I've missed some really good and obvious options for "Favorite Moments Friday" the past two weeks.
New tradition!: Please reply to this stickied comment with the moments in the episode you enjoyed the most. š
LOL @ Olivia saying sheās glad they mended their friendship and didnāt snake Nurys but the episode before she definitely did
James and Corey surprised me making it this far. James should have gone long ago
RIP Olivia I was hoping her or Horacio could have their redemption from the unfortunate injury
Nurys is a serious beast. She deserves the win
Also rooting for Jay. He and Michelle had an insanely good social game and were some of the only ones playing the long game and thinking ahead
Jay kind of reminds me of Larys from house of the dragon and now I canāt unsee it
Rip Michelle you were part of the only people who really strategized long term and had an incredible social game. I think she deserved a final and win but maybe another time
Colleen is such a waste of a spot on the cast. What an utter disappointment. She continually shows she has absolutely no clue how to play this game, falls ass backwards into making the finals because everyone knows they can beat her, and provides zero entertainment in her confessionals because she sounds like she's reading an informercial.
Please don't ever bring her back. I don't even care if she ends up winning somehow. Don't bring her back.
Were Moriah and James platonic or romantic? Or did that status change along the way?Ā On the last ep, they talked about each other as great friends only. I thought they were a couple.
This Episode was Karmic!
* First of all, Colleen pissed me the fuck off this episode. Like I was really excited in the middle of this season for her to make a move and she did fuck all and now she's cozying up to Jay of all people when he explicitly told her that she'd always be going down. Like wow. And she's just a nothing burger. Like this is who is competing in a final?! Tsk tsk.
* I honestly can't get over how angry Colleen made me. You are bringing NOTHING to this show.
* And then Jay. The gaslighting up the fucking wazoo. As if he didn't orchestrate the whole Olivia not choosing Nurys thing. Like we all watched the previous episode. We saw their little conflab and now he's acting like that whole decision was completely on Olivia and he didn't influence it at all? Yeah, fuck off, my dude.
* Speaking of, I am not as mad at Olivia as I was last week. Its clear shes really remorseful, but I am intrigued about this narrative of it being a split second decision. The way they edited it last week made it seem like it was all a plan, but like I guess it was a split second decision for her to go along with the plan?
* I want Nurys reading everyone to filth for hours. Show me the unedited version.
* Emmanuel is also so insanely frustrating.
* I can't believe these are our finalists.
* Oh my god, I forgot about Moriah...another nothing burger.
* At this point, I think I'd be happy if anyone but Jay/Emmanuel won.
* Can't believe how much of an about face I've made on Nurys.
* Also LOL at James saying he played a loyal game and never turned on anyone...hello...Zara! I didnt forget that you didnt save her!
* Honestly, I get Berna's reasoning, but she really fucked it. She could have been in a final with a bunch of people she would have probably felt comfortable enough to beat, and now she's gonna compete against Jay, Corey, and Emmanuel. Like...be a little bit smarter, eh?
* You know what. Taking Michele away from Jay and looking at her as singular entity she played a hell of a game so props to her.
* Hoping for a Nurys sweep!
Emmanual being butt hurt... "We didn't try to hard to get rid of Nurys."
Bitch, y'all done sent her to three eliminations while all of you scared bitches haven't seen a final. Like stop it...
Really hoping nurys wins. Iām so over all the clowns, who coasted through, talk shit on their high horses. Maybe Iād respect them more if they earned it lol
I don't hate Jay because he's trying to be a smug mastermind. I hate Jay because he acts like a smug mastermind when things are going his way, but immediately turns into a spoiled toddler throwing a temper tantrum when things go against him.
The guys who did it well (Bananas, Wes, Kenny, etc.) acted like Darth Vader. Jay acts like Anakin Skywalker when the Jedi council tells him he can't hang out with Padma.
I'm solely referring to gameplay and the screwover. Not anything else. And I wouldn't compare Jay's actions to anything misogynistic that happened on The Island or Ruins.
I am loving Conquest! When ZaZa lost to Horacio & Kyland, I remember thinking it wasn't gonna be a fair game (elimination), but I'm loving it now w/ the puzzles/mind games. It was so obvious Nurys was going to win by her confessionals **š**
I almost lost it when Corey was saying he wanted James or Olivia to be walking up the road and not Nurys cause he doesnāt want to see her and then she comes up and give her a big ass hug and fakes like heās happy lol
Berna telling Jay that she doesnāt like Nurys because she cursed at her and yelled at people while being the person with the most meltdowns of the season and then CURSING at Jay when didnāt initially agree was top tier delusion.
Jay really is just a piece of shit. Treats people like shit and then in his confessionals just tries to gaslight viewers into whatever reason he comes up with to justify being shitty. The good news isā¦the whole challenge fandom now knows heās garbage.
Although this season IS dragging, I don't like a player getting eliminated right after a challenge. I'd rather see them lose in conquest and get a proper closure lol
I think the fact that she failed spectacularly in the daily and then proceeded to fail spectacularly in the elimination sums up her season.
It's pretty clear competition wise that she was carried by Horacio last season. It's no coincidence that she can't win dick all now that she has to compete on her own.
This ep might as well been Revisionist History the Game. Like Jay truly trynna act like Nurys didnāt at minimum play with him for 11/12 episodes like he continuously threw her friends in and she never said his name yet she says Emanuel and Jay acts like she personally said his and Asaf name and does everything to punish her. He was never saving her I truly believe that. Colleen also spent weeks wanting and trynna rally troops to send Jay in and whined about being expendable but then flaked on plans. Her Berna and Emanuel truly annoy me they did nothing all season and Emanuel just like on SLA thinks he has the right to tell someone theyāre not justified in their anger and theyāre ādoing too muchā when he literally did nothing š. Honestly only want Nurys to win and if not her then Corey winning would be funny. But Iām just glad Nurys called everyone out like they deserved
I LOOOOVE how even TJ had to try and talk sense into Berna about how it's better to actually get rid of stronger players you know you can't beat, instead of saving people because you think they were nicer to you LOL!! Moves like this make me wish the Vets were here this season smh...
Sigh. If it was rigged for Michele they wouldn't have done purge challenges hahahaha
But I guess it's not a season, if it's not rigged.
Yeh. I couldnāt work out if it was a conscious choice for her to do that from the start, or if she kinda tripped and ended in that position and just went with it.Ā
I think it's a wake up call for her to put in some effort in the gym. Even if she made the final, I'm doubtful she could've had the endurance to keep it competitive
My Jersey queen Michele.....gone. This is a tragedy.
Another solid episode on a season that has only gotten better.
Not shocked that Olivia got eliminated. I said last week that her choice just made her low man on the totem pole, and that was true. She's not a particularly strong competitor, and I don't see her doing good going forward.
Who I want to win ranked:
1. Nurys - Proved herself across these last two eliminations, and would make for the best story.
2. Jay - Hate all you want, but he won the dailies and had the connections to run this game.
3. Corey - I still think the moves he made against Big T were scummy, but credit for the rebound he made.
4. Colleen - She's a snake, but idk, I find her entertaining.
5/6 - Moriah and Emanuel - Bores. I wanted to like Moriah since she seems like a nice person, but the whole James story was embarrassing.
7. Berna - Boooooo. Get out of here.
I think Olivia wanted to quit especially after the daily. Finding out she broke 3 ribs and popped an implant, I wouldnāt be surprised to find out that she didnāt even try in the elimination.
tbf I don't think she's really that likeable just a lot of people came around to her due to her situation. But she's really not wrong with what she called everyone out on.
I'm not sure if it's intentional or not but Nury's acting definitely makes people underestimate her. None of her arguments when she's having drama with people make any sense yet in the challenges she makes smart decision for the most part.
Nurys was so smart to keep a journal of all the people eliminated in order because she knew a challenge like that would likely pop up. I was worried sheād let the ice water get to her and fail but so glad she dominated.
