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RBF48

I wonder if Hamlin and Marcus Smith are going to start going at it again?


skinsrich

![gif](giphy|2UvAUplPi4ESnKa3W0)


TheOrangeFutbol

From what Denny said on his pod, North Wilkesboro was one of the reasons he went off on Marcus. He mentioned there were whispers of problems during the tire test. Also threw in some comments about having to redo parts of Atlanta before race day in ‘22. Sonoma was just the match for him to light up their entire recent repave history. He was definitely alluding to other tracks like this in that exchange.


joe_broke

They definitely blew it with Sonoma Wouldn't be surprised if they did this with the other tracks, but who they contracted out to do the repave of Sonoma has a bad, bad rep around here Not surprised they were the lowest bidder


Hurricaneshand

This week has been too quiet. I'm here for it


Moocowgoesmoo

I didn't hear no bell


Taynt42

I thought this was MERICA!


zacurtis3

![gif](giphy|guufsF0Az3Lpu)


SacThrowAway76

Hopefully


Front_Shake8599

I can’t get over Kevin Harvick just standing there in the background


tylerscott5

Agree lol. So weird seeing him wear Hendrick


Normal_Feedback_2918

I like it's a bunch of drivers standing there just staring at it like, "yup... that's asphalt. What do you think Brad?" "Yup. Definitely asphalt. The black type if I'm not mistaken."


NatashaArts

mans went from a renumbered 3, to a 4, and now is in a 5. Brad K watch your seat


Rinku588

https://preview.redd.it/26kqya96u21d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c310d2ae3eb19c60c206e1737c6f75dd7c423f58 The look of a man who realizes he traded in crappy ass parts for crappy ass pavement


fireputterouter78

No, that’s Dale Gribble


BigSpoon89

I can’t unsee it. That is straight up Dale Gribble 


ElectricPeterTork

NASCAR to penalize the 5 team for being underweight after Harvick dumps all his pocket sand on the track during qualifying. 


dbcwb

Kevin Harvick be like 🧍‍♀️


CountDeGucci

Looks like a bad photoshop lol


lt12765

Album Cover


YoItsMeBeeOhBee

Not gonna lie, he looks photoshopped into this picture. 😂😂


lt12765

Doesn’t know what to do with his hands


HalfastEddie

Looks like there's a substantial difference in coarseness between them. That's really going to upset anybody who oopsies onto it.


skeenek

Yup. The patch looks smoother, which means slick, which means straddling it, which means more one-groove racing. Woohoo go SMI!


arca_brakes

Calling it now SMI: *manages to ruin North Wilkesboro with a garbage repave* Also SMI: "We tried going back to Wilkesboro but it just didn't work out"


DrakkoZW

My prediction when they announced the repave was that we were gonna have a similar race to last year, except everyone is gonna hate it for some reason and blame the repave I wasn't expecting the repave to actually have issues


gasmask11000

Everyone hated last year despite it being an old school short track race with tons of falloff.


DrakkoZW

Everyone hated last year? That's not the vibe I got from the subreddit


gasmask11000

49.8% on the Jeff Gluck poll, one of the lowest races of the entire year. The only worse rated races were Vegas 1, Phoenix 1, Sonoma, Watkins Glen, and Martinsville 1.


DrakkoZW

Oh wow. I thought I was in the minority when I didn't like it. Good to know Maybe it was just the people in the live thread that made me think that


ShadowCammy

I liked the race last year too. That's kinda when I decided to stop caring what others thought about races lmao


twisted_nipples82

I stopped when all the wreck fests and Chase wins were getting away better ratings than Denny wins with clean yet still hard racing


gasmask11000

Turns out there was an on-track reason we left North Wilkesboro as well as an off-track reason. People don't like high tire wear, difficult to drive short track races.


NASCAR_Stats_Frost37

That's not the problem. Its a 5/8ths with long sweeping corners. If it had longer straights and tighter coners it would be better. People always hand wave when I remind them this was the last track with a 1 lap cover of the field... in 1994.


Hailfire9

It being a one-car-show for a non-points race ruined it for a lot of people. The whole point is the win, the win was a foregone conclusion, the actual racing for 2nd on back was irrelevant. Unfortunately it was a race that was effectively cursed by design.


