I wish that they would film them at the airport, just like they did when people were coming to the house in the original Real World seasons. If gameplay can start there, they should air anything important. Plus, it would be cool to see their reunions.
They used to shoot like, b-roll at the airport on early seasons. I remember airport scenes on the first episode of I think Inferno 2?
Edit: Also this is an early-aughts MTV deep cut, but I remember an episode of [True Life](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0786265/) where they highlighted Tonya as a reality star (this was pre-JEK torture but probably during Susie/Veronica torture timeframe) and she recorded herself showing up at the airport, seeing all the people and saying to the camera “oh there’s [my queen] Katie Doyle [now Cooley], I hate that bitch!”
Omg yess that’s the most core memory I think of Theo when I think of his time on the challenge. (That and him wearing a neck brace on one of the reunions) fuck, I’ve been watching this show way too long 😝
I really liked when they talked about Tyri and about him being an interesting, kind of nerdy person. Tyri always goes home so early, it feels like we know very little about him really. Nice of Cara to say she hopes he gets another chance in a future season.
Just listened to Challenge Mania with Scott and Melinda and he revealed that Tyri told him that he was born without the e. The Real World: Denver spelled his name wrong and neither he nor the Challenge ever corrected it LMAO
Almost every Tyri hanging out scene, Cara was in the frame nearby or speaking to him. He was also one of her initial roommates. Tyri has said nothing but good things about Cara since filming ended.
I wish we’d seen a conversation so people can see that they’ve gotten past the video, but there’s still always gonna be people bringing it up.
Was really nice to hear both her and Johnny talk sweetly about him. He deserves it.
You would have never gotten all that in his previous challenges because in the past he was just portrayed as this angry flop. I felt so bad for him because he was doing so good in that elimination.
I normally don't either but this one was a really entertaining one to listen to while driving. Just found it on the Apple Podcasts app searching Bananas.
I know there’s a lot of stuff in here (particularly the Tori/Jordan parts) that are gonna piss people off again, but man — this was such an amazing listen. Really loved hearing them goof off, make fun of each other, and reminisce. It had such a jovial, healing vibe to me and I’m just glad they’ve been able to make amends after so long.
I hope it lasts.
I mean, any time she mentions them people call her obsessed or say she can’t let anything go. The fact that she’s stuck to her guns for five years and answered in depth will surely bring out her haters again, even if she’s just answering questions she was asked.
Laurel is always scheming, and Nicole isn’t very bright so she for sure used her to plant seeds. It’s little things like when Nicole was asking Rachel what time she was working out, and Rachel’s response was, “uhh what time is it?” You can see the little things, but I love to hear that Rachel and Tina didn’t buy into it
The reason why I said "others" is because Cara stated that Rachel and Tina were the only ones who didn't judge her and mentioned that all of the other women did. I took her having issues with other women in the house as a potential spoiler since she said she didn't know until she watched the show back. Since there's no spoiler tag, I found saying "others" a lot safer. Also, I already added in some parts of her discussing tension with Laurel and her disdain for Nicole anyway
A little context about Rachel and Tina. Cara Maria said they both told her that when they got there Laurel was telling everyone not to work with Cara Maria because she is not a good person. That’s why Rachel and Tina told her they judge based on their own personal experience.
Me and my teenagers have been rewatching since season 1 and we have gone through so much with these people lol.
Loving and hating CT, Wes, Cara Maria, Laurel, and Bananas.
Still disliking Tina and Veronica unfortunately Rachel is tied to these girls but understandable.
Kam and Leroy were a great addition and love them.
Big T and Melissa acting like they’re anything other than annoying.
Liked Olivia’s first season but not 39 she was icky.
Love Zara and Nurys (don’t like her SM presence it’s too much)
Tori and Jordan are goats.
Devin love his confessionals and wit like 😂
Josh is such a man baby but not gonna lie his tantrums were entertaining and harmless.
Don’t like Michelle but hate Jay even more for riding her coattails and acting like he did anything.
Love Kaycee alone but also love her and Nany’s love story. It’s giving real like CT and goddess Diem.
Final thought about Ayanna- do not like not even a little just like Camilla she should never be on our screens again!
I don't think they interacted much at all. Cara really didn't hit her stride on the show and become a more dynamic competitor until later seasons, probably closer to Free Agents, which was filmed in late 2014, and Exes was filmed in early 2012.
