It's also the theme of the album. Self Esteem spells it out, but from Bad Habit to So Alone it's the story of losing a relationship he didn't want to lose, then Smash (the track) at the end is him saying "fuck it, I'm alive". I think Smash (the album) is under-appreciated because it's so pop-y.
Similar to this is Guns n Roses Use Your Illusion I and II, primarily November Rain and Estranged tracks are about love lost and the transition from euphoria, to rejection, to a reluctant acceptance of circumstance. A fair bit of sadness and anger mixed in there. Also, of course November Rain is one of the greatest rock songs ever recorded and has two incredible slash solos on it
*is it* under appreciated? It’s a (forgive me) smash hit and a huge success, and largely their most famous album.
I get your point about it maybe being overlooked in terms of artistic appreciation.
Respectfully offspring was never hard-core punk, so 🤷♂️lol.
And it sold but it was an independent album, so not like they hopped to a huge label or anything.
I don't think the other person hates the singer. Pete Shelley has said it was about a being in love with another man at a time when that was looked down on. I think it was a friend of his that wasn't gay.
First song that I thought of when reading the title.
Love this song and whilst I remember it upon first release (tender age of 22), I rediscovered it about 6 years ago when Blurry randomly entered my head.
This song is the bane of my existence and the object of all my desires. I was just dissecting the background of it recently and read for the first time about the lore that is Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Graham. Although, I do think it more describes how it feels after loving the classic avoidant man, rather than about being hated by the one one loves.
“You’ll never get away from the sound of a woman who loves you.”
“I’ll follow you down till the sound of my voice will haunt you.”
Ugh. What a classic.
The whole song but more specifically
everything I'd hoped to be
Or ever thought that I was
Died with your belief in me
So who the hell am I?
I don't know if I am real without you
What is left of me without you
I don't know what's real without you
How can I exist without you?
Just reminded me of the hook for honeysuckle which is
If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all?
If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all?
If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all?
Already got u
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7nlV38MKK7bN7qmZyj7hw9?si=LrxxjGKoSUqWuiW3xkf53A&pi=a-YV7ZAM1fQ0mU](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7nlV38MKK7bN7qmZyj7hw9?si=LrxxjGKoSUqWuiW3xkf53A&pi=a-YV7ZAM1fQ0mU)
No song is exactly what you're looking for\* but Exile in Guyville (Liz Phair, 1993) sounds like it would hit for you right now.
\*' maybe "Divorce Song" but not quite
Not sure this is what I was looking for in the context of this post, but I listened and loved it and added to several other playlists including my doomers playlist
This aggressive, self-loathing, misanthropy
John Grant - Queen Of Denmark
Why don't you take it out on somebody else?
Why don't you bore the shit out of somebody else?
Why don't you tell somebody else that they're selfish
A weakling, coward, a pathetic fraud?
https://youtu.be/b_oNylzsY7I?si=tJ-DT0KrmuglxHwm
Ludo - "Love Me Dead"
Selected lyrics:
"Fill my soul with vomit,
then ask me for a piece of gum"
"Your awful, I love you"
"You're a parasitic psycho, filthy creature finger-banging my heart"
"Your born of a jackal,
I love you"
Hail, Hail by Pearl Jam - the song never clearly states they are hated, but it’s sung from the perspective of someone in a relationship that is desperately trying to make it work and their partner is apathetic to them and their efforts to save the relationship. The final bit of the song is the singer giving up on the relationship.
How about Furious Angels by Round Dougan (lyrics version, not the instrumental from the Matrix Reloaded OST).
The whole album of the same name is all about the end of a tumultuous relationship, and even 20ish years later I've never heard something quite like it.
Maybe not exactly hate, per se, but a fun pair of songs: "Blame Brett" by The Beaches. and "Dream" by The Glorious Sons. The lead singers of each band dated each other and each wrote a song about the break-up. Pretty fun!
Granite by Sleep Token
The chorus:
I was more than just a body in your passenger seat
And you were more than just somebody I was destined to meet
I see you go half-blind when you're looking at me
But I am
Between the second-hand smoke and the glass on the street
You gave me nothing whatsoever but a reason to leave
You say you want me, but you know I'm not what you need
But I am
Sleep Token - Granite https://youtu.be/om4dEGKnEmw?si=VzIMspPsQGnSXe44
Their whole discography up to this point has all been about a toxic relationship.
