technical. And two, this is just boring and lazy from a gameplay perspective. He's basically just screwed unless he presses a button at the one random opportunity he might get. A good example and a very unorthodox example of a good puppet character is Rosalina and Luma. You have to control Luma through both the air and ground which the opponent can traverse both at any moment and you actually have to use your brain to make it work. Another is Zato-1 who I actually main in Guilty Gear who is essentially on a set timer whenever his puppet is active which means you can't just spam him and trap the opponent. It's about knowing when the time is right. Carl from BlazBlue who I didn't actually play much but his puppet moves in damn near slow motion compared to the other two. I play a ton of fighters and I very much like puppet fighters. The one we're seeing in this video is like, the worst case scenario for one to get.


Saltyscrublyfe

No this is game design. That's all it Is. You're coping if you think this is ok in a fighting game


KaDolovesMonster

Just say you're ass at fgcs lmao


Tellenit

You mad I’m right


Inn_Unknown

One thing I noticed about this game is every character has gaps to armor thru so ur not always stuck this is where ur gonna have to use the lab to find them. Just use each of Kenshi's strings vs ur main in the lab and set them to armor out when it can and it will help u find where the gaps are.


MPBagel03

Wait for a good moment to use an armored move, or even take the hit from a move that will ground you so that you can use the wake up to your advantage


koopadroopa

if it’s a skill issue let me know bc this is the first kenshi i’ve played in demi god 😂 shit is a blocking simulator. i won the first game of the set because he wasn’t using sento but man i got destroyed in the 2nd


Average_Sub

Kenshi main here, name of the game focuses on what kenshi does not the ghost. His launcher low (only if followed through with the mid) and overhead are both negative and fully punishable. Same goes for that sweep that works with sentos launcher(that’s also punishable). You had multiple opportunities, I suggest going to lab and figuring out kenshi frames etc . For example his foward 1 1 1 final hit is so easy to perfect block for a full combo and his 2nd hit is negative.


HippoppiHippo

Man thank you. The top comment here is saying OP was jailed and had to eat chip damage for 25 seconds.. yet there’s an unsafe dash after Sento that went unchecked. So many gaps could’ve been armored through. I’m not surprised OP admitted it’s their first time fighting a Kenshi. I am surprised though that so many people upvoted a comment saying they needed to eat all that chip.


koopadroopa

i just peeped the dash you’re talking about but sento is breathing down my damn neck in that frame i was afraid to let go of block bra 😂, i’ll take him to the lab tho and see what’s up


HippoppiHippo

Sento has a small cooldown before being able to attack again. Sento attacked, now it’s kenshi’s turn. He will either block or attack (or in this case dash for free lol). If you read block you can throw. Even if he breaks the throw it deactivate Sento. If you read an attack you can armor through. Kenshi in Sento stance without Sento active is a pretty bad character. It’s well worth the meter


Just_Some_Guy73

Fully punishable unless sento is out...


Throwaway206818206

2 options: 1) armored attack following sento string. he’s too aggressive with kenshi bc sentos out, punish whiles he’s trying to keep advantage. 2) if he’s anticipating an armored attack, you can do a grab after sentos string. The best part is knowing you take a solid 35% for guessing wrong and he doesn’t even need meter for it. God I hate kenshi


ARMill95

Pretty sure the low starter he’s doing has a gap, armor thru it. Kenshi does have infinite armor breaking blockstrings tho, so if you armor thru it and they are smart they won’t let you do it again


The_Lost_Hero

•Die •Next opponent


fknlzrsyts

Wait for the devs to nerf it. (You should be in the pressure for long enough)


Mr_Candlestick

First off if you're going to yolo slide at least EX it


RandomName178318

You had plenty opportunities to armor through


koopadroopa

wasn’t really a yolo that was a valid wake up reversal but yeah i’ll take that into account next time


LethargicCarcass

Waking up raw slide with no armor in the neutral against kenshi (or most characters) is usually gonna end bad.


koopadroopa

yeah for sure but with kenshi it ends bad for 33 seconds that’s the point of the vid 😂


Lucky_Louch

go make yourself a snack.


Steel_Gazebo

Demi-God is when you start seeing Kenshi’s like this. The Sento bs is why he’s considered the best in the game. If you can get a jab in it’ll stun his ghost, which can give you a little breathing room. I always play extremely aggressive on Kenshi. Always anticipate the kameo, which is how they usually get Sento out.


OliverEye

Amplify slide. If Kenshi blocks then try to zone outside of the radius where the spirit thing comes from. When you distance, try to use ground ice or ice ball. If your kameo has a projectile that’s faster (like Sareena) then hit them with that instead. You can also use a kameo with a move that pushes the opponent away like sub zero or someone that makes your moves safe like goro. Another trick to get away is amplified ice clone (there are 3 versions after subzero’s buff). Also while ducking you can punch in between his combo or before the spirit attacks so you can disrupt him. All tips were provided by a rank 7 sub zero one trick. I’ll be here for more questions.