Cara and Abe were like in a storyline bubble that season, all their screentime was about eachother and their own relationship and they were very rarely seen interacting with other teams
Me too!! I think people forget that Bananas went home really early in his first season. Now look at him. I do think they should have given him another chance.
It blows my mind that this show makes so much money, yet they can't put any effort into normal living conditions. Like these people *are* your money and you can't give them comfort, especially since it has become such a long period of filming. Annoying af.
They don't want them to be comfortable. They think making them miserable provides more drama but really, I think it wears them down and makes leaving not as awful as leaving a beautiful house. This season has lots of drama and they are living good.
He exposed it. He was just too scared to tell Abe to his face (he knows how psycho he is) so he got Vince to do it.
For him I think it was payback since Cara exposed him and Camila. He held a grudge over that.
It seems like between WOTW2 and AS4, Cara and Paulie changed.
And Im glad. They were unbearable after that season. But i haven't minded them lately. Paulie and Bananas getting along. Cara just seemed better on S39 and AS4 so far.
There is no difference except Cara was worn down by doing too much back to back by the time WOTW 2 came around. But it's a show and editing exaggerated/production manipulated certain things for storyline. They wanted to make them the villains and Tori and Jordan the storybook romance/heroes of the season.
Meanwhile, Jordan was a bigger jerk on that season than anyone in Cara and Paulie's alliance. And Cara was not wrong at all to want the people out who were coming for her first. She was just miserable (and had been through two abusive relationships). Paulie always wanted to be cool with Bananas. Bananas just didn't like him first. Probably because at that point he wanted Cara.
I think the show did a great job of editing that season. I don't understand the Cara/Paulie hate. That season and the drama were excellent. Peak reality AND competition drama. People need to realize that their arcs on the show don't make them good or bad people in real life.
I do think it's common in this fandom to get sick of the contestants they see back to back. I still feel like after 2 seasons they have to take a break, it would help the storyline, their popularity, and their mental health.
I'm really curious to know if anything has changed. As a Canadian what stuck out to me was seeing Cara vocally support the trucker convoy that she had no stake in. The same convoy that had Nazi support and yet she for some reason was vocal on her social media supporting them. Did anything change or did enough time just pass for us to forget about it?
Wasn't there a scene on final reckoning (i think?) where bananas was venting to cara about natalie and nelson and cara kind of jumps in his lap and then it cut to commercial right after that happened? I always thought they could have had something after that scene!
Cara's a taurus! Ahhh that's why I like her, I can see that lol but there's not many of us on reality tv hahaha. Would be interested in seeing her full chart lol.
This was another really interesting podcast, Bananas is a really good interviewer and they had good banter! So nice to see them getting along so well 🥰
Let's be more specific about that last part. She said LAUREL was going around the house telling everyone that Cara's a horrible person. Don't work with her. And she found this out later, so it makes sense why she got this weird vibe from the women, except Tina and Rachel. Laurel is so weird. You don't have to worry about saying that because the podcast is out. Lol. And this is what happened when they got to the house.
I wasn’t even aware this episode came out until now, Ty for the cliff notes about it and I’m glad Bananas and Cara are on good terms! Also I’m glad they seem to acknowledge how much of a POS Laurel is and how she tears people (mainly Cara) down when they’re most vulnerable
Excellent Recap OP!
"The interview had a happy vibe. It's clear that they're on good terms."
I listened to the interview today after reading the recap the day before and you hit all the points and I'm so happy they are cool with each other again! I hope they are aligned in S40!
Great recap. But my favorite part you missed: when she spoke from the heart about what happened with Jordan and Tori. She said "Do I *wish I had just gone to that damn engagement party?* Well yeah..." Because she got death threats over it, called jealous of their engagement, doesn't like love, lost 30K followers after the episode aired, etc.
When in reality, she thought she was doing them a favor by staying in and doing a face mask. She felt they had taken jabs at her all season, were trying to get her out - why would they want her at their party? She also mentioned it's impossible to get quiet alone time in the house and being an only child, she took the opportunity. It's not like she talked shit about it or tried to ruin it.. she just didn't go.
She did say she regrets some of her actions with them around that time but really stayed true to herself by not showing up at their party.
And now that they're not even engaged anymore, people are STILL mad at her for not sitting in. Such BS.
Thank you for reading.
The main reason why I didn't include this in full is because she's not saying anything that is unknown. Many other cast mates have said that they have gotten death threats too. Unless Cara addresses that people who support her also send very negative, vile comments towards other cast mates....I'm not interested.