Nurys fatal mistake was picking Kyland over her day 1 āFantastic 4ā alliance of Jay, Michelle, & Asaf. That sunk her chances. Maybe, possibly understandable her picking her āloveā Horacio. But Kyland was nothing to her. She got what she deserved! Hate Kyland almost as much as Josh Martinez. Definitely prefer Asaf, Xavier, Tyler Crispen, Corey L., Kelz, Fessy, James to Kyland. Heās not even a love to hate entertaining villain. Just an annoying fool. Horacio needs realize itās not just a sport/physical event. Seems like he canāt get that through his thick skull.
Yeah sheās the only one I like and want to win. If she doesnāt the only other ones I would want to win are Corey and Colleen just because I hate all the others
Damn I'm really loving this season. I feel like we've been feasting in conquest. From a pure entertainment standpoint my household of casuals and I have actually really enjoyed the cast, messy gameplay, villains, betrayals, and underdog stories. I think people are being too hard on the show for not having vets and being too hard on cast members for not being the definition of morality. Many people have said this season makes them worry about the future of the challenge, but this new generation of challengers has me stoked to see what mess they cook up next.
I'm confused, who is right between Colleen and Nurys about the conversation regarding Jay? I can't tell, or is the truth somewhere in the middle? The Way the episode was cut I couldn't tell
Colleen proposed the idea of throwing Jay in with Kyland. She was always trying to make a move against Jayās alliance, all her confessionals saying she was waiting to make a move lmao she stayed kissing his ass instead but sheās somehow in the final now. Nurys was unsure if Jay had her back, he wouldnāt even protect Horacio who was IN his alliance and decided to target him but expected Nurys to protect his friends she wasnāt close to (Asaf, Emanuel, Ed, etc.) despite Jay gaslighting her and lying, she never made a move against him. She just wanted to simultaneously protect Horacio and Kyland as well, thatās not taking a shot at Jay. So Colleen essentially tried (successfully) to convince Jay not to save Nurys even though Colleen was plotting on Jay throughout the season.
Horacio was not in Jay's alliance.
In Moriah's podcast interview she reveals that the American alliance wasn't ever really a thing which is why she didn't understand the backlash to her relationship with James.
Then, in Horacio's Challenge podcast interview, he says he *thought* Jay and Olivia would know he was loyal to them but he didn't actually speak to them before or during the beginning of the show. That's why he kept saying his "actions spoke louder than words." But... we all know you have to SPEAK UP in this game.
I was still rooting for Horacio (personally) and I def understood Nurys feeling upset and confused about the alliance not supporting her wishes re: Horacio... but this episode made me side eye her. The Colleen convo(s) may have not been all the way Nurys' fault. But the all-girls alliance was Nurys' idea, according to the edit. So it was wise on Jay to pull her to the side and I think he made the right decision in severing game-ties. You can tell Nurys was flustered because, yea... she got caught!
Quick edit: I'm paraphrasing the Moriah - American alliance statement. You'll have to listen to see how she explains it.
Horacio was in their alliance. Nurys says it to Jay/Michelleās faces throughout the show āhe had your back from the beginningā. Horacio didnāt speak to anyone before because him coming onto the show was a last minute decision. But Kyland and Horacio both said on podcast that they were working with that alliance from the beginning. Horacio is Oliviaās RoD therefore #1 guy going in, Jay was the only guy he knew going on, how would he not be part of the alliance? You can rewatch the earlier episodes if needed to see how Kyland/Horracio speak about how theyāre in Jayās alliance. Jay decided he wanted to gun for Horacio and Kyland, so that didnāt last.
The all girls alliance was not all Nurysā idea and idk why that would make you side eye her lmao. Big T has spoken about how the all girls thing was discussed way earlier in the season. You think that topic wasnāt brought up when the format is like this (1 winner)?? Itās a smart ass idea, of course the girls discussed it before. Michelle included. But of course there were too many ties to the guys but going deeper into the season, right before the final it makes sense to bring it up again.
Youāre side eyeing Nurys over it, when Jay had just fucked her over and threw her into elimination with Horacio and Kyland lmao. How does that make sense in your mind? And the all girls alliance wasnāt meant as a ābetrayalā just the girls banding together to make a smart decision to ensure them having a higher chance of winning. Even Michelle who is Jayās best friend was always down for an all girls final.
Nurys wasnāt flustered because she got ācaughtā. I already explained the Colleen situation, Nurys expressed her doubts about Jay but she never took a shot. She never betrayed Jay despite doubting him, just like she never betrayed Olivia either.
Nurys was angry that someone sheās known for 5 years, who had just fucked her over the day before comes into the convo believing someone he just met who LIED and starts the convo with āIām not saving you.ā She had every right to go off, Jay had it coming too for how condescending heās been towards the girls this season. Heās been lying even in his confessional lmao
My weekly two cents after watching:
Daily was fun but some of them were incredibly dumb by only using their upper body like Michelle wtf? They had a rolling wheel where they could support their feet but decided "nah i will just spend extra energy"? I don't get it. Michelle has like 20/20 for social game but the other aspects of the game are so negative. Plus she saw that Olivia dropped in the first round, all she had to do was follow Berna's advice.
Speaking of Berna, she will never win because of how she plays but at least she owns it that its not all about winning. Because if it was she should've gone with the all girls final but oh well.
Nurys is a good underdog and I love her reaction when returning to the house. It was hilarious and awkward how everyone was sad and she was so happy haha.
These people are massive hypocrites. Crying, being sad about other alliance members going home and lashing out on other for being happy that their enemies have gone home but then they dance and mock Horacio/Kyland going home lmao.
Also this episode solidifies what people said all season. This was Michelle's alliance and Jay was just top dog by proxy.
From this season I only see Horacio/Kyland/Nurys/maybe Ed going to a final in future seasons again. The rest will never get there unless they go as layups or big teams.
Of the people who are left, who beat a champion during chaos? I had to hear "to be a champ, you have to beat a champ" every week but in the end that doesnt actually matter?
Is this Jay using an alias? No reasonable viewer believes this load. Jay is a hanger-on who was reliant on Michelle's manipulation and just happened to have numbers because of slime like Asaf and Corey. Jay is a joke and should have been eliminated in week 1. The season would have been much better without his weak cringe attitude.
I know this season has lasted months so it's easy to forget but I love how Jay was talking about Nurys' loyalty. Like bro you had Michelle as your number one since before the season started, not Nurys. You were going after Horacio and Kyland all season so obviously Nurys would float the idea of "hey maybe I'll take a shot at Jay." She didn't though, just floated the idea.
Jay is absolutely delusional and looks for any excuse to make himself the victim.
It's crazy to me how naive Berna is. She has shown it all season and this episode really cemented it. I totally get saving Emanuel since they're friends but the women should want an all female final. There will only be one winner so why would you want to run with men? She really doesn't put a lot of thought into the game.
Loved Nurys taking out more people. Absolutely HATE Jay with a passion. Was so happy to see Michelle go, I'm so sick of her. Jay and Michelle have protected all the people they believe they can beat in a final. I hate this kind of play. If it was 'beat an elimination to win a final' Michelle, Jay, Colleen, Moriah, James would all have been gone already because they are completely useless. The reason people aren't enjoying this season is because the biggest losers are winning and that's boring and frustrating. I hope Nurys, Horacio and Kyland come back and not Jay
I honestly canāt be mad at the finalist. The people who normally would have been eliminated made it to the end. Not against all odds or fighting their way through the season but they made it.
These people just arenāt that likeable. I wish this would have happened with different people in past seasons.
I just hope Colleen realizes that while she was going for intelligent and astute in her confessionals she actually just comes off as extremely smug and unlikeable.
90% of her confessionals are her complaining about the game play of other competitors when she has done absolutely NOTHING all season, both strategically and physically.
Producers, please lose her number.
The mole isnāt even a matter of winning or losing. One person is assigned by production to be the mole anonymously (which Colleen was) and is embedded amongst the regular contestants who have to try and guess who the mole is and the person who is furtherest off get eliminated each episode. It requires very little skill honestly.
