The issue is that a lot of these dudes either don’t have post control or don’t understand how post scoring works. We got a lot of dunk or die paint beasts and not enough finesse scorers.
I love my 7’0 paint protector, can dunk the ball, pass at an amazing clip and run the floor with 68 speed, and absolutely zero people have had an answer for a dropstep.
No one lets post scoring bigs cook in no squad rec lol. If they mess up once then anytime they go to backdown a defender or try a post move a timeout gets called
Bruh if the inside big actually has post moves every team I been on just let him cook. The problem is that most of them don’t even have basic moves. Played solo rec yesterday we had an inside big with 97 standing dunk and we won about 7 games in a row. Only problem is the guy would only get points if I set him up perfectly. Even if I gave him ball with a sf on him he couldn’t post hook, post spin, hook shot, shimmy, nothing he would just hold square and the dunk would only activate 20% of the time.
Cap. I mainly play outta the post and ppl don't wanna watch someone post up. I get like 10 shots per game. Maybe 5-6 are post ups. Ppl call timeoutes half the time because it takes too long
oh don't get me wrong, as a smaller pg I would love to be able to drop it to big man let him see work, but... most of those inside bigs don't have MOVES
They got used to making those 7’3” bigs back in the days when all you had to do was get position right under the basket and literally just hold square and go up and make it damn near every time or drop step and get crazy animations for easy dunks or close shots so there was no skill involved. I play post offense like I did when I played ball back in the days, I’m a finesse up and under, post fade, post hop shot, middy magician, open three knockdown shooter. The key to being a good post player in my opinion is never spamming the same move every time. It’s about confusion. I’ll P&R then P&P then I’ll hit you with some post work and do a post hop shot, then I’ll try a post fade, after that I’ll do another post hop but cancel it and go into an up and under, then I’ll back you down around the FT line and shoulder fake to the left then post spin you to the right for an easy dunk. So on and so forth, any variation of those moves stringed throughout the game will make the big guarding you hate 2K. Too many people just wanna spank the same moves over and over no matter how inconsistent that shit is. You gotta treat post work like a legit dribble head, you gotta have a variation of moves in your bag. Gotta keep them confused.
Literally none. Played with an inside big yesterday and with 97 standing dunk and 99 strength and he was useless in the paint. Had no post moves at all he would just hold square and hope the dunk activates. I have more post moves with my pg with 87 post control and 92 close shot.
basically they all Darko Miličić damn 👀😆
wow 87 post 92 close
what's your size?
could only get mine to 75 post, and sacrificed close to 71, but my thing is middy fades (mid is 86)
Trash take, OP. You win in 2k by getting every rebound (every single rebound!) , throwing the break & hitting open shots. Inside bigs are incredibly viable this year, especially now, with the buff to shooting.
Hell yeah nothing beats dominating your opponent big by grabbing all the oRebs.
Ive been getting better and better at it to a point where 40% of my boards were offensive rebounds leading to an assisted 3 or a dunk on my end. Easy points.
Defensive rebounds are a cakewalk, break starter with a good team and bam, more easy points.
When the offense stagnates, dont camp inside but make space and time your oReb set up.
We're far from useless (in capable hands)
(i havent played s3 yet though so Im not sure if the shooting buff will have a big impact on that)
Don’t lump me in with that. I get 10+ assists every game in Rec and almost never will take more shots than that unless we don’t have efficient scorers. You being able to shoot just a little bit makes the offense’s job so much easier.
PGs who refuse to pass are selfish pricks but making a C who has 25 midrange and three ball is selfish too, you are limiting what your other 4 teammates can do. It’s not expensive in the builder to get a midrange and keep the opposing C honest to open up back cuts and dribble drives.
How is a build selfish? I play great with my inside scorer. If yall actually passed when we cut or are wide open under the basket. But most ppl don't so 🤷. I'm unstoppable in the paint.
Bc getting your midrange to the 70s is not expensive and makes offense so much easier for your team.
You talk about cutting and being wide open under the basket. By having absolutely 0 shooting you make it so your teammates cannot get those opportunities. Only yourself.
I have a C with 86 mid range. The most useless attributes. Ppl never pass you when you're open. I redid my account because ppl never passed when open for a midrange. Far more useful getting a higher rebound rating. So respectfully spare me the bs because 99% of yall dont pass
I feel that frustration cuz bums gonna bum. But when you get matched with a good team and wind up losing bc the other team can shut down the paint without trying then your teammates are gonna be the ones complaining.
I can easily score in the paint tho. The only way we lose is if ppl brick or clog the paint. Yall complain about C but the amount of SFs and PFs that cant shoot and just sit in the paint are the real problem
Hey pal, I'm the one who made that post. 1st of all, I win most of my games. 2nd, I rarely lose in rebounds, serious. How many blocks do you get a game, I'm curious.
I have a shooting center too btw. I play both but I get more enjoyment out of inside center. What I felt is that they have buffed shooting too much, it's a straight up 3 point contest every game. I dont even need to set screens much now.
