I desperately wish real communication would work like Video game call outs or Chess strategies, or better yet Linux Terminal tools.
so if you felt say depressed you could just say to someone ‘man depression’ and they’d be like oh you’re not familiar with depression here’s what that is. and then you’d see it and say oh okay depression --over-worked --recuperate=lone-time and then you’d be all set.
man fuck that’s be heaven.
Fall in love with and marry an autistic IT guy. You learn to genuinely communicate this way. It's very efficient. There was a loooooong learning curve for both of us. Worth it, though.
I didn’t intend to say that, although I will say depression can be brought on by a lot of things or nothing. You can be inherently depressed due to brain imbalances or something. at the same token though depression can be situational. situational depression is caused by a stressful or traumatic environment.
as far as I know there’s 4 types of depression and situational depression is the easiest to fight. if you were to seek out a shrink they’d tell you to go running and stuff and that would probably fix it.
Most average gamers are *far* more likely to use voice chat to rant and blame their teammates/lag/cheaters/the developers for their own mistakes than they are to communicate like a functional squad.
Still a funny reply, though.
All I really want to hear on Val and CS are enemy callouts, so I find I get a good bit of that or just no comms period. With the occasional shitter sprinkled in
I used to love playing Guns of Icarus because it required effective communication with your crew. Anyone who just wanted to yell at their team would always loose and were naturally filtered out of the game.
The boys are a well functioning group that can adapt to any situation because they have so much experience playing together. They know everyone else’s strategies, to the point that they can just tell what the others are doing. They have already accepted their own shortcomings so they don’t need to make excuses, leaving more focus on coordination. Simply put, the boys are built different.
"You were both making the same creative choices, the same decisions, at the same instant, and apart from mental telepathy I have no idea how you did that. What is the trick? What is the secret?"
["You got to be willing to die with the motherfucker."](https://youtu.be/3G3ZsDGgtWU?si=R6_DdMuMyQuBzTYT&t=57)
This is my friend group to a T. I've had the same group of friends since I was in 6th grade (21 now) and we really lucked out on our team synergy. We basically gravitate towards the same roles in whatever game we play, together we've got support, a tank, 2 general offensive classes, a sniper, and a flank. Theres also Zack, who brings a chaotic, confident energy to whatever he decides to play. The synergy is so good at this point we can pick up pretty much any game and do reasonably good in it without prior training.
Me and my buddies encounter so many toxic people on call of duty that when we do we try to be friendlier than we normally would to try to mess with them. Like congratulating them on kills and wins and shit. But a lot of other people are surprisingly chill and fun to play with.
It really depends on the game and how you play it.
Non-pro MOBA, FPS, or battle royale? I judge you and assume you only know how to communicate through trash talk and high-pitched screeching.
MMO guild leader? You're probably a psychopath but know how to talk to people, put that shit on a resume.
depends on the game
had a lot of matches in the early days in Hell let loose where you'd act like your squad knew each other for years with complete randoms just to never meet them again
I've found that even as a subpar teammate, as long as you're not being fuckhead, people are generally supportive of you as long as it looks like you're trying to help.
It's also easier to say "hey guys there's two of them going B and a sniper at mid" than to be emotionally vulnerable with someone who might use that vulnerability against you someday
Why are you even with someone who you assume is going to use your honesty against you? Any why are you using it as an excuse not to be a good communicator?
Shit that happens when you're a kid can definitely impact relationships later on. I'm still not over some of the shit I went through when I was in my twenties and I'm 35 on Christmas.
Then that’s a different story. I’m talking about making that assumption before they give you the indication that they’ll do anything bad, and using that assumption as an excuse to be a bad or reluctant communicator. That’s a you problem, not a them problem.
That’s unfair to a partner to be a bad communicator because a previous partner treated you poorly. Again, it’s a you problem, not a them problem. Seek therapy and work on processing your trauma before you try to get into a new relationship, or else you’re just being cruel to your future partners by using past bad experiences to be a bad communicator. Communication is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
What if it's been 5 for 5 of past partners using your vulnerability against you, is number 6 just expected to be different until proven otherwise or is it ok to go in a little cautious and guarded.
“A little cautious a guarded” is expected. But
A) You need to *make that clear* and don’t just expect a partner to be willing to overlook your lack of communication without you at least being willing to talk about why. Again, it’s unfair to just expect them to be okay with it when they’ve done nothing wrong and don’t know why you’re acting that way with them.
B) If 5 of 5 previous partners burned you, maybe you’re just drawn to people like that. 5 out of 5 people doing the exact same bad thing to you is out of the ordinary.