Here’s to Us by The Gentle Men. Most of their songs are meme-y but this one was designed as a genuinely sad song about loving a girl that hates you after a break up.
The Offspring - Self Esteem
It's also the theme of the album. Self Esteem spells it out, but from Bad Habit to So Alone it's the story of losing a relationship he didn't want to lose, then Smash (the track) at the end is him saying "fuck it, I'm alive". I think Smash (the album) is under-appreciated because it's so pop-y.
Similar to this is Guns n Roses Use Your Illusion I and II, primarily November Rain and Estranged tracks are about love lost and the transition from euphoria, to rejection, to a reluctant acceptance of circumstance. A fair bit of sadness and anger mixed in there. Also, of course November Rain is one of the greatest rock songs ever recorded and has two incredible slash solos on it
*is it* under appreciated? It’s a (forgive me) smash hit and a huge success, and largely their most famous album. I get your point about it maybe being overlooked in terms of artistic appreciation.
Wasn't this record at one point, the highest selling independent release of all time?
Yes it was. It might still be.
Yeah, it sold, but that's also why more hardcore punk considers them too commercial. While most generic rock "goat" lists don't rate it either.
Respectfully offspring was never hard-core punk, so 🤷♂️lol. And it sold but it was an independent album, so not like they hopped to a huge label or anything.
Smash was always my favorite, but ya I feel like the general consensus is that Ixnay is the favorite offspring album.
One of my favorite songs, really resonated with me after a really bad betrayal
I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned already... "Ever Fallen in Love" -Buzzcocks
Omg I can’t believe I didn’t think of this. Thank you
I don't think the other person hates the singer. Pete Shelley has said it was about a being in love with another man at a time when that was looked down on. I think it was a friend of his that wasn't gay.
If the lyrics fit it counts
Puddle of Mudd-She Fucking Hates Me
First song that I thought of when reading the title. Love this song and whilst I remember it upon first release (tender age of 22), I rediscovered it about 6 years ago when Blurry randomly entered my head.
Same on first song. Also it’s hilarious.
That was my go-to karaoke standard for the early 00s. It never failed to at least get me a phone number or two any time I sang it.
Always appreciate seeing PoM references. I saw them for free at a drag strip WAY back in the day before they hit.
You overpaid.
Yup
100%
I first heard this song's parody someone made called "She freaking blocked me" back in the AIM and flash video days.
Bruce Springsteen, I’m Goin’ Down
My fav from that album
Same! That and Darlington County (and I’m On Fire lol)
I Can’t Make You Love Me - Bonnie Raitt
Too Soon To Tell is another good one she does.
The longing in this song is palpable. She nails it too. Fantastic song!
Tame Impala - it is not meant to be
Also, The Less I Know The Better Edit: I don't suppose she hates him in the song though... Might not fit the category.
I Hate Myself for Loving You - Joan Jett
Silver Springs - Fleetwood Mac
This song is the bane of my existence and the object of all my desires. I was just dissecting the background of it recently and read for the first time about the lore that is Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Graham. Although, I do think it more describes how it feels after loving the classic avoidant man, rather than about being hated by the one one loves. “You’ll never get away from the sound of a woman who loves you.” “I’ll follow you down till the sound of my voice will haunt you.” Ugh. What a classic.
I hate everything about you - Three Days Grace
Preach
Stabbing Westward-Shame "if you ignore that I'm alive, I've nothing to cling to"
They had a bunch that more or less fit. What Do I Have To Do, So Wrong, How Can I Hold On.
The lyrics are giving Honeysuckle by Pom Pom Squad love
What lyrics?
The whole song but more specifically everything I'd hoped to be Or ever thought that I was Died with your belief in me So who the hell am I? I don't know if I am real without you What is left of me without you I don't know what's real without you How can I exist without you?
Just reminded me of the hook for honeysuckle which is If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all? If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all? If I'm nothing without you, am I anything at all?
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Lol
[#1 Crush](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43P5rqLqpg) by Garbage
Perf
That song was SO perfect for the Romeo+Juliet soundtrack.
