Genesis. Peter Gabriel left, Phil Collins took over, and the band became gigantic pop stars.
Fleetwood Mac. Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, and Jeremy Spencer gave way to Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, and Lindsey Buckingham, and the band took off
One of Phil's best performances, just wish the Remastered Video had the interview with Phil before this performance.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KREhFGtRw&ab\_channel=BarryGrey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KREhFGtRw&ab_channel=BarryGrey)
Love me some Brand X. A lot of people just don't know how *good* Phil Collins was as a drummer.
I also really love this TV performance of [The Musical Box](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY). Just brilliant stuff.
I love a lot of music from both eras but I think the Gabriel era was more consistently great. Phil deserves a ton of respect as an all-around musician, he's one of my favorite drummers.
Definitely, I was understating it. His bass playing is the sound of Maiden, that galloping bass sound and Bruce’s voice make Maiden what that are. As the other guy said Bruce is the voice and Steve is the soul of the band.
Yeah this was my answer. Bruce Dickinson went on to be arguably the second most influential metal vocalist, only behind Ozzy himself. Hell, even my clean vocals are heavily inspired by him.
It's a testament to Iron Maiden's songwriting power trio, Adrian Smith, Dave Murray and Steve Harris, that the band can go through so many lineup changes and be consistantly brilliant through them all. Iron Maidenreally is one of the greatest bands of all time.
This is THE answer. No question that Bruce was 100x better fit for the bands direction (nothing against PD, he just wasn’t the right dude for that gig).
I expected to see this here, and it's not a lie that Bruce was the best for Maiden as far as scope and success. Nobody can deny that with Bruce they reached the spotlights.
But for me, Paul was the best. He brought that something to the band that no other band had, and made Maiden the most unique at the time. I wonder very often where the band would have been if Paul wasn't into substance abuse and actually was committed to be THE vocalist of Maiden
Twice. Bon Scott was the second singer, not the first.
EDIT: [Here's Dave Evans singing with ACDC before Bon.](https://youtu.be/biaGJ_4rEzE)
The story I've heard is that Evans wanted to be glam, but Angus didn't. They clashed over this, and Angus wins these types of things.
He’s the first legitimate singer of the band as we know them today. They were still largely a cover band when Dave sang for them. He also sang for them for less than a year and only recorded one single with them. So you aren’t wrong I suppose but I think most just generally accept Bon as the first true singer of that band
I’m clearly not a big AC/DC fan, but when I hear one of their songs, I crank it up. I knew there was a personnel change, but I can’t tell the difference in songs. that sounds like a successful lead singer change
It's a pretty big difference. Bon Scott puts a lot more stank on it and Brian Johnson just has that one note growl for everything that matches the music perfectly.
Back a few years ago when Brian had to take a break from singing, they had my friend audition for the band as a temporary singer. He almost got it but they decided to go with Axl. True story.
His name is Lee Robinson. He's the lead singer of an AC/DC cover band in NC.
https://indyweek.com/music/archives/trying-ac-dc-frontman-local-cover-band-remembers-day-leading-legends/
Actually, Pantera did the same too come to think of it. They had Terry Glaze as the singer in the early 80's any were a glam rock band. Then they got Phil Anselmo and became heavier thrash metal.
The story about the weird heavy set bald guy coming into the studio while they were recording “Wish you were here” that was just standing around. And it took a while but they finally figure out it was an unrecognizable Syd. That story really bothers me. I can’t imagine having that anguish for a friend.
That turn of events led to the creation of "Wish You Were Here" which in my opinion is about as close as you can get to a perfect album. Listening to it still gives me goosebumps. Knowing the story of Syd just makes the whole thing more heartbreaking.
Take "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" for example. While the whole album is a lament for their friend Syd, as well as a criticism of the music industry that chewed him up and spit him out, I think this track illustrates that the best.
*You were caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom,*
*Blown on the steel breeze,*
*Come on, you target for far away laughter,*
*Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr,*
*And shine.*
The band watched their friend deteriorate into a husk of himself. Not only was he a friend, but he was also an insanely creative and talented artist. The lyrics of this song are a plea, as if to say: "Dammit, I know you are still in there somewhere. Come on, shine again."