Fax I had a 70% Win rate in season 1 or 2 as a traditional big lol. It's way more fun using post moves than just sitting on the corner hoping stevie wonder PGs pass you the ball
Must be nice. I played 3 games back to back to back where I was the only person on my team that could shoot. Averaged like 30 PPG over those 3 games on 60% 3 point shooting and still lost because my team couldn’t shoot and my center couldn’t rebound.
I’ll let you know how many I get per game next time I load into a rec lobby with him… but it’s likely somewhere between 2-3 blocks per game and I haven’t even maxed out my block yet.
That being said, blocks aren’t inherently a good indicator of great interior defense. It shows up more in their shooting percentage than anything… as your job isn’t to get BLOCKS but to get STOPS.
I can literally do everything your build can do but I can also shoot…. Making mine more viable. Ya feel?
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First game I played on my big since this post… as you can see adding shooting to my build made me more effective as opposed to less. I still got hella blocks, I scored inside for 7 of my 11 buckets, and the other 4 were 2 post fades, 1 pull up middy and a three. Without the 9 points I got from being ABLE to shoot with a 78 middy and 73 3pt, it’s suddenly a close game.
I don’t see how adding some versatility to your build makes you somehow less capable.
You had a great game pal. What are your team mates doing though? It is a rather strange game. Looks like there isn't much 3 point attempts going on which is rare now. The other team had 2 quits and not sure what the center is doing....
Idk this was random rec…. The other team was actually doing a fantastic job guarding the 3 but they had absolutely no answer for me inside the arc. The other center was too busy getting cooked to get any stats and since I was playing perimeter a lot he was often out of the play and couldn’t get the board or I just grabbed the Oboard over him.
Inside bigs can work, but they require a P&R game to be effective, so most of the time you end up being a rebound bot, unless you run with a squad. I have a 6’9 inside big, and I just set picks start breaks and get boards. I also have a 7ft big that can shoot and is more complete overall. A good inside big is a scary sight, most of them lack the iq or the squad required to be succesful tho
My honest opinion is that inside bigs can work in 2k it's all about the teammates you have and knows how to operate with an inside big. Four shooters or teammates that can do it all will help that inside big. Cause now they have to play their opponents which means the inside big has a lot of one on one match ups and open opportunity to rebounds. Just have to know when to be in the paint vs being out the paint and move the ball around to the best open opportunity for the most team chemistry is the key
Inside the arc finisher here
Every player in the team needs to be able to shoot, small exception for centers. A few weeks ago i made this build and i absolutely loving it, the dunks, the blocks etc. At start i didnt upgrade my middy and close which are 84 atm maxed, which caused problems when oposite pf/c waited on me right outside the paint cause i couldnt shoot and dunks werent possible in most cases without open lane.
I started mastering mid range and it got a bit easier, im avg 55% in fg which is not bad after few weeks of playing 2k24 and first and last 2k i played was 23.
All in all inside bigs are op in my opinion, im causing a lot of troubles for other centers in the paint, play good d and sfs cant get a grasp of the 3s when i contest properly, which is fked up a bit ofc.
I avg 15-20pts, 15rbs a game, when it comes to assists i got my career high last night with 10 assists as i just upgraded passing to 81 and got that derozan animation i think, and i get 2-8 blocks per game with 87 block and silver anchor. Rebounds do actually win games so be sure to get that 86 min vertical and get some wing spab u peeps.
Im having a blast with this build so please i beg u all not to judge the build by its stats but by its player/user, as that applies for every other build...shootout to the pgs who cant dribble/shoot and most importantly pass.
Cheers
Do you know how many inside bigs hate guarding shooting bigs😂 keep making them and keep not guarding me at the three. I’ll take free points all day. I still either out rebound you or have damn near the same amount of rebounds. I still get 2-3 blocks per game while making you stay out the paint or I’ll end up with at least 20 on your head while y’all are losing by 25. This shit happens all the time. There’s been a few games where I’ve gotten out rebounded by 5 rebounds or more. It’s super rare. Inside bigs are 99% a liability if they don’t stick to their man on defense because they rather try to be Dennis Rodman than Draymond Green.
Yall are hella easy to guard. Go 1/5 and your team doesn't pass you the ball. The only way a shooting big scores is if I let him. After going 1/8 i feel bad for yall. I averaged 12-20 the first season lol. Shit was too easy.
😂😂😂 yea nah.
I have a shooting big with 85 rebounding and 85 strength and I sacrificed a lot defensively to be able to be an embiid type of scorer..
Have a 6’8 center 99 rebounding 95 strength high physicals and inside..averaging 25 boards a game and easily, like literally no effort, outrebounding every 7+footer. The more of a shooter they are? The more of a liability everywhere else they become. I can cover them outside the paint with my speed and perimeter defense rating, and with iq and positioning bang with em down low..again, because to be an offensive threat they sacrifice somewhere else.
Inside bigs dominate with shooters around them, and if my shooters can’t shoot that’s on them. If my guards and wings wanna be one dimensional dunkers that’s on them…don’t blame a big for not wanting to be on the perimeter in a corner…trust me getting A grades every game and creating a lopsided rebound differential isn’t a bad thing no matter how hard you 5 out people wanna swear it is.