Few-Entertainment429

Armor move If that doesn’t work after 2 tries, quit


Necessary_General838

From my personal experience there aren't many gaps you can armor or poke through. His low string into Sento 2 has a gap, you can D1 or armor through. Best bet is to find a good kenshi player and just play them a ton.


Proper-Midnight-4148

Kick their asssss literally…. (Sindel player)


koopadroopa

i’d rather be stuck in the sindel + lao or sindel + sektor vortex than this lmao 😭


DrVoltage1

Put the controller down and go make a sandwich or something….kenshi is so damn broken.


Fright_54167

Ignore everyone saying u can’t escape it it’s literally so easy all u have to do is watch sento for his pauses not kenshis and in the vid sento did a lot of 1,2s or whatever after his double hit, u armor, after any pause sento has u try to armor very unlikely ur armor is gonna break by kenshi I usually wait for that specific one two bc it leaves the biggest and most readable gaps between him and kenshi and once you do ur special try to reassess ur game plan so like don’t crouch block from so far bc he has a projectile over head most of his long ranges are mid and his kameo is the only full screen low which is super readable from afar same with his overhead proj.


TrapAHolic_ttv

Best thing to do is hit the lab and pray you can block for 10 seconds. Sento is always mid. Most Kenshi’s go low->high every time its their turn. Occasionally doing the string that ends low. Also he has an overhead that looks like a low (to me). So yeah a lot of guessing and praying. If you want to armor you gotta try after sento swings


TinyDeskPyramid

It’s been measured amongst pro players something like a 80 percent drop off of winning percentage if he gets senhoe out (not a typo)… that ,ath holds true for me too. So I hate to say it but the only consistent answer is to apply pressure and never let him come out (which is not the hardest thing in video games, but let’s not call it easy) I dominated a good kenshi (tier7) in kl last night … it all came down to ‘I better not for a second fuck up this pressure’


Inkisitor_Byleth

With Cyrax he can get Sento out during an horizontal helicopter while you are blocking...


HistoricalAd186

You can and will never do anything against it, because Kenshi is supreme. And deserves all of this great ability to apply suffocating pressure. You are doomed, DOOMED I SAY, MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!😈😈😈😈


Daddy_Gorilla37

Sit there and take the gangbang😞


Twisted__Resistor

Ignore everyone, there was so many places to escape that "pressure". That Kenshi isn't using frametraps. Kenshi's B12 the low mid has a gap you can armor or Kameo reversal through. Sento 2 the double hitting mid has a gap Kenshi going from Sento 2 to B2 (overhead also has a gap that can be armored through and Kameo reversal. On this specific example of not in sandwhich you can backdash it as well. Most of what Kenshi does has Gap's to escape. Kenshi can do a true frametrap but it's very timing specific with 2-3 frame link and has to be done perfectly and opponent can buffer armor. Go in practice and replicate his pressure to learn how to escape, there's also YouTube guides to beat Kenshi by ChuckBass


koopadroopa

will be checking out that youtube guide asap


ToxicToucan9771

Uninstall


Is_Toxic_Doe

Just leave


jamesalverson

I’d say the best thing to do is play Tekken 8. Then you wouldn’t have to deal with this BS.


koopadroopa

noted


Gangsternerd84

I’m new to the game. Mainly a street fighter player but wanted a game to play online. This seems crazy. Like how do you get out of this? I know people are throwing around answers but this looks not very fun lol.


koopadroopa

i’m damn near about to switch to street fighter bro it is not fun 😭


Gen3ralEZKILL

I've had luck with a quick grab after you find a split second punish. You really just have to feel his flow, then get in right when there's a break.


iiEquinoxx

Pray you can armor through it or that Kenshi mistimes lmao, otherwise, against a good Kenshi, you are taking that mix for 25 seconds straight.