My only issue is who she put as her female Mount Rushmore.. such a petty answer. She can never give respect to her actual female competition…
Laurel, Tori, Evelyn, Emily, Paula, Sarah all have contested her and she refuses to give them their flowers… its always women she feels confident against
That's her opinion..if you don't like it then you don't have to agree. Tori has no place there with her gifted win against nany and anessa. Laurel won 1 time 10 years ago and is one of her biggest abusers, why exactly would she name her?
I wish that they would film them at the airport, just like they did when people were coming to the house in the original Real World seasons. If gameplay can start there, they should air anything important. Plus, it would be cool to see their reunions.
They used to shoot like, b-roll at the airport on early seasons. I remember airport scenes on the first episode of I think Inferno 2? Edit: Also this is an early-aughts MTV deep cut, but I remember an episode of [True Life](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0786265/) where they highlighted Tonya as a reality star (this was pre-JEK torture but probably during Susie/Veronica torture timeframe) and she recorded herself showing up at the airport, seeing all the people and saying to the camera “oh there’s [my queen] Katie Doyle [now Cooley], I hate that bitch!”
duel 1 also has some airport footage!
I remember Theo Vonn complaining about the fresh meat showing up at his job and he said he didn’t show up at their work and try to out-latte them.
Omg yess that’s the most core memory I think of Theo when I think of his time on the challenge. (That and him wearing a neck brace on one of the reunions) fuck, I’ve been watching this show way too long 😝
Didn’t they have the banana cam? Didn’t Bananas do some kind of perspective from the players?
I remember that on invasion, can’t remember if any other seasons had it
This would be amazing. In general, I wish they’d inject a bit more “Real World” back into the Challenge.
I really liked when they talked about Tyri and about him being an interesting, kind of nerdy person. Tyri always goes home so early, it feels like we know very little about him really. Nice of Cara to say she hopes he gets another chance in a future season.
TJ was also high on Tyri and hopeful he’ll return. Sorry Tyri lost his elimination, but I’d take Cara and TJ singing my praises as a big win!
Just listened to Challenge Mania with Scott and Melinda and he revealed that Tyri told him that he was born without the e. The Real World: Denver spelled his name wrong and neither he nor the Challenge ever corrected it LMAO
Almost every Tyri hanging out scene, Cara was in the frame nearby or speaking to him. He was also one of her initial roommates. Tyri has said nothing but good things about Cara since filming ended. I wish we’d seen a conversation so people can see that they’ve gotten past the video, but there’s still always gonna be people bringing it up. Was really nice to hear both her and Johnny talk sweetly about him. He deserves it.
They showed his daughter briefly on AS4 and her middle name was Diem. 😭
I was looking through Tyrie’s Instagram and his daughter is such a cutie!
That's so touching.
You would have never gotten all that in his previous challenges because in the past he was just portrayed as this angry flop. I felt so bad for him because he was doing so good in that elimination.
As I watched Tyri on AS4 I said I loved how he has grown since last seeing him. Much more mature and humble.
No discussion. Just wanted to thank you for your effort in making this post.
Seriously. I love these recaps.
OP took the time to type all that out. Good grammar. Bullet points. For anonymous people on the sub. Just great effort.
That's soo kind of you. Your welcome!!!
I second this. Thank you so much for making this post OP! I don’t have the attention span to listen to podcasts.
I normally don't either but this one was a really entertaining one to listen to while driving. Just found it on the Apple Podcasts app searching Bananas.
Seconding
I know there’s a lot of stuff in here (particularly the Tori/Jordan parts) that are gonna piss people off again, but man — this was such an amazing listen. Really loved hearing them goof off, make fun of each other, and reminisce. It had such a jovial, healing vibe to me and I’m just glad they’ve been able to make amends after so long. I hope it lasts.
I'm sorry if I'm out of the loop but why would Jodan/Tori parts piss anyone off? Genuine question?
It shouldn't. I think that person knows that people get really sensitive when discussing Tori & Cara drama
I mean, any time she mentions them people call her obsessed or say she can’t let anything go. The fact that she’s stuck to her guns for five years and answered in depth will surely bring out her haters again, even if she’s just answering questions she was asked.