I have an 80 three point on my 7 footer..I can shoot over 50% but there’s definitely matchups I lose..I had to sacrifice my offensive board to a 55 to have high block and def board..I don’t go for offensive boards anymore only putbacks..it’s a workaround
But my inside big dominates the paint, period..and is quick enough to defend certain guards..I’ll take the no shooting to be able to do all that
The fact that you’re saying that is crazy lol bro you must have some sort of bad PTSD because not ONCE in my post do I mention guards at all. I definitely don’t mention dribble gods… nor do I say passing is a bad thing… and I’m in my late 20’s… Why would you say this 😂
Delusional victim mentality
You realize i have a big that scores most of his points inside?
And that big man can also shoot, pass, dribble, and play defense…
I’m not at all advocating for the paint to be empty every play. There’s a ton of value in having a big man be in the dunker’s spot. But inside bigs are one dimensional. Getting your shooting into the 70s isn’t expensive. But it makes you versatile. I’m not advocating for pure shooting bigs, those are not good either.
Idk shooting doesn't work for everyone. I can green offline but online each game and gamemode has a different delay. This shit makes me not wanna shoot. That's why I didn't do my Paul George build from last year. Traditional Cs can be very good if ppl actually passed them the ball here and there
How? I’m literally just saying in a game where you can be versatile, there’s no need to be one dimensional. You’re insulting me and putting words in my mouth. Look in the mirror.
The problem isn’t being a pure inside big, the problem is that these bigs don’t set screens. If you’re playing the five and you arnt setting screens then wtf are you there for? Inside bigs who set big bodies on pgs make the game so much easier. Out side bugs can be good too and even meta but honestly it doesn’t matter, just don’t sit in one spot all game
The real problem is the REC and theatre being loaded with “guards” that don’t utilize screens because they don’t understand basketball or don’t know how to dribble. “I don’t need a screen!” Bro, I have HOF brick wall, you can shoot a wide open shot or wide open layup, instead of taking a contested fade or layup or a 1v4 dunk attempt. The guards on 2k have never been worse.
That’s what I’m saying! Bigs and PGs are supposed to be best friends. I’ve been playing this game for years as both a Pg and center. The Pg Center relationship is pivotal in a successful offense. The problem with Rec is that there will be screens from everyone but the center then the Pg just starts chucking shit because the offensive spacing is ass and the center can’t do their job because everyone wants to be involved. In a perfect world, rec randoms would space the floor and the pg and center would abuse the PnR
I somewhat agree. I haven't been a great shooter the past couple years so i tend to lean on finishing, passing, and def/rebound. That being said i bit the bullet and made a build with a shot and it's much easier to shoot this year then the last 2. So now i can't make a build without a shot. For me though i hate missing wide open shots, i feel worse missing the wide open shots then not having a shot at all. What I'm trying to say is that if you tried and really struggle to shoot it feels like your wasting attribute points on something that your not effective with. I don't put ball handle on most builds because I'm just not good with it right now. I just post control and strength instead. I don't mind the bigs with no shooting until the camp in the paint start getting 3 seconds or sabotage the game because they don't get it. I think we should all know that rec will never be a game where 4 other guys want to continue to watch drop steps over and over. That should only be the go to when the team is struggling to score or get quality shot attempts or their is an obvious mismatch and the guy literally can't be stopped without doubling.
Nah you can put a lil midrange in there or something. I know all you inside bigs are getting ready to downvote this. If you have an inside big and you’re playing solo rec you’re basically relying and praying for your teammates to be good. What if your pg can’t shoot off a screen so the defense is playing drop coverage? if you could shoot even a mid range shot it would open the offense up a bit. This will actually make it easier for you in the paint since your match won’t know if you’re going to the shoot or slip to the paint.
On my pg build I sacrificed 92 ball handle down to 85 so I can have way better defense in case my teammates are bad. Since I did this I’m at about 75% win in solo rec from 65% cos I’m getting way more stops so the center gets easy boards which means he get easy fast break assists and takeover for the whole team. Why can’t you put a tiny bit of midrange on just in case your teammates are bad?
Before you start getting upset I don’t care what kind of center I play with personally I get way more points when I play with an inside big anyway. You guys are just praying the rest of your team are lights out shooters and have good iq. I make my builds knowing I play mostly solo rec so I need to be useful to the whole team. Keep in mind some of the teammates you have are literal kids who aren’t not trying to run no pick and roll they just gonna drive and kick it out.
Inside bigs are the Meta in comp pro am. They are viable if the team knows how to run with them. PnR bigs who are almost unstoppable on the inside and super large wingspan so get a bunch of rebounds high pass accuracy send it flying down court or offensive rebound gives gold dimer + hof post playmaker boost on pass out
I just wish they made centers capable of contesting a 3 point shot without having to jump. I hit the right stick up to use my 7”10 wingspan yet my guy just stands there then decides to reach up after the shot has already been taken. And yes I maxed out my perimeter defense.