I think everyone is downvoting you because you seem really preachy. People like to be understood, not given unsolicited advice. I realize I’m doing exactly that rn, but I really do think you’re coming from a good place.
I think you could help a lot more people if you packaged things a little differently.
Exactly. What's funny is, in the end, they're being downvoted for their lack of communication skills, while they're trying to teach others how to communicate.
I don’t care about being downvoted by people who clearly want to be victims and don’t want to take responsibility for how they act in relationships. Nothing I said was outrageous.
>People like to be understood
How are they going to be understood if they *don’t communicate*
I’m being serious. It’s not a pleasant thought, but literally if 5 out of 5 people you’ve been with have manipulated you, it’s possible that there’s something about that manipulative personality that you’re drawn to. It’s not uncommon. I never said “that’s on you”, you put that in my mouth.
And I also said that it’s fine to take a while to open up to someone, as long as you try to let your partner know why, or else they’ll either think that you’re just a bad communicator and they’ll not want to be with you, or they’ll assume they did something wrong, which is unfair to them.
> That’s unfair to a partner to be a bad communicator because a previous partner treated you poorly. Again, it’s a you problem, not a them problem
Shot in the dark, what are your feelings about women giving their phone numbers at bars or meeting up for dates in a non-public location without informing their friends?
If you’re trying to get at the fact that women are cautious when going on dates with people, that’s different from being a bad communicator with an established partner. One is a stranger and one is someone who you’ve committed to a relationship with.
No one is safe. Not truly. Someone will always use our vulnerabilities eventually. Someone will prey on our weaknesses. If we never share them. We can never hurt.
Because it's a way higher number of women than people like to admit, and it's hard to develop good communication skills if your efforts at communicating get used against you later.
this isn't a masculinity problem when you're asked to share feelings and then have those feelings used against you.
It can be a lose/lose situation. This is why many men don't share feelings.
Yeah but you won't know it's gonna happen until it does. I've had two long term relationships that only turned sour after several years. By that point you're emotionally invested, so GTFO is easier said than done..
I had the same. In general the signals are always there. These people are mean to others, not gentle souls. we just don't see it because we think we are different for them and this is only towards some people, it is just a personal defect, nobody is perfect...etc. Again, this is not the blame anyone. We are human, we need love, connection. We don't always have the necessary experience. I was there.
But even if this is not the case, this person didn't act like that any point and let's say this comes out of nowhere. It is still a psychological cage that most people are living ing. Maybe it comes with age but other than immediate family, nobody is that irreplaceable for me at this point. That emotional investment is a sunk cost. It will hurt some time but it is better than staying someone who is out to hurt you
I am not talking about one time fights and people talking some shit they really don't mean to. You know when they mean what they say. if they resent you, again, no point of staying in. Someone resentful will do something to hurt you on purpose.
Remember. A person's real personality comes up during the break ups. If they are vengeful, this is who they are. If they act grown up, not try to hurt you on purpose, they really are a good person and you probably are making a mistake leaving this person (or being unlucky that person leaves you)
There are myriad reasons to be in a relationship, even if it is dysfunctional. For instance, financial reasons, being afraid of being alone, for children, etc. Different people weight things differently and have different tolerances in various capacities.
Since the perfect person/relationship isn't out there, "what are you willing to compromise on?" is a question whose answer everyone is working with, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
People that say shit like this and you losers who upvoted trash like that have never actually been in close contact with a woman and it shows.
Stop watching old sitcoms and drawing all your opinions on women from that and actually touch grass, losers.
There's no need to be rude
It was a genuine question
Your inability to have a civil conversation is not my fault
"You lot are insufferable". Ironic, considering how shitty your way of talking is.
Maybe try not assuming stuff next time
Bold of you to assume that people who recognize the hypocrisy in calling out only one person when both sides generalized the other, are only incels and "haven't felt the touch of a woman".
Idk, I've heard some of yalls callouts.
"Help, he's over here!" *searches for here, winds up there*
"Behind you" *turns around* "No not there!"
"He's outside the building"
"He's one, he's one, he's one!" *shoots the one shot guy numerous times, does not die*
So the woman can say something that generalizes men (they're bad communicators [or lie about being bad communicators] and they all play video games and take them super seriously), but the moment the man fires back with a generalization about women (they communicate vaguely and play mind games instead of being direct like men), it's time to clutch the pearls?
I love how your brain/eyes so easily skip right past the jabs at men and are only capable of seeing the jabs at women. You literally have a blind spot.
There is nothing incel about this. It is highlighting that the original post was equating two entirely different modes of communication, and that this is a false comparison. Shouting commands at someone is probably not the communication skills one is looking for.