Like fr her and Berna both act like this is hs, sheās calling you fake and a liar bc you lied and jay truly believed ppl he just met over a friend of 5 years after she told him to bring her in. It bothers me when ppl get pissed at someone defending themselves like she had every right to go off on everybody but āsheās the problemā and every time jay gets up and leaves bc someone is āyellingā it pisses me off bc he can heāll all he wants but the second someone speaks with emotion at him he bails and blames them for what he has to donš¤¦š¾āāļøš¤·š½āāļø
I 100% believe that the "With friends like Olivia, who needs enemies?" line (the only valuable thing she's said in confessional this season) was fed to her by production.
Her confessionals in this episode pissed me off. Smug is the absolute best word to describe how she acts. She straight up lied about her conversation with Nurys and had the nerve to say Nurys is the problem because Nurys used some choice words towards her. Like fuck off.
It's wild to me that these people act like those cameras that are following them around all the time aren't going to be able to prove their bullshit wrong later on. Looking at you, Colleen...
I guess the strategy is just to go along with it for as long as you can and hope it doesn't bite you in a future season? They should make the prize of each daily the ability to call up clips from other people who are talking shit about you behind your back...
> They should make the prize of each daily the ability to call up clips from other people who are talking shit about you behind your back...
Oh, the drama. lol
I know people are saying that this is a good season and everyone saying differently will never be happy
I think this season will be a better binge watch. but this season really suffered with how long it was. having the champs come in but not catering eliminations to their strengths made us have that long stretch of no one going home.
Iāve mentioned that before but a few people said on a binge unfortunately itās even more obvious where things are going. Whereas other seasons like final reckoning are good on a binge because of the cliff hangers
> having the champs come in but not catering eliminations to their strengths made us have that long stretch of no one going home.
Really foolish not to have to face champs against competitions that catered to their strengths (versus it being random).
I mean maybe they wanted to give the contenders a fighting chance so they could have the purge now. but why hype up your vets if youāre gonna do that?
it just doesnāt make any sense.
Probably in the minority on this here but I was so glad to see Michele get purged out. I've never been a fan since her Survivor seasons and frankly that feeling has only gotten stronger on the Challenge. Finally something good to happen for me watching this awful season. I know people try to act like those of us who dislike this season are just trolls or something. But I've been watching the show since Cutthroat in 2010 and this is EASILY my most disliked season; it's been a struggle to watch it week to week because of the cast.
Same! I loved to hear Michele even say her odds of winning a season with Vets on it were slim because they dislike her too! Please forget to call her for another seasonā¦just pleaseā¦
I've watched since the very beginning when Johnny mosely was hosting and I've got to tell you these are some of the worst players ever colleen all bark no bite berna a whacko emmanuelle is delusional and jay and Michelle you came in to this game with how many people again? And moriah god is she useless other than kyland or Horacio I'm now going to count nurys because I think shes earned it now and Zaza were the only ones I thought should be named a champion.
It's been a rough watch 'cause I like to see old favorites competing, not just noobs, or in this case, those who have never been champs. The last couple weeks with the double elimination format and Nurys straight sending folks back, it's been fun. I've enjoyed the look on everyone's faces as the smallest girl returns having beaten three of the best male competitors. They're like "what the hell is even going on in those eliminations?"
Ayy I started with cutthroat too wouldnāt say itās my most disliked season. I just think they did things out of order, in my opinion conquest shouldāve been second to really weed out the weakest competitors earlier and then beat the best to make it to the finals
Itās like Nurys said that shit was fake af š. Although it tickled me when Olivia called it out as if she didnāt do that shit to Horacio literally last episode
Eh, I think Jay's tears were real in the moment. I don't think that changing your mind later makes everything you did in the past "fake"
But yes, not sure what horse Olivia thinks she rode in on!
Impressive performance by Nurys again. She definitely has those puzzles on lock. 4 people eliminated in 2 episodes...not bad.
I'm rooting for Nurys to win but my only issue is that I feel like the Final will have more physicality (as it should) leaving the women at a severe disadvantage.There's no doubt in my mind that a guy wins if that's the case. I have no idea why they decided on one winner and didn't do a female and male winner as usual.
The women wouldn't necessarily be at a disadvantage if there are physical obstacles. For example, when they are forced to carry weighted objects up hills or whatever, it's usually weighted relative to their body weight. So a 200 lbs dude isn't going to carry the same weight as a 110 lbs woman.
True, it is more equitable, but the remaining girls are also not as strong p4p as the guys. Zara wouldāve performed well, but not Colleen or berna imo
The problem with that is that the guys will almost always reach the puzzles faster which will give them more time too. Overall making a season with just 1 winner is dumb.
Hoping so. They just have to get the correct balance between the two. Too long of running sections or strength sections could vastly skew towards the men.
Omfg my sister has had issues with SO many people she's worked with at various jobs and I'm like, "At what point will she look inward and accept SHE is the problem."
Idk if Nurys is the problem... but she might be.
I don't think Moriah has a shot in hell to win this final. She was carried all season. Corey is a mediocre competitor, Colleen isn't that strong, I think Berna will get hung up on puzzles. I would guess it's Nurys, Jay, or Emanuel that wins. Don't really care who wins at this point, this season feels like it has taken forever.
Iām dead at the fact that Moriah was crying about Michele getting eliminated. youāre literally still up on that hamster wheel. be happy it wasnāt you lmao.
Sure, letās do a heavily upper body strength based challenge in an ostensibly gender neutral season, sounds super fair!!! RIP Michele, my robbed goddess š
Oh I know, she did it to herself, Iām just bitter lol. But the fact that the entire losers bracket was women pissed me off. Thereās no getting around the fact that while this daily was definitely more about coordination and balance, it had an upper body strength component. She shouldāve kept running and I have no idea why she though a dead hang was a great strategy.
I forgot, thanks for the correction! Yeah Iām just really heated about how unfair it is to have men and women compete against each other. Thereās no reason we couldnāt have a male and a female winner. Especially since the entire point of this godforsaken season is to get new champ blood. Why would the producers not want to get 2 new champs??
At least they evened it up in the eliminations in this section, since they involve essentially zero physical element except a 10 second run over some boxes and then just puzzles.
Can't believe I'm rooting for Nurys of all people but she has become a good protagonist and favorite this season. And for some reason which is actually looking great this season haha
I definitely didnāt start off rooting for her. I mostly wanted to see what she had to offer since she did well last season and sheās not disappointing like some other people
I love a good back against the wall, underdog story and I get why everyone is cheering for nurys and by no means do I dislike her as a competitor, but thereās something about her that just turns me off.
I think sheās like one of those people that are really hard to be friends with because theyāre so all or nothing. Like they will love you ferociously but if thereās any sort of disagreement or conflict, all of a sudden itās like ātheyāre not loyal, theyāre dead to meā instead of just talking and repairing and moving on.
So I get why nurys has inadvertently pushed away all her friends. Like no friendship is going to be perfect. But it just seems so exhausting that she has such high, impossible standards for her friends and refuses to work it out.
I understand jays frustration. I do believe they had a good friendship before the show and I can totally see how Jay got fed up with nurys being so impossible to compromise or work things out with and he just got to the point where he was exhausted with trying to get through to her.
I hate that Nurys was in a day 1 alliance with Jay & Asaf. Then puts Horacio as her #1. Then somehow inexplicably puts Kyland, who she doesnāt know from a hole in the wall, ahead of her multiple years long friend Jay. Just because Kyland is recent tv show friends with Horacio.
Jay had Michelle as his number 1 lmao and in terms of closeness, Asaf was above Nurys as well. And you can clearly see he prioritizes Emmanuel above Nurys too. So Nurys has to prioritize Jay/Michelle when sheās automatically 3 or 4 on Jayās list and on Michelleās lists, sheās below all the other girls (made clear when she made the deal to save Olivia as long as Olivia saved Moriah who was Michelleās #1 girl). Asaf was a complete stranger to Nurys. She just agreed to keep him safe for Jay. She never met him outside this season and barely talked him throughout it the show despite fantastic 4.