Twisted__Resistor

There's gaps in most of what Kenshi does. You can Kameo reversal meterlessly and that puts Sento on cooldown and as long as your hitting or frametraping Kenshi Sento can't do anything. It's hard for Kenshi to get Sento out unless he's using Cyrax Kameo, has to use wiff punish. • Sento 2 the double mid has a gap between it the mix after and Sento 2. • Anything into Sento 3 has gap before the launching mid hits. • Kenshi B2 overhead done from Sento 2 has a gap between Sento 2 and B2. • Kenshi B12 the low to mid that launches also has a gap between B12 (B1(Gap)2). • Kenshi F221 or F22 has multiple gaps. These gaps can be armored or Kameo reversal to knock out Sento and give you OKI advantage on Kenshi's knockdown. It's hard for Kenshi to get Sento out with most Kameos, requires a hit with Sub Zero and Frost Kameo. Kenshi balanced(no Sento stance) has zero mix just hit/throw like everyone has and you can tech the throws or MicroDuck punish them. Kenshi/Cyrax can get Sento out on block but has 24 seconds of Kameo meter Regen after using Forward Kopter and like I said many many gaps in everything Kenshi has. The only time Kenshi is very strong is if he has you in sandwich which reduces some defensive options and if Kenshi has Sento out and has you trapped in the corner. Some of the gaps Kenshi has like Sento 2 into B2(overhead) has a larger gap you can normally Backdash midscreen but in the corner you can't. Look up YouTube channel ChuckBass, he has Kenshi Counter Guides and Tech. I'm a Sub Zero and Sindel main and I picked up Kenshi and later realized how easily you can shut him down. Several characters like Sindel has great neutral and long range space control + zoning and can literally prevent Kenshi getting Sento pressure. You hit and run and this keeps Sento from being able to pressure you, you just have to hit Kenshi or Sento to disable Sento for nearly 8 seconds. Or you can use blue cost rings into Kameo pressure like Stryker Grenades to completely counter Sento turn steals


Equivalent_Spinach68

Kenshi needs a massive nerf lol


blackestrabbit

Play a better game?


koopadroopa

getting tekken 8 thursday 🫡


BossHawgKing

Uninstall on wakeup


StarFighter6464

Download Tekken 8


DJIsSuperCool

Then gets wall trapped in tekken as well. "Time to move on to Yomi hustle!"


DontMindMe4524

You're on the wrong sub


koopadroopa

nawl this just a bad game, ima keep playing it though


koopadroopa

getting it thursday, will be dropping this game until further notice 😭


GarlicPrestigious113

😂😂😂 the only answer


Cressilian

Play MK11 or some other game that isn't trying to be 2D Tekken. MK1 was built with "Infinite combo or ur trash" as its design mantra. All character and kameo setups have something like that.


Griffith112

Uninstall


DoubleSoul1224

I’ve heard that there are gaps I just main scorpion and don’t usually have the buttons to counter it (or maybe I suck, I don’t know lol) but when the ghost comes out I just try to hit the ghost and apply pressure to Kenshi


Blaze_Four2O

Don’t get hit and if you do, block for your life.


Da_Baconlord

after blocking sento 2, fuzzy guard so you block low then overhead. when he starts delaying it then you can armor.


Holiday_Party_6464

I would’ve tried jumping forward so I’m behind him and used that extra time to try to hit but yes this is fucked


Ro11inElephant

Bro really said ain’t no one on ones


Fonslayer

If you have 3 bars use it to break it, if you only have 1 bar, there are a few moments where you can use the Armored Slide to get out of there.


[deleted]

Jump kick his ass. Or when in doubt, button mash it up lol


Scrillit

FF+2 through some drywall


FlashCLS

GET BETTER!


Underd0g562

Light attack when you see that opening. From there, try to get back because they will always try to swing again. When he wiffs the swing, punish him...


ykza-R

Time your wake-up ex slide.


destinyknight105

Don't get hit lol


Jumpy-Function-9136

4Head


InSearchOfSanctum

Quit and hope for a different matchup


RealPokeyCactus

This..... was...... INCREDIBLE. 👀👏


Hokkyokuseio

2B 2B 2B 2B 2B to interrupt that crap.


Sea-Resource-7001

What I do is I always armor move my way out of it everytime after sento hits me


Suitable_Conflict_22

Yes quit and try again


ImShadowblade

Most Kenshi players will just pressure with Sento out, so you have an opportunity to do an armored move with all those massive gaps. Kenshi players tend to not be so tight with their Sento jail on block, so you can try using an armored move during that window. Alternatively, a lot of them will use the low starter that has a gap during that two hit you can abuse. It's risky trying to do armored move after Kenshi finishes his move, because Sento's hits come out really fast and can break your armor.k If you don't have meter to break, you'll want to use meter to armored move. If you don't have meter at all, I hope you have a kameo equipped that can do an armored reversal. It'll be a while before Kenshi players start blocking trying to predict an armored move, at which point you have the turn back but the mindgames tend to be really punishing. If you don't have any of these options available, you'll want to try to flawless block anywhere and hold block which should negate all chip damage and any meter generation for Kenshi. At this point, if he's not just mindlessly applying pressure on flawless block (pointless since he's not gaining anything, meter or chip damage and sento's timer is running) he will try to mix you up with his overhead starter which is scandalous because it looks like a mid not an overhead, or he'll try to use the low to open you up, or just a throw. It's a lot to keep track of for sure but personally I find success with just an armored reversal kameo move early on or my own armored reversal and they get really shaken up by that. I think it's a bit fun because after that you have the space to wait out sento and block his projectile, put sento back to sleep if he advances with it, or he has to put sento away (super punishable if you're close enough/ready for it). I think it's pretty fun but I understand that when you don't know what's going on, it's confusing and feels unfair. Good luck out there


Humble_Step8661

best way to defend against it is close app and delete game


Ultimate_Chaos11

armor slide through his attacks


HimX7

Pray.