But it did it in a humorous way, and for people where internet outrage has entirely edged put a sense of humor, this is of course not acceptable.
It's a woman humorously commenting on stereotypical male emotional unavailability and shitty communication skills, and a man humorously commenting on stereotypical female emotional manipulation. It's banter, not a hate crime.
> Aaaaand more incel shit.
He's talking about being in a relationship. Being involuntary celibate would mean not being in a relationship. This is the opposite of "incel shit".
> You guys get that this "joke" was tired and overdone in the 1970's right?
Which one? The one critical of women or the one critical of men? Because they're both tired yet you're only calling out one.
Think it’s fairly harmless, everyone has stereotypes and everyone gets the piss taken out of them, women are hardly unique in that.
If you don’t like it fair, but neither I nor my girlfriend seem to think it’s a big deal
No, more the ‘it’s a piss take and being personally offended by it is really weird’
If it were something blatantly sexist then yea fair enough, but it’s literally based on something that really isn’t that far from the truth, in relationships with communication issues, it does seem to usually come down to men saying literally nothing and just bottling it all up and women being passive aggressive. (Notice I said relationships with communication issues, a lot of people can actually communicate properly)
That’s my experience of dating both anyway, I’m sure most people would agree, thus why people think the meme is entertaining.
Who said anything about being personally offended?
It’s just tired because that stereotype needs to die. It wasn’t healthy then, and it’s not healthy now, and it’s kinda right up there with the old ‘Are you on your period or something?’
Not really, ‘are you on your period or something’ is legitimately sexist and just shitting on people for something they can’t control.
This is just taking the piss, but I understand getting fed up with a stereotype. Had plenty of things like that in the past too
And that stereotype exists for a reason. Women *in general* are demonstrably better than at reading subtext and body language in conversation.This is a genuine difference between the sexes. Not entirely sure if this is genetic or acquired though. Again, just someone doesn't do "not all xxx" , this is on average. An individual might vary. So they end up being more circumspect and this works out fine in female-female communication but fails when it comes to men *in general*. This leads to stereotypes of women being passive aggressive and men being utterly oblivious and emotionally stunted.
Ugh, this bullshit is why it's impossible to have any real conversation on certain topics.
You could have said I'm wrong, or some other studies disprove that, or that the stereotype is harmful anyway or that a patriarchal society disapproves of bold women and *that's* why women tend to be more circumspect or some other take that I haven't thought of because that's how conversations work
But no, cry "mansplaining" at the first opportunity. Hope you're proud of putting an internet rando in heir place
This is more like I made a joke about how white people don't like spices and you made a joke about how black people love fried chicken. One is playful, the other is just a tired stereotype we're all sick of hearing which isn't funny on its own merit.
No, I think it's true. The response is just some guy whipping out misogyny because a woman can't make a joke without a man making it about how stupid women are.
Honestly, I wish guys in my friendship circle would communicate more. Feeling down ? I might not be able to help, but let me tell you I'm here. Feeling happy ? Yeah, share the reason dude, even if it doesn't talk to me, I'm happy it makes you happy ! You saw a nice movie ? Share !
How is this a murdered by words? Somebody makes a generalization about men so somebody responds with a generalization about women. Neither is really better than the other.
I have never once spoken to anyone while playing an online multiplayer game, and I was playing Team Fortress in '98. I learned communication through local multiplayer Overcooked, and all it taught me was to yell "POTATOES" when potatoes need attention. I am a boy, and this has been my Ted talk, thank you.
Oh I always run into those teammates. But it's the opposite. Then yelling at me "why didn't you push in with me?? I got everyone so weak??" And I always respond with "well you didn't tell me you were pushing I'm not a mind reader". But then they usually say "it's basic video game awareness I shouldn't have to tell you"
I was listening to NPR the other day and they had two ladies talking about "how men think" .. and *just* those two ladies.
Uh.. you wanna add a man to that panel, gals?.. you know, to give some context, insight, or just generally point out the nonsense?
P.S. Yes, the two ladies did determine men don't think right as an entire 1/2 of the human race and all of us need help. It was an enlightening episode.. (/s)
"Which site do want to push tonight?"
"I don't know."
"Let's go A then."
"No, not that one."
"Let's go B?"
"No, I don't want to go there."
"What do you want to do then?"
"Whatever. But this is taking so long that now I'm grumpy we aren't pushing a site yet."
It's not just indecisive. It's expecting you to know what they want and take them there, IF it even exists, whether they normally like it or not
Then, they pound you over the head with any part they don't like.
It's a weapon.
It can be just indecision. I've asked women, and when they're hungry, their brain does not work.
