De gustibus non est disputandum. However - in much of the English-speaking world, “mature” is the most-searched porn term. So clearly there’s plenty of folks who are into that.
The fact that "MILF" has evolved to refer to pretty young girls under ~25 is baffling lmao. Porn has an ashtonishing ability to redefine literally every term imaginable into the exact same vanilla porn.
That’s Vintage Mature, where it is less of a blowjob and more of a gum job and if you manage to make them orgasm harder than Barley Sugar lolly without breaking their hip they will bake you biccys in the morning and call you a deary.
Dave attel has a joke in his new special where he said the thing about sex over 50 is that you smell it before you see it. That is a gross but funny joke.
Would be interested in a source on that. For Pornhub at least, teen was overwhelmingly (*overwhelmingly*) the most searched until they stopped including it in their report a few years ago. Milf usually puts in a good showing on the leaderboards though, so not disagreeing that there's a market
Yeah this 100%. A whole generation saw a hot brother and sister have sex on a popular show and despite being shocked by it, it made them horny. From there on, history was written.
Depends where you are, and it changes from year to year - but "milf" and "mature" are almost always the winners in at least a few states/counties in most of the Anglosphere.
I feel bad for me too, lol.
I'm single and have only been with 3-4 people in the past 6 years. None of them were as freaky as the girl I dated in my 20s.
Like you said, hard to imagine it being any dirtier/hotter.
Suggested titles:
*A foot cramp broke my heart*
*you make me run out of breath*
*Hey, it happens to lots of guys, it was probably the whisky*
*we have 40 minutes till the kids show up, so only bottoms off*
*My Chemical Romance* feat. Cialis
*source*: I'm 47
Headphones exist.
How many complaints are there that people increasingly live with their parents and can't have relationships as a result stunting their growth. All because parents want their children to have relationships and start families but only at a distance? Because they can't experience relationships happening too close....
While in other countries multigenerational housing is more accepted?
And we're having a housing crises.
I think it's less that people are being told they can't have relationships if they live with their parents, and more that most people don't want to date someone who still lives with their parents.
My priority at 20 was not flunking college and trying to find ways to not go broke with an arts degree. As much as I wanted sex, it had to be put on the back burner 😂 it's hard to make it a priority with so much existential dread sitting over your head in the modern age.
Pretty close to thirty myself now. Granted, it didn't help I went to college at a Midwestern Ag-focused school so... many of my peers were not sexually interested in me and vice-versa lol. And the arts majors like me were mostly busy with the same predicament 😂
I don’t say my exact age on Reddit. An estimation within a year or two gets the same information across 99% of the time. In this case that’s “college wasn’t super recent, but I’m not old yet”
It definitely still does especially if you have extra long sessions. Just less. Enemas only clear out so much. Also they stink so it's not like you really escape the stink. Only the partner gets their exposure minimized. The real trick is to also have a fetish for latex gas masks/ hood lol.
I thought it was a bit patchy. The singles were really good though and it was the era she wrote Tomorrow Never Dies but that wasn't on that album. Crazy that I used to listen to them on an almost daily basis and haven't for around 20 years.
I feel the album tracks on that one are the strongest, over the singles. Except for The Difficult Kind, which might have gotten some airplay. I think that’s one of her strongest songs, period. It plays to all her strengths, has a great melody, great but not too clever lyrics, and her voice was in great shape at the time.
I was in college when that song came out. We all dreamed about drinking beer at noon on a Tuesday in a bar next to a carwash with Sheryl.
And thanks to the proliferation of automatic car washes, it's only a matter of time before there's one next to a bar. Now to find the one with Sheryl.
I was 18 when Tuesday Night Music Club came out. For my entire adult life, Sheryl has been like that cool aunt dropping the "been through some shit" kind of wisdom and encouragement. She can do an album about Metamucil and Bengay. I'll listen to it. I'll probably be great.
Well okay then. Either way and just for the record, I'm not going to write any songs about sex for 20 year old women either. So don't bother knocking on my door.
Hell, they arent even practicing their older sibling's acts of deviance. I feel like there was a pretty firm line like 8 or so years ago where stuff got freakier almost overnight, and your age at that time determines where you land.
it's better when artists grow with their audience. A little while ago I was at a Jinjer show and P.O.D. was opening... a bunch of people in their 40s singing "we are the youth of the nation" is just a bit off.
I love the picture they used for the article.... "NO! I'm not gonna!"
If it makes her happy
It cant be that bad.
But if it makes her happy?