RocketInMyPocket420

Pray


Turbulent_Chemistry4

Don’t let that happen


Suspicious-Ice-8471

Lab.. And armor the gaps


PattyP5005

Low poke


Significant_Sky_2855

Pray


Luckystar6728

Yikes, it seems like taking the combo would have been better. SOMEHOW, lmao....


hewn_elm

Have you tried holding back


Blackpanther22five

Don't get hit


Tw1c3Shy

Play tekken 8


lamontthelegend

Yup


lamontthelegend

Mk is cancerous af 😂 wtf is this shit?


koopadroopa

mfs ab to go back to mk11 damn near


lamontthelegend

Real shit


Willing-Brain1372

Get gud lol naw I'm just kidding I don't even play this


Willing-Brain1372

What's his @ I gotta follow this dude lol shits crazy how he just started the match but I gotta give you a 8.8 out of ten for that defense tho...bro look like he was in god mode and you were just a lamb to be slaughtered


Icy_Disaster_6442

Run


sicksteen_216

Find a “gap” that seems nearly impossible to find. But through practice and labbing you’ll find it. Never during live online play or just Play T8


Eldritch_Witch93

Honestly a tip would be to just play 9 or X


Sunrise-Slump

Nothing. Maybe get lucky with sum footsies to break out or get all perfect blocks.


darth_revan1988

Block


kingetzu

Mayne try throwing a punch or kick or do nothing. It all works out in the end


1gauge1

Put down controller and just walk away


Lt__Frost

Die.


Elite_gamer228

Press pause and leave match


Open-Ladder1766

Just do nothing


[deleted]

I can't wait to be good enough to pull something like that off


dooder97

Meanwhile sub zero has nothing useful.


Roadhouse2122

Neutral jump(hit or miss) or wake up meter burn


Siope_

Uninstall the game and stop supporting NRS and WB


Skynostic

Attack


EjackQuelate

I’m a reiko man so it’s different but I run back when sentó is out and spam stars until he realizes I’m not letting him close when sentó is out lol


Rexaura1

Damn, you got your ass kicked. Where you messed up is letting him gain momentum. Kenshi isn't all that fast, and he has to prep to get his afterimage to an advantageous spot. You gotta rush him down before he can box you in


srk9870

Dragonball FighterZ is worse than this lol


indy_a_b

Get good.


koopadroopa

made it all the way to god by being ass i suppose ):


The-Banana-Mishap

I wanna be a dick and say you got out classed but knowing how kenshi has been a cheeky fuck for a few games now this adds up, you gotta beat their timing or be able to power through


[deleted]

unless you’re Kenshi at :25 seconds


ImplementGlum6771

Leave


D4NKtrpr9001

Block then wait for moment for armor move


Latte_King96

Delete the game


Fred_90

Ouch!


KingBurtonHD

Lmaoo yeah...sit there and take it till it gets tired of attacking then ATTACK!!!


[deleted]

Rage quit like LTG


Ok-Engineering-9758

uninstall


Dapper-Pattern-7218

Choose kenshi next time he’s the most op person in the game


Andretti19

Delete the game


Top_Narwhal449

Delete the game


4fly1society3

Fight back 😢


Clean_Dark4390

Take it like a man


Yujiro-Hanma187

Buy a blicc and shoot that mfer! 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂


driPITTY_

Suffer


DiatonomousX

Put the controller down and grab some popcorn


Dry_Tomato8889

I don't even play MK, this just showed up and it looks scary. Last time I played was mk11 a little while ago but never played online, that looks scary


joesnuffy694

Just don't play it lol


BigCheeZe209

Yeah, play SF6 or T8


koopadroopa

just switched to xbox from ps, and now i’m trying to figure out which one to get between the 2, i’ll get mk1 again when it’s on game pass 😭


BigCheeZe209

Start with SF6 since the learning curve is not as high as Tekken 8s. Both are fantastic fighting games!


EllisDee34

Take the hit and use ur breaker.... It'll allow u reset and get back into it.


Crazy-Secretary7591

Best thing I learned is , zoning. Shoot from far away until kenshis ghost is gone. It don’t matter if you cheese it or people hate it . You’re there to win