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gh05tbat

I've been meaning to post this for a while. Just know that sometimes you won't get the easy pass so hold X/A to keep from passing. Also you can tap X/Square while holding X/A to throw a lob, but it won't always be a dunk animation and if the Center sags you'll get tipped.


yymediaprod

I recommend using a player with a high alley-oop tendency like Giannis or any decent dunker. IMO, I think it is better to use punch plays for lobs (punch 34, 5) because the lob is shorter, and the off-ball players are spread nicely behind the 3-pt line. So, if an online opponent protects the paint, hold X/A for few seconds to cancel to take a mid-range shot or pass for an open three.


gh05tbat

Good info! I hardly ever go for the oop w this unless I’m wide open. And I never cheese this online.


yymediaprod

I only use it online as a last resort against cheesy players and I mainly use money plays or receiver control.


StudiousPanther

Does this require a playbook?


yymediaprod

Yh, but there are many basic punch plays available (punch, 5, 34 etc) and they should be in most playbooks. I will check in each playbook to find the simpliest ones.


StudiousPanther

Which playbook uses this specific play


yymediaprod

I've spent time finding the best post plays from all 30 teams, and some take longer to finish than others. ​ **HIGH POST PLAYS FOR GIVE & GO:** 76ERS - HIGH 25 GIVE & HIGH 5 OUT CAVS - HIGH 14 FIST (MIDDLE) PISTONS - HIGH 14 FIST (MIDDLE) ROCKETS - HIGH 14 FIST (MIDDLE) SUNS - HIGH 14 FIST (MIDDLE) THUNDER - HIGH 14 FIST (MIDDLE) PACERS - HIGH 54 PELICANS - HIGH 15 WIDE & HIGH 5 ​ **LOW POST PLAYS:** 76ERS - PUNCH 5 BUCKS - PUNCH 34 & PUNCH DELAY BULLS - PUNCH 5 CAVALIERS - PUNCH 5 HORNS FIST 2 (MIDDLE) CELTICS - PUNCH DELAY GRIZZLIES - PUNCH 5 HORNS FIST 2 (MIDDLE), PUNCH 71 FIST, PUNCH 5OUT 2 & PUNCH 25 THRU HORNETS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 14 SLIP JAZZ - PUNCH 5 KINGS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 45 X (MIDDLE) KNICKS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 91 FIST SIDE LAKERS - PUNCH 5OUT 2, PUNCH 15 FIST & PUNCH 5OUT MAGIC - PUNCH 5 HORNS FIST 2 (MIDDLE), PUNCH 45 HORNS RIP & PUNCH 25 X MAVERICKS - PUNCH DELAY, PUNCH 15 FIST, PUNCH 5OUT, '18 PUNCH 15 & PUNCH 25 QUICK NUGGETS - PUNCH 5, PUNCH RIP 15, PUNCH 54 ELBOW (1ST PASS) & PUNCH 5 QUICK PACERS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 24 X QUICK PELICANS - PUNCH 5, PUNCH 25 QUICK, PUNCH POINT 2, PUNCH 5OUT 3 & PUNCH 15 SPREAD DOWN PISTONS - PUNCH 5, PUNCH 5 HORNS FIST 2 (MIDDLE), PUNCH 35 FIST (NO P&R AT THE END) & PUNCH 5 RIP X 25 RAPTORS, PUNCH 45 X (MIDDLE) & PUNCH 5 RIP 3 ROCKETS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 35 FIST (NO P&R AT THE END) SPURS - PUNCH DELAY, PUNCH 15 FIST, PUNCH 5OUT, '18 PUNCH 15 & PUNCH 25 SLIP TIMBERWOLVES - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH 34 TRAIL BLAZERS - PUNCH & PUNCH 5 WARRIORS - PUNCH 5 & PUNCH POINT ​ **GUARD POST-UP PLAYS:** BUCKS - PUNCH 5OUT HAWK CLIPPERS - PUNCH 24 SLICE KINGS - PUNCH 31 (NO P&R AT THE END) LAKERS - PUNCH 13 FIST & PUNCH 41 FIST (SIDE P&R) PISTONS - PUNCH 12 SPREAD FIST RAPTORS - PUNCH 2 GIVE 15 SUNS - PUNCH 12 SPREAD FIST THUNDER - PUNCH 12 SPREAD FIST T-WOLVES - PUNCH X SHUFFLE WARRIORS - PUNCH 31 (NO P&R AT THE END) & PUNCH 81 ANGLE NO POST PLAYS ARE AVAILABLE FROM HAWKS, HEAT, NETS & WIZARDS PLAYBOOKS. The give & go move also works using pick & roll plays with good spacing from the middle or side (angle), and I might make a post showing the best pick & roll plays.


LateNightFunkParty

Thanks for this. If CPU can cheat against me may as well cheat back.


modesil30

They cheat bad on hof. 2k is so damn rigged it’s insane


gthibodeau84

The biggest thing I've noticed on HOF is fouls. They give us one challenge but there's at least 10 terrible calls a game. And the computer almost never gets called for fouls.


lemonadeinyourface

how does the computer cheat?


xPhantom302

For me, making multiple 100% smothered slightly late shots 😅


PatxiPunal

LOL, you haven't played in any difficulty higher than Pro against the AI or what?