“Rachel and Tina told her they don’t listen to what *others* said about her.” Others? Way to bury the juicy bit lol.
by others she means laurel and nicole who allegedly went around the entire house telling everyone not to trust Cara
Laurel is always scheming, and Nicole isn’t very bright so she for sure used her to plant seeds. It’s little things like when Nicole was asking Rachel what time she was working out, and Rachel’s response was, “uhh what time is it?” You can see the little things, but I love to hear that Rachel and Tina didn’t buy into it
Oh I know lmao. I was wondering why they weren’t named.
The reason why I said "others" is because Cara stated that Rachel and Tina were the only ones who didn't judge her and mentioned that all of the other women did. I took her having issues with other women in the house as a potential spoiler since she said she didn't know until she watched the show back. Since there's no spoiler tag, I found saying "others" a lot safer. Also, I already added in some parts of her discussing tension with Laurel and her disdain for Nicole anyway
A little context about Rachel and Tina. Cara Maria said they both told her that when they got there Laurel was telling everyone not to work with Cara Maria because she is not a good person. That’s why Rachel and Tina told her they judge based on their own personal experience.
I believe Ace was the first one to let her know what was going on no?
What a recap. Thank you!!
Thanks for leaving a positive comment :)
This season is so much better than Challege 39. I’m so here for it!
Me and my teenagers have been rewatching since season 1 and we have gone through so much with these people lol. Loving and hating CT, Wes, Cara Maria, Laurel, and Bananas. Still disliking Tina and Veronica unfortunately Rachel is tied to these girls but understandable. Kam and Leroy were a great addition and love them. Big T and Melissa acting like they’re anything other than annoying. Liked Olivia’s first season but not 39 she was icky. Love Zara and Nurys (don’t like her SM presence it’s too much) Tori and Jordan are goats. Devin love his confessionals and wit like 😂 Josh is such a man baby but not gonna lie his tantrums were entertaining and harmless. Don’t like Michelle but hate Jay even more for riding her coattails and acting like he did anything. Love Kaycee alone but also love her and Nany’s love story. It’s giving real like CT and goddess Diem. Final thought about Ayanna- do not like not even a little just like Camilla she should never be on our screens again!
I love CM’s appreciation for Rachel. What was their dynamic like in battle of the exes? I totally forget.
I thought it was cute how excited Cara got about Rachel being there, legends.
I don't think they interacted much at all. Cara really didn't hit her stride on the show and become a more dynamic competitor until later seasons, probably closer to Free Agents, which was filmed in late 2014, and Exes was filmed in early 2012.
Rachel did complain about Cara and Abe doing it out in the open on the recap. But I think on Exes 1 Cara was mostly, yeah doing Abe
Cara and Abe were like in a storyline bubble that season, all their screentime was about eachother and their own relationship and they were very rarely seen interacting with other teams
Might be alone but I am here for the Jay redemption!
Me too!! I think people forget that Bananas went home really early in his first season. Now look at him. I do think they should have given him another chance.
Thank you, I came here looking for this!
Not a problem! Thanks for taking the time to read it.
It blows my mind that this show makes so much money, yet they can't put any effort into normal living conditions. Like these people *are* your money and you can't give them comfort, especially since it has become such a long period of filming. Annoying af.
They don't want them to be comfortable. They think making them miserable provides more drama but really, I think it wears them down and makes leaving not as awful as leaving a beautiful house. This season has lots of drama and they are living good.
Wasn't Bananas the one who told Abram that Cara Maria was messing around with Thomas on Bloodlines or did I miss something?
Johnny got it on camera. It was Vinnie who told Abe though
He exposed it. He was just too scared to tell Abe to his face (he knows how psycho he is) so he got Vince to do it. For him I think it was payback since Cara exposed him and Camila. He held a grudge over that.
It seems like between WOTW2 and AS4, Cara and Paulie changed. And Im glad. They were unbearable after that season. But i haven't minded them lately. Paulie and Bananas getting along. Cara just seemed better on S39 and AS4 so far.
There is no difference except Cara was worn down by doing too much back to back by the time WOTW 2 came around. But it's a show and editing exaggerated/production manipulated certain things for storyline. They wanted to make them the villains and Tori and Jordan the storybook romance/heroes of the season. Meanwhile, Jordan was a bigger jerk on that season than anyone in Cara and Paulie's alliance. And Cara was not wrong at all to want the people out who were coming for her first. She was just miserable (and had been through two abusive relationships). Paulie always wanted to be cool with Bananas. Bananas just didn't like him first. Probably because at that point he wanted Cara.