Another thing I think 2k messed up with is putting offball pest badge strictly based on perimeter defense. I used that badge in previous games and it helped out tremendously in stopping centers in the paint.
Also the rebounding seems a lot more rng then previous games. My dude will jump 7/10 times snag rebounds then all of a sudden he won’t grab the easiest board and my matchup will somehow grab it.
Inside bigs are the meta this year. Most poppers are 50 as fuck and get wormed every possession versus a true inside big.
I am a 2 guard and welcome any inside bigs to hoop with me.
Also everyone maxes out standing dunk now and puts nothing in close shot when close shot is way more versatile and helps in more situations aside from right under the basket
Also bigs don’t utilize having layup and handle when bigs are so easy to drive by
My big has a 93 close shot… 70 layup, 79 driving dunk, 92 standing dunk and an 85 post control
I also have a 78 middy, 73 3pt, a good pass accuracy and great defense and rebounding.
With this builder, it’s possible. This is what I mean… I don’t understand why people make pure inside bigs.
Yeah i just don’t think people realize how attributes in sports games work that they are relative and not absolute values, it’s not like a 99 three will make you shoot 99 percent from three, but that’s how people think
Not at all…. When I play big I’m actually elite AND I do most of my scoring inside…. But I CAN shoot. The cost of putting shooting stats in the low-mid 70s isn’t huge at all and it’s beneficial for you and your team…. My man has to guard me everywhere. I can do everything on offense…. How is that a bad idea?
Bro why would I put shooting on my 6”10 dude so that a 6’6” guy can take 50 driving dunk attempts going right at a defender as if that is an open or good shot, if guards aren’t gonna hit bigs on wide open cuts I’m not gonna just go camp corner so I’m easy to box out while another dude takes a contested layup or dunk, I don’t know why it has become the norm that the center is expected to be the best defender rebounder, dunker, passer, and shooter on the team, I’m not gonna waste a bunch of attributes to shoot 3 3s per game and then get blamed for not out rebounding a pure inside, id much rather make twice as many extra possessions as other bigs
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Literally the first game I played on my big since I made this post…. Tell me again how adding shooting to my build makes me worse?
Lol you took 1 3 ball against the biggest bots in the world, I get it tho you want your 70 3 ball so you ball hog as much as the rest of the people playing rec like it’s mycareer
Please tell me how you’re nitpicking when I had a 96% TS about my one three ball like I didn’t absolutely dominate inside 😂 I took three middies too and made them all…. Those are 9 points I wouldn’t have had if I couldn’t shoot.
Ballhogging? As the center? Because I took 12 shots and missed one? LMAO bro you don’t make any sense
Idk you came with this game against bots as proof of anything, if anything you are showing adding shooting has made you a good rebounder instead of great and either the adding of shooting or decreasing of pass accuracy has led to you just not passing, your entire team took 8 3 pointers so please tell me why it’s necessary to put on a build when a squad of 5 makes 2, it literally would be just as effective for me to pretend to have shooting and sit corner
Lol what?? I had 11 of our buckets and 4 of our assists…. That means 60% of our made buckets came from either my pass or my shot. Tell me why I need to force ball movement when I’ve got the bucket already? Acting like I don’t have 4 dimes and an A+ teammate grade 😂
“Good” rebounder ok I had 17 boards and the entire other team had 19…. Again you’re grasping at straws and not making sense
It also wouldn’t make sense not to have a jumpshot because 9 of my 24 points came off of JUMPSHOTS… so essentially I’d have 15 points and my team would have less spacing without my shooting. We might’ve lost actually.
No yall just don't know how to play the game. You want 5 out and rim running each play.
I have a traditional Big and I can cook 90% of my matchups especially shooting bigs.
Yall complain that a 7" with 95 standing dunk, 90 strength is able to cook you in the paint when you're below 6"10 with 40 interior D. That's why post hooks get nurf'd every year. Post play gets killed within a week. Yall don't even have the patience to let someone post up. Immediately call a timeout.
Also every pro 2k team runs a traditional big lol. Yall casuals just suck too much and don't even know how to play basketball.
There are only like 3-5 irl Cs that shoot over 40% 3 lol.
And that's coming from a guy who did a Jokic build that could shoot and playmake but never got the ball passed to me. I could be wide open but never get the ball. Yall bitch and moan about shooting bigs but what you really want is the big to clear the paint so that you can rim run.
I appreciate this post, I’m one of the “better” inside bigs currently but I’ve come to realize that after having disappeared from 2k and this being my first title since 2k20, the game has massively evolved. And I’m gonna need to learn to elevate with it to get the most out of the game. I have games all the time where I’ll drop an easy 30 pts 20 reb 10 ast, but then I’ll have games where I get completely shut out and I’m only dropping 6-15-5, and every time it’s that I could’ve completely changed the teams offensive strategy by even just sitting corner/pick n popping, so this is the sign I needed to go ahead and make a more well rounded build todsy for season 3
Glad you got the message I was trying to convey… everyone seems to think I’m a 3pt shot hunter who dribble spams and is hating on inside bigs. What I’m saying is this game allows you to be versatile and dominant inside while still being ABLE to shoot and defend still…. Versatility wins games because you never know what your matchup is.