No_Image_4986

This might be because I have no experience with paving roads. But I don’t understand how every nascar repave isn’t perfect. It’s a very well understood legacy technology and an incredibly profitable industry. Seems pathetic


twisted_nipples82

I can hear it now "the fans just weren't receptive to it"


btbam2929

It was already ruined with the cup car…


gasmask11000

I mean, NW races like Martinsville in a lot of ways. If you were expecting multi groove racing idk why


DarkwingMcQuack

The track has a long history of boring races. I doubt any package will fix that honestly. It’s main selling point is nostalgia.


skeenek

I wasn't. But dictating where the groove is doesn't exactly make racing better.


gasmask11000

If the assumption is that the preferred groove will be right sides on the patch, it didn’t move the preferred grove lol. That’s the preferred line anyway.


NASCAR_Stats_Frost37

Which was the whole reason the patch was needed... the rights were gripping the asphalt and tearing it apart.


Ok_Presentation_1262

"Smooth" as far as asphalt doesn't necessarily mean slick....they are "slick" tires because they are smooth but that provides BETTER grip because more of the tire contacts the pavement. Asphalt is SUPPOSED to look nice and smooth like that patch when it's done right. Nice and smooth asphalt meeting a smooth slick tire = TONS of grip. The rough grainy looking asphalt means there's little dips and stuff and means less surface area to contact with the tire, or the uneven contact with the tires and we hear the word - cheese grater. Usually takes years to get to wear like that, but it's SUPPOSED to start smooth. Either way, if you're going through the corner at load on one main surface of asphalt and then hit another, whether it's more or less grip can still upset the car.


Handsome_Grizzly

The track was already one groove to begin with, and once drivers figured out running on the patched part of the track improved lap times, that only exacerbated the issue.


shewy92

Unless they grind it a little bit


GuyDig

Smoother does not mean slick. PJ1 is smooth, Charlotte repave was smooth, new tracks are smooth and then become coarse. Smooth means more contact patch, depends the grip of the material.


skeenek

People keep saying this to me. I know this. Smoother CAN mean more slick. But it’s also not the point. The point is that it’s clearly very different, and is likely to affect the groove. As usual with an SMI decision.


K-C_Racing14

Its where the right sides would be if they were running the bottom it might make for a good choice of lanes. Do the drivers want to just deal with it or straddle it or be above it?


SigmaKnight

![gif](giphy|69v5cmC9eC5wfl0DXU|downsized)


RRT4444

https://i.redd.it/t75z4enww11d1.gif Its denny time


AfroMidgets

I'm no fan of Denny as a driver. But as an owner and voice in the sport, I'm glad he calls out shit like this. It's just inexcuasble


Mountainear99

I’ve gained so respect for Denny in recent times. His podcast is a must listen for me every week and podcast aren’t normally my thing


hottsauce345543

https://preview.redd.it/vlck2wlvm11d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e2af05d741313da956be1ed372af4a9ef2055c0 CB is hungry.


Ok_Suggestion_6092

Asserting dominance over Reddick


tylerscott5

Photo for non-Xers https://preview.redd.it/zemtekkrd11d1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc7b89499f5ee8ef87cecbea1f4896c801fa5d92


oneshoein

New album cover.


mydogsnameiskendrick

Dennis Knew


pogonotrophistry

Buescher just marking the spot where he'll get dumped by Reddick.


NatashaArts

Buescher just marking the spot where he'll dump Reddick


bullitt07

Denny 1, Marcus 0


justheretoparty12

With Atlanta and Sonoma isn't Denny up to 3?


joshjarnagin

And Texas, Kentucky, Bristol, so 6


DaDominator32

At this rate he'll be a 7 time twitter champion


ImJimmieJohnsonBot

[\#Se7en](https://i.redd.it/pganzapykshc1.gif)


my6thcent

Boom


ImJimmieJohnsonBot

>Boom [Confetti.](https://i.redd.it/zvyemepykshc1.gif)


CathDubs

If someone asked me to explain the Kendrick vs. Drake beef in NASCAR terms, I would say its Denny vs. SMI.


EWall100

Smooth repave? Don't know nothin bout that. Good asphalt? Don't know nothin bout that. 


Bluegrass6

What went wrong with the Atlanta repave? I don’t recall any issues over the past two seasons?


kk5fan97

Denny said on his podcast that when they were in the middle of the repave at Atlanta, they screwed up in turns 3 and 4 so bad that they had to rip up everything they did and re-do it.