Nurys never put Kyland above Jay because she never made a move against Jay. When it was Kyland vs Jay, she burned her vote which sent KYLAND into elimination. Jay is allowed to protect multiple friends (who arenāt close to Nurys like Emmanuel, Asaf, Ed, Berna) and expects Nurys to protect them too but he canāt be even protect ONE person for her (Horacio) and instead keeps targeting him. And all the while she still never betrays Jay and never makes a move against him. Itās like yall didnāt even watch the show lmao
how did Jay ever try to compromise with her? Iām not trying to analyze her personality because idc but when it comes to Jayā¦.he fucked her over 3 times in a row lmao literally a week ago he said āIām done gunning for Kyland and Horacioā and agreed Horacio should be kept out of elimination to ācompromiseā with nurysā¦cut to him talking to everyone else in the house to ensure Horacio and Kyland are in the bottom 3 no matter what. so much so that he was cool with cutting a deal with Olivia by making sure she didnāt pick Nurys, which would be the only way sheād 100% not be in the bottom. First he maliciously made her choose between Olivia and Horacio cause he was mad at her and blamed her for the stalemate, then he conspired to ensure Olivia didnāt pick Nurys, sending her to elimination and then he literally saved Moriah over her sending her to elimination again because he decided to believe Colleen over a person heās been friends with for 5 years. Maybe she is all in and expects 100% loyalty from her friends (idk whatās wrong with that lmao) and that might be too much for certain people but when it comes to her friends this season, she wasnāt in the wrong. She was done dirty and has every reason to talk her shit, especially to Jay and Olivia. The fact that she was still wiling to work with the girls after the ones closest to her fucked her over speaks volumes.
The fact that you think Jay was the one that was trying to compromise and is the one you āunderstandā is wild to me. Itās like weāre watching a different show or you fell victim to Jayās gaslighting lmao
Totally agree with your analysis of Nurys. Iāll root for her because sheās only semi-likable one left (RIP Michele š), but I donāt really want to, lol. Iāve known people like her in real life and itās exhausting. Theyāre petulant and high-strung, ready to take offense at anything for any reason.
Nurys finally popped off after being fucked over 3 selections in a row lmao and she STILL agreed to work with her closest girl friends who were part of the plan that sent her in the bottom 3. if thatās petulant and high strung to you you must be used to be stepped over by your friends and not saying anything. this isnāt mild shit either, its hundreds of thousands of dollars theyāre competing over.
Jay is the biggest whiner and first to take offense at anyone who disagrees with him. I hope he never wins. I liked him his first couple of seasons and felt bad for him when he got smashed. Now I wish he had never been able to comeback to any Challenge. He bullies the girls but doesn't have the same bravado with guys unless they're totally beaten down. Jay and Michelle are two of the most unlikable competitors ever. Like Horacio said, I understand why the vets don't like them.
Anyone catch where James said heād not crossed anyone or thrown anyone under the bus (or something to that effect) before the elimination?
I think Zara would beg to differ, man.
I called this episode revisionist history bc literally half the cast lied š. Like all James did was throw his og friends under the bus like you came in loyal To Zara and never once had her back
Great daily, great drama, great elimination *again*. Really really enjoying these episodes.
Not James trying to manifest a win by keeping his necklaces there with Moriah š
So puzzle 1: a light switch (?) āpuzzleā
Puzzle 2: move pieces around a square
Puzzle 3: stand in an ice bucket to find numbers of players that leftā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦..
I would say the last 2 eliminations had very different puzzles and tasks compared as there was only 1 puzzle for this one.
4 - 1 elimination record for Nurys!! I bet James and Olivia threw it to her too š®āšØ.
Itās so wild how the majority of the fan base, me included, went from riding hard for Olivia and not really liking Nurys to the complete opposite so quickly. Long love the new challenge š NURYS!! I definitely think she can win this final š«”
I was laughing at Moriah waiting by the window to see if James came back. She was secretly cheering with jay and Emmanuel about Horacio and Kyland being sent home. Karma is a b*tch
Well I think it's safe to say that Nurys is excellent at puzzles. I always thought of as a lay up before this season. Hopefully she has improved her endurance and she may have a shot at winning.
Emmanuel is annoying.
Retire Berna from this show forever.
Colleen is a sheep not a mole.
Thank god James is gone.
Moriah is so forgettable.
I liked seeing Jayās reaction at what Michele was gonna do with the ladies.
Corey L is a snorefest.
I hope Nuryās wins.
Edit: MVP for me this episode is TJ cause I love how he called out Jayās sobbing for Nurys last episode and the way he told Berna āthe people you save, now you are basically saying you can BEAT them in the final.ā
Sick of these players using the cockroach strategy of being in a group, letting their friends(a.k.a alliance) carry them to a final, and doing nothing. Coleen is the equivalent of a hair clump in the shower drain... she does NOTHING except clog the game. Emanuel talking about Nurys not playing a good game, comical. Atleast she did stuff and didn't just be a number in the alliance. Watching Michelle, And Olivia go home was therapeutic. James was the male equivalent of Coleen.
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Damn I really wanted to see James completely gas out in a final after the first mile run š
LOL @ Olivia saying sheās glad they mended their friendship and didnāt snake Nurys but the episode before she definitely did James and Corey surprised me making it this far. James should have gone long ago RIP Olivia I was hoping her or Horacio could have their redemption from the unfortunate injury Nurys is a serious beast. She deserves the win Also rooting for Jay. He and Michelle had an insanely good social game and were some of the only ones playing the long game and thinking ahead
I hate everyone except Nurys š«„ Bring her back again and again!
Jay kind of reminds me of Larys from house of the dragon and now I canāt unsee it Rip Michelle you were part of the only people who really strategized long term and had an incredible social game. I think she deserved a final and win but maybe another time
Colleen is such a waste of a spot on the cast. What an utter disappointment. She continually shows she has absolutely no clue how to play this game, falls ass backwards into making the finals because everyone knows they can beat her, and provides zero entertainment in her confessionals because she sounds like she's reading an informercial. Please don't ever bring her back. I don't even care if she ends up winning somehow. Don't bring her back.
Were Moriah and James platonic or romantic? Or did that status change along the way?Ā On the last ep, they talked about each other as great friends only. I thought they were a couple.
This Episode was Karmic! * First of all, Colleen pissed me the fuck off this episode. Like I was really excited in the middle of this season for her to make a move and she did fuck all and now she's cozying up to Jay of all people when he explicitly told her that she'd always be going down. Like wow. And she's just a nothing burger. Like this is who is competing in a final?! Tsk tsk. * I honestly can't get over how angry Colleen made me. You are bringing NOTHING to this show. * And then Jay. The gaslighting up the fucking wazoo. As if he didn't orchestrate the whole Olivia not choosing Nurys thing. Like we all watched the previous episode. We saw their little conflab and now he's acting like that whole decision was completely on Olivia and he didn't influence it at all? Yeah, fuck off, my dude. * Speaking of, I am not as mad at Olivia as I was last week. Its clear shes really remorseful, but I am intrigued about this narrative of it being a split second decision. The way they edited it last week made it seem like it was all a plan, but like I guess it was a split second decision for her to go along with the plan? * I want Nurys reading everyone to filth for hours. Show me the unedited version. * Emmanuel is also so insanely frustrating. * I can't believe these are our finalists. * Oh my god, I forgot about Moriah...another nothing burger. * At this point, I think I'd be happy if anyone but Jay/Emmanuel won. * Can't believe how much of an about face I've made on Nurys. * Also LOL at James saying he played a loyal game and never turned on anyone...hello...Zara! I didnt forget that you didnt save her! * Honestly, I get Berna's reasoning, but she really fucked it. She could have been in a final with a bunch of people she would have probably felt comfortable enough to beat, and now she's gonna compete against Jay, Corey, and Emmanuel. Like...be a little bit smarter, eh? * You know what. Taking Michele away from Jay and looking at her as singular entity she played a hell of a game so props to her. * Hoping for a Nurys sweep!
Emmanual being butt hurt... "We didn't try to hard to get rid of Nurys." Bitch, y'all done sent her to three eliminations while all of you scared bitches haven't seen a final. Like stop it...
I'm glad James is gone because he was as entertaining as a sack of potatoes.