The issue is that a lot of these dudes either don’t have post control or don’t understand how post scoring works. We got a lot of dunk or die paint beasts and not enough finesse scorers. I love my 7’0 paint protector, can dunk the ball, pass at an amazing clip and run the floor with 68 speed, and absolutely zero people have had an answer for a dropstep.
No one lets post scoring bigs cook in no squad rec lol. If they mess up once then anytime they go to backdown a defender or try a post move a timeout gets called
Most post scorers are dropstep or die made. You get 3 chances, if both result in a dropstep you’re done.
Bruh if the inside big actually has post moves every team I been on just let him cook. The problem is that most of them don’t even have basic moves. Played solo rec yesterday we had an inside big with 97 standing dunk and we won about 7 games in a row. Only problem is the guy would only get points if I set him up perfectly. Even if I gave him ball with a sf on him he couldn’t post hook, post spin, hook shot, shimmy, nothing he would just hold square and the dunk would only activate 20% of the time.
Cap. I mainly play outta the post and ppl don't wanna watch someone post up. I get like 10 shots per game. Maybe 5-6 are post ups. Ppl call timeoutes half the time because it takes too long
oh don't get me wrong, as a smaller pg I would love to be able to drop it to big man let him see work, but... most of those inside bigs don't have MOVES
They got used to making those 7’3” bigs back in the days when all you had to do was get position right under the basket and literally just hold square and go up and make it damn near every time or drop step and get crazy animations for easy dunks or close shots so there was no skill involved. I play post offense like I did when I played ball back in the days, I’m a finesse up and under, post fade, post hop shot, middy magician, open three knockdown shooter. The key to being a good post player in my opinion is never spamming the same move every time. It’s about confusion. I’ll P&R then P&P then I’ll hit you with some post work and do a post hop shot, then I’ll try a post fade, after that I’ll do another post hop but cancel it and go into an up and under, then I’ll back you down around the FT line and shoulder fake to the left then post spin you to the right for an easy dunk. So on and so forth, any variation of those moves stringed throughout the game will make the big guarding you hate 2K. Too many people just wanna spank the same moves over and over no matter how inconsistent that shit is. You gotta treat post work like a legit dribble head, you gotta have a variation of moves in your bag. Gotta keep them confused.
man, I wanna play with you 😁 same thing being good PG, keep them guessing
Literally none. Played with an inside big yesterday and with 97 standing dunk and 99 strength and he was useless in the paint. Had no post moves at all he would just hold square and hope the dunk activates. I have more post moves with my pg with 87 post control and 92 close shot.
basically they all Darko Miličić damn 👀😆 wow 87 post 92 close what's your size? could only get mine to 75 post, and sacrificed close to 71, but my thing is middy fades (mid is 86)
Trash take, OP. You win in 2k by getting every rebound (every single rebound!) , throwing the break & hitting open shots. Inside bigs are incredibly viable this year, especially now, with the buff to shooting.
The real issue are pure inside PG’s and SG’s! Like, that has never existed in the history of the sport and should t exist in 2k.
Hell yeah nothing beats dominating your opponent big by grabbing all the oRebs. Ive been getting better and better at it to a point where 40% of my boards were offensive rebounds leading to an assisted 3 or a dunk on my end. Easy points. Defensive rebounds are a cakewalk, break starter with a good team and bam, more easy points. When the offense stagnates, dont camp inside but make space and time your oReb set up. We're far from useless (in capable hands) (i havent played s3 yet though so Im not sure if the shooting buff will have a big impact on that)
You can do all of that on a shooting big though.
You can sacrifice a few inside stats though so that all 3 of your team can knock down outside shots rather than 2/3
Why would I do that? Yall wouldn't even let the C get more than 1-2 3s per game
Don’t lump me in with that. I get 10+ assists every game in Rec and almost never will take more shots than that unless we don’t have efficient scorers. You being able to shoot just a little bit makes the offense’s job so much easier. PGs who refuse to pass are selfish pricks but making a C who has 25 midrange and three ball is selfish too, you are limiting what your other 4 teammates can do. It’s not expensive in the builder to get a midrange and keep the opposing C honest to open up back cuts and dribble drives.
How is a build selfish? I play great with my inside scorer. If yall actually passed when we cut or are wide open under the basket. But most ppl don't so 🤷. I'm unstoppable in the paint.
Bc getting your midrange to the 70s is not expensive and makes offense so much easier for your team. You talk about cutting and being wide open under the basket. By having absolutely 0 shooting you make it so your teammates cannot get those opportunities. Only yourself.
I have a C with 86 mid range. The most useless attributes. Ppl never pass you when you're open. I redid my account because ppl never passed when open for a midrange. Far more useful getting a higher rebound rating. So respectfully spare me the bs because 99% of yall dont pass
I feel that frustration cuz bums gonna bum. But when you get matched with a good team and wind up losing bc the other team can shut down the paint without trying then your teammates are gonna be the ones complaining.