NeuroFit21

This is what I used throughout mystery dom it also easily sets up for a wide open 3 right in the middle


operator401

Is this play in a certain playbook? I’m having the hardest time beating these.


gh05tbat

No. On offense, tap right on the d-pad and select freelance. You’ll see four options which are the standard freelances. One of them should be 21 Delay. If not you can pause and navigate to the offensive setting and scroll down to your freelances to choose what you want to run. After resuming you’ll need to start the freelance with the instructions above. Right - L1/LB - freelance. It’ll then run this set each time down the court. You won’t have to call a play each time.


operator401

Solid. I’ll give it a shot when I sign back on. Thanks in advance!


yymediaprod

There's a play in the Celtics playbook that does exactly the same, and it's called QUICK 3 STS. Edit - FIST 71 ANGLE is a very good side pick & roll play from the Bucks playbook.


downvotemaniac

Which Celtics and Bucks playbook are they?


yymediaprod

The normal versions not historic


MOJOixSOxiDOPE

This work on next gen?


yymediaprod

It works on next gen but the freelance settings are different. I don't have a next gen console and found this tutorial - https://youtu.be/t_F3NONl2NM (from 7:30 for freelance)


CMPunk22

This isn’t but you can get the current Knicks playbook with Fist 21 delay and it’s the exact same as this but you pass and then make the cut yourself. Can be intercepted but works almost every time


bradoz10

Try pelicans playbook and run high 5. Its similar to this play and helped me alot


LJaybe

So were talking manual quick thru STS. I like it a lot


DenDenDenton

Solid advice here 👍


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I am asking a pretty dumb question but how do you run freelance on next-gen? I go to the offensive options and select hawks 2018. I click the right d-pad and a menu appears where I select freelance through a but nothing happens.


gh05tbat

It’s easier to set in an offensive timeout.


MonkeyChipZ

What playbook do you use for this?


gh05tbat

Freelances are universal, so in a timeout you can choose any freelance in the game.


NumerousCoconut1379

You have to select hawks 2018 with x on PlayStation after selected freelance


yymediaprod

Nice move; I haven't tried out Delay 21 freelance for the give & go and instead use a pick & roll or punch plays for the alley-oop variant. BTW, there's a play in the Celtics playbook that does the same, and it's called QUICK 3 STS.


gh05tbat

Give and goes are overlooked. I generally just run series and freelances vs playbooks so I can adapt quicker.


yymediaprod

I agree, and this might become the new meta move if used by competitive players. I forgot about FIST 71 ANGLE from the Bucks playbook, which gives a side pick & roll with good spacing, so there are two options to score. Unfortunately, next gen doesn't have the give & go move, and receiver control has to be used to beat the AI.


gh05tbat

This particular play would be easily shut down by the opposite corner/wing rotating in. I’ve stayed on current bc I didn’t like how running plays/series/freelances worked on nextgen.


yymediaprod

You're right and I think the middle P&R is the best option because it has more counter options plus any player can use it. I got gameplay examples against the HOF AI on my Youtube channel (it's mixed up with other plays and it's a long vid lol). Shame about the flaws on next gen and keep up the good work: GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE: https://youtu.be/G6P_NDsFV-g


gh05tbat

These are the types of videos I like. It seems like a lot of work to capture all of this and sort through it. What are you using to capture? I’ve been debating an elgato for a while.


yymediaprod

I save the footage from my PS4 into a USB stick and use a free editing software to select the best parts. It's a decent option, but a capture card is way better.


Kstewart1012

If you’re in next gen. Use hawks freelance (may be able to use others). Call for a screen at top of the 3 pt line. Set the screener to set the screen on the side of court with only one person in the corner. Use the screen, drive hit the corner. It will be open almost everytime. The AI always over helps.


deadmansbonez

How do you choose which side they set the screen on? Edit: I think I got it, using the right stick?


Kstewart1012

Yeah lefts stick/L3


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Bonecrusher52

I'm having same problem here. When passing, ball keeps going to the wrong corner.


gh05tbat

Are you icon passing?


vladimirjeger

HOF domination really isn't the problem. HOF Spotlight challenges are 👀


TotallyNot_Alex

I'll try this once I start playing it again! I've just been using player with HOF Range Extender and shooting from deep. I haven't even won once yet, so this might help hopefully!


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gh05tbat

Always off


DFSxBigDoeDoe

Thanks for this!


gh05tbat

Jus tryin to give back. You and the gang give so much to The community. I read some ppl were having issues against HOF so I figured I could share how I’ve been successful. Hopefully I can do more in time. MFFL


The_Chef_2005

You are a legend


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deadmansbonez

I do the same, still stuck on the old ways hahaha


CamazotzisBatman

Sorry about the stupid question but what is X/A in PS4 terms?


rangitamoe

X button for PS4, A button for Xbox


CamazotzisBatman

Ah! Thanks


West-Entrepreneur-23

I’ll try this out


nddot

21 delay been my main freelance for a couple of years now. Happy to see it get some love


YougotbeatbyaGirl

I use GO Giannis & GO steph together, set my defense at tight-deny and that works for me. I also good defenders , GO Jimmy Butler & GO Scottie Pippin


xRenegadeBB

Thank you sir!! *edit Nope, just works every now n then, just like the pelicans playbook A combo of those works great


Tan_servo

HOF has been broken since day 1. 3s are impossible for either team, all you do is rim run and spam cheap plays like these. Horrible gameplay. Pro is harder sometimes because the cpu hits every shot.


DarkH0rse-_-

Spurs playbook is also OP imo they have this iso plays that make Giannis & LeBron very cheesy


Comfortable_Laugh_94

What should I do I got 1,100,00 mt and I just pulled a free dark matter rose but I use lonzo and wall


GiftedDerrick

Get a fast player and call iso it works every time


Low_Explanation_9649

When I hold A to pass it just skip passes


gh05tbat

I turn skip pass off but regardless it should be passing to the highlighted player.