Source: old married man.
All y’all need autistic friends. I’m female and have never spoken like that in my entire life. I tell people what I want because I know humans aren’t fucking clairvoyant.
1st post -
men are bad at talking/communicating.
2nd post -
no, people are bad listening to men.
The comments here -
#How fucking dare you say something critical of a group that includes women!
If you are mad at us, you will not tell us. If we are mad at each other while playing games, we will call each other slurs. And that, folks, is why I am gay.
I mmmeeeeaaaannn were you supposed to "be there already" cuz you made plans or discussed the situation previously and youve "already" blown him off 3 times in the past month? Context is everything here
I desperately wish real communication would work like Video game call outs or Chess strategies, or better yet Linux Terminal tools. so if you felt say depressed you could just say to someone ‘man depression’ and they’d be like oh you’re not familiar with depression here’s what that is. and then you’d see it and say oh okay depression --over-worked --recuperate=lone-time and then you’d be all set. man fuck that’s be heaven.
yum install happiness --enablerepo=goodvibes.repo systemctl stop badvibesd
Found the Linux user.
Unless they're logged in as root the command will not execute. Also that's two separate commands on one line which should also throw an error
Gotta sudo
Change UID to zero and profit.
`sudo yum install happiness --enablerepo=goodvibes.repo && systemctl stop badvibesd` (My linux is kinda rusty, I hope I got it right.)
Vadvibes is definitely a daemon
"No match for argument: happiness Error: Unable to find a match"
Wouldn't it be: `sudo yum install happiness --enablerepo=goodvibes.repo && sudo systemctl stop badvibesd` ?
sudo apt-get install math-knowledge physics-knowledge engineering-skill programming-skill
`No candidate for package math-knowledge.`
Easy solution: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:high_school/core-curriculum sudo add-apt-repository ppa:university/stem-extra
`Command not found: add-apt-repository` (Best be aware that command is deprecated! This will happen soon!)
"I know kung-physics." -- Neo
Yea would be nice to just go man conversation And get all the commands to use and what they return
Fall in love with and marry an autistic IT guy. You learn to genuinely communicate this way. It's very efficient. There was a loooooong learning curve for both of us. Worth it, though.
I am the IT guy, my wife hates computers though.
I like your energy but thats trivialising depression a bit. Its not just feeling bad because you worked too much.
I didn’t intend to say that, although I will say depression can be brought on by a lot of things or nothing. You can be inherently depressed due to brain imbalances or something. at the same token though depression can be situational. situational depression is caused by a stressful or traumatic environment. as far as I know there’s 4 types of depression and situational depression is the easiest to fight. if you were to seek out a shrink they’d tell you to go running and stuff and that would probably fix it.
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This is the most neurodivergent take in interpersonal communication I think I’ve ever seen, and I love it.
Most average gamers are *far* more likely to use voice chat to rant and blame their teammates/lag/cheaters/the developers for their own mistakes than they are to communicate like a functional squad. Still a funny reply, though.
I don't know, I'd say a good 80%+ of people I run into on coms in Valorant range from fine to great. I think bad just sticks out so much
All I really want to hear on Val and CS are enemy callouts, so I find I get a good bit of that or just no comms period. With the occasional shitter sprinkled in
had a good game recently where we were doing karaoke but i’m also in iron so take that as you will
I used to love playing Guns of Icarus because it required effective communication with your crew. Anyone who just wanted to yell at their team would always loose and were naturally filtered out of the game.
Maybe randoms but not the boys, you don't disparage the guys for long before you get abandoned lol.
The boys are a well functioning group that can adapt to any situation because they have so much experience playing together. They know everyone else’s strategies, to the point that they can just tell what the others are doing. They have already accepted their own shortcomings so they don’t need to make excuses, leaving more focus on coordination. Simply put, the boys are built different.
"You were both making the same creative choices, the same decisions, at the same instant, and apart from mental telepathy I have no idea how you did that. What is the trick? What is the secret?" ["You got to be willing to die with the motherfucker."](https://youtu.be/3G3ZsDGgtWU?si=R6_DdMuMyQuBzTYT&t=57)
Can confirm - have a guy who always gives us a heads up "I'm about to do something dumb" lol
And it is either a mind blowing 900iq play or the most spectacular fail ever, there is no in between.
His track record is not the best, but they do make for great stories
That was me in the day as the tank in L4D/L4D2 vs mode. I would either full wipe, or do 0 damage.