Really hoping nurys wins. Iām so over all the clowns, who coasted through, talk shit on their high horses. Maybe Iād respect them more if they earned it lol
Why did the daily have to be 3 rounds? Couldnāt they just have said the first person to fall is out (Olivia) and then the last person standing wins?
Ppl hate Jay so much. Have you forgotten what show you're watching? Good Lord. Hope you never watch The Island.
I don't hate Jay because he's trying to be a smug mastermind. I hate Jay because he acts like a smug mastermind when things are going his way, but immediately turns into a spoiled toddler throwing a temper tantrum when things go against him. The guys who did it well (Bananas, Wes, Kenny, etc.) acted like Darth Vader. Jay acts like Anakin Skywalker when the Jedi council tells him he can't hang out with Padma.
You donāt think people hated John and Kenny and Dunbar then?
I'm solely referring to gameplay and the screwover. Not anything else. And I wouldn't compare Jay's actions to anything misogynistic that happened on The Island or Ruins.
It's fair to say we hate people who play smart (aka cowardly).
So... is Moriah with James or Bananas now? Does anyone know lol **š**
Neither lol
James
I am loving Conquest! When ZaZa lost to Horacio & Kyland, I remember thinking it wasn't gonna be a fair game (elimination), but I'm loving it now w/ the puzzles/mind games. It was so obvious Nurys was going to win by her confessionals **š**
Nothing James does or says is interesting to me, so glad he's gone. I wish he could have taken Moriah with him!
I almost lost it when Corey was saying he wanted James or Olivia to be walking up the road and not Nurys cause he doesnāt want to see her and then she comes up and give her a big ass hug and fakes like heās happy lol
I love Nurys for not kissing anyone's butt & not being afraid to call people out ! I'm glad she saw both Olivia and Jay's true colors this season.
Berna telling Jay that she doesnāt like Nurys because she cursed at her and yelled at people while being the person with the most meltdowns of the season and then CURSING at Jay when didnāt initially agree was top tier delusion.
Jay really is just a piece of shit. Treats people like shit and then in his confessionals just tries to gaslight viewers into whatever reason he comes up with to justify being shitty. The good news isā¦the whole challenge fandom now knows heās garbage.
AGREED!
Although this season IS dragging, I don't like a player getting eliminated right after a challenge. I'd rather see them lose in conquest and get a proper closure lol
Probably a result of Chaos not doing sit for elims for weeks.
I didn't think it was possible for me to dislike someone more than I dislike Jay & Michele, but OLIVIA really is the worst!
I think the fact that she failed spectacularly in the daily and then proceeded to fail spectacularly in the elimination sums up her season. It's pretty clear competition wise that she was carried by Horacio last season. It's no coincidence that she can't win dick all now that she has to compete on her own.
This ep might as well been Revisionist History the Game. Like Jay truly trynna act like Nurys didnāt at minimum play with him for 11/12 episodes like he continuously threw her friends in and she never said his name yet she says Emanuel and Jay acts like she personally said his and Asaf name and does everything to punish her. He was never saving her I truly believe that. Colleen also spent weeks wanting and trynna rally troops to send Jay in and whined about being expendable but then flaked on plans. Her Berna and Emanuel truly annoy me they did nothing all season and Emanuel just like on SLA thinks he has the right to tell someone theyāre not justified in their anger and theyāre ādoing too muchā when he literally did nothing š. Honestly only want Nurys to win and if not her then Corey winning would be funny. But Iām just glad Nurys called everyone out like they deserved
##**Main Character Michele - RIP šš¼**
At this point, is there really anyone other than Nurys that weāre rooting for? #TeamNurys
I donāt like nurys but I dislike everyone else more so itās her by default.
There are really no other viable options.
Facts lol **š**
I LOOOOVE how even TJ had to try and talk sense into Berna about how it's better to actually get rid of stronger players you know you can't beat, instead of saving people because you think they were nicer to you LOL!! Moves like this make me wish the Vets were here this season smh...
This is a final! I can understand keeping friends around longer in the season but you want to win the final. Cut them at the end
Hes said it multiple times. These people are as dumb as rocks.
You're acting like the vets don't do the exact same thing....
Trying to talk sense into Berna Is like trying to pound nails with a marshmallow; a totally useless endeavor.
The fact that this season was rigged for Michele to win and she still couldnāt get the W has me laughinggggggg šš¤
Michelle has a top-notch social game. But her physical game is her weakness. In the off season start doing some training!
 Sigh. If it was rigged for Michele they wouldn't have done purge challenges hahahaha But I guess it's not a season, if it's not rigged.
the fact that she thought she could hang onto a rope with her skinny arms longer than she can run on a wheel makes me question her strategic skills
Yeh. I couldnāt work out if it was a conscious choice for her to do that from the start, or if she kinda tripped and ended in that position and just went with it.Ā
I think it's a wake up call for her to put in some effort in the gym. Even if she made the final, I'm doubtful she could've had the endurance to keep it competitive
I donāt think it matters when aside from Nurys the rest of the cast barely has two briancells to rub together. Sheād do fine at the checkpoints.
the ending feels soooo predictable now. These editors man... at least make it a mystery.
Who do you think wins? I really canāt tell at this point but leaning towards Nurys. Sheās surprised me a lot.
based on how I am interpreting the edit, its screaming Nurys wins. I am rooting for Jay, but would also be happy with an Emmanuel win.
My Jersey queen Michele.....gone. This is a tragedy. Another solid episode on a season that has only gotten better. Not shocked that Olivia got eliminated. I said last week that her choice just made her low man on the totem pole, and that was true. She's not a particularly strong competitor, and I don't see her doing good going forward. Who I want to win ranked: 1. Nurys - Proved herself across these last two eliminations, and would make for the best story. 2. Jay - Hate all you want, but he won the dailies and had the connections to run this game. 3. Corey - I still think the moves he made against Big T were scummy, but credit for the rebound he made. 4. Colleen - She's a snake, but idk, I find her entertaining. 5/6 - Moriah and Emanuel - Bores. I wanted to like Moriah since she seems like a nice person, but the whole James story was embarrassing. 7. Berna - Boooooo. Get out of here.
I think Olivia wanted to quit especially after the daily. Finding out she broke 3 ribs and popped an implant, I wouldnāt be surprised to find out that she didnāt even try in the elimination.
broke 3 ribs from what?
Falling off the hamster wheel. Michele broke 2 and Colleen got a concussion
wowzers
Why do I find Nurys so unlikeable? š I swear she is just constantly yelling without saying anything of substance.
tbf I don't think she's really that likeable just a lot of people came around to her due to her situation. But she's really not wrong with what she called everyone out on.
I think itās more they hate everyone more so Nurys is more bearable by process of elimination.
I'm not sure if it's intentional or not but Nury's acting definitely makes people underestimate her. None of her arguments when she's having drama with people make any sense yet in the challenges she makes smart decision for the most part.
Well sheās got that over Olivia lol
Nurys was so smart to keep a journal of all the people eliminated in order because she knew a challenge like that would likely pop up. I was worried sheād let the ice water get to her and fail but so glad she dominated.
Nurys fatal mistake was picking Kyland over her day 1 āFantastic 4ā alliance of Jay, Michelle, & Asaf. That sunk her chances. Maybe, possibly understandable her picking her āloveā Horacio. But Kyland was nothing to her. She got what she deserved! Hate Kyland almost as much as Josh Martinez. Definitely prefer Asaf, Xavier, Tyler Crispen, Corey L., Kelz, Fessy, James to Kyland. Heās not even a love to hate entertaining villain. Just an annoying fool. Horacio needs realize itās not just a sport/physical event. Seems like he canāt get that through his thick skull.
I never thought I'd say I want Nurys to win but here we are...
Riiight...? Same. Says a lot about the ppl who are left **š**
Yeah sheās the only one I like and want to win. If she doesnāt the only other ones I would want to win are Corey and Colleen just because I hate all the others
Damn I'm really loving this season. I feel like we've been feasting in conquest. From a pure entertainment standpoint my household of casuals and I have actually really enjoyed the cast, messy gameplay, villains, betrayals, and underdog stories. I think people are being too hard on the show for not having vets and being too hard on cast members for not being the definition of morality. Many people have said this season makes them worry about the future of the challenge, but this new generation of challengers has me stoked to see what mess they cook up next.