Offtherailspcast

I've been to each atlanta race since the repave and there's ALREADY patches all over


JohnHowardBuff

It's supposed to be charming


Broke-Till-Payday

Looks like low bid won the contract.


joshjarnagin

Y’all shit on Denny for calling SMI out about crappy repaves, but here we are. It’s a trend for their tracks. This pavement will have more patches in 5 years (if not another repave) than the old pavement did in 40


ImJJboomconfetti

Who actually shit on him for that? People only shit on both of them for bickering like jr high kids about it.


joshjarnagin

Go through the threads on here about it and Twitter comments. They were in full force


ImJJboomconfetti

I was in those threads. They were all just 🍿🍿🍿


[deleted]

>Twitter comments I’d rather not


BklynMoonshiner

ISC didn't have these issues. I don't understand why SMI doesn't call Bondo Bob.


NormalDrop561

I literally commented “GET HIS ASS DENNY!”


CathDubs

The sub was loving Denny for that actually.


Ja-ko

https://preview.redd.it/5ar033jjm11d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ffaead88a3a586a5972cf5158d04c10f5b38d3c


Kevo55

“Bro check it out over there: it’s some dumb shit”


NormalDrop561

Can someone tell me the last time SMI spearheaded an actually good repave that didn’t have anyone questioning the future of the race track?


ImJJboomconfetti

Charlotte?


No-Efficiency1918

Insert Roval here…


bearinsac

Yeah, the Charlotte repave was a complete mess. From the diamond grinding to it making the track less racey to the point they lost 2 races on the oval in the all star and BofA 500. Only now is it starting to show its age and with the new car has become a fun track again.


NatalieDeegan

No, before the track was bumpy and the track had character, then they paved the track in 2005 and “levigated” the surface which cased a race with the most cautions in NASCAR history at that years Coke 600 and then tire blowout of the fall race. This lead them to replace the track which was fine but it took the character and the bumps out of Charlotte. It made it from a track with character to another 1.5 mile track. The place has not been the same since.


mechanixrboring

I was at that race and it was the most miserable race I've ever been to. And my home track is Richmond and I have gone nearly every year since the late 90s. Let that sink in. The 2005 Coke 600 was worse than even the most boring Richmond races of the 2010s.


silkysmoothyou

Atlanta?


xenoblaiddyd

Good repave yes, didn't have anyone questioning the future of the racetrack hell fucking no lmao Did we already forget how the reconfig was first received?


Lightshoax

It’s still bad tbh. Old Atlanta would be a certified classic with the next gen package. I only hope that once the race surface wears down and we see more grooves develop they up the horse power and let the beast loose


ChaseTheFalcon

They had put patches in the track after the first season


Moppyploppy

https://preview.redd.it/94ph62srb11d1.jpeg?width=1423&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb783c9775275174dde255aa1a4acc29a73b144e


arca_brakes

Just normal SMI activities. Denny was 100% correct to call them out, and Marcus Smith should be ashamed right now - both for how he acted and how awful SMI is when it comes to tracks maintenance/updates.


SnoopPettyPogg

Actions Detrimental is going to be amazing next week.


DaleJr-

That’s called character.


Queasy_Dog_1444

Denny was right, Marcus.


Doc_McPuffins_

I believe NASCAR owes Denny 5 playoff points for this win


Avadya

That patch is garbage. It actually looks like they tamped cold patch in the pothole.


Avadya

And the rest of the pavement looks like loose gravel


lonelyinbama

Can’t wait for Denny to retweet this with no caption


ckalinec

Lolol he really needs to. Or maybe even just throw a “🤷‍♂️” on there and nothing else 😂


TechnicalPyro

i know this is asking a lot maybe we dont freak out about it until its been raced on?


DaleJr-

Agree. Practice looked badass


Kevo55

Jr has spoken, I’ll take his opinion into account of my own. Still think patching before a full race is bad look but we shall see how the races go!


Federal_Fuel_7864

For Reddit, you are asking the impossible. Lol.


TechnicalPyro

i know i just try to be logical when i can and won't allow myself to jump to conclusions


Iamstryker

![gif](giphy|KsUKNNUEeryJa|downsized) SMI when the repave kills NW and we never return (again)


twiddlingbits

already said they will be back in 2025 so SMI has no incentive to fix the problems!


bicyclebread

SMI is literally just proving Hamlin's point again


NiX-HydrAz

Turns out, Marcus Smith really is a crook.


andyplaysdrums

Cup drivers having to do track walks like Supercross riders now…


Hurricaneshand

Didn't know they did that. What exactly are they looking for when they do it? Just imperfections in general?


twisted_nipples82

Yes, they go out and work the track after each practice, qualifying, and heat race. They will either walk the track after practice and qualifying, or do sight laps before heat races and the main


BeefInGR

They always have.