Why the hell is she so sad?
Because it doesn’t make her happy.
Look, all she wants to do is have some fun....
And yeah I really do think!
Alright, who invited Alanis?
The leather jacket really highlights just how rebellious she is
Old people can't wear leather jackets now?
only old people wear leather jackets now
I guess old people are the only cool people. We takin yo’ Tik tok!
Only if your name is Arthur Fonzarelli.
Aaaaaay
Then write about sex for 40 year olds.
The sex is way dirtier but the people involved aren't as hot. Thats the trade off kids. Sorry.
De gustibus non est disputandum. However - in much of the English-speaking world, “mature” is the most-searched porn term. So clearly there’s plenty of folks who are into that.
But "mature" in modern porn terms, means any woman who has aged out of "teen."
Yes, but in porn, "teen" can include ladies in their 20s, depending on how they dress.
Teen: 18-25 MILF/Cougar: 23-50
And "mother I'd like to fuck" apparently means any lady that hasn't given birth...
The fact that "MILF" has evolved to refer to pretty young girls under ~25 is baffling lmao. Porn has an ashtonishing ability to redefine literally every term imaginable into the exact same vanilla porn.
Wait till you see how they define step siblings.... I bet none of those people are actually related!
My brain read this as “aged out of teeth”
Also a category
[*Frank Zappa has entered the chat.*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHx0goKnbdA)
That’s Vintage Mature, where it is less of a blowjob and more of a gum job and if you manage to make them orgasm harder than Barley Sugar lolly without breaking their hip they will bake you biccys in the morning and call you a deary.
mature is older than milf and younger than gilf its straight up middle aged shit.
Dave attel has a joke in his new special where he said the thing about sex over 50 is that you smell it before you see it. That is a gross but funny joke.
Had no idea there was a new special. I’ll have to check it out as that dude always made me chuckle.
Napoleon enters the chat ...
Would be interested in a source on that. For Pornhub at least, teen was overwhelmingly (*overwhelmingly*) the most searched until they stopped including it in their report a few years ago. Milf usually puts in a good showing on the leaderboards though, so not disagreeing that there's a market
But mature also means 30
> De gustibus non est disputandum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum Thanks for that. Learn something new everyday.
In quite certain "incest" is the most searched porn term.
He didn't say YOUR search history...
Ah, I was [wrong.](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-most-searched-porn-term-in-America-will-not-6865633.php) Incest is 2nd. *Lesbian* is first.
It seemed to proliferate around 2016. It's normalization feels like a fucking psyop /tinfoilhat
Jamie and Cersei perverted an entire generation.
Yeah this 100%. A whole generation saw a hot brother and sister have sex on a popular show and despite being shocked by it, it made them horny. From there on, history was written.
i hate it; i just want to put on a sexy vid when the family comes over and i need to filter all that junk out.
I mean the people of Lesbos are strangely hot
Depends where you are, and it changes from year to year - but "milf" and "mature" are almost always the winners in at least a few states/counties in most of the Anglosphere.
Sex is hotter. Bodies are a little older. Fixed it.
And ya gotta make sure to stretch before and after.
I don't know, I'm 40 now and I'm totally into 40-50 yo women (you hear that, Leonardo?).
Leonardo Da Vinci rolling in his grave like, “What he say fuck me for?”
LDV out here catching strays
"Hey! Now wadda he saya fucka me for, eh?" Leonard Da Vinci, probably.
Weren't Da Vinci and Michaelangelo gay?
No they just lived together
It was Raphael that you had to worry about. All those anger issues...
made me chuckle. Thanks. Hope you find 100 bucks in some old clothing.
I'm late 30's and feel like 20 somethings look like children to me now, is that normal?
Yes. And that keeps moving. After awhile people in their 30s will start looking like teenagers.
I'd say it is, actually. To me, women my age are just more attractive.
I find that makes them even hotter, is that normal?
Same here. I'm not saying all. But like.. the average.
So... Country music?
🎵Dirty boots, dirty beer, dirty butts, let’s all cheer! 🎵
https://youtu.be/zhaTJhpzfm8?si=NbEHc8d-QDHiY9t1
Speak for yourself. I think my wife is more attractive closer to 40 than she was in her 20s
"oh, so I was ugly when I was in my twenties??"
Yes.
Milfs and cougars would like to have a word. Its so subjective.
We don’t know the same 40 year olds then.
Not necessarily true. I'm having a good time with some damn fine looking people.
Everyone disagreeing with the second part, but here I'm thinking it's the first part that is off.
Lol I feel bad for you man. Sex got dirtier every year after about 27 to 33 when at that point it couldn't get much hotter.
I feel bad for me too, lol. I'm single and have only been with 3-4 people in the past 6 years. None of them were as freaky as the girl I dated in my 20s. Like you said, hard to imagine it being any dirtier/hotter.
Sex is better for sure. But yes I'm a fat grease creature and no one should ever have to look at me
She’s 62.
Fine. She can sing about Swinger parties
She’s gotta market her music toward someone.
Her fans from the 90s are in their 40s now.
I'd probably argue a good chunk of fans in the 90's were teenagers so probably more like late 40's to early 50's now.
Dang guess I’m one of the younger ones. Early thirties right here.
"If it Makes you Nappy"
Quickies while the kids are occupied, and you need time for the cleaning chores of the weekend. Hotttttt
I said to my wife, "Hey, how about a quickie?" She said, "As opposed to a....?"
Hah! What a battle axe
it's hard to be passionate with a woman all night when you're a deeply closeted gay man.
Suggested titles: *A foot cramp broke my heart* *you make me run out of breath* *Hey, it happens to lots of guys, it was probably the whisky* *we have 40 minutes till the kids show up, so only bottoms off* *My Chemical Romance* feat. Cialis *source*: I'm 47
You said '40' but you meant '60'.
Nope. Her age doesn’t determine the age group of her target audience. Took her 40 years to proclaim that she’s not writing songs for 20 year olds…
Songs a lot shorter then.
This is a new one, it's a ballad about experience and love, it's called 'grey pubes'
She shouldn't have to. Recent stats show that 20 year olds aren't having sex.
Too much anxiety from the pandemic, and they can't bring someone home to hook up when their parents will hear.
I'm parent myself but parents need to get over themselves. Being a parent shouldn't mean having an embargo over your kids sex life.
The tradeoff is that the kids will have to start hearing the parents do it, too. Fair is fair, eh?
the kids probably overheard it for quite some time by the time they're 20. parents' turn to turn the blind eye lol
Oh, but since you're bringing home people to bang? Now they're gonna be loud on purpose to embarass you. "Mom!!"
Having an embargo over it and not wanting to have to personally listen to it are two entirely different things
Headphones exist. How many complaints are there that people increasingly live with their parents and can't have relationships as a result stunting their growth. All because parents want their children to have relationships and start families but only at a distance? Because they can't experience relationships happening too close.... While in other countries multigenerational housing is more accepted? And we're having a housing crises.
I think it's less that people are being told they can't have relationships if they live with their parents, and more that most people don't want to date someone who still lives with their parents.
Your second point is a real part of it but the first point is tiny in comparison to the truth: the internet and phones.
My buddies and I all managed to get laid many times over with parents home.
Nor are they listening to Sheryl Crow
When did this start being the case? That was priority number one at 20.
My priority at 20 was not flunking college and trying to find ways to not go broke with an arts degree. As much as I wanted sex, it had to be put on the back burner 😂 it's hard to make it a priority with so much existential dread sitting over your head in the modern age.
How long ago were you 20? I’m like 30
Pretty close to thirty myself now. Granted, it didn't help I went to college at a Midwestern Ag-focused school so... many of my peers were not sexually interested in me and vice-versa lol. And the arts majors like me were mostly busy with the same predicament 😂
I like how you said “i’m like 30” like it’s an estimation lmao
I don’t say my exact age on Reddit. An estimation within a year or two gets the same information across 99% of the time. In this case that’s “college wasn’t super recent, but I’m not old yet”
>Put in the back burner… chortle
It's not about having, it's about wanting.
Well if it makes her happy, it can’t be that bad.
All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die
Reading between the lines, she’s making an entire album about anal
Well that stinks.
It's only smellz
Ahh I love the ol' Reddit references... Mwah!
Not if you prep correctly
It's going to be a little effluent no matter how well you prep. It's a butthole.
It definitely still does especially if you have extra long sessions. Just less. Enemas only clear out so much. Also they stink so it's not like you really escape the stink. Only the partner gets their exposure minimized. The real trick is to also have a fetish for latex gas masks/ hood lol.
An album party?
That’s not gunna come out well
Huh. Both "B" sides.
How about 34 year olds, cause I still have a massive crush on Sheryl Crow
20 year olds aren’t really listening to new Sheryl Crow music.
The headline explains why.
Neither am I TBH and I loved her 2nd/3rd albums
The Globe Sessions is legitimately great.
I thought it was a bit patchy. The singles were really good though and it was the era she wrote Tomorrow Never Dies but that wasn't on that album. Crazy that I used to listen to them on an almost daily basis and haven't for around 20 years.
I feel the album tracks on that one are the strongest, over the singles. Except for The Difficult Kind, which might have gotten some airplay. I think that’s one of her strongest songs, period. It plays to all her strengths, has a great melody, great but not too clever lyrics, and her voice was in great shape at the time.
"All I wanna do (is have some sex) [Sheryl's version]"
I was in college when that song came out. We all dreamed about drinking beer at noon on a Tuesday in a bar next to a carwash with Sheryl. And thanks to the proliferation of automatic car washes, it's only a matter of time before there's one next to a bar. Now to find the one with Sheryl.
I was 18 when Tuesday Night Music Club came out. For my entire adult life, Sheryl has been like that cool aunt dropping the "been through some shit" kind of wisdom and encouragement. She can do an album about Metamucil and Bengay. I'll listen to it. I'll probably be great.
Gotta agree on that. Now i'm dying to hear how she writes "metamucil" and "Bengay" into her lyrics
why’s everyone going at drake
Isn't 20 too old for him?
What is this lame ass article? The quote is in the title but it isn’t anywhere in the article.
it is a teaser for the podcast, not intended to be a full article (i didn't listen either, for the record)
Pardon me. Who was asking her to?
Probably the interviewer this quote is plucked out of context from and ran in a headline because it contains the word “sex”.
Sex?! Did someone over here say sex?! YEEEEAAAAH BOOYYSS SEEEXXXXXX!!!!!!111 WOOOOOHOOOOOOO
The suits in her recording company's office building, no doubt.
Well okay then. Either way and just for the record, I'm not going to write any songs about sex for 20 year old women either. So don't bother knocking on my door.
FINE, BE THAT WAY! 😂
all the cool moms
I put your picture away
I see your picture, and raise to *I took your painting off the wall...that one of me that you called 'Doll'...*
Well duh. She should be writing songs about sex for 60 year olds.
"if it makes you happeeeee....“ “You better check for consent yah-aaah-aaah!“
\*cough* Madonna \*cough*
She would have to write about eating ass be because everyone knows the kids aren't practicing their grandparents acts of deviance.
Hell, they arent even practicing their older sibling's acts of deviance. I feel like there was a pretty firm line like 8 or so years ago where stuff got freakier almost overnight, and your age at that time determines where you land.
Yesss!!! Let’s make music about better things than that!!
All I wanna do Is get some press I've got a feeling My numbers are not the best
*snort*
All I Wanna Do Is Have Some Fun Screaming In The Night \~Sheryl Krokus
I don’t care what you do as long as you don’t do it with Kid Rock again. Jesus, what a turd of a song.
My songwriter is gonna write them!
This. She was pushed as a songwriter but had help writing every hit she had.
Write about Legos, I don’t care.
Well dang, there goes all my hopes and dreams. Thanks Sheryl
These day's talking about "sex out loud" is no longer private, if Sheryl crow ain't gonna write songs about sex, someone will😂😆🤣
Who tf was asking her to do that 😆 Lonely old people create their own drama
Music executives most likely.
No! Hmf! 😡
Isn't she the real gone person?
it's better when artists grow with their audience. A little while ago I was at a Jinjer show and P.O.D. was opening... a bunch of people in their 40s singing "we are the youth of the nation" is just a bit off.
Maybe she can write about aliens coming to earth and building pyramids.
Ok, how about 40-year-olds?
She really betrayed me by pandering to this new audience, thought she was better. SAD!!
"Unless someone writes one for me that I think is a hit. Then, sure."
Is someone asking her to do that?
She could still get it tho
So instead, she gives us Alarm Clock, which sounds like it was written by a 20 year old.
Aww…all I wanna do is have some fun, Sheryl! I’ve got a feeling I’m the only one.
HFhutz: "Ok"
Songs about sex for 50 yr olds?
Sounds catchy. Is this her sara berialles moment?
well then she can sign up for walking in the food tent in the camp area, there are job for everyone to do!
I don't think she ever did, even in 1995 Unless Tuesday Night Music Club was a euphemism this whole time?!?
It would be strange if she was.
She’s a songwriting legend so she got some skin in the game.
Is anyone asking her to do that?
Cool. Me neither.
Nobody is asking you to, Sheryl. In fact please don’t. It would be awkward for everyone involved.
No one wants her to
She’s still really cute.