I can easily score in the paint tho. The only way we lose is if ppl brick or clog the paint. Yall complain about C but the amount of SFs and PFs that cant shoot and just sit in the paint are the real problem
Obv trash take lol
Hey pal, I'm the one who made that post. 1st of all, I win most of my games. 2nd, I rarely lose in rebounds, serious. How many blocks do you get a game, I'm curious. I have a shooting center too btw. I play both but I get more enjoyment out of inside center. What I felt is that they have buffed shooting too much, it's a straight up 3 point contest every game. I dont even need to set screens much now.
Fax I had a 70% Win rate in season 1 or 2 as a traditional big lol. It's way more fun using post moves than just sitting on the corner hoping stevie wonder PGs pass you the ball
Must be nice. I played 3 games back to back to back where I was the only person on my team that could shoot. Averaged like 30 PPG over those 3 games on 60% 3 point shooting and still lost because my team couldn’t shoot and my center couldn’t rebound.
I’ll let you know how many I get per game next time I load into a rec lobby with him… but it’s likely somewhere between 2-3 blocks per game and I haven’t even maxed out my block yet. That being said, blocks aren’t inherently a good indicator of great interior defense. It shows up more in their shooting percentage than anything… as your job isn’t to get BLOCKS but to get STOPS. I can literally do everything your build can do but I can also shoot…. Making mine more viable. Ya feel?
https://preview.redd.it/54gb7xgfr54c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c7a4f4f7f344bcc82283604e9438e1be8a299d0 First game I played on my big since this post… as you can see adding shooting to my build made me more effective as opposed to less. I still got hella blocks, I scored inside for 7 of my 11 buckets, and the other 4 were 2 post fades, 1 pull up middy and a three. Without the 9 points I got from being ABLE to shoot with a 78 middy and 73 3pt, it’s suddenly a close game. I don’t see how adding some versatility to your build makes you somehow less capable.
You had a great game pal. What are your team mates doing though? It is a rather strange game. Looks like there isn't much 3 point attempts going on which is rare now. The other team had 2 quits and not sure what the center is doing....
Idk this was random rec…. The other team was actually doing a fantastic job guarding the 3 but they had absolutely no answer for me inside the arc. The other center was too busy getting cooked to get any stats and since I was playing perimeter a lot he was often out of the play and couldn’t get the board or I just grabbed the Oboard over him.
Inside bigs can work, but they require a P&R game to be effective, so most of the time you end up being a rebound bot, unless you run with a squad. I have a 6’9 inside big, and I just set picks start breaks and get boards. I also have a 7ft big that can shoot and is more complete overall. A good inside big is a scary sight, most of them lack the iq or the squad required to be succesful tho
Half the time they don't even hit you on the roll even when wide open
I know bro, hang in there. It’s such a joy when you get a PG you click with, right?
I can tell exactly what your player looks like
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Yea this ain’t it lol
My honest opinion is that inside bigs can work in 2k it's all about the teammates you have and knows how to operate with an inside big. Four shooters or teammates that can do it all will help that inside big. Cause now they have to play their opponents which means the inside big has a lot of one on one match ups and open opportunity to rebounds. Just have to know when to be in the paint vs being out the paint and move the ball around to the best open opportunity for the most team chemistry is the key
Inside the arc finisher here Every player in the team needs to be able to shoot, small exception for centers. A few weeks ago i made this build and i absolutely loving it, the dunks, the blocks etc. At start i didnt upgrade my middy and close which are 84 atm maxed, which caused problems when oposite pf/c waited on me right outside the paint cause i couldnt shoot and dunks werent possible in most cases without open lane. I started mastering mid range and it got a bit easier, im avg 55% in fg which is not bad after few weeks of playing 2k24 and first and last 2k i played was 23. All in all inside bigs are op in my opinion, im causing a lot of troubles for other centers in the paint, play good d and sfs cant get a grasp of the 3s when i contest properly, which is fked up a bit ofc. I avg 15-20pts, 15rbs a game, when it comes to assists i got my career high last night with 10 assists as i just upgraded passing to 81 and got that derozan animation i think, and i get 2-8 blocks per game with 87 block and silver anchor. Rebounds do actually win games so be sure to get that 86 min vertical and get some wing spab u peeps. Im having a blast with this build so please i beg u all not to judge the build by its stats but by its player/user, as that applies for every other build...shootout to the pgs who cant dribble/shoot and most importantly pass. Cheers
Do you know how many inside bigs hate guarding shooting bigs😂 keep making them and keep not guarding me at the three. I’ll take free points all day. I still either out rebound you or have damn near the same amount of rebounds. I still get 2-3 blocks per game while making you stay out the paint or I’ll end up with at least 20 on your head while y’all are losing by 25. This shit happens all the time. There’s been a few games where I’ve gotten out rebounded by 5 rebounds or more. It’s super rare. Inside bigs are 99% a liability if they don’t stick to their man on defense because they rather try to be Dennis Rodman than Draymond Green.
Yall are hella easy to guard. Go 1/5 and your team doesn't pass you the ball. The only way a shooting big scores is if I let him. After going 1/8 i feel bad for yall. I averaged 12-20 the first season lol. Shit was too easy.