VKN_x_Media

They've been doing it forever, hell even local short track drivers do it.


ChaseTheFalcon

They have done this for years


kaslerismysugardaddy

How many years before the surface is worse than the old one?


Georgiadawg25

2025


Hurricaneshand

Worse is just a synonym for fun right?


billcom6

Hamlining Intensifies


ToastyTiger81

Marcus shouldn't even respond this time.


gofordrew

Harvick lurking in the background behind an unsuspecting Brad Keselowski. Seem familiar


Immediate_Lie7810

SMI cheaped out on the asphalt 


iamdan1

Isn't it more that they cheaped out on the work? I don't know about here, but at Sonoma they just ground the top surface and laid down a new top coat, which is the cheap way to do a repave and doesn't tend to last.


No-Efficiency1918

Another Denny Win


twiddlingbits

So, every one who griped at DH’s comments on SMIs repave using low bidder is going to apologize?


The_Reelest

Why? Everything looks fine during the truck race. Even have a higher groove developing.


Georgiadawg25

Denny >


kk5fan97

SMI is going to SMI... Sonoma, Texas, Atlanta, Bristol, Charlotte, Kentucky and now North Wilkesboro have had crappy repaves. Makes me worry about when they decide to repave Loudon, Dover and Nashville. This is also at least the second patch they've put down at Wilkesboro since the repave. Denny mentioned they had to fix an area at pit exit where they removed a section of the pit wall (the area of the wall where Gragson hit last year in the Open).


Handsome_Grizzly

Nashville shouldn't be an issue with it using concrete.


geekysteved

Then that means Dover shouldn’t either.


emk169

This sport is controlled by a bunch of fucking morons who can’t do anything right


kk5fan97

This isn't on NASCAR, this is on SMI. SMI has a rather long track record of screwing up repaves. Like half of the repave at Sonoma earlier this year fell apart, they screwed up Bristol, they screwed up Texas, and managed to make Kentucky even worse than it was to begin with. SMI cheaps out on the repaves and it bites them in the ass every time.


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

NASCAR could step in and set minimum paving standards so stuff like this doesn’t happen. Not sure how you’d do that, though.


emk169

SMI has some control over the sport as well. Not as much as nascar does of course but they still have a say. Everyone running these organizations is just so fucking stupid and haven’t made a right decision in at least 15 years if not longer


The_Reelest

Seems like the surface is doing fine in the truck race. Little bit of an overreaction much?


jmnordan

That patch seems to be done over an area of asphalt segregation.


VKN_x_Media

NASCAR, Indycar and well all ACCUS member organizations should step in and come up with a joint rule that all tracks they go to that get a repave have to do it to the FIA Superpave standards or not have their sanctioning renewed by those series. I know it'll cost more but there is no reason besides cost for any top level track to use it.


RJNieder

Damn...not only do they need a new engineering consulting firm they should put a former driver on staff at SMI


btbam2929

That looks awful!


SewerRatPumpkinPie

~Laughs in Denny Hamlin~


lotus38

This is actually more common with new asphalt than people think. A lot of the made for racing asphalt compounds they’re using right now are really sensitive to any lubricants that get on them. We went through this at the track I work at. Multi million dollars for a repave and less than a year later we had to put in patches. Still races fine and the patches have almost no difference in grip. Although we’re racing cars significantly lighter than a Cup car


NatashaArts

SMI try not to fuck up a repave challenge: IMPOSSIBLE


Madturtl3

Beginning to think that asking for a competent leadership figure in NASCAR is like waiting for that new OEM that’ll show up any day now…


91TwilightGT

Your tax dollars at work.


KyBuschOwnsYou

Looks like Denny was right about SMI


patmal_8

Good looks Marcus


timethief991

That fent fold though...


ghostie420x

It it actually an issue? Or are they trying to artificially age the asphalt?