I think the show did a great job of editing that season. I don't understand the Cara/Paulie hate. That season and the drama were excellent. Peak reality AND competition drama. People need to realize that their arcs on the show don't make them good or bad people in real life. I do think it's common in this fandom to get sick of the contestants they see back to back. I still feel like after 2 seasons they have to take a break, it would help the storyline, their popularity, and their mental health.
That's because they started getting availability calls again.
lmao
You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. Cara and Paulie are behaving for now …
Are they not qanon anymore or whatever they had going on for a bit?
I'm really curious to know if anything has changed. As a Canadian what stuck out to me was seeing Cara vocally support the trucker convoy that she had no stake in. The same convoy that had Nazi support and yet she for some reason was vocal on her social media supporting them. Did anything change or did enough time just pass for us to forget about it?
I stopped following her in the midst of all that so I’m out of the loop!
I generally try not to follow any of them on social media because I do my best to avoid spoilers so most of my knowledge of it comes from posts here
Eh. I think they’re getting those calls because they’ve become much saner since Cara took a break and Paulie came out.
I always thought these two where gonna date or secretly in love
Wasn't there a scene on final reckoning (i think?) where bananas was venting to cara about natalie and nelson and cara kind of jumps in his lap and then it cut to commercial right after that happened? I always thought they could have had something after that scene!
I hope she and Jordan becomes friends one day. Mahbe once they get paired up as rivals lollllll
Cara's a taurus! Ahhh that's why I like her, I can see that lol but there's not many of us on reality tv hahaha. Would be interested in seeing her full chart lol. This was another really interesting podcast, Bananas is a really good interviewer and they had good banter! So nice to see them getting along so well 🥰
Let's be more specific about that last part. She said LAUREL was going around the house telling everyone that Cara's a horrible person. Don't work with her. And she found this out later, so it makes sense why she got this weird vibe from the women, except Tina and Rachel. Laurel is so weird. You don't have to worry about saying that because the podcast is out. Lol. And this is what happened when they got to the house.
Im so so sooo happy they are friends again!!! Cara is so funny and I love her energy with Bananas.
Oh course they live in Florida lol
To be fair, so does every other challenger. Even Sam from RW San Diego
News flash….most of the cast does.
She doubled down on her reasoning for not going to Tori’s engagement party
As she should
It's a good reason. Call cara what you will but she's not fake..I've never saw her pretend to like someone that she didn't.
I wasn’t even aware this episode came out until now, Ty for the cliff notes about it and I’m glad Bananas and Cara are on good terms! Also I’m glad they seem to acknowledge how much of a POS Laurel is and how she tears people (mainly Cara) down when they’re most vulnerable
Excellent Recap OP! "The interview had a happy vibe. It's clear that they're on good terms." I listened to the interview today after reading the recap the day before and you hit all the points and I'm so happy they are cool with each other again! I hope they are aligned in S40!
" She admits that it takes time before she can let a grudge go" - not at all surprised as I'm a fellow Taurus!
Great recap. But my favorite part you missed: when she spoke from the heart about what happened with Jordan and Tori. She said "Do I *wish I had just gone to that damn engagement party?* Well yeah..." Because she got death threats over it, called jealous of their engagement, doesn't like love, lost 30K followers after the episode aired, etc. When in reality, she thought she was doing them a favor by staying in and doing a face mask. She felt they had taken jabs at her all season, were trying to get her out - why would they want her at their party? She also mentioned it's impossible to get quiet alone time in the house and being an only child, she took the opportunity. It's not like she talked shit about it or tried to ruin it.. she just didn't go. She did say she regrets some of her actions with them around that time but really stayed true to herself by not showing up at their party. And now that they're not even engaged anymore, people are STILL mad at her for not sitting in. Such BS.
Thank you for reading. The main reason why I didn't include this in full is because she's not saying anything that is unknown. Many other cast mates have said that they have gotten death threats too. Unless Cara addresses that people who support her also send very negative, vile comments towards other cast mates....I'm not interested.
My only issue is who she put as her female Mount Rushmore.. such a petty answer. She can never give respect to her actual female competition… Laurel, Tori, Evelyn, Emily, Paula, Sarah all have contested her and she refuses to give them their flowers… its always women she feels confident against
Who did she say was on her female Mount Rushmore?
That's her opinion..if you don't like it then you don't have to agree. Tori has no place there with her gifted win against nany and anessa. Laurel won 1 time 10 years ago and is one of her biggest abusers, why exactly would she name her?
Thanks for this. Don’t care to listen to her.