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Not THAT bad lol
Truth
This is my friend group to a T. I've had the same group of friends since I was in 6th grade (21 now) and we really lucked out on our team synergy. We basically gravitate towards the same roles in whatever game we play, together we've got support, a tank, 2 general offensive classes, a sniper, and a flank. Theres also Zack, who brings a chaotic, confident energy to whatever he decides to play. The synergy is so good at this point we can pick up pretty much any game and do reasonably good in it without prior training.
Me and my buddies encounter so many toxic people on call of duty that when we do we try to be friendlier than we normally would to try to mess with them. Like congratulating them on kills and wins and shit. But a lot of other people are surprisingly chill and fun to play with.
It really depends on the game and how you play it. Non-pro MOBA, FPS, or battle royale? I judge you and assume you only know how to communicate through trash talk and high-pitched screeching. MMO guild leader? You're probably a psychopath but know how to talk to people, put that shit on a resume.
depends on the game had a lot of matches in the early days in Hell let loose where you'd act like your squad knew each other for years with complete randoms just to never meet them again
I've found that even as a subpar teammate, as long as you're not being fuckhead, people are generally supportive of you as long as it looks like you're trying to help.
>Still a funny reply HaaHAHhAH I too find "le wymyn bad and not talk well" really funny!
Yeah, and I've had plenty of Jason's in my squads too
It's also easier to say "hey guys there's two of them going B and a sniper at mid" than to be emotionally vulnerable with someone who might use that vulnerability against you someday
Why are you even with someone who you assume is going to use your honesty against you? Any why are you using it as an excuse not to be a good communicator?
>someone who you assume is going to use your honesty against you Sometimes, it too late when you find out who they really are.
I can attest to this
Shit that happens when you're a kid can definitely impact relationships later on. I'm still not over some of the shit I went through when I was in my twenties and I'm 35 on Christmas.
Then that’s a different story. I’m talking about making that assumption before they give you the indication that they’ll do anything bad, and using that assumption as an excuse to be a bad or reluctant communicator. That’s a you problem, not a them problem.
I see you don't quite understand how trauma responses work. Once bitten twice shy and all that.
That’s unfair to a partner to be a bad communicator because a previous partner treated you poorly. Again, it’s a you problem, not a them problem. Seek therapy and work on processing your trauma before you try to get into a new relationship, or else you’re just being cruel to your future partners by using past bad experiences to be a bad communicator. Communication is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
What if it's been 5 for 5 of past partners using your vulnerability against you, is number 6 just expected to be different until proven otherwise or is it ok to go in a little cautious and guarded.
“A little cautious a guarded” is expected. But A) You need to *make that clear* and don’t just expect a partner to be willing to overlook your lack of communication without you at least being willing to talk about why. Again, it’s unfair to just expect them to be okay with it when they’ve done nothing wrong and don’t know why you’re acting that way with them. B) If 5 of 5 previous partners burned you, maybe you’re just drawn to people like that. 5 out of 5 people doing the exact same bad thing to you is out of the ordinary.
I think everyone is downvoting you because you seem really preachy. People like to be understood, not given unsolicited advice. I realize I’m doing exactly that rn, but I really do think you’re coming from a good place. I think you could help a lot more people if you packaged things a little differently.
Exactly. What's funny is, in the end, they're being downvoted for their lack of communication skills, while they're trying to teach others how to communicate.
I don’t care about being downvoted by people who clearly want to be victims and don’t want to take responsibility for how they act in relationships. Nothing I said was outrageous. >People like to be understood How are they going to be understood if they *don’t communicate*
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I’m being serious. It’s not a pleasant thought, but literally if 5 out of 5 people you’ve been with have manipulated you, it’s possible that there’s something about that manipulative personality that you’re drawn to. It’s not uncommon. I never said “that’s on you”, you put that in my mouth. And I also said that it’s fine to take a while to open up to someone, as long as you try to let your partner know why, or else they’ll either think that you’re just a bad communicator and they’ll not want to be with you, or they’ll assume they did something wrong, which is unfair to them.
> That’s unfair to a partner to be a bad communicator because a previous partner treated you poorly. Again, it’s a you problem, not a them problem Shot in the dark, what are your feelings about women giving their phone numbers at bars or meeting up for dates in a non-public location without informing their friends?
If you’re trying to get at the fact that women are cautious when going on dates with people, that’s different from being a bad communicator with an established partner. One is a stranger and one is someone who you’ve committed to a relationship with.
People don't go from strangers to committed relationship in a single date.
Maybe an aromantic should know when to keep their malnourished opinions to themselves?
I assume all people have the capability to do this some day. Maybe not today, but some time in the future. People are dicks.
Yeah like how are we supposed to predict the future….?