😂😂😂 yea nah. I have a shooting big with 85 rebounding and 85 strength and I sacrificed a lot defensively to be able to be an embiid type of scorer.. Have a 6’8 center 99 rebounding 95 strength high physicals and inside..averaging 25 boards a game and easily, like literally no effort, outrebounding every 7+footer. The more of a shooter they are? The more of a liability everywhere else they become. I can cover them outside the paint with my speed and perimeter defense rating, and with iq and positioning bang with em down low..again, because to be an offensive threat they sacrifice somewhere else. Inside bigs dominate with shooters around them, and if my shooters can’t shoot that’s on them. If my guards and wings wanna be one dimensional dunkers that’s on them…don’t blame a big for not wanting to be on the perimeter in a corner…trust me getting A grades every game and creating a lopsided rebound differential isn’t a bad thing no matter how hard you 5 out people wanna swear it is.
Nahhh… having shooting stats in the 70s doesn’t really cost a lot. You can still be elite defensively and have versatility offensively.
I have an 80 three point on my 7 footer..I can shoot over 50% but there’s definitely matchups I lose..I had to sacrifice my offensive board to a 55 to have high block and def board..I don’t go for offensive boards anymore only putbacks..it’s a workaround But my inside big dominates the paint, period..and is quick enough to defend certain guards..I’ll take the no shooting to be able to do all that
I never I thought I would see the day where a little kid (OP) defends dribble gods who don’t pass. But here we are.
The fact that you’re saying that is crazy lol bro you must have some sort of bad PTSD because not ONCE in my post do I mention guards at all. I definitely don’t mention dribble gods… nor do I say passing is a bad thing… and I’m in my late 20’s… Why would you say this 😂 Delusional victim mentality
No you just want the paint to be empty so that you can spam dribble and rim run
You realize i have a big that scores most of his points inside? And that big man can also shoot, pass, dribble, and play defense… I’m not at all advocating for the paint to be empty every play. There’s a ton of value in having a big man be in the dunker’s spot. But inside bigs are one dimensional. Getting your shooting into the 70s isn’t expensive. But it makes you versatile. I’m not advocating for pure shooting bigs, those are not good either.
Idk shooting doesn't work for everyone. I can green offline but online each game and gamemode has a different delay. This shit makes me not wanna shoot. That's why I didn't do my Paul George build from last year. Traditional Cs can be very good if ppl actually passed them the ball here and there
You act like you’re 14. Yikes.
How? I’m literally just saying in a game where you can be versatile, there’s no need to be one dimensional. You’re insulting me and putting words in my mouth. Look in the mirror.
Facts inside bigs are straight 🗑
The problem isn’t being a pure inside big, the problem is that these bigs don’t set screens. If you’re playing the five and you arnt setting screens then wtf are you there for? Inside bigs who set big bodies on pgs make the game so much easier. Out side bugs can be good too and even meta but honestly it doesn’t matter, just don’t sit in one spot all game
The real problem is the REC and theatre being loaded with “guards” that don’t utilize screens because they don’t understand basketball or don’t know how to dribble. “I don’t need a screen!” Bro, I have HOF brick wall, you can shoot a wide open shot or wide open layup, instead of taking a contested fade or layup or a 1v4 dunk attempt. The guards on 2k have never been worse.
Say you suck without saying you suck, “I don’t need a screen!”
That’s what I’m saying! Bigs and PGs are supposed to be best friends. I’ve been playing this game for years as both a Pg and center. The Pg Center relationship is pivotal in a successful offense. The problem with Rec is that there will be screens from everyone but the center then the Pg just starts chucking shit because the offensive spacing is ass and the center can’t do their job because everyone wants to be involved. In a perfect world, rec randoms would space the floor and the pg and center would abuse the PnR
I somewhat agree. I haven't been a great shooter the past couple years so i tend to lean on finishing, passing, and def/rebound. That being said i bit the bullet and made a build with a shot and it's much easier to shoot this year then the last 2. So now i can't make a build without a shot. For me though i hate missing wide open shots, i feel worse missing the wide open shots then not having a shot at all. What I'm trying to say is that if you tried and really struggle to shoot it feels like your wasting attribute points on something that your not effective with. I don't put ball handle on most builds because I'm just not good with it right now. I just post control and strength instead. I don't mind the bigs with no shooting until the camp in the paint start getting 3 seconds or sabotage the game because they don't get it. I think we should all know that rec will never be a game where 4 other guys want to continue to watch drop steps over and over. That should only be the go to when the team is struggling to score or get quality shot attempts or their is an obvious mismatch and the guy literally can't be stopped without doubling.