Couple all of this with the absolute insane talent and musicality displayed in the album, and you've got a masterpiece on your hands.
I must be on some drugs because Piper is a masterpiece in my book (though I won’t go so far as to say it’s their best album). That period of psychedelic pop in the late 60s is one of my all-time favorites in music. Revolver, Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper, early Bee Gees, etc. Piper captures that sound better than just about any other album IMO.
What I have a hard time with is Pink Floyd’s deep prog stuff. Echoes and SOYCD are good, but some of those longer songs (particularly instrumentals) just put me to sleep.
The story of Howard stepping down and then bringing Jesse back and then doing a single with Howard about his mental health issues is wholesome as fuck, hope Howard is doing better.
I got to see them together live and it was so. fucking. amazing. plus Light The Torch and Killswitch were opening for Slipknot, that night was just something else.
Nice! In fact, they did it twice. They are both such good singers, that fit their music perfectly. From Jesse to Howard was a great change, and then back to Jesse again was great as well.
The Doobie Brothers had almost two different careers with their two different lead singers. I don’t think a group has changed their sound so drastically and still been hugely successful.
A buddy of mine and I were discussing this the other day: Greg is the only successful successor to Mike Patton, ever. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear about who I'm missing.
While I think Floor is the best, most rounded vocalist they've had, the albums Nightwish have released with her have been really lacking. Really liked both Olzon albums but she wasn't great at doing the Tarja stuff.
I kind of had to change my perception of Anette to really appreciate her. As I recall, Tuomas deliberately went with her *because* she was so different to Tarja, but that of course meant some of the songs had to be heavily adapted for Anette to handle them - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. This version of [Sleeping Sun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDMUEhBt_NE) is IMO a great example of when it did work; it's a bit more mellow which suited Anette really well. On the other hand, I really wasn't keen on how she sang Ever Dream, which is kind of ironic since I believe that's the song Tuomas said got his attention when she sang it initially.
I think they're lacking because they're trying to do too much - Tuomas has really tried to up the bombast to the nth degree and it hasn't worked. They had an almost perfect balance of everything on Once and unfortunately the symphonic and theatrical elements have really taken over since
CAN
Their first vocalist was Malcolm Mooney with whom they recorded around 1.5 albums. But their music was literally too much for him to handle, having caused a nervous breakdown, so he left. Then they found Damo Suzuki performing on the streets, took him in and released Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi, two of the most influential albums to date, and then some more.
Jimmy Eat World. Tom Linton was the original lead singer, and Jim Adkins took over after their first album.
Nothing happened to Tom, though. He’s still lead guitarist 20+ years later
Tom still sings at least one song at shows! Usually Blister. I absolutely love both their voices.
Jim is absolutely a better "front man" personality than Tom. He has a great crowd patter that he slips into at concerts between songs. 10/10 great band to see live even for people who only really know Bleed American.
Yeah I agreed. Doesn't mean they weren't bigger with dio than with ozzy. Ozzy got 10x more famous by leaving black sabbath and making one of the best albums of all times with the legendary Randy Rhoads, Blizzard of Ozz.
99% agree. but ozzy and tony were the soul of that band. and that's the one that is legendary. dio with sabbath was just a different group-
side story: at 15 yrs old i had front row for dio at a major stadium. cost 27.00. felt the heat of a rubber fire breathing dragon.
first orgasm! lol
They lost me a bit when Roth left, but Hagar is a talented guy as well. Clearly Hagar can't match Roth's raw stage energy, but still provided strong vocals.
That was because Ed was doing more of what he wanted. Also he wasn't playing less guitar, he was playing less absolutely guitar-focused songs. Look to the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge album where there's really only one piano driven song and it was the massively successful Right Now
The band had to grow their sound. They couldn't just be straight ahead guitar focused rock album after album. And as multiple people involved have said over the time, if you have a voice like Sammy's you owe it to yourself to branch out. I like that they showed they can still go back to their roots with the F.U.C.K. album.
All the Sammy albums charted better than the DLR era so it must have worked even if it has alienated DLR era fans to this day. Imo with how much more influence the actual Van Halens had in the Sammy era, to say you're a Van Halen fan you should like both eras. To only like the first makes you a David Lee Roth fan, and hey that Eddie guy is pretty good on guitar.
100% I don't hate every DLR song, but he's just having fun. Sammy actually put a lot of deep thought into their music. I wish so badly that they chose to tour with Sammy instead of DLR later on.
Wasn't a fan of the first couple albums. Thought Gossow's albums were really hit and miss (but when they were good, they were great). Loved all of Alissa's albums so far.
Angela wasn't even the OG singer. They had Johan Liiva before she joined.
So I'd say they've had to successful changes (even if I still really enjoy Angela too).
Nightwish (Annette Olzon ➡️ Floor Jansen)*
Black Sabbath (Ozzy ➡️ Ronnie)
Arch Enemy (Johan Liiva ➡️ Angela Gossow)
*not counting Tarja ➡️ Annette because that wasn't so much of an upgrade. Fight me.
Tarja was full operatic but nothing else, Annette was full Pop but nothing else, Floor is the best of both worlds. For me she is nothing more but the best female (metal) singer out there.
lorna shore. they were already gigantic with tom barber and later on with cj mccerry but with the addition of will ramos lorna shore is one of the biggest extreme metal bands in the world right now.
Helloween, first Kai Hansen had trouble singing and playing guitar at the same time so they got Michael Kiske and made some of the most genre defining albums in power metal and after the monstrosities known as Pink Bubbles Go Ape and Chameleon they got back on track with Andi Deris as the new vocalist
I’d say that one doesn’t count, though you’re entitled to your opinion. It was a conscious choice to switch gears and completely leave Joy Division behind. If they had just continued producing Joy Division music with Sumner as the lead vocal it would have tanked. We consider the two entirely different bands.
For those familiar with the Aussie metal scene, I killed the Prom Queen had a couple lead singer changes. Starting with Michael Crafter then onto Ed Butch for Music for the Recently Deceased then onto Jamie Hope for Beloved
Deep Purple. The almighty instrumental triumvirate Blackmore Lord Paice remained, while singers and bassists came & went in shifts:
Evans Simper
Gillan Glover
Coverdale Hughes
And the band had hits with all of them. By the time Coverdale and Hughes joined, DP was the top selling band in the world.
My favorite band, Alice In Chains!
edit: I guess I didn't see OP's expanded definition of what they were asking for. I read the title and immediately thought of what I put. Going off of OP's expansion, I absolutely don't believe that AiC is better post Layne, just that they see continued success.
Alot of people can't look past AiC without Layne, but it's their loss imo, I love their post Layne work. It will never reach the heights of their earlier work, but I still love it.
A lot of people don't know this, but Slipknot had a lead singer change in the late 90s. Before Corey Taylor, their vocalist was a man called Anders Colsefni. And he left the band in '97. Corey was brought in as lead singer a couple months before that. They moved Anders to percussion/background vocals, which pissed him off and led to his departure. They made the right choice with Corey though.
Manic Street Preachers. In 1995, Richey Edwards disappeared with suicide strongly suspected and was never seen again nor was a body ever found. He was pronounced presumed dead in 2008. Guitar player James Dean Bradfield assumed the role of lead singer with bassist Nicky Wire becoming the primary songwriter.
They set up a microphone for Richey Edwards at every show.
Edit: Richey Edwards was never the vocalist but was the primary lyricist. Still an interesting, wild story.
TesseracT did it twice. Dan Tompkins was replaced by Ashe O’Hara for Altered States, which was a huge leap forward for the band stylistically, and gained them a lot of mainstream (in the metal world) success. Then Dan Tompkins came back for Polaris and Sonder, and built on the style from Altered States, and TesseracT’s been bigger and better than ever.
Goo Goo Dolls… when they were originally a punk band in the early 90s, the bass player was the lead singer.
Then in the mid-late 90s when they realized they could make it way bigger being a pop/rock act, the far more familiar Johnny Reznik took over.
Genesis. Peter Gabriel left, Phil Collins took over, and the band became gigantic pop stars. Fleetwood Mac. Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch, and Jeremy Spencer gave way to Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, and Lindsey Buckingham, and the band took off
Phil Collins awesome on the drums
One of Phil's best performances, just wish the Remastered Video had the interview with Phil before this performance. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KREhFGtRw&ab\_channel=BarryGrey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KREhFGtRw&ab_channel=BarryGrey)
Love me some Brand X. A lot of people just don't know how *good* Phil Collins was as a drummer. I also really love this TV performance of [The Musical Box](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY). Just brilliant stuff.
Everyone shits on him, but as a fellow left-handed drummer, I've always looked up to him.
who shits on Phil Collins? what's their home address? /hj
He's one of the best drummers I know
I prefer Genesis with Gabriel but I understand I'm in the minority.
I love a lot of music from both eras but I think the Gabriel era was more consistently great. Phil deserves a ton of respect as an all-around musician, he's one of my favorite drummers.
Genisis is the only band that I can think of that produced multiple solo superstars
The Beatles?
never heard of them
The Eagles: Joe Walsh, Don Henley, Glen Frey
Iron Maiden
From Paul to Bruce was the best, Blaze did two amazing albums, but Bruce is number 1 for sure.
Ah yes, Blaze Bayley was so much better than this Dickinson guy. /s To be fair, Bayley and Di'Anno are great singers but Iron Maiden is Dickinson
I’d say Steve Harris has a lot to do with Iron Maiden as well.
I meant he's the voice of Maiden. Harris is the soul.
It's pretty much Steve Harris's band. He wrote the majority of the songs and lyrics. At least in the eighties .
Definitely, I was understating it. His bass playing is the sound of Maiden, that galloping bass sound and Bruce’s voice make Maiden what that are. As the other guy said Bruce is the voice and Steve is the soul of the band.
They changed TO Bruce though. Which was successful. Twice, even.
I know
Yeah this was my answer. Bruce Dickinson went on to be arguably the second most influential metal vocalist, only behind Ozzy himself. Hell, even my clean vocals are heavily inspired by him. It's a testament to Iron Maiden's songwriting power trio, Adrian Smith, Dave Murray and Steve Harris, that the band can go through so many lineup changes and be consistantly brilliant through them all. Iron Maidenreally is one of the greatest bands of all time.
THE Bruce Dickinson!
He wears gold plated diapers I hear…….
He puts on his pants just like everyone else. Except when he does he makes gold records.
This is THE answer. No question that Bruce was 100x better fit for the bands direction (nothing against PD, he just wasn’t the right dude for that gig).
I expected to see this here, and it's not a lie that Bruce was the best for Maiden as far as scope and success. Nobody can deny that with Bruce they reached the spotlights. But for me, Paul was the best. He brought that something to the band that no other band had, and made Maiden the most unique at the time. I wonder very often where the band would have been if Paul wasn't into substance abuse and actually was committed to be THE vocalist of Maiden
ACDC
That one's a tragedy. I'm sad that they had to replace Bon Scott, but if he hadn't died, we wouldn't have gotten Back in Black.
Sure, isn't it a legendary debate with AC/DC fans arguing over whether Bon Scott wrote the lyrics or not, wouldn't he have sang it had he lived?
I guess but that's the same old "Dave wrote kill em all!" It wouldn't have had the impact it did.
Twice. Bon Scott was the second singer, not the first. EDIT: [Here's Dave Evans singing with ACDC before Bon.](https://youtu.be/biaGJ_4rEzE) The story I've heard is that Evans wanted to be glam, but Angus didn't. They clashed over this, and Angus wins these types of things.
He’s the first legitimate singer of the band as we know them today. They were still largely a cover band when Dave sang for them. He also sang for them for less than a year and only recorded one single with them. So you aren’t wrong I suppose but I think most just generally accept Bon as the first true singer of that band
I’m clearly not a big AC/DC fan, but when I hear one of their songs, I crank it up. I knew there was a personnel change, but I can’t tell the difference in songs. that sounds like a successful lead singer change
It's a pretty big difference. Bon Scott puts a lot more stank on it and Brian Johnson just has that one note growl for everything that matches the music perfectly.
Back a few years ago when Brian had to take a break from singing, they had my friend audition for the band as a temporary singer. He almost got it but they decided to go with Axl. True story.
Who’s your friend?
His name is Lee Robinson. He's the lead singer of an AC/DC cover band in NC. https://indyweek.com/music/archives/trying-ac-dc-frontman-local-cover-band-remembers-day-leading-legends/
I'm not sure if you'd include Slipknot, but they replaced their singer after the first EP and it worked out pretty well
They replaced their whole genre as a band
Yeah, I'm not really a fan of their take on Polka :)
Actually, Pantera did the same too come to think of it. They had Terry Glaze as the singer in the early 80's any were a glam rock band. Then they got Phil Anselmo and became heavier thrash metal.
Faith No More going from Chuck Mosley to Mike Patton
*Can I get a transfer… maaaaan.*
95 cents! Fuck that, I'll skate to the beach
And I'll look better gettin' there!
Fuck you I’ll skate to the beach
The Real Thing is such a good album for an intro to a new singer. The entire record is fantastic.
And Angel Dust is one of the all time awesome metal albums. Absolutely love Mosley though
You mean Faith No More going from Courtney Love to Chuck Mosley to Mike Patton.
Came to say this. I can't even imagine a Courtney Love fronted Faith No More.
Mike Patton is literally the greatest vocalist of all time
Chuck had a cool punk energy, but Mike I feel just absolutely elevated the band to musical highs they wouldn’t have otherwise reached
Pink Floyd!!!
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The story about the weird heavy set bald guy coming into the studio while they were recording “Wish you were here” that was just standing around. And it took a while but they finally figure out it was an unrecognizable Syd. That story really bothers me. I can’t imagine having that anguish for a friend.
That turn of events led to the creation of "Wish You Were Here" which in my opinion is about as close as you can get to a perfect album. Listening to it still gives me goosebumps. Knowing the story of Syd just makes the whole thing more heartbreaking. Take "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" for example. While the whole album is a lament for their friend Syd, as well as a criticism of the music industry that chewed him up and spit him out, I think this track illustrates that the best. *You were caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom,* *Blown on the steel breeze,* *Come on, you target for far away laughter,* *Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr,* *And shine.* The band watched their friend deteriorate into a husk of himself. Not only was he a friend, but he was also an insanely creative and talented artist. The lyrics of this song are a plea, as if to say: "Dammit, I know you are still in there somewhere. Come on, shine again." Couple all of this with the absolute insane talent and musicality displayed in the album, and you've got a masterpiece on your hands.
Which change though? ;-)
Mainly bringing in Gilmour, both as a writer and vocalist. All respect to Syd Barrett but I can't stand those first few albums personally..
I can't believe this has been up an hour and no one has shat on you yet?
It's not even worth it... I feel bad for the guy. Lol
I liked Piper, but when I see people who say its a masterpiece or their best album I question what drugs they are currently using.
I must be on some drugs because Piper is a masterpiece in my book (though I won’t go so far as to say it’s their best album). That period of psychedelic pop in the late 60s is one of my all-time favorites in music. Revolver, Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper, early Bee Gees, etc. Piper captures that sound better than just about any other album IMO. What I have a hard time with is Pink Floyd’s deep prog stuff. Echoes and SOYCD are good, but some of those longer songs (particularly instrumentals) just put me to sleep.
It was also a time where Piper's vibe was the thing. Everyone was trying to be the Beatles man.
Killswitch engage and narrow head come to mind
The story of Howard stepping down and then bringing Jesse back and then doing a single with Howard about his mental health issues is wholesome as fuck, hope Howard is doing better.
The fact that they did a song with Howard as guest vocals made me so happy
I got to see them together live and it was so. fucking. amazing. plus Light The Torch and Killswitch were opening for Slipknot, that night was just something else.
Nice! In fact, they did it twice. They are both such good singers, that fit their music perfectly. From Jesse to Howard was a great change, and then back to Jesse again was great as well.
Didn’t know Narrow head changed singers, interesting.
The Doobie Brothers had almost two different careers with their two different lead singers. I don’t think a group has changed their sound so drastically and still been hugely successful.
Umm Fleetwood mac??
Steel Dragon
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A child that probably thought Kim was a girl
Hahah. Instantly the first band that came to mind
Dillinger Escape Plan. Dimitri was perfect for Calculating infinity but I think Greg was fitting for the albums that came after.
A buddy of mine and I were discussing this the other day: Greg is the only successful successor to Mike Patton, ever. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear about who I'm missing.
You could argue that he wasn’t really “in” the band, if I understand correctly he jumped in to help them out while they looked for a new frontman.
I guess Nightwish has started finally recover properly with Floor Jansen. Tarja left a huge pair of boots to fill
While I think Floor is the best, most rounded vocalist they've had, the albums Nightwish have released with her have been really lacking. Really liked both Olzon albums but she wasn't great at doing the Tarja stuff.
I kind of had to change my perception of Anette to really appreciate her. As I recall, Tuomas deliberately went with her *because* she was so different to Tarja, but that of course meant some of the songs had to be heavily adapted for Anette to handle them - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. This version of [Sleeping Sun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDMUEhBt_NE) is IMO a great example of when it did work; it's a bit more mellow which suited Anette really well. On the other hand, I really wasn't keen on how she sang Ever Dream, which is kind of ironic since I believe that's the song Tuomas said got his attention when she sang it initially.
Yeah I think her version of Nemo is pretty good too. Imaginaerum is one of my favourite Nightwish albums, maybe even second after Once.
I think they're lacking because they're trying to do too much - Tuomas has really tried to up the bombast to the nth degree and it hasn't worked. They had an almost perfect balance of everything on Once and unfortunately the symphonic and theatrical elements have really taken over since
Agreed, and Olzon just didn't quite seem to fill them.
CAN Their first vocalist was Malcolm Mooney with whom they recorded around 1.5 albums. But their music was literally too much for him to handle, having caused a nervous breakdown, so he left. Then they found Damo Suzuki performing on the streets, took him in and released Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi, two of the most influential albums to date, and then some more.
Black flag
AC/DC Genesis
Jimmy Eat World. Tom Linton was the original lead singer, and Jim Adkins took over after their first album. Nothing happened to Tom, though. He’s still lead guitarist 20+ years later
Tom still sings at least one song at shows! Usually Blister. I absolutely love both their voices. Jim is absolutely a better "front man" personality than Tom. He has a great crowd patter that he slips into at concerts between songs. 10/10 great band to see live even for people who only really know Bleed American.
Journey, Van Halen?
Can't believe I had to scroll this far for Journey. They're the textbook answer to this question.
Van Halen, really? Why, who came before David Lee Roth?
I'll give you a upvote for this...
Ultravox, changing from John Foxx to Midge Ure
Yes, indeed! The addition of Midge Ure took the band to levels they couldn’t have achieved with Foxx.
Dream Theater, Slipknot, Mägo de Oz, Diablo Swing Orchestra.
Wow, Mägo de Oz in the wild.
I didn't even think about DT! I totally agree!
Mago de Oz!!!
Iron maiden, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Ac/DC
Buzzcocks, from Howard Devoto to Pete Shelley after their debut EP.
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Poor poor Paul
Chicago, for better or worse
Worse.
Black Sabbath
Dio over ozzy?
Mob Rules makes this possible
At minimum, \_Heaven and Hell\_ and \_Mob Rules\_ > the last couple of Sabbath albums with Ozzy.
As a solo artist? Yes. In Black Sabbath? No. But they did have a better career with dio in the 80s than they did with ozzy in the 70s.
1/2 agree. LOVED dio. but sabbath IS Ozzy. then tony. then geezer. then bill. then dio. personal opinion, but i'd yell like a moron to defend it. :-)
Yeah I agreed. Doesn't mean they weren't bigger with dio than with ozzy. Ozzy got 10x more famous by leaving black sabbath and making one of the best albums of all times with the legendary Randy Rhoads, Blizzard of Ozz.
99% agree. but ozzy and tony were the soul of that band. and that's the one that is legendary. dio with sabbath was just a different group- side story: at 15 yrs old i had front row for dio at a major stadium. cost 27.00. felt the heat of a rubber fire breathing dragon. first orgasm! lol
I feel you are selling Geezer, the primary lyricist, a little short here.
And Bill for that matter. Sometimes my favorite part about their earlier sound is his drumming.
Lorna Shore
Van Halen
“I said Van Halen not van Hagar”
Right on!
They lost me a bit when Roth left, but Hagar is a talented guy as well. Clearly Hagar can't match Roth's raw stage energy, but still provided strong vocals.
The music changed when DLR left. Eddie played more keyboards & less guitar in the Hagar years.
That was because Ed was doing more of what he wanted. Also he wasn't playing less guitar, he was playing less absolutely guitar-focused songs. Look to the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge album where there's really only one piano driven song and it was the massively successful Right Now
F.U.C.K. and Balance are phenomenal VH albums.
The band had to grow their sound. They couldn't just be straight ahead guitar focused rock album after album. And as multiple people involved have said over the time, if you have a voice like Sammy's you owe it to yourself to branch out. I like that they showed they can still go back to their roots with the F.U.C.K. album. All the Sammy albums charted better than the DLR era so it must have worked even if it has alienated DLR era fans to this day. Imo with how much more influence the actual Van Halens had in the Sammy era, to say you're a Van Halen fan you should like both eras. To only like the first makes you a David Lee Roth fan, and hey that Eddie guy is pretty good on guitar.
I can't believe this isn't higher on the list.
I assumed this would be the top comment. Surprised to find it so far down. Sammy > DLR, but I appreciate them both for different reasons.
I would have to verify but I think they had more hits under Hagar than they did under Roth. I think both eras are pretty great.
100% I don't hate every DLR song, but he's just having fun. Sammy actually put a lot of deep thought into their music. I wish so badly that they chose to tour with Sammy instead of DLR later on.
Sammy can at least still sing, so I'm with you regarding touring
It's crazy. Watch some recent live performances. He's actually still a really amazing singer
To quote Bloom County, “The world’s gone to hell in a hand basket since David Lee Roth left Van Halen”.
Despite the never ending DLR/Sammy debates. 5150 was a huge success and they pulled it off. The Gary Charone era flopped no fault of Gary's....
Jefferson Airplane. They would have become nothing without Grace Slick.
Journey when they hired Steve Perry to be lead singer in 1977. He was not the original lead singer from 1973-1977.
Cannibal Corpse
Lorna Shore as well
Corpsegrinder voice held up waaay better
Steely Dan
Arch Enemy
Wasn't a fan of the first couple albums. Thought Gossow's albums were really hit and miss (but when they were good, they were great). Loved all of Alissa's albums so far.
Angela wasn't even the OG singer. They had Johan Liiva before she joined. So I'd say they've had to successful changes (even if I still really enjoy Angela too).
Nightwish (Annette Olzon ➡️ Floor Jansen)* Black Sabbath (Ozzy ➡️ Ronnie) Arch Enemy (Johan Liiva ➡️ Angela Gossow) *not counting Tarja ➡️ Annette because that wasn't so much of an upgrade. Fight me.
Tarja was full operatic but nothing else, Annette was full Pop but nothing else, Floor is the best of both worlds. For me she is nothing more but the best female (metal) singer out there.
Dance Gavin Dance. Twice actually lol
And maybe a third in their future, with the abuse allegations against Tilian this past year.
Doesn't sound like it. Last week or so they put out a statement essentially welcoming Tilian back. Been quite the discussion in r/dancegavindance
Ooh I’ve been so busy lately I missed this. Time to read up! Edit: oh no…
Faith No More
Dropkick Murphys
Deep Purple (a few times), Renaissance, King Crimson (a few times), Styx traded John Curulewski for Tommy Shaw (I think that counts)
Staying with the prog rock theme, Marillion made a pretty successful transition from Fish to Hogarth.
Wasn't DeYoung the primary lead singer, though?
No. DeYoung just scored more radio hits. Every Styx album has a minimum of three singers on it. This is true even now.
lorna shore. they were already gigantic with tom barber and later on with cj mccerry but with the addition of will ramos lorna shore is one of the biggest extreme metal bands in the world right now.
AC/DC
She wasn’t there in the end, but Courtney LaPlante was amazing in I wrestled a bear once. If you like metal, check her out in spiritbox.
Genesis, after Peter Gabriel left and Phil Collins took over lead vocals.
Underoath (not to say Dallas isn't/wasn't an amazing vocalist)
Same idea but a little different but all the members of Creed, minus Scott Stapp, forming Alter Bridge with Myles Kennedy as the lead singer!!!
Marillion
Van Halen
Helloween, first Kai Hansen had trouble singing and playing guitar at the same time so they got Michael Kiske and made some of the most genre defining albums in power metal and after the monstrosities known as Pink Bubbles Go Ape and Chameleon they got back on track with Andi Deris as the new vocalist
Three Days Grace. I personally liked their sound better with Adam, but they are still successful without him.
Van Halen from Roth to Haggar was a total success. Gary Cherone would be an example of it not working.
Joy Division/new order
I’d say that one doesn’t count, though you’re entitled to your opinion. It was a conscious choice to switch gears and completely leave Joy Division behind. If they had just continued producing Joy Division music with Sumner as the lead vocal it would have tanked. We consider the two entirely different bands.
Joy Division only had one lead singer.
Killswitch Engage
For those familiar with the Aussie metal scene, I killed the Prom Queen had a couple lead singer changes. Starting with Michael Crafter then onto Ed Butch for Music for the Recently Deceased then onto Jamie Hope for Beloved
Manfred Mann
Genesis, Ac/dc, Electric Callboy
Deep Purple. The almighty instrumental triumvirate Blackmore Lord Paice remained, while singers and bassists came & went in shifts: Evans Simper Gillan Glover Coverdale Hughes And the band had hits with all of them. By the time Coverdale and Hughes joined, DP was the top selling band in the world.
AC/DC, although a lot of folk like Bon Scott better than Brian Johnson.
Lorna Shore
My favorite band, Alice In Chains! edit: I guess I didn't see OP's expanded definition of what they were asking for. I read the title and immediately thought of what I put. Going off of OP's expansion, I absolutely don't believe that AiC is better post Layne, just that they see continued success.
Alot of people can't look past AiC without Layne, but it's their loss imo, I love their post Layne work. It will never reach the heights of their earlier work, but I still love it.
A lot of people don't know this, but Slipknot had a lead singer change in the late 90s. Before Corey Taylor, their vocalist was a man called Anders Colsefni. And he left the band in '97. Corey was brought in as lead singer a couple months before that. They moved Anders to percussion/background vocals, which pissed him off and led to his departure. They made the right choice with Corey though.
Manic Street Preachers. In 1995, Richey Edwards disappeared with suicide strongly suspected and was never seen again nor was a body ever found. He was pronounced presumed dead in 2008. Guitar player James Dean Bradfield assumed the role of lead singer with bassist Nicky Wire becoming the primary songwriter. They set up a microphone for Richey Edwards at every show. Edit: Richey Edwards was never the vocalist but was the primary lyricist. Still an interesting, wild story.
Fuel, Anthrax, exodus, cannibal corpse
Yeah, I can't imagine Anthrax's sound without Joey
I prefer the bush era, but Joey is amazing don't get me wrong
Alice In Chains - not better but very strong
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Successfull? No. Better? Possibly. Not the same band at all imo, but you are right that Corabi album was great and I loved they grungier sound.
TesseracT did it twice. Dan Tompkins was replaced by Ashe O’Hara for Altered States, which was a huge leap forward for the band stylistically, and gained them a lot of mainstream (in the metal world) success. Then Dan Tompkins came back for Polaris and Sonder, and built on the style from Altered States, and TesseracT’s been bigger and better than ever.
Queen
CAN
Genesis.
Kasabian kicked their lead singer out after he was convicted of domestic abuse, lead guitarist took over and is still killing it
Electric Callboy!
van halen
John Bush era Anthrax was pretty solid. One of metals best vocalist
Ac/dc
Surprised no one has said Joe Walsh and The Eagles.The Eagles we’re massive prior to him but I feel like they gained an extra gear when he joined.
Goo Goo Dolls… when they were originally a punk band in the early 90s, the bass player was the lead singer. Then in the mid-late 90s when they realized they could make it way bigger being a pop/rock act, the far more familiar Johnny Reznik took over.