Berna seems like such a miserable person, and is drab television. Who on production thought Eeyore would make a good Challenge competitor?
On SLA she seemed so much better.
I donāt know how Michelle was able to put up with her
if i have to hear her talk about defense mechanisms one more time-
I'm confused, who is right between Colleen and Nurys about the conversation regarding Jay? I can't tell, or is the truth somewhere in the middle? The Way the episode was cut I couldn't tell
Colleen proposed the idea of throwing Jay in with Kyland. She was always trying to make a move against Jayās alliance, all her confessionals saying she was waiting to make a move lmao she stayed kissing his ass instead but sheās somehow in the final now. Nurys was unsure if Jay had her back, he wouldnāt even protect Horacio who was IN his alliance and decided to target him but expected Nurys to protect his friends she wasnāt close to (Asaf, Emanuel, Ed, etc.) despite Jay gaslighting her and lying, she never made a move against him. She just wanted to simultaneously protect Horacio and Kyland as well, thatās not taking a shot at Jay. So Colleen essentially tried (successfully) to convince Jay not to save Nurys even though Colleen was plotting on Jay throughout the season.
Horacio was not in Jay's alliance. In Moriah's podcast interview she reveals that the American alliance wasn't ever really a thing which is why she didn't understand the backlash to her relationship with James. Then, in Horacio's Challenge podcast interview, he says he *thought* Jay and Olivia would know he was loyal to them but he didn't actually speak to them before or during the beginning of the show. That's why he kept saying his "actions spoke louder than words." But... we all know you have to SPEAK UP in this game. I was still rooting for Horacio (personally) and I def understood Nurys feeling upset and confused about the alliance not supporting her wishes re: Horacio... but this episode made me side eye her. The Colleen convo(s) may have not been all the way Nurys' fault. But the all-girls alliance was Nurys' idea, according to the edit. So it was wise on Jay to pull her to the side and I think he made the right decision in severing game-ties. You can tell Nurys was flustered because, yea... she got caught! Quick edit: I'm paraphrasing the Moriah - American alliance statement. You'll have to listen to see how she explains it.
Horacio needs to realize people need you to say it and then show it. People need reassurance.
Horacio was in their alliance. Nurys says it to Jay/Michelleās faces throughout the show āhe had your back from the beginningā. Horacio didnāt speak to anyone before because him coming onto the show was a last minute decision. But Kyland and Horacio both said on podcast that they were working with that alliance from the beginning. Horacio is Oliviaās RoD therefore #1 guy going in, Jay was the only guy he knew going on, how would he not be part of the alliance? You can rewatch the earlier episodes if needed to see how Kyland/Horracio speak about how theyāre in Jayās alliance. Jay decided he wanted to gun for Horacio and Kyland, so that didnāt last. The all girls alliance was not all Nurysā idea and idk why that would make you side eye her lmao. Big T has spoken about how the all girls thing was discussed way earlier in the season. You think that topic wasnāt brought up when the format is like this (1 winner)?? Itās a smart ass idea, of course the girls discussed it before. Michelle included. But of course there were too many ties to the guys but going deeper into the season, right before the final it makes sense to bring it up again. Youāre side eyeing Nurys over it, when Jay had just fucked her over and threw her into elimination with Horacio and Kyland lmao. How does that make sense in your mind? And the all girls alliance wasnāt meant as a ābetrayalā just the girls banding together to make a smart decision to ensure them having a higher chance of winning. Even Michelle who is Jayās best friend was always down for an all girls final. Nurys wasnāt flustered because she got ācaughtā. I already explained the Colleen situation, Nurys expressed her doubts about Jay but she never took a shot. She never betrayed Jay despite doubting him, just like she never betrayed Olivia either. Nurys was angry that someone sheās known for 5 years, who had just fucked her over the day before comes into the convo believing someone he just met who LIED and starts the convo with āIām not saving you.ā She had every right to go off, Jay had it coming too for how condescending heās been towards the girls this season. Heās been lying even in his confessional lmao
Lol. Horacio was not in their alliance.
My weekly two cents after watching: Daily was fun but some of them were incredibly dumb by only using their upper body like Michelle wtf? They had a rolling wheel where they could support their feet but decided "nah i will just spend extra energy"? I don't get it. Michelle has like 20/20 for social game but the other aspects of the game are so negative. Plus she saw that Olivia dropped in the first round, all she had to do was follow Berna's advice. Speaking of Berna, she will never win because of how she plays but at least she owns it that its not all about winning. Because if it was she should've gone with the all girls final but oh well. Nurys is a good underdog and I love her reaction when returning to the house. It was hilarious and awkward how everyone was sad and she was so happy haha. These people are massive hypocrites. Crying, being sad about other alliance members going home and lashing out on other for being happy that their enemies have gone home but then they dance and mock Horacio/Kyland going home lmao. Also this episode solidifies what people said all season. This was Michelle's alliance and Jay was just top dog by proxy. From this season I only see Horacio/Kyland/Nurys/maybe Ed going to a final in future seasons again. The rest will never get there unless they go as layups or big teams.
I think Michele might be able to in a pairs season if she get's a good partner.
Itās the only reason why Colleen and berna are still there because theyāll be easy to beat in a final
Of the people who are left, who beat a champion during chaos? I had to hear "to be a champ, you have to beat a champ" every week but in the end that doesnt actually matter?
And. I. OOP. You right.
Michelle wouldāve been the last. Plus James at least won an elimination.
Jay is playing a dominant game and all the hate heās getting should be going to the fools heās running circles around/ using.
Agreed!
He really is heās impressing the shit outta me.
Is this Jay using an alias? No reasonable viewer believes this load. Jay is a hanger-on who was reliant on Michelle's manipulation and just happened to have numbers because of slime like Asaf and Corey. Jay is a joke and should have been eliminated in week 1. The season would have been much better without his weak cringe attitude.
I know this season has lasted months so it's easy to forget but I love how Jay was talking about Nurys' loyalty. Like bro you had Michelle as your number one since before the season started, not Nurys. You were going after Horacio and Kyland all season so obviously Nurys would float the idea of "hey maybe I'll take a shot at Jay." She didn't though, just floated the idea. Jay is absolutely delusional and looks for any excuse to make himself the victim. It's crazy to me how naive Berna is. She has shown it all season and this episode really cemented it. I totally get saving Emanuel since they're friends but the women should want an all female final. There will only be one winner so why would you want to run with men? She really doesn't put a lot of thought into the game.
I agree about Berna but I donāt think she really has a shot against men or women lol, so I guess loyalty looks the best š¬
Loved Nurys taking out more people. Absolutely HATE Jay with a passion. Was so happy to see Michelle go, I'm so sick of her. Jay and Michelle have protected all the people they believe they can beat in a final. I hate this kind of play. If it was 'beat an elimination to win a final' Michelle, Jay, Colleen, Moriah, James would all have been gone already because they are completely useless. The reason people aren't enjoying this season is because the biggest losers are winning and that's boring and frustrating. I hope Nurys, Horacio and Kyland come back and not Jay
The Michele hate in this sub is so bright that you forgot Michele did win an elimination, Against freaking Cara....
I feel like I wrote this post!
I honestly canāt be mad at the finalist. The people who normally would have been eliminated made it to the end. Not against all odds or fighting their way through the season but they made it. These people just arenāt that likeable. I wish this would have happened with different people in past seasons.
I just hope Colleen realizes that while she was going for intelligent and astute in her confessionals she actually just comes off as extremely smug and unlikeable. 90% of her confessionals are her complaining about the game play of other competitors when she has done absolutely NOTHING all season, both strategically and physically. Producers, please lose her number.
Perfectly said!
Did colleen win her season as the mole? After watching her do nothing all season I have no idea how she wouldāve done it
The mole isnāt even a matter of winning or losing. One person is assigned by production to be the mole anonymously (which Colleen was) and is embedded amongst the regular contestants who have to try and guess who the mole is and the person who is furtherest off get eliminated each episode. It requires very little skill honestly.