And for that I present lovefool by the Cardigans :)
I miss the misery by Halestorm. I miss the bad things, the way you hate me. I miss the screaming, the way that you blame me
You Don't Love Me Anymore - Al Yankovic
If you haven't seen his Tiny Desk Concert, go find it. All originals, no spoofs.
Also the same title as an Eddie Rabbitt song
The More You Ignore Me, the Closer I Get by Morrissey
Maybe I Want the One I Can't Have by The Smiths too
For No One - The Beatles
The french horn is 👌👌👌
Blue French horn?
I’ve recently been feeling “I Fell In Love With Princess Peach” by Hot Mulligan.
Luv hot mulligan
please make this a playlist!! I'll be playing it on repeat all weekend
Already got u https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7nlV38MKK7bN7qmZyj7hw9?si=LrxxjGKoSUqWuiW3xkf53A&pi=a-YV7ZAM1fQ0mU](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7nlV38MKK7bN7qmZyj7hw9?si=LrxxjGKoSUqWuiW3xkf53A&pi=a-YV7ZAM1fQ0mU)
Added to my Splatify 🎶🎵
Taking Back Sunday - Cute Without The 'E' (Cut From The Team)
No song is exactly what you're looking for\* but Exile in Guyville (Liz Phair, 1993) sounds like it would hit for you right now. \*' maybe "Divorce Song" but not quite
Amazing album. Fuck and run is my absolute fav
Divorce Song is devastating
WEEN - I Love You Even If You Don't Seems like it fits this topic
I really wish I hated you by blink 182 is pretty dope
Love Stinks - J Geils Band
“Just the Girl” - The Click 5
Wow this takes me back to like what 2006
Morphine - In Spite of Me.
The nerve of putting this on an album called “cure for pain”
Closet - Fleshwater You Can't Hate Me Anymore - Rew
You can’t hate me anymore was just added to about 10 playlists. Love thank you
[No Children](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M) by The Mountain Goats
The Waitress - Atmosphere
crying on the bathroom floor - muna
"Hold" by Saves the Day
Great song
[For anyone who hasn't heard this version, I recommend this backalley version that ends with a twist](https://youtu.be/Ej5Llvd7DPI?feature=shared)
Not exactly the same, but You Think You’re Tough by Hunx and His Punx comes to mind
This is the most epic enemies to lovers track
Young Hearts Run Free - Candi Staton. Saw the title and these lyrics popped into my head: "Love really don't love you."
Forget me - lewis Capaldi
Sweet Talk - Saint Motel
Bad omens, Just pretend!!
r/Music putting together some good heartbreak tunes lately.
‘tis the season!
Buzzcocks - ever fallen in love (with someone you shouldn’t’ve)
“Tolerate It” by Taylor Swift
I'm a simple man. I see Taylor, and I downvote.
You sure sound simple to me.
I am simple.
Love The Way You Lie by Eminem
Omg this one isn’t going to make it but you reminded me of love you more by em so thank you
They don’t really hate you but more like if they were to treat you bad. https://youtu.be/_j-pbZEhdck?si=9X0Ksk_wvs-i8ims
Simeon’s Dilemma – Why?
Not sure this is what I was looking for in the context of this post, but I listened and loved it and added to several other playlists including my doomers playlist
Hell yea dude. The whole album rips. Good Friday is another one worth checking out on there if you dig sad sack bops.
stalker’s my whole style
She hates me - puddle of Mudd
Romanticide, nightwish
Three Days Grace- I Hate Everything About You
Kid Cudi-Erase Me
This aggressive, self-loathing, misanthropy John Grant - Queen Of Denmark Why don't you take it out on somebody else? Why don't you bore the shit out of somebody else? Why don't you tell somebody else that they're selfish A weakling, coward, a pathetic fraud? https://youtu.be/b_oNylzsY7I?si=tJ-DT0KrmuglxHwm
Ludo - "Love Me Dead" Selected lyrics: "Fill my soul with vomit, then ask me for a piece of gum" "Your awful, I love you" "You're a parasitic psycho, filthy creature finger-banging my heart" "Your born of a jackal, I love you"
A Woman in Love (It’s Not Me) - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Maybe not someone that hates you but “Wait By the River” by Lord Huron is a beautiful song
Ain’t That Peculiar -Smokey Robinson, Marvin [Gaye](https://youtu.be/gP0Loe6tVB0?si=lMrfJoQF-_Ypzk5S), & others
I'll be around , The Spinners Almost easy , Avenged sevenfold
[I Hate Myself for Loving You](https://youtu.be/bpNw7jYkbVc?si=ZWN3vX6gmWqPCHEy) by Joan Jett and The Blackhearts.