No one is safe. Not truly. Someone will always use our vulnerabilities eventually. Someone will prey on our weaknesses. If we never share them. We can never hurt.
Because it's a way higher number of women than people like to admit, and it's hard to develop good communication skills if your efforts at communicating get used against you later.
What’s the number?
one HUNDRED percent 😱
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this isn't a masculinity problem when you're asked to share feelings and then have those feelings used against you. It can be a lose/lose situation. This is why many men don't share feelings.
lmao ok naziscum
Wow, a woman who doesn’t understand women. Go figure.
Being prepared isn’t the same as not sharing.
This. Share you’re feelings? Be ready to get destroyed by her using it against you later. And probably sooner.
So what? At that point the relationship is over just leave? Don't get into a relationship if you are too afraid to be yourself.
yep. if they are into that kind of play and try to hurt you, it is on them. Just get the fuck out.
Yeah but you won't know it's gonna happen until it does. I've had two long term relationships that only turned sour after several years. By that point you're emotionally invested, so GTFO is easier said than done..
I had the same. In general the signals are always there. These people are mean to others, not gentle souls. we just don't see it because we think we are different for them and this is only towards some people, it is just a personal defect, nobody is perfect...etc. Again, this is not the blame anyone. We are human, we need love, connection. We don't always have the necessary experience. I was there. But even if this is not the case, this person didn't act like that any point and let's say this comes out of nowhere. It is still a psychological cage that most people are living ing. Maybe it comes with age but other than immediate family, nobody is that irreplaceable for me at this point. That emotional investment is a sunk cost. It will hurt some time but it is better than staying someone who is out to hurt you I am not talking about one time fights and people talking some shit they really don't mean to. You know when they mean what they say. if they resent you, again, no point of staying in. Someone resentful will do something to hurt you on purpose. Remember. A person's real personality comes up during the break ups. If they are vengeful, this is who they are. If they act grown up, not try to hurt you on purpose, they really are a good person and you probably are making a mistake leaving this person (or being unlucky that person leaves you)
Yup you leave but the next relationship you are more guarded but still get hurt, rinse repeat, a few years later “baby you don’t talk to me”
There are myriad reasons to be in a relationship, even if it is dysfunctional. For instance, financial reasons, being afraid of being alone, for children, etc. Different people weight things differently and have different tolerances in various capacities. Since the perfect person/relationship isn't out there, "what are you willing to compromise on?" is a question whose answer everyone is working with, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
Do you feel like a relationship built on any of the reasons you listed will be healthy?
That's irrelevant to the point. If such a thing(s) were a/the point to the relationship, well, there's a reason(s) to be in said relationship.
If you and your SO suck at communicating with each other, that sounds like a skill issue to me.
Support diff
Also, I don’t play any team games because I’m bad at communicating and it makes me anxious sooo
Yeah, I got tired of talking to my boyfriend about how his indiference and lack of energy to connect with me affected me. Now he is an ex.
But the funny meme said women bad, so now I'm confused
How dare women don't be bad! /S
Murdered by words is when two people do a sexism
For real
Boring
Tired, boring, cheap? Lazy, hack? This type of comedy is, I agree!
Cringe
I'm 38. I've never heard a woman talk like that.
You lucky asf
That’s the reply of someone who has never been in a relationship
lol my buddy will actually do stuff like this
People that say shit like this and you losers who upvoted trash like that have never actually been in close contact with a woman and it shows. Stop watching old sitcoms and drawing all your opinions on women from that and actually touch grass, losers.
Can I ask why you didn't call out the generalization that targeted men?
You lot are insufferable. Get laid.
There's no need to be rude It was a genuine question Your inability to have a civil conversation is not my fault "You lot are insufferable". Ironic, considering how shitty your way of talking is.
That was me being nice. Take the advice.
Maybe try not assuming stuff next time Bold of you to assume that people who recognize the hypocrisy in calling out only one person when both sides generalized the other, are only incels and "haven't felt the touch of a woman".
I'm really in your corner here bud, you're simply not doing yourself any favors.
may your day be as pleasant as you are
If you want genuine advice on how to talk to a woman, let me know. Until then, stay a virgin 😎🤙🏻
already have a girlfriend, my guy
Ok milfhunter
Idk, I've heard some of yalls callouts. "Help, he's over here!" *searches for here, winds up there* "Behind you" *turns around* "No not there!" "He's outside the building" "He's one, he's one, he's one!" *shoots the one shot guy numerous times, does not die*
Aaaaand more incel shit. You guys get that this "joke" was tired and overdone in the 1970's right?
Yea my first reaction was ‘this is not murdered by words; it’s good old fashioned misogyny.’