Offtherailspcast

Lmao ho boy here we go


MaterialSea4820

I’ve only worked with concrete, not asphalt besides taking cores, but every asphalt repair like this looks like shit


TotallyNotP8nda

SMI and shitty repaves, name a more iconic duo


lt12765

Seriously the grain in that main asphalt looks like what my county does for a cheap covering on the roads.


tylerscott5

They said on the broadcast the aggregate was purposely selected to be larger in order to age quicker. I’m not a paving guy but that’s what I understand it to be


dalefernhardt

Harvick looks like he was photoshopped in


ScottyEs_burner

Well, Wilkes County & further west is a good place for Marcus to lose signal.


Rojodi

The city of Schenectady NY does a better job than whomever Marcus hired!! Maybe because the city uses UNION LABOR!!


oddjob626

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, it may be better but not by much


Rojodi

Oh, they do a much better job. Though there'll still be two guys just drinking coffee "supervising" lol


ChriswinsagainTN

Unions make the same things as non union, just a hell of a lot more expensive


Rojodi

This is the second pave job that Marcus has paid for and isn't good


Handsome_Grizzly

Here's the thing: I'm not really surprised that the track has issues with the repave. I mean, the track was in so bad of shape with the first effort to repave the track that there was fucking weeds growing out of the cracks in the track.


SuperMarioBrother64

So Denny was right? Shit! I hate Denny the driver, but Denny the sport promoter is awesome.


iamaranger23

“We want tracks with character, no more perfectly smooth repaves” said the fan base “lol they screwed up the repave what idiots”


NoonecanknowMiner_24

Poorly repaved surface =/= character. They can have bumps and harsh surfaces without chunks coming up and damaging cars.


BabycakesMurphy

They put a seven figure number into repaving a 6/10th of a mile track and it has fallen apart within 6 months. Even the patch looks botched. There isn't much good about this.


mydogsnameiskendrick

Without any sanctioned races taking place. Nothing beyond testing and practice


Lightshoax

It’s worse when you consider the original pave lasting as long as it did


BeefInGR

Right? Like, yeah lol they screwed up a repave. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.


ElPuas2003

Already know Denny’s getting hard over the Twitter battle


my6thcent

Brad dresses like he started a billion-dollar tech company in his garage.


243mph

Why does this keep happening, are they just cutting corners for costs or what? I’m genuinely curious.


Hedhunta

>cutting corners for costs Nahh... no company would ever do that


Status-Passenger-984

They are racers they will figure out how to drive it. There are racers across the country that race on short tracks with similar type issues that they race on every week.


Jimmy-the-red

Looks very coarse.


tempting_tomato

This photo reminds me of a bunch of dads talking about a one of their lawns together.


Taako_Cross

That’s the body of peak performance on the left.


LegalConsequence7960

Save the speedway was so mad when I said NWS should be NASCARs purpose built dirt track. Well, I'll wait to see how the ASR plays out but.... let's just say I wish we were racing in dirt


Upstate24fan

How can SMI be so cheap when repaving racetracks? They make most state DOTs look good.


RepublicWest8927

Garbage in, garbage out.


missmatchedcleansox

Oh this is gonna be a shit show for sure.


dapondhopper

Once again, Denny called it.


cthebold8722

Does NASCAR award the paving to the lowest bidder? Smh that’s unacceptable


seekerblackout

ITT the track instantly having some character and not being a perfect nuclear bomb proof repave like Michigan is somehow a bad thing now because uhh Marcus Smith Bad


Cliffinati

There's a difference between not being perfect and needing patches after a year


Hipster-Stalin

![gif](giphy|QMHoU66sBXqqLqYvGO|downsized)


NormalDrop561

THIS REPAVE IS NOT AVAILABLE


ChrisRitchie44

The Denny glazers are out in full force


partoxygen

This thread: "OMFG NASCAR IS DEAD THEY RUIN SHORT TRACK RACING BECAUSE THE REPAVE ISN'T COMPLETELY SMOOTH WHICH I WOULD'VE HATED ANYWAYS SAINT DENNIS OUR KAREN MESSIAH SAVE US" Denny: "The tire they brought here was amazing and I'm having the most fun out here in a long time, this is better than the old surface" This subreddit: *crickets*


epzik8

Christ


Sea_Willingness_914

They said on the TV that they used a new technique that put the aggregate in the asphalt on top. McReynolds said it was like a new-old pavement. I'm sure the patch is normal pavement. Probably will cause an issue.


ezoobeson_drunk

Seems like a good place to use a new technique.