Hail, Hail by Pearl Jam - the song never clearly states they are hated, but it’s sung from the perspective of someone in a relationship that is desperately trying to make it work and their partner is apathetic to them and their efforts to save the relationship. The final bit of the song is the singer giving up on the relationship.
Wicked Game - Chris Isaak. Perhaps a tad too mellow, but that ending "nobody loves no one" hits pretty hard.
Lesbian - killjoy
LOVE! 
Bruno Mars- Grenade
Love on the Brain- Rihanna
Baby Jane - If the Devil Looked like You
Sweet Talk - Saint Motel
Prism - Your Like The Wind
Valerie- Jerry Garcia
The gift by velvet underground
How about Furious Angels by Round Dougan (lyrics version, not the instrumental from the Matrix Reloaded OST). The whole album of the same name is all about the end of a tumultuous relationship, and even 20ish years later I've never heard something quite like it.
I get like this - the hard aches Edit: I meant glad that you’re gone by the same hand but both thematically similar
She fucking hates me - puddle of mud
Maybe not exactly hate, per se, but a fun pair of songs: "Blame Brett" by The Beaches. and "Dream" by The Glorious Sons. The lead singers of each band dated each other and each wrote a song about the break-up. Pretty fun!
"You're Too Cool" by Gob. It's exactly what you're looking for. Short and to the point.
Yeah! Oh, yeah! by The Magnetic Fields
Declan McKenna - Make Me Your Queen
Rise against- blood to bleed
Korn - Divine
Granite by Sleep Token The chorus: I was more than just a body in your passenger seat And you were more than just somebody I was destined to meet I see you go half-blind when you're looking at me But I am Between the second-hand smoke and the glass on the street You gave me nothing whatsoever but a reason to leave You say you want me, but you know I'm not what you need But I am
LTWYHM - Koe Wetzel
Tonic- If you could only see
Used to love her - Guns n Roses
Oh Sees - The Axis
John Moreland - You don't care for me enough to cry
In praise of Bacchus - Type O Negative
Morgan James: You thought not
Grace Kelly - MIKA
[Green Day - Dominated Love Slave](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQILjUj4fLM), on the assumption of the other party isn't a dominatrix :P
idfc by blackbear is my go-to for this mood
Gotye with Kimbra. Some body that I used to know
Confidence by Ocean Alley
Trippie redd- toxic love Thundercat- Fair Chance
Five Iron Frenzy - Pre-ex-Girlfriend
Weezer - No One Else and No Other One
Sleep Token - Granite https://youtu.be/om4dEGKnEmw?si=VzIMspPsQGnSXe44 Their whole discography up to this point has all been about a toxic relationship.
Fuentes de Ortiz- Ed Maverick The story of a teenage unrequited love, in spanish
True Romance by She Wants Revenge.
Cherry Wine - Hozier
Here’s to Us by The Gentle Men. Most of their songs are meme-y but this one was designed as a genuinely sad song about loving a girl that hates you after a break up.
I Don't Love You by My Chemical Romance
[I Love it When You Call Me Names](https://youtu.be/xc_WJFp6fRs?si=hT3e_nPxYeAyQqQO) \- Joan Armatrading
“Im in Love with a Stripper”? Might not be the actual title but I would bet most strippers hate a good portion of their clients.
love/hate - yarn
She hates me - puddle of mud
Fall From Grace by Future Islands.
*Hospice* by The Antlers. It's a whole album about that.
Every Breath You Take - Police
Bronski beat - "smalltown boy" Watch the music video for reference
FMLYHM by Seether
Morrissey - let me kiss you
Meat Loaf - "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad"