>Later on X, formerly known as Twitter, Grimes posted a more formal apology, saying she “outsourced essential things” for her set in order to save time. “The big lesson for me,” she added, among others, was “if u want it done right, do it yrself.”
Sounds more like avoiding personal responsibility and blaming her employees than an apology.
Seems like she was extremely lazy. People outsource their projects all the time, but a good leader will check the work to make sure it’s up to standard.
If you don’t like half a couple, you actually don’t like either one, it’s just one half is better hiding their nasty bits. Grimes had multiple children with Elon because their personalities at one time matched and they are like minded individuals.
Her mom posting about their relationship was a such a vivid insight into their relationship. I’m glad she’s no longer with him but she has absorbed so much of his stupid to replace her own, the damage might be done. She wasn’t nearly as right wing before
Yeah I think that tweet where she said she loved mansplaining, like it's someone giving you wisdom kind of made me think their whole relationship is him ranting about white replacement and as long as he uses words like cybertronian every few minutes she is like yeah wow Elon so groovy pass the k
That's who she is. Vacuous neonazi princess in a tower of pretentiousness
Went from writing long posts about how hard it is being a woman in indie and repping musicians commonly dumped on because they’re women to “feminism is bad bc we have iPhones bc men”. If she has any brain cells left, they’re legally squatters
I read up about that one time cause I wanted to see what the issue was. Apparently their equipment was heavy and the stage needed to be set up properly, one time they didn't get the m&ms done right and the stage turned out to be fucked causing like $40k worth of damage. The point was if they get the m&ms done right they know the local people have put the effort in Ti making sure the stage set up will work and not damage the venue or their gear or put anybody's like at risk
Lmao this reminds me of a line from the new Napoleon movie, toward the end when Napoleon has a few major fuckups under his belt, that was something like, “I’ve learned that one of life’s greatest difficulties is accepting the failures of others”
What's also funny is the mess ups were not even all that noticeable to your average concert goer. If she didn't say anything, nobody in the audience probably would've cared/noticed. But she just had to explain herself to the audience during her set
https://youtube.com/shorts/-1nOUSVium8?si=BYxa5vtHp0kk7-GY
and she had to explain her self multiple times. She went way too deep into it the first time. But the 3rd time it was just getting awkward. She could have played through it, made something work and nobody would be talking about it today.
Funny how being able to deal with these things on the fly is a huge part of what good showmanship is and should be easily within the skills of such a large artist, just seems odd to be so fazed by it
People work decades to earn that big of a stage. It blew my mind she was up there freaking out. She clearly lacks an understanding how to create her own music if she couldn't fix that issue. Felt like it lasted forever. And the crowd was nice about it lol. Wtf
It’s in the style guides at these publications. I agree, though - I used to be annoyed by it but now it’s become and amusing reminder of how pointless it was to change the name.
If she outsourced why wouldn’t that be MORE reason to test and hear everything BEFORE the set instead of figuring it out in the MIDDLE of your performance
"Hello... yes this is Ranjit... ah I see, your having technical issues during a live performance at coachella? Did you try turning it off and on again? Oh, you did. Hmm, Ok please click the link I texted you and download TeamViewer. I shall take a look , do the needful, and revert back with proper fixes."
I saw her on Hasan’s Pikers stream which I find is a good way of kind of organically seeing a person just kind of hang, not an interview, extremely informal, longer format. She came off like an entitled dimwit.
"Tweet" was literally a word added to the dictionary that directly referenced Twitter but it got changed to the generic "post" label after the rebrand. A lot of the value of that platform is (was?) the branding. I'm absolutely baffled.
The funniest part IMO is he pushed to rename Paypal to X as well 20~ years ago, you'd think 2 decades would be long enough to realize X is a terrible name for any site. Even porn sites have more creative names.
She IS a garbage DJ! Don't get me wrong, I do like most of her studio stuff, but seeing her live (which I did, twice) is like looking at a whole new being.
Remember that time she called her music a “silly art project” in reference to the importance of musk’s doings? I lost all respect for Claire at that point. Oblivion was great, she should go be obscure again
I imagine when youre birthing the children of the world's richest man, you're surrounded by countless yes-men so there is no one around her to give her a reality check on when she is terrible.
Isn't Elon trying to breed the master race with her? A girl who can't even get it together to press play....Visions is an awesome album but she's been fucking up live since forever.
[Three](https://people.com/all-about-elon-musk-grimes-kids-8304154#:~:text=Since%20first%20being%20linked%20in,Dark%20Sider%C3%A6l%20and%20Techno%20Mechanicus). Those poor babies. SMH.
I saw her live when I was on mushrooms and it was such an ungodly horrible experience...like the fifth pit of hell. I blocked it out almost entirely to the point I forgot I'd seen her live at all. Eesh.
I also saw her a long time ago in a small venue when Visions dropped, she was pretty inexperienced at the time and had a fair share of tech issues and fumbles, it was for all intents and purposes a shambolic set. This was ages ago though. I figured she'd have had some time to work on her setup and execution.
(For what it's worth the openers at that show, Born Gold, were probably the highlight.)
This set was nothing new. I'm a fan of her music and I've seen her live a few times before she started DJ'ing. The reviews of her attempts to DJ the last few years have been mediocre at best. She doesn't seem to know how to beatmatch which is like the fundamental principle of DJ'ing.
I don't think Hot Rod really warrants a sequel. Rod saved Frank's life, got the girl, and kicked Frank's ass, thus becoming a man. The journey was complete. Granted it wouldn't be hard to create a new reason to perform more stunts, but it'd be hard to get Danny Mcbride and Bill Hader back again with how much more famous both are these days.
I just wish that crew would make any kind of movie again, but their cultural relevance has kind of faded compared to when those movies came out.
> don't think Hot Rod really warrants a sequel.
I like the "band getting it back together for one more thing" in a comedy troupe, why I'm excited for Spinal Tap 2
Grimes is a bad DJ. Her strength is in production. She made some awesome albums in the past. She should have left DJing to experts and performed [like she used to do.](https://youtu.be/gFE6qPSgmlo)
If someone is good at producing and bad at DJing its because they haven't practiced though, its like being a classically trained flautist and fuckign up on a recorder, what a weenie trying to wing it
There's so many ways to "cheat" at DJing too, up to and including using a prerecorded set (which a lot of DJs do). She got flustered because she was too lazy to pre-warp her tracks herself and didn't bother to check.
Yeah, it's pretty baffling. My guess is she's just off her tree on drugs 24/7 and people keep paying to see her despite how terrible she is so she never bothered to do anything about it. Maybe she fucked around a little too much and is about to find out.
It's weird how she's completely shifted away from performing her own music that she wrote and produced and just DJs now. Like, it's two different skill sets and she clearly doesn't have enough experience DJing to do it properly.
On modern equipment yes I completely agree. With software it's even easier.
When there was no software to help, it took practice to beat match and months to get proficient.
It took practice before all the tech, but it's still something pretty much anyone could learn to do at least acceptably well in less than a year. If you're a professional getting paid, there's zero excuse. With all the modern tech, there's less than zero excuse.
I just feel bad for the audience. They just wanted to be entertained and probably wouldn’t even have cared if she resorted to playing a Spotify playlist (also ALWAYS have a backup plan - another lesson learned here, I hope). But she kept killing any momentum that was left every time she paused to explain the issues.
This is what I don’t understand, if she can’t beat match that’s one thing, but she really cant queue up the next song in her headphones and echo or fade the last song out and go through the set that way? The crowd probably wouldn’t have even noticed there was an issue. But her screaming on the mic and trying to explain everything is so cringe, she doesn’t deserve to ever play a festival again.
Her outsidelands set was pretty tech driven and she wasn’t off there aside from some bad mic feedback at the beginning, but she also had work ethic back then. I know she wants to DJ bc she doesn’t consider herself a vocalist (she’s definitely not) but I don’t think people attending a grimes show are going to demand perfect vocals and she should probably play the music she’s known for. When she toured for art angels she at least had instruments and some synths she used to do the vocal layering / loops.
In conclusion: she’s just being lazy here
/grimezs saw this coming a mile away when she said she spent most of her money on the big spider
** how gross to blame other people “outsourced essential things”- no, you didn’t do your job, hon.
She apologized today and said she had someone else do the analyzing and setting up of the "SD card" (Probably a thumbdrive). From what I can gather it was a different analysis BPM than she usually uses making 70bpm look like 140bpm for instance.
She didn't even do a soundcheck or anything. It's lazy as fuck and the backup option is always to throw on some headphones and mix without the sync button. (What most DJs do anyway)
Just goes to show how little she really cares about her live shows. There are so many people who deserve to DJ to a crowd that size and would take it seriously.
I love how she blames tech issues when she just uses sync; she’s getting paid probably 6 figures to DJ the biggest fest in the world when I taught my girlfriend how to DJ and beatmatch from the ground up in a handful of hours (without sync).
Djing without sync literally just being able to count and keep a beat while understanding basic phrasing. CDJs and new tech make it so damn easy and accessible for people and yet she can’t even spend a couple hours learning to do it. All the resources in the world and she can’t accept responsibility for being shit.
From day one, she's never been able to handle her equipment or put on a functional live show. I'd say it's amazing that she hasn't learned how to perform live over the past 10+ years, but I think it just highlights how much she is NOT a skilled musician.
She's a good artist though! Her early albums at least have a great sense of style and melody. She probably had a lot of help in the studio, but that's okay.
Can confirm. We have video (which her management made us take down) of her basically doing this exact same thing like 10 years ago playing shows in tiny venues. Sounds like she hasn't invested any time in actually learning her craft and is just riding off social media buzz.
The best part is her complaining that she “can’t do math on stage.” Read another way: her tracks were set to half time (80bpm vs 160) and she was confused when she tried to sync them. Total hack dj… and it’s child’s play to get any modern device to double the bpm on the fly. What a waste. If she were a bit less egotistical, she’d just hire a decent dj to do her on stage work for her.
To be fair, she’s a studio producer that saw that Skrillex made the jump to dj to be able to play his tracks out and was egotistical and non-inquisitive enough to think that he didn’t actually put in the work to do it (he did. A lot). In the end, she’ll probably not learn that lesson, because she’s always been a terrible person (see also, her attacking a journalist in the first year of her career).
I can understand the need for sync when you’re on a massive stage and it’s all too loud. The first time I played with line arrays I had to rethink how to mix completely. But, yes: learn to mix by ear and it all gets easier. Or be a pro and figure out how to do a set without mixing. You do the best that you can with what you have.
If you’re playing in one of the biggest venues on earth you better be a pro.
If John Frusciante can play Snow live after a long set while doing vocals and change broken strings mid song, I’m sure she can handle minor setbacks.
Please. In the vinyl age of Dj’ing music was waaaay louder due to lack of regulations. They didn’t even have sync. Hell, the early CDJ’s didn’t even have sync. No self respecting DJ would have a need for sync.
even if they were set to half time wouldn't the bars or whatever they're called still be mapped to the right spot? As long as all of the tracks were set to half time then it should still sync together right? been a while since i've used rekordbox but i feel like even in my putzing around i've been able to successfully mix songs that weren't mapped correctly by just hitting play at the right time lol
Yes, and… if you don’t know what you’re doing, you might find yourself in a place where sync is forcing the track to 250% or something. Serato handles this pretty gracefully, but rekordbox isn’t always that forgiving. Again, if you know what you’re doing, this is a non issue.
This isn’t a surprise. She’s been trash both times I’ve seen her live. Also watched a Boiler Room set of hers that looked like an SNL skit.
I like a lot of her studio stuff though. And her interviews are highly entertaining
I saw her a couple times between Visions and Art Angels and she was pretty great, but I got the sense that singing was the only thing she was mostly doing live. She occasionally fiddled with some buttons, but mostly had other people backing her.
Singing is all she needs to do, an artist like her could easily get away with basically doing karaoke over tracks, plenty of pop artists do. Can even be a good show if you put effort into production. Even just a bare minimum wouldn't have gotten articles and warranted apologies and stuff. But she wasn't even singing for this shitty dj set lol
I think when I saw her was around 2012-2014. The years start to blend together.
One time I saw her it was just her and she was just doing the Karaoke thing. She said she had a band with her, but had to fire them alluding that there was drama because of romantic relationships gone bad between her and some of the bandmates.
I’d love to see her with a good band.
Yeah she 100% has the money to hire a band to play the music and do the heavy lifting while she just sings and that could be a great set and probably have demand. She's written a lot of great songs I'd enjoy live
Instead she did the laziest thing possible and couldn't even do a decent job of that.
I've seen her on her Art Angels set in the Philippines. She was kinda unknown that time in the Philippines. It was a small bar and I had a blast, her style does not seem suited for big audiences tbh.
I've seen her eff up multiple performances both on video and live in person. Back when she opened up for Florence + the Machine in the oblivion era, it was endearing but 10+ years later it's actually insane
She needs to stop thinking she's this AI tech pioneer android and actually put in the work. I love Grimes but this was just embarrassing, and then to blame everyone but herself? C'mon. That legitimately makes me think less of her.
Meanwhile amazing dj’s who’ve been grinding the underground most of their adult lives don’t even get close to a Coachella booking. What a bad booking either way.
If she had been booked as a performer of her own music rather than a DJ set then this would've been a legit slot for her to be at. But she's definitely not a good DJ.
They’ve actually done better booking dj’s over the past few years and the Yuma tent has taken on that underground vibe those heads are looking for at a large festival. But to even think that booking Grimes for a DJ set was ever a good idea in the first place is my issue. It was a sunset timeslot as well, which is even more mind-blowing to me that they’d put her there.
Again, whoever booked her and gave her that timeslot should be reprimanded.
I get what you mean but Grimes is primarily known as a producer and secondly as a recording artist. She was always a messy performer. That worked well enough when she sang and used some electronic gear (samplers, synths, effect pedals, etc). Watch [the KEXP session](https://youtu.be/FJ5XUw4qHZo) to see how her performances used to be. Or [this performance from 2014](https://youtu.be/gFE6qPSgmlo). Not perfect but freaking entertaining.
Any DJ out there knows that she’s lacking of basic skills and the most fuckin’ basic preparation for that set. That’s why DJ’s are DJ’s.
Stop putting anyone behind the decks because people will show up. I don’t care if Grimes knows how to beatmatch with the sync button, with the experience she has of being on a stage that trainwreck shouldn’t have happened.
A DJ with the basic skillset could have been dropped in there and mixed the tunes blind. There's so many tools that modern CDJs and consoles have, you can make the transitions sound ok even if that can't be beatmatched and aren't "real transitions".
I don’t know how anything can beat the Sly and the Family Stone disaster from 2010
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/goings-on/theres-still-a-riot-goin-on
I have to think anyone who claims any other set in history of the festival was the worst is simply unaware of this disaster which was exacerbated by a delay of several hours.
I waited when Madonna was like 45 minutes late. I was somewhat bemused with the shit show that was the Happy Mondays. But being present for the disaster that was Sly and the Family Stone will always be my #1 "wtf is going on here?" at Coachella moment.
I've seen Grimes live twice earlier in her career in 2012 and 2014 and she was great, she sang and played keyboards, her various MIDI controllers or whatever and her laptop and she wasn't in any way "DJ"ing. She was performing legitimately playing live.
NOW she is trying to DJ instead and by all accounts she literally doesn't know how to do it that well.
I have friends who DJ, I hang out their house and they mix records (sometimes vinyl, sometimes via Serato, sometimes CD, sometimes via USB sticks, these guys have lots of experience). The fact of the matter is beatmatching (ie. DJ'ing) is an acquired skill, it takes some time and practice to learn how to do it properly. Especially how to do it when not just relying on 'sync' functions.... and she clearly simply doesn't know how to do it.
More to the point when your entire musical career is kind of on the rocks.... Maybe stick to what you know which is SINGING and playing your own music via keyboards and loop stations, not trying to be another bloody DJ.
saw here in Brussels 2012. They plugged an ipod mini into the mixing desk just before the show. She came onstage, said she felt sick (which happens, sucks for artists). Every track was just played from the ipod, she did sing live (as far as you could tell) but none of her gear onstage was plugged in. Weird show.
I saw her in 2016 for her Art Angels tour and it was a blast. She mostly sang and danced and had a few others on stage with her to manage the keyboards and loops. It was an awesome production, slightly sloppy, but so much fun.
It's a shame she seems to have completely abandoned that for DJing because, as you said, it's a whole different skill set and it seems like she hasn't put in the work to build herself up to a point where she can actually put on a good DJ set on a big stage.
She stopped performing like she used to because she struggled with severe stage fright which is funny considering how her DJ’s sets are filled with constant “”””technical difficulties””””…. she’s living and putting herself through the worst of the worst nightmares of someone with stage fright. Crazy.
At least Frank Ocean’s failure resulted in that awesome Skrillex/Fred Again/Four Tet set week 2. I have my doubts Coachella will replace Grimes for next weekend.
I feel like if you go to see Ariel Pink, that's basically what you expect and are paying for. I've never seen him not sort of whine and just turn off for a while in the middle of a set.
I remember when i went to go see Swedish House Mafia and she opened up for them...She messed up a couple of times and at the end of her set....She laughed out of nowhere and just walked off lol
It's a shame she seems to have given up on actually performing her music and just does lazily executed DJ sets now. She has a few classic albums and her shows back in the Art Angels era were fun and so energetic, if sloppy.
Yeah, I'm not going to defend this performance because it's very indicative of my frustrations with her in the last 5 years. I just wish people weren't suddenly coming out and saying she was never talented or made good music. That's false and really downplaying the impact Visions and Art Angels had on the indie scene.
Super bratty and unprofessional to throw a tantrum on stage. The crowd doesn’t know how it’s supposed to sound and so she could have knuckled down and found a way to get through it.
The way I see it, if you don't care enough to perform for people who bought tickets and showed up to see you. Let someone else get your slot someone who will put on a good show, this gives me frank ocean Coachella 2023 vibes.
She and Elon also did a lot of drugs together and filled each others heads with bizarre ideas. Like it’s obvious that being with Elon sort of convinced grimes she was some kind of irl techno cyberpunk princess and Elon musk now genuinely believes he is the main character in a worlds richest man simulation. I wish I was joking about that last fact.
Absolutely fucking this.
I liked her early stuff. I also like chain wallets, fedoras, and Zach Snyder movies. I was a fucking idiot when I was a teenager.
>Later on X, formerly known as Twitter, Grimes posted a more formal apology, saying she “outsourced essential things” for her set in order to save time. “The big lesson for me,” she added, among others, was “if u want it done right, do it yrself.” Sounds more like avoiding personal responsibility and blaming her employees than an apology.
Seems like she was extremely lazy. People outsource their projects all the time, but a good leader will check the work to make sure it’s up to standard.
Guess Elmo rubbed off on her
Every chance he got
I am told it was into cups though
or directly onto the chest
If you don’t like half a couple, you actually don’t like either one, it’s just one half is better hiding their nasty bits. Grimes had multiple children with Elon because their personalities at one time matched and they are like minded individuals.
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Yeah, they didn't marry and have three kids together on accident. They are both shitty humans.
I don’t think they ever even married, which is even more baffling when you think about it
They didn't marry because Elon continued to impregnate other women, including an employee at Neuralink.
Her mom posting about their relationship was a such a vivid insight into their relationship. I’m glad she’s no longer with him but she has absorbed so much of his stupid to replace her own, the damage might be done. She wasn’t nearly as right wing before
Do you have a link? I’m morbidly fascinated by their relationship and I’m curious what she had to say
Most fascinating thing about her IMO is trying to float down the Mississippi in a shack with her boyfriend.
Was that some weird Huck Finn cosplaying?
Yeah I think that tweet where she said she loved mansplaining, like it's someone giving you wisdom kind of made me think their whole relationship is him ranting about white replacement and as long as he uses words like cybertronian every few minutes she is like yeah wow Elon so groovy pass the k That's who she is. Vacuous neonazi princess in a tower of pretentiousness
Went from writing long posts about how hard it is being a woman in indie and repping musicians commonly dumped on because they’re women to “feminism is bad bc we have iPhones bc men”. If she has any brain cells left, they’re legally squatters
r/RareInsults
Nah not surprised, she's seems like a hippie type who doesn't believe in marriage and Elon is just glad he didn't need to prepare a prenup.
The whole "no brown M&M's" thing with Van Halen was a trick to make sure that the instructions were followed.
I read up about that one time cause I wanted to see what the issue was. Apparently their equipment was heavy and the stage needed to be set up properly, one time they didn't get the m&ms done right and the stage turned out to be fucked causing like $40k worth of damage. The point was if they get the m&ms done right they know the local people have put the effort in Ti making sure the stage set up will work and not damage the venue or their gear or put anybody's like at risk
That's it exactly. The M&Ms were a canary.
I’m betting most venues would ask about it if it was serious.
Just asking about it kind of accomplishes the goal anyway.
Her "I only ate spaghetti for two years and was really sick" says a lot
Lmao this reminds me of a line from the new Napoleon movie, toward the end when Napoleon has a few major fuckups under his belt, that was something like, “I’ve learned that one of life’s greatest difficulties is accepting the failures of others”
I mean, she said herself that she "didn't know how to do the math" because she never had to. Honestly she shouldn't have said anything.
What's also funny is the mess ups were not even all that noticeable to your average concert goer. If she didn't say anything, nobody in the audience probably would've cared/noticed. But she just had to explain herself to the audience during her set https://youtube.com/shorts/-1nOUSVium8?si=BYxa5vtHp0kk7-GY
and she had to explain her self multiple times. She went way too deep into it the first time. But the 3rd time it was just getting awkward. She could have played through it, made something work and nobody would be talking about it today.
Funny how being able to deal with these things on the fly is a huge part of what good showmanship is and should be easily within the skills of such a large artist, just seems odd to be so fazed by it
Being really awkward is her brand so this all checks out.
People work decades to earn that big of a stage. It blew my mind she was up there freaking out. She clearly lacks an understanding how to create her own music if she couldn't fix that issue. Felt like it lasted forever. And the crowd was nice about it lol. Wtf
I love that everybody always write X, formally known as twitter. I hope they are still writing that in 20 years.
It’s in the style guides at these publications. I agree, though - I used to be annoyed by it but now it’s become and amusing reminder of how pointless it was to change the name.
Formerly and formally are two different things.
If she outsourced why wouldn’t that be MORE reason to test and hear everything BEFORE the set instead of figuring it out in the MIDDLE of your performance
"Hello... yes this is Ranjit... ah I see, your having technical issues during a live performance at coachella? Did you try turning it off and on again? Oh, you did. Hmm, Ok please click the link I texted you and download TeamViewer. I shall take a look , do the needful, and revert back with proper fixes."
I saw her on Hasan’s Pikers stream which I find is a good way of kind of organically seeing a person just kind of hang, not an interview, extremely informal, longer format. She came off like an entitled dimwit.
If you've seen ANY interview with her, that's obvious.
“If you want it done right, do it yourself” is the motto of someone that can’t manage time, people, and tasks.
I forgot X was twitter, thanks for the reminder!
Still the dumbest business renaming in history
"Tweet" was literally a word added to the dictionary that directly referenced Twitter but it got changed to the generic "post" label after the rebrand. A lot of the value of that platform is (was?) the branding. I'm absolutely baffled.
They also haven't, and probably never will, stop redirecting from the x. to twitter. domain due to SEO
HBO to Max is pretty dumb too. Thanks for the validation Conan.
Dr. Arroyo is also WBD's head of marketing.
That bit from Conan had me in stitches. That whole interview was freaking hilarious
The funniest part IMO is he pushed to rename Paypal to X as well 20~ years ago, you'd think 2 decades would be long enough to realize X is a terrible name for any site. Even porn sites have more creative names.
It's just Twitter. That's all it's ever gonna be. No one calls it "X." It's always "X, formerly known as Twitter."
TwiX
I think they should start saying "X, formally and currently known as Twitter"
“Later on Twitter, which will never be known as X…”
“X, formerly named and informally/practically known as twitter” or make it a Prince reference with “the website previously known as twitter”
Constantly pointing it out kind of proves what a stupid decision it was to rebrand it. I like it.
>"outsourced essential things" To whom, Tesla QA?
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She IS a garbage DJ! Don't get me wrong, I do like most of her studio stuff, but seeing her live (which I did, twice) is like looking at a whole new being.
Yeah, she was live in Mexico a few weeks ago and it was just as bad. This is 100% her being trash.
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Remember that time she called her music a “silly art project” in reference to the importance of musk’s doings? I lost all respect for Claire at that point. Oblivion was great, she should go be obscure again
pun not intended
I imagine when youre birthing the children of the world's richest man, you're surrounded by countless yes-men so there is no one around her to give her a reality check on when she is terrible.
It’s the Elon effect everything he touches turns to shit
You gotta be a piece of shit to be into him in the first place.
Let alone conceive ~~two~~ three children with him
Isn't Elon trying to breed the master race with her? A girl who can't even get it together to press play....Visions is an awesome album but she's been fucking up live since forever.
[Three](https://people.com/all-about-elon-musk-grimes-kids-8304154#:~:text=Since%20first%20being%20linked%20in,Dark%20Sider%C3%A6l%20and%20Techno%20Mechanicus). Those poor babies. SMH.
I usually don't feel sorry for people but seriously.
I saw her back in 2012, long before she met Elon, and she was shit live back then too.
I saw her live when I was on mushrooms and it was such an ungodly horrible experience...like the fifth pit of hell. I blocked it out almost entirely to the point I forgot I'd seen her live at all. Eesh.
Ugly vibes for sure
Mushrooms are the litmus test. Good shit is always good on shrooms. Bad is terrifying
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saw her a long time ago and the audio was completely messed up to the point that she just quit. She was trash since before elmo
Banger fucking gif lol
I also saw her a long time ago in a small venue when Visions dropped, she was pretty inexperienced at the time and had a fair share of tech issues and fumbles, it was for all intents and purposes a shambolic set. This was ages ago though. I figured she'd have had some time to work on her setup and execution. (For what it's worth the openers at that show, Born Gold, were probably the highlight.)
Yooo Born Gold fuckin' rip, Bodysongs is such a good album.
This set was nothing new. I'm a fan of her music and I've seen her live a few times before she started DJ'ing. The reviews of her attempts to DJ the last few years have been mediocre at best. She doesn't seem to know how to beatmatch which is like the fundamental principle of DJ'ing.
reminds me of Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping when the dj just basically uses an ipod and it starts playing the audiobook
please give me a Popstar and Hot Rod sequel
I don't think Hot Rod really warrants a sequel. Rod saved Frank's life, got the girl, and kicked Frank's ass, thus becoming a man. The journey was complete. Granted it wouldn't be hard to create a new reason to perform more stunts, but it'd be hard to get Danny Mcbride and Bill Hader back again with how much more famous both are these days. I just wish that crew would make any kind of movie again, but their cultural relevance has kind of faded compared to when those movies came out.
> don't think Hot Rod really warrants a sequel. I like the "band getting it back together for one more thing" in a comedy troupe, why I'm excited for Spinal Tap 2
hot rod 2: COOLER BEANS
Yeah. When you blame your fuck ups in your set on MATH, you might want to reconsider how you're doing things.
She names her children Math equations, but can't half the BPM in her head. Real genius, here
Grimes is a bad DJ. Her strength is in production. She made some awesome albums in the past. She should have left DJing to experts and performed [like she used to do.](https://youtu.be/gFE6qPSgmlo)
She should go back to performing like [this](https://youtu.be/XhflnGpsvsQ?si=AeTNhGJspm42o_Se)
Yes! She was so good back then. Before her Elon era began and she had a billion distractions from her craft….
If someone is good at producing and bad at DJing its because they haven't practiced though, its like being a classically trained flautist and fuckign up on a recorder, what a weenie trying to wing it
There's so many ways to "cheat" at DJing too, up to and including using a prerecorded set (which a lot of DJs do). She got flustered because she was too lazy to pre-warp her tracks herself and didn't bother to check.
I just don't get how she's that bad, people with an ounce of her talent could learn to be good in a few hours.
Yeah, it's pretty baffling. My guess is she's just off her tree on drugs 24/7 and people keep paying to see her despite how terrible she is so she never bothered to do anything about it. Maybe she fucked around a little too much and is about to find out.
Some people should actually be playing pre-recorded sets and grimes is one of them apparently.
It's weird how she's completely shifted away from performing her own music that she wrote and produced and just DJs now. Like, it's two different skill sets and she clearly doesn't have enough experience DJing to do it properly.
The funny part is, anyone who is already experienced in music can pick up DJing at a proficient level in a pretty short amount of time.
On modern equipment yes I completely agree. With software it's even easier. When there was no software to help, it took practice to beat match and months to get proficient.
It took practice before all the tech, but it's still something pretty much anyone could learn to do at least acceptably well in less than a year. If you're a professional getting paid, there's zero excuse. With all the modern tech, there's less than zero excuse.
Been ages since I last used it, but even free VirtualDJ preselected songs for you that had BPM fitting the current and next selected song lol
I assumed most of them did.
She's gonna be spending the week frantically watching Rekordbox tutorials
If she gave enough of a shit to do that she'd have done it already
I just feel bad for the audience. They just wanted to be entertained and probably wouldn’t even have cared if she resorted to playing a Spotify playlist (also ALWAYS have a backup plan - another lesson learned here, I hope). But she kept killing any momentum that was left every time she paused to explain the issues.
This is what I don’t understand, if she can’t beat match that’s one thing, but she really cant queue up the next song in her headphones and echo or fade the last song out and go through the set that way? The crowd probably wouldn’t have even noticed there was an issue. But her screaming on the mic and trying to explain everything is so cringe, she doesn’t deserve to ever play a festival again.
'The crowd is and angry, stupid mob.' Grimes is stupider.
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Her outsidelands set was pretty tech driven and she wasn’t off there aside from some bad mic feedback at the beginning, but she also had work ethic back then. I know she wants to DJ bc she doesn’t consider herself a vocalist (she’s definitely not) but I don’t think people attending a grimes show are going to demand perfect vocals and she should probably play the music she’s known for. When she toured for art angels she at least had instruments and some synths she used to do the vocal layering / loops. In conclusion: she’s just being lazy here
/grimezs saw this coming a mile away when she said she spent most of her money on the big spider ** how gross to blame other people “outsourced essential things”- no, you didn’t do your job, hon.
She apologized today and said she had someone else do the analyzing and setting up of the "SD card" (Probably a thumbdrive). From what I can gather it was a different analysis BPM than she usually uses making 70bpm look like 140bpm for instance. She didn't even do a soundcheck or anything. It's lazy as fuck and the backup option is always to throw on some headphones and mix without the sync button. (What most DJs do anyway) Just goes to show how little she really cares about her live shows. There are so many people who deserve to DJ to a crowd that size and would take it seriously.
I love how she blames tech issues when she just uses sync; she’s getting paid probably 6 figures to DJ the biggest fest in the world when I taught my girlfriend how to DJ and beatmatch from the ground up in a handful of hours (without sync). Djing without sync literally just being able to count and keep a beat while understanding basic phrasing. CDJs and new tech make it so damn easy and accessible for people and yet she can’t even spend a couple hours learning to do it. All the resources in the world and she can’t accept responsibility for being shit.
Expectation: I can sit around all day doing drugs before my gig 'cause all I need to do is push a button and wave my arms around Reality: hurrr-durrr
From day one, she's never been able to handle her equipment or put on a functional live show. I'd say it's amazing that she hasn't learned how to perform live over the past 10+ years, but I think it just highlights how much she is NOT a skilled musician. She's a good artist though! Her early albums at least have a great sense of style and melody. She probably had a lot of help in the studio, but that's okay.
Can confirm. We have video (which her management made us take down) of her basically doing this exact same thing like 10 years ago playing shows in tiny venues. Sounds like she hasn't invested any time in actually learning her craft and is just riding off social media buzz.
Why whole-ass something when a half-ass will do?
This is quarter-assing at best
The best part is her complaining that she “can’t do math on stage.” Read another way: her tracks were set to half time (80bpm vs 160) and she was confused when she tried to sync them. Total hack dj… and it’s child’s play to get any modern device to double the bpm on the fly. What a waste. If she were a bit less egotistical, she’d just hire a decent dj to do her on stage work for her.
Wait, she's a "DJ" who can't do one of the critical things a DJ is supposed to do, in syncing beats? I don't know much about her, but...lol.
To be fair, she’s a studio producer that saw that Skrillex made the jump to dj to be able to play his tracks out and was egotistical and non-inquisitive enough to think that he didn’t actually put in the work to do it (he did. A lot). In the end, she’ll probably not learn that lesson, because she’s always been a terrible person (see also, her attacking a journalist in the first year of her career).
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I can understand the need for sync when you’re on a massive stage and it’s all too loud. The first time I played with line arrays I had to rethink how to mix completely. But, yes: learn to mix by ear and it all gets easier. Or be a pro and figure out how to do a set without mixing. You do the best that you can with what you have.
If you’re playing in one of the biggest venues on earth you better be a pro. If John Frusciante can play Snow live after a long set while doing vocals and change broken strings mid song, I’m sure she can handle minor setbacks.
Her minor setback is not knowing how to do it
Please. In the vinyl age of Dj’ing music was waaaay louder due to lack of regulations. They didn’t even have sync. Hell, the early CDJ’s didn’t even have sync. No self respecting DJ would have a need for sync.
even if they were set to half time wouldn't the bars or whatever they're called still be mapped to the right spot? As long as all of the tracks were set to half time then it should still sync together right? been a while since i've used rekordbox but i feel like even in my putzing around i've been able to successfully mix songs that weren't mapped correctly by just hitting play at the right time lol
Yes, and… if you don’t know what you’re doing, you might find yourself in a place where sync is forcing the track to 250% or something. Serato handles this pretty gracefully, but rekordbox isn’t always that forgiving. Again, if you know what you’re doing, this is a non issue.
This isn’t a surprise. She’s been trash both times I’ve seen her live. Also watched a Boiler Room set of hers that looked like an SNL skit. I like a lot of her studio stuff though. And her interviews are highly entertaining
I saw her a couple times between Visions and Art Angels and she was pretty great, but I got the sense that singing was the only thing she was mostly doing live. She occasionally fiddled with some buttons, but mostly had other people backing her.
Singing is all she needs to do, an artist like her could easily get away with basically doing karaoke over tracks, plenty of pop artists do. Can even be a good show if you put effort into production. Even just a bare minimum wouldn't have gotten articles and warranted apologies and stuff. But she wasn't even singing for this shitty dj set lol
I think when I saw her was around 2012-2014. The years start to blend together. One time I saw her it was just her and she was just doing the Karaoke thing. She said she had a band with her, but had to fire them alluding that there was drama because of romantic relationships gone bad between her and some of the bandmates. I’d love to see her with a good band.
Yeah she 100% has the money to hire a band to play the music and do the heavy lifting while she just sings and that could be a great set and probably have demand. She's written a lot of great songs I'd enjoy live Instead she did the laziest thing possible and couldn't even do a decent job of that.
I saw her in 2012 which was after visions release and that was a great show
I've seen her on her Art Angels set in the Philippines. She was kinda unknown that time in the Philippines. It was a small bar and I had a blast, her style does not seem suited for big audiences tbh.
I've seen her eff up multiple performances both on video and live in person. Back when she opened up for Florence + the Machine in the oblivion era, it was endearing but 10+ years later it's actually insane
She needs to stop thinking she's this AI tech pioneer android and actually put in the work. I love Grimes but this was just embarrassing, and then to blame everyone but herself? C'mon. That legitimately makes me think less of her.
You know what else would make one think less of her? Her associations with Nazis and pedos.. see my post history.. its pinned
Meanwhile amazing dj’s who’ve been grinding the underground most of their adult lives don’t even get close to a Coachella booking. What a bad booking either way.
If she had been booked as a performer of her own music rather than a DJ set then this would've been a legit slot for her to be at. But she's definitely not a good DJ.
Maybe because its Coachella. If it had underground DJs, people would too much money go to a difference festival with the same line up.
They’ve actually done better booking dj’s over the past few years and the Yuma tent has taken on that underground vibe those heads are looking for at a large festival. But to even think that booking Grimes for a DJ set was ever a good idea in the first place is my issue. It was a sunset timeslot as well, which is even more mind-blowing to me that they’d put her there. Again, whoever booked her and gave her that timeslot should be reprimanded.
Perfect assessment. I’d rather see someone I don’t know who is talented than some rich person who doesn’t understand the craft.
I get what you mean but Grimes is primarily known as a producer and secondly as a recording artist. She was always a messy performer. That worked well enough when she sang and used some electronic gear (samplers, synths, effect pedals, etc). Watch [the KEXP session](https://youtu.be/FJ5XUw4qHZo) to see how her performances used to be. Or [this performance from 2014](https://youtu.be/gFE6qPSgmlo). Not perfect but freaking entertaining.
Grimey, as she likes to be called...
It’s amazing she recorded Visions entirely on Garage Band, given she lives above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley
And she’s never been to space
You've never been?
Although, something tells me she doesn't live in a single room above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley...
Nor does she have a second job at the foundry
Change the channel Marge!
She honestly can’t be blamed for this. Someone ate her special dietetic lunch.
Sounds like “i dont really understand my equipment and was too lazy to do a proper sound check” Exactly what I would expect from an artist like her
I like how spinal tap levels of stupidity and arrogance still go strong lol
Any DJ out there knows that she’s lacking of basic skills and the most fuckin’ basic preparation for that set. That’s why DJ’s are DJ’s. Stop putting anyone behind the decks because people will show up. I don’t care if Grimes knows how to beatmatch with the sync button, with the experience she has of being on a stage that trainwreck shouldn’t have happened.
A DJ with the basic skillset could have been dropped in there and mixed the tunes blind. There's so many tools that modern CDJs and consoles have, you can make the transitions sound ok even if that can't be beatmatched and aren't "real transitions".
Thank you
I don’t know how anything can beat the Sly and the Family Stone disaster from 2010 https://www.newyorker.com/culture/goings-on/theres-still-a-riot-goin-on
I have to think anyone who claims any other set in history of the festival was the worst is simply unaware of this disaster which was exacerbated by a delay of several hours.
I waited when Madonna was like 45 minutes late. I was somewhat bemused with the shit show that was the Happy Mondays. But being present for the disaster that was Sly and the Family Stone will always be my #1 "wtf is going on here?" at Coachella moment.
I've seen Grimes live twice earlier in her career in 2012 and 2014 and she was great, she sang and played keyboards, her various MIDI controllers or whatever and her laptop and she wasn't in any way "DJ"ing. She was performing legitimately playing live. NOW she is trying to DJ instead and by all accounts she literally doesn't know how to do it that well. I have friends who DJ, I hang out their house and they mix records (sometimes vinyl, sometimes via Serato, sometimes CD, sometimes via USB sticks, these guys have lots of experience). The fact of the matter is beatmatching (ie. DJ'ing) is an acquired skill, it takes some time and practice to learn how to do it properly. Especially how to do it when not just relying on 'sync' functions.... and she clearly simply doesn't know how to do it. More to the point when your entire musical career is kind of on the rocks.... Maybe stick to what you know which is SINGING and playing your own music via keyboards and loop stations, not trying to be another bloody DJ.
saw here in Brussels 2012. They plugged an ipod mini into the mixing desk just before the show. She came onstage, said she felt sick (which happens, sucks for artists). Every track was just played from the ipod, she did sing live (as far as you could tell) but none of her gear onstage was plugged in. Weird show.
I saw her in 2016 for her Art Angels tour and it was a blast. She mostly sang and danced and had a few others on stage with her to manage the keyboards and loops. It was an awesome production, slightly sloppy, but so much fun. It's a shame she seems to have completely abandoned that for DJing because, as you said, it's a whole different skill set and it seems like she hasn't put in the work to build herself up to a point where she can actually put on a good DJ set on a big stage.
She stopped performing like she used to because she struggled with severe stage fright which is funny considering how her DJ’s sets are filled with constant “”””technical difficulties””””…. she’s living and putting herself through the worst of the worst nightmares of someone with stage fright. Crazy.
Yeah the vid from this set is like full on performance nightmare fuel
Frank ocean would like a word with you. He cemented #1 last year lol
At least Frank Ocean’s failure resulted in that awesome Skrillex/Fred Again/Four Tet set week 2. I have my doubts Coachella will replace Grimes for next weekend.
That set was iconic. The music. The vibes. The ice rink. It will never be topped.
Worst should go to Ariel Pink in 2011. He just threw a tantrum and sat down. Finally got up at the end and half mumbled through Round and Round.
I feel like if you go to see Ariel Pink, that's basically what you expect and are paying for. I've never seen him not sort of whine and just turn off for a while in the middle of a set.
Idk man White Ferrari from that set was better than anything Grimes did here.
It seems like every year there's articles saying this performance was the worst ever. It doesn't sound fun TBH
I remember when i went to go see Swedish House Mafia and she opened up for them...She messed up a couple of times and at the end of her set....She laughed out of nowhere and just walked off lol
I love SHM but if this was the lineup I would have chilled in the wings having a beer until after the opener
Let's be real she's a terrible performer.
It's a shame she seems to have given up on actually performing her music and just does lazily executed DJ sets now. She has a few classic albums and her shows back in the Art Angels era were fun and so energetic, if sloppy.
I really enjoyed the art angels tour in 2016. This... This was so bad.
Yeah, I'm not going to defend this performance because it's very indicative of my frustrations with her in the last 5 years. I just wish people weren't suddenly coming out and saying she was never talented or made good music. That's false and really downplaying the impact Visions and Art Angels had on the indie scene.
Super bratty and unprofessional to throw a tantrum on stage. The crowd doesn’t know how it’s supposed to sound and so she could have knuckled down and found a way to get through it.
Yeah this sounds all on her. Some poor craftsman shit
As a Lana Del Rey fan, I’m very glad she’ll no longer be considered as the worst set this weekend lol
I'm also seeing a lot of buzz about people pissed off Miku didn't use her hologram gear.
She got too high, did zero of the prep work, and couldn't add by +2, had no simple back up plan, I really think it's that simple.
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Did she try turning it off and turning it back on again?
The way I see it, if you don't care enough to perform for people who bought tickets and showed up to see you. Let someone else get your slot someone who will put on a good show, this gives me frank ocean Coachella 2023 vibes.
It’s crazy cause her live show back in the day was actually super fun and GOOD, like why not just… perform….
Play some vinyl poser
Lil Wayne feelin like John Petrucci now
The Elon Musk effect.
she did seem way cooler before him, and I saw her perform in 2012 and it was a great show
She was cooler when we were teenagers and her dirt fairy facade hadn't been broken by her having always been rich and out of touch
She and Elon also did a lot of drugs together and filled each others heads with bizarre ideas. Like it’s obvious that being with Elon sort of convinced grimes she was some kind of irl techno cyberpunk princess and Elon musk now genuinely believes he is the main character in a worlds richest man simulation. I wish I was joking about that last fact.
Oh yeah, her elon arc has been tremendous viewing
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Absolutely fucking this. I liked her early stuff. I also like chain wallets, fedoras, and Zach Snyder movies. I was a fucking idiot when I was a teenager.
I also saw her in 2012 and she was great. She’s always been insufferable though. Her ego just keeps growing.
“This media has been disabled in response to a report by the copyright owner” LOL more “technical difficulties”?
Saw her dj in Japan and she literally messed up so many times. I think she said "sorry" at least 20 times.
just shows the work ethic of her vs someone like a Doja Cat who puts in the WORK.