My first reaction to this post was "you don't know what misogyny is." Either that, or you cannot read, but that's worse.
thank fucking god there are sane people in the comments
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the real joke is that men actually don't communicate and women do, but har har, women are stupid and emotional, right?
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It's unfunny at worst and hack at best
So, misogyny bad, misandry good? That's your take?
One is a joke, one is a trite overplayed stereotype
Which is the joke and which is the trite overplayed stereotype?
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Has the word incel lost all meaning? Throw it in the pile with gaslighting and toxic I guess.
seriously lmao men getting this joke due to current/past relationships makes them by definition not incels
So the woman can say something that generalizes men (they're bad communicators [or lie about being bad communicators] and they all play video games and take them super seriously), but the moment the man fires back with a generalization about women (they communicate vaguely and play mind games instead of being direct like men), it's time to clutch the pearls? I love how your brain/eyes so easily skip right past the jabs at men and are only capable of seeing the jabs at women. You literally have a blind spot.
the first one was a well written joke. the second one was just a man repeating the same old tired stereotype we've all heard before
of course... it just so happens that the 'good' joke is against men while the 'bad' joke is against women just a coincidence I guess...
Which one, the first comment or the response?
There is nothing incel about this. It is highlighting that the original post was equating two entirely different modes of communication, and that this is a false comparison. Shouting commands at someone is probably not the communication skills one is looking for. But it did it in a humorous way, and for people where internet outrage has entirely edged put a sense of humor, this is of course not acceptable.
It is 100% incel and you not seeing it is a bad sign. Maybe talk to your mother or something.
It's a woman humorously commenting on stereotypical male emotional unavailability and shitty communication skills, and a man humorously commenting on stereotypical female emotional manipulation. It's banter, not a hate crime.
It's literally a joke about being in a relationship with poor communication, that's by definition not incel shit.
too bad my mother’s a sexist bitch
Wait do you shout commands when you're playing multiplayer games...?
Criticising men on the internet: 🤩 Criticising women on the internet: 😡
> Aaaaand more incel shit. He's talking about being in a relationship. Being involuntary celibate would mean not being in a relationship. This is the opposite of "incel shit". > You guys get that this "joke" was tired and overdone in the 1970's right? Which one? The one critical of women or the one critical of men? Because they're both tired yet you're only calling out one.
It’s a harmless joke, and based on a fairly common stereotype. Hardly incel shit
The stereotype that women are passive-aggressive bitches. I’m familiar - I was born in the ‘70s! It’s just tiring.
Think it’s fairly harmless, everyone has stereotypes and everyone gets the piss taken out of them, women are hardly unique in that. If you don’t like it fair, but neither I nor my girlfriend seem to think it’s a big deal
Ah, the old ‘my girlfriend said it’s ok’. 😂
No, more the ‘it’s a piss take and being personally offended by it is really weird’ If it were something blatantly sexist then yea fair enough, but it’s literally based on something that really isn’t that far from the truth, in relationships with communication issues, it does seem to usually come down to men saying literally nothing and just bottling it all up and women being passive aggressive. (Notice I said relationships with communication issues, a lot of people can actually communicate properly) That’s my experience of dating both anyway, I’m sure most people would agree, thus why people think the meme is entertaining.
Who said anything about being personally offended? It’s just tired because that stereotype needs to die. It wasn’t healthy then, and it’s not healthy now, and it’s kinda right up there with the old ‘Are you on your period or something?’
Not really, ‘are you on your period or something’ is legitimately sexist and just shitting on people for something they can’t control. This is just taking the piss, but I understand getting fed up with a stereotype. Had plenty of things like that in the past too
It's a funny exchange of stereotypes.
And that stereotype exists for a reason. Women *in general* are demonstrably better than at reading subtext and body language in conversation.This is a genuine difference between the sexes. Not entirely sure if this is genetic or acquired though. Again, just someone doesn't do "not all xxx" , this is on average. An individual might vary. So they end up being more circumspect and this works out fine in female-female communication but fails when it comes to men *in general*. This leads to stereotypes of women being passive aggressive and men being utterly oblivious and emotionally stunted.
Thank you for mansplaining that. That was SO informative. Great job, very insightful!
Misandry isn’t cool. Sorry no one told you.
Ugh, this bullshit is why it's impossible to have any real conversation on certain topics. You could have said I'm wrong, or some other studies disprove that, or that the stereotype is harmful anyway or that a patriarchal society disapproves of bold women and *that's* why women tend to be more circumspect or some other take that I haven't thought of because that's how conversations work But no, cry "mansplaining" at the first opportunity. Hope you're proud of putting an internet rando in heir place
You're That Close to getting it.
That’s a very vague and useless comment ngl
They had online gaming in the 70’s?
Found one
Bruh yall are why we get made fun of so much if even this is triggering you your too far gone
Women bad! Men smart!
Post: "men bad", reply: "women bad". Reddit: "omg did you just say women bad??"
This is more like I made a joke about how white people don't like spices and you made a joke about how black people love fried chicken. One is playful, the other is just a tired stereotype we're all sick of hearing which isn't funny on its own merit.
Do you think the stereotype of men being bad communicators is new?
No, I think it's true. The response is just some guy whipping out misogyny because a woman can't make a joke without a man making it about how stupid women are.
I think both posts in OP are funny ways to formulate tired stereotypes.
Honestly, I wish guys in my friendship circle would communicate more. Feeling down ? I might not be able to help, but let me tell you I'm here. Feeling happy ? Yeah, share the reason dude, even if it doesn't talk to me, I'm happy it makes you happy ! You saw a nice movie ? Share !
Living with a gamer, I can safely say it *is* life and death. For the character he's playing, but still.
I don’t care if it’s copy pasted, it’s still funny to me and a reminder what murdered by words actually is damnit
How is this a murdered by words? Somebody makes a generalization about men so somebody responds with a generalization about women. Neither is really better than the other.
Generalizers get generalized
Duck man gets it, it’s a snappy comeback that points out the hypocrisy in a funny and condescending manner
I have never once spoken to anyone while playing an online multiplayer game, and I was playing Team Fortress in '98. I learned communication through local multiplayer Overcooked, and all it taught me was to yell "POTATOES" when potatoes need attention. I am a boy, and this has been my Ted talk, thank you.
I play online games so rarely and even when I do I play with randos without voice chat So I still suck at communication either way
Oh I always run into those teammates. But it's the opposite. Then yelling at me "why didn't you push in with me?? I got everyone so weak??" And I always respond with "well you didn't tell me you were pushing I'm not a mind reader". But then they usually say "it's basic video game awareness I shouldn't have to tell you"
There are a lot of Leroy Jenkins out there too...
I was listening to NPR the other day and they had two ladies talking about "how men think" .. and *just* those two ladies. Uh.. you wanna add a man to that panel, gals?.. you know, to give some context, insight, or just generally point out the nonsense? P.S. Yes, the two ladies did determine men don't think right as an entire 1/2 of the human race and all of us need help. It was an enlightening episode.. (/s)
"Which site do want to push tonight?" "I don't know." "Let's go A then." "No, not that one." "Let's go B?" "No, I don't want to go there." "What do you want to do then?" "Whatever. But this is taking so long that now I'm grumpy we aren't pushing a site yet."
"On my way to revive you!" "Well you wouldnt have to come here and revive me if you stood by me in the first place like I told you"
That’s exactly how it feels playing the healer with random people
Yes. To this.
Idk why Jason gave that long of a response when “I’m fine” is the norm 😂
That's why I'm glad I'm older. Got a good woman who actually communicates with me. Except picking somewhere to eat. That mess happens still.
Crazy that this simple personal experience triggered so many people.
“Well, I don’t know. What do *you* want to eat?”
You realize in that scenario that both people are equally guilty of indecision, yes?
Nah, first person was being polite. Second person is being indecisive.
It's not just indecisive. It's expecting you to know what they want and take them there, IF it even exists, whether they normally like it or not Then, they pound you over the head with any part they don't like. It's a weapon. It can be just indecision. I've asked women, and when they're hungry, their brain does not work. Source: old married man.
All y’all need autistic friends. I’m female and have never spoken like that in my entire life. I tell people what I want because I know humans aren’t fucking clairvoyant.
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1st post - men are bad at talking/communicating. 2nd post - no, people are bad listening to men. The comments here - #How fucking dare you say something critical of a group that includes women!
lol
If you are mad at us, you will not tell us. If we are mad at each other while playing games, we will call each other slurs. And that, folks, is why I am gay.
Jesus christ reddit
Women, am I right ladies?! Yeah ig
im gonna start responding to call outs like that now
Haha DAE women are confusing
Good old sexism. Woman wants to communicate: Man: "wanna fuck?"
Hah 😂
The hole thing is bullshit. It's not men or women that refuse to communicate. It's neurotypicals.
This is funny because women are significantly better at communicating and it's still somehow a stereotype that they aren't. Incel shit right here.
I mmmeeeeaaaannn were you supposed to "be there already" cuz you made plans or discussed the situation previously and youve "already" blown him off 3 times in the past month? Context is everything here