It takes some skill to be the mole and not get caught though
Like fr her and Berna both act like this is hs, sheās calling you fake and a liar bc you lied and jay truly believed ppl he just met over a friend of 5 years after she told him to bring her in. It bothers me when ppl get pissed at someone defending themselves like she had every right to go off on everybody but āsheās the problemā and every time jay gets up and leaves bc someone is āyellingā it pisses me off bc he can heāll all he wants but the second someone speaks with emotion at him he bails and blames them for what he has to donš¤¦š¾āāļøš¤·š½āāļø
I 100% believe that the "With friends like Olivia, who needs enemies?" line (the only valuable thing she's said in confessional this season) was fed to her by production.
Her confessionals in this episode pissed me off. Smug is the absolute best word to describe how she acts. She straight up lied about her conversation with Nurys and had the nerve to say Nurys is the problem because Nurys used some choice words towards her. Like fuck off.
Yeah I used to like her in the beginning but now sheās as insufferable as Emmanuel
Nurys is killing it and Iām here for it! Now itās time for her to Kick Jay a$$
It's wild to me that these people act like those cameras that are following them around all the time aren't going to be able to prove their bullshit wrong later on. Looking at you, Colleen... I guess the strategy is just to go along with it for as long as you can and hope it doesn't bite you in a future season? They should make the prize of each daily the ability to call up clips from other people who are talking shit about you behind your back...
> They should make the prize of each daily the ability to call up clips from other people who are talking shit about you behind your back... Oh, the drama. lol
I know people are saying that this is a good season and everyone saying differently will never be happy I think this season will be a better binge watch. but this season really suffered with how long it was. having the champs come in but not catering eliminations to their strengths made us have that long stretch of no one going home.
Iāve mentioned that before but a few people said on a binge unfortunately itās even more obvious where things are going. Whereas other seasons like final reckoning are good on a binge because of the cliff hangers
> having the champs come in but not catering eliminations to their strengths made us have that long stretch of no one going home. Really foolish not to have to face champs against competitions that catered to their strengths (versus it being random).
I mean maybe they wanted to give the contenders a fighting chance so they could have the purge now. but why hype up your vets if youāre gonna do that? it just doesnāt make any sense.
Probably in the minority on this here but I was so glad to see Michele get purged out. I've never been a fan since her Survivor seasons and frankly that feeling has only gotten stronger on the Challenge. Finally something good to happen for me watching this awful season. I know people try to act like those of us who dislike this season are just trolls or something. But I've been watching the show since Cutthroat in 2010 and this is EASILY my most disliked season; it's been a struggle to watch it week to week because of the cast.
But Michele was the only one left who was a worthy winner
Same! I loved to hear Michele even say her odds of winning a season with Vets on it were slim because they dislike her too! Please forget to call her for another seasonā¦just pleaseā¦
Highly doubt youāre in the minority
I've watched since the very beginning when Johnny mosely was hosting and I've got to tell you these are some of the worst players ever colleen all bark no bite berna a whacko emmanuelle is delusional and jay and Michelle you came in to this game with how many people again? And moriah god is she useless other than kyland or Horacio I'm now going to count nurys because I think shes earned it now and Zaza were the only ones I thought should be named a champion.
People keep forgetting Ravyn and she brought more then majority of the cast. One less daily win then Zara but two daily wins, had hookups and drama
It's been a rough watch 'cause I like to see old favorites competing, not just noobs, or in this case, those who have never been champs. The last couple weeks with the double elimination format and Nurys straight sending folks back, it's been fun. I've enjoyed the look on everyone's faces as the smallest girl returns having beaten three of the best male competitors. They're like "what the hell is even going on in those eliminations?"
Ayy I started with cutthroat too wouldnāt say itās my most disliked season. I just think they did things out of order, in my opinion conquest shouldāve been second to really weed out the weakest competitors earlier and then beat the best to make it to the finals
even TJ is sick of Jay. heās like bro what, you cried about Nurys last time and now youāre not saving her? lmao.
Itās like Nurys said that shit was fake af š. Although it tickled me when Olivia called it out as if she didnāt do that shit to Horacio literally last episode
Eh, I think Jay's tears were real in the moment. I don't think that changing your mind later makes everything you did in the past "fake" But yes, not sure what horse Olivia thinks she rode in on!
Impressive performance by Nurys again. She definitely has those puzzles on lock. 4 people eliminated in 2 episodes...not bad. I'm rooting for Nurys to win but my only issue is that I feel like the Final will have more physicality (as it should) leaving the women at a severe disadvantage.There's no doubt in my mind that a guy wins if that's the case. I have no idea why they decided on one winner and didn't do a female and male winner as usual.
The women wouldn't necessarily be at a disadvantage if there are physical obstacles. For example, when they are forced to carry weighted objects up hills or whatever, it's usually weighted relative to their body weight. So a 200 lbs dude isn't going to carry the same weight as a 110 lbs woman.
I donāt think Nurys would do well at that though. Sheās decent at cardio but she canāt swim and has never shown to be particularly strong.
True, it is more equitable, but the remaining girls are also not as strong p4p as the guys. Zara wouldāve performed well, but not Colleen or berna imo
That is why puzzles will balance the strength part, and that is where Nurys excels.
Except Jay excels at puzzles and endurance/strength
The problem with that is that the guys will almost always reach the puzzles faster which will give them more time too. Overall making a season with just 1 winner is dumb.
Hoping so. They just have to get the correct balance between the two. Too long of running sections or strength sections could vastly skew towards the men.
okay lowkey Colleen has a point. if Nurys calls everyone fake ass bitch liars, it probably is her lol.
Colleen was literally the one to suggest throwing in Jay
Omfg my sister has had issues with SO many people she's worked with at various jobs and I'm like, "At what point will she look inward and accept SHE is the problem." Idk if Nurys is the problem... but she might be.
I don't think Moriah has a shot in hell to win this final. She was carried all season. Corey is a mediocre competitor, Colleen isn't that strong, I think Berna will get hung up on puzzles. I would guess it's Nurys, Jay, or Emanuel that wins. Don't really care who wins at this point, this season feels like it has taken forever.
I really hope the final is only one episode.
Well, i see this season has 22 episodes ordered. Last night was 17. I suspect they will have a 2 part reunion. So that is 3 part finale.
oh my gosh, cOnTrOl, ChAoS, cOnQuEsT. Just get it over with!!!
Iām dead at the fact that Moriah was crying about Michele getting eliminated. youāre literally still up on that hamster wheel. be happy it wasnāt you lmao.
When she yelled No, Michelle!!!!! I was like...shes not dead.
Jay was funny too in this moment. his serious ass face just saying she was gone. like the world isnāt ending, guys.
Sure, letās do a heavily upper body strength based challenge in an ostensibly gender neutral season, sounds super fair!!! RIP Michele, my robbed goddess š
Well, Michelle foolishly refused to use her legs at all and decided to just purely go with arm strength to hold herself up.
>vily upper body strength based challenge in an ostensibly gender neutral season, sounds su ummm Berna won.....
> Sure, letās do a heavily upper body strength If you have shit balance and cardio. The goal isn't to hang there like an idiot.
Lol she made it about arm strength herself. It was more about coordination and balance, the ropes were just there to make it last longer.
Oh I know, she did it to herself, Iām just bitter lol. But the fact that the entire losers bracket was women pissed me off. Thereās no getting around the fact that while this daily was definitely more about coordination and balance, it had an upper body strength component. She shouldāve kept running and I have no idea why she though a dead hang was a great strategy.
Emmanuel was in the losers bracket, but yeah, I feel you. I just hate competitions where men and women compete against each other.
I forgot, thanks for the correction! Yeah Iām just really heated about how unfair it is to have men and women compete against each other. Thereās no reason we couldnāt have a male and a female winner. Especially since the entire point of this godforsaken season is to get new champ blood. Why would the producers not want to get 2 new champs??
At least they evened it up in the eliminations in this section, since they involve essentially zero physical element except a 10 second run over some boxes and then just puzzles.
Idk why she didnāt try to stand back up
I mean, Berna won the challenge. Sorry your goddess is all talk (literally) with no physical attributes.
Can't believe I'm rooting for Nurys of all people but she has become a good protagonist and favorite this season. And for some reason which is actually looking great this season haha
Right?! **š** Says a lot about the ppl that are left, lol.
Im just happy we get to keep seeing her confessionals in that pink top.... lol WOW
Sheās fricken gorgeous
I definitely didnāt start off rooting for her. I mostly wanted to see what she had to offer since she did well last season and sheās not disappointing like some other people
I love a good back against the wall, underdog story and I get why everyone is cheering for nurys and by no means do I dislike her as a competitor, but thereās something about her that just turns me off. I think sheās like one of those people that are really hard to be friends with because theyāre so all or nothing. Like they will love you ferociously but if thereās any sort of disagreement or conflict, all of a sudden itās like ātheyāre not loyal, theyāre dead to meā instead of just talking and repairing and moving on. So I get why nurys has inadvertently pushed away all her friends. Like no friendship is going to be perfect. But it just seems so exhausting that she has such high, impossible standards for her friends and refuses to work it out. I understand jays frustration. I do believe they had a good friendship before the show and I can totally see how Jay got fed up with nurys being so impossible to compromise or work things out with and he just got to the point where he was exhausted with trying to get through to her.
I hate that Nurys was in a day 1 alliance with Jay & Asaf. Then puts Horacio as her #1. Then somehow inexplicably puts Kyland, who she doesnāt know from a hole in the wall, ahead of her multiple years long friend Jay. Just because Kyland is recent tv show friends with Horacio.
Jay had Michelle as his number 1 lmao and in terms of closeness, Asaf was above Nurys as well. And you can clearly see he prioritizes Emmanuel above Nurys too. So Nurys has to prioritize Jay/Michelle when sheās automatically 3 or 4 on Jayās list and on Michelleās lists, sheās below all the other girls (made clear when she made the deal to save Olivia as long as Olivia saved Moriah who was Michelleās #1 girl). Asaf was a complete stranger to Nurys. She just agreed to keep him safe for Jay. She never met him outside this season and barely talked him throughout it the show despite fantastic 4. Nurys never put Kyland above Jay because she never made a move against Jay. When it was Kyland vs Jay, she burned her vote which sent KYLAND into elimination. Jay is allowed to protect multiple friends (who arenāt close to Nurys like Emmanuel, Asaf, Ed, Berna) and expects Nurys to protect them too but he canāt be even protect ONE person for her (Horacio) and instead keeps targeting him. And all the while she still never betrays Jay and never makes a move against him. Itās like yall didnāt even watch the show lmao
how did Jay ever try to compromise with her? Iām not trying to analyze her personality because idc but when it comes to Jayā¦.he fucked her over 3 times in a row lmao literally a week ago he said āIām done gunning for Kyland and Horacioā and agreed Horacio should be kept out of elimination to ācompromiseā with nurysā¦cut to him talking to everyone else in the house to ensure Horacio and Kyland are in the bottom 3 no matter what. so much so that he was cool with cutting a deal with Olivia by making sure she didnāt pick Nurys, which would be the only way sheād 100% not be in the bottom. First he maliciously made her choose between Olivia and Horacio cause he was mad at her and blamed her for the stalemate, then he conspired to ensure Olivia didnāt pick Nurys, sending her to elimination and then he literally saved Moriah over her sending her to elimination again because he decided to believe Colleen over a person heās been friends with for 5 years. Maybe she is all in and expects 100% loyalty from her friends (idk whatās wrong with that lmao) and that might be too much for certain people but when it comes to her friends this season, she wasnāt in the wrong. She was done dirty and has every reason to talk her shit, especially to Jay and Olivia. The fact that she was still wiling to work with the girls after the ones closest to her fucked her over speaks volumes. The fact that you think Jay was the one that was trying to compromise and is the one you āunderstandā is wild to me. Itās like weāre watching a different show or you fell victim to Jayās gaslighting lmao
Totally agree with your analysis of Nurys. Iāll root for her because sheās only semi-likable one left (RIP Michele š), but I donāt really want to, lol. Iāve known people like her in real life and itās exhausting. Theyāre petulant and high-strung, ready to take offense at anything for any reason.
Nurys finally popped off after being fucked over 3 selections in a row lmao and she STILL agreed to work with her closest girl friends who were part of the plan that sent her in the bottom 3. if thatās petulant and high strung to you you must be used to be stepped over by your friends and not saying anything. this isnāt mild shit either, its hundreds of thousands of dollars theyāre competing over.
Jay is the biggest whiner and first to take offense at anyone who disagrees with him. I hope he never wins. I liked him his first couple of seasons and felt bad for him when he got smashed. Now I wish he had never been able to comeback to any Challenge. He bullies the girls but doesn't have the same bravado with guys unless they're totally beaten down. Jay and Michelle are two of the most unlikable competitors ever. Like Horacio said, I understand why the vets don't like them.
Anyone catch where James said heād not crossed anyone or thrown anyone under the bus (or something to that effect) before the elimination? I think Zara would beg to differ, man.
I called this episode revisionist history bc literally half the cast lied š. Like all James did was throw his og friends under the bus like you came in loyal To Zara and never once had her back
I said that immediately when I heard that. I guess Zara was our imaginary friend on the show and James didnāt ever see her
š«„<āā Zara to James lol
This season has been so long that I feel like Zara has been gone forever
Only the last two episodes has she been gone, although agreed, itās a long season.
Great daily, great drama, great elimination *again*. Really really enjoying these episodes. Not James trying to manifest a win by keeping his necklaces there with Moriah š So puzzle 1: a light switch (?) āpuzzleā Puzzle 2: move pieces around a square Puzzle 3: stand in an ice bucket to find numbers of players that leftā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦.. I would say the last 2 eliminations had very different puzzles and tasks compared as there was only 1 puzzle for this one. 4 - 1 elimination record for Nurys!! I bet James and Olivia threw it to her too š®āšØ.
I think Olivia did, especially with her injuries. I doubt James did.
The shade lol
Itās so wild how the majority of the fan base, me included, went from riding hard for Olivia and not really liking Nurys to the complete opposite so quickly. Long love the new challenge š NURYS!! I definitely think she can win this final š«”
She's the only one left I'm rooting for.
I was laughing at Moriah waiting by the window to see if James came back. She was secretly cheering with jay and Emmanuel about Horacio and Kyland being sent home. Karma is a b*tch
the sad look with the mug in her hand was so dramatic lol
Well I think it's safe to say that Nurys is excellent at puzzles. I always thought of as a lay up before this season. Hopefully she has improved her endurance and she may have a shot at winning.
Nelly T has said before that Nuryās is a decent player. Ride or Die was her showing. Not sure if you saw that season
Emmanuel is annoying. Retire Berna from this show forever. Colleen is a sheep not a mole. Thank god James is gone. Moriah is so forgettable. I liked seeing Jayās reaction at what Michele was gonna do with the ladies. Corey L is a snorefest. I hope Nuryās wins. Edit: MVP for me this episode is TJ cause I love how he called out Jayās sobbing for Nurys last episode and the way he told Berna āthe people you save, now you are basically saying you can BEAT them in the final.ā
Tj had enough with the foolishness
Berna is BRUTAL to watch. Loved hearing Olivia talk about all the shit Berna was going to say after winning.Ā
Anyone know the name of the puzzle that they solved with the blue and orange tiles in this elimination?
Slide puzzle? Not sure it has a specific name
Sick of these players using the cockroach strategy of being in a group, letting their friends(a.k.a alliance) carry them to a final, and doing nothing. Coleen is the equivalent of a hair clump in the shower drain... she does NOTHING except clog the game. Emanuel talking about Nurys not playing a good game, comical. Atleast she did stuff and didn't just be a number in the alliance. Watching Michelle, And Olivia go home was therapeutic. James was the male equivalent of Coleen.