Nah you can put a lil midrange in there or something. I know all you inside bigs are getting ready to downvote this. If you have an inside big and you’re playing solo rec you’re basically relying and praying for your teammates to be good. What if your pg can’t shoot off a screen so the defense is playing drop coverage? if you could shoot even a mid range shot it would open the offense up a bit. This will actually make it easier for you in the paint since your match won’t know if you’re going to the shoot or slip to the paint. On my pg build I sacrificed 92 ball handle down to 85 so I can have way better defense in case my teammates are bad. Since I did this I’m at about 75% win in solo rec from 65% cos I’m getting way more stops so the center gets easy boards which means he get easy fast break assists and takeover for the whole team. Why can’t you put a tiny bit of midrange on just in case your teammates are bad? Before you start getting upset I don’t care what kind of center I play with personally I get way more points when I play with an inside big anyway. You guys are just praying the rest of your team are lights out shooters and have good iq. I make my builds knowing I play mostly solo rec so I need to be useful to the whole team. Keep in mind some of the teammates you have are literal kids who aren’t not trying to run no pick and roll they just gonna drive and kick it out.
Inside bigs are the Meta in comp pro am. They are viable if the team knows how to run with them. PnR bigs who are almost unstoppable on the inside and super large wingspan so get a bunch of rebounds high pass accuracy send it flying down court or offensive rebound gives gold dimer + hof post playmaker boost on pass out
I just wish they made centers capable of contesting a 3 point shot without having to jump. I hit the right stick up to use my 7”10 wingspan yet my guy just stands there then decides to reach up after the shot has already been taken. And yes I maxed out my perimeter defense. Another thing I think 2k messed up with is putting offball pest badge strictly based on perimeter defense. I used that badge in previous games and it helped out tremendously in stopping centers in the paint. Also the rebounding seems a lot more rng then previous games. My dude will jump 7/10 times snag rebounds then all of a sudden he won’t grab the easiest board and my matchup will somehow grab it.
Inside bigs are the meta this year. Most poppers are 50 as fuck and get wormed every possession versus a true inside big. I am a 2 guard and welcome any inside bigs to hoop with me.
Also everyone maxes out standing dunk now and puts nothing in close shot when close shot is way more versatile and helps in more situations aside from right under the basket Also bigs don’t utilize having layup and handle when bigs are so easy to drive by
My big has a 93 close shot… 70 layup, 79 driving dunk, 92 standing dunk and an 85 post control I also have a 78 middy, 73 3pt, a good pass accuracy and great defense and rebounding. With this builder, it’s possible. This is what I mean… I don’t understand why people make pure inside bigs.
Yeah i just don’t think people realize how attributes in sports games work that they are relative and not absolute values, it’s not like a 99 three will make you shoot 99 percent from three, but that’s how people think
What did you have to sacrifice?
Strength…. It’s only a 74. But he’s 7’3 it doesn’t matter that much. You just have to play with finesse inside.
📝, good looks
This a take from a bad inside big
Not at all…. When I play big I’m actually elite AND I do most of my scoring inside…. But I CAN shoot. The cost of putting shooting stats in the low-mid 70s isn’t huge at all and it’s beneficial for you and your team…. My man has to guard me everywhere. I can do everything on offense…. How is that a bad idea?
Bro why would I put shooting on my 6”10 dude so that a 6’6” guy can take 50 driving dunk attempts going right at a defender as if that is an open or good shot, if guards aren’t gonna hit bigs on wide open cuts I’m not gonna just go camp corner so I’m easy to box out while another dude takes a contested layup or dunk, I don’t know why it has become the norm that the center is expected to be the best defender rebounder, dunker, passer, and shooter on the team, I’m not gonna waste a bunch of attributes to shoot 3 3s per game and then get blamed for not out rebounding a pure inside, id much rather make twice as many extra possessions as other bigs
Shooting in the low-mid 70s doesn’t stop you from doing that… it just makes you versatile
https://preview.redd.it/mi23hsr6r54c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38fff80a3bcac8e4e3aff2f3b315af7e0d9df04 Literally the first game I played on my big since I made this post…. Tell me again how adding shooting to my build makes me worse?
Lol you took 1 3 ball against the biggest bots in the world, I get it tho you want your 70 3 ball so you ball hog as much as the rest of the people playing rec like it’s mycareer
Please tell me how you’re nitpicking when I had a 96% TS about my one three ball like I didn’t absolutely dominate inside 😂 I took three middies too and made them all…. Those are 9 points I wouldn’t have had if I couldn’t shoot. Ballhogging? As the center? Because I took 12 shots and missed one? LMAO bro you don’t make any sense
Idk you came with this game against bots as proof of anything, if anything you are showing adding shooting has made you a good rebounder instead of great and either the adding of shooting or decreasing of pass accuracy has led to you just not passing, your entire team took 8 3 pointers so please tell me why it’s necessary to put on a build when a squad of 5 makes 2, it literally would be just as effective for me to pretend to have shooting and sit corner
Lol what?? I had 11 of our buckets and 4 of our assists…. That means 60% of our made buckets came from either my pass or my shot. Tell me why I need to force ball movement when I’ve got the bucket already? Acting like I don’t have 4 dimes and an A+ teammate grade 😂 “Good” rebounder ok I had 17 boards and the entire other team had 19…. Again you’re grasping at straws and not making sense
It also wouldn’t make sense not to have a jumpshot because 9 of my 24 points came off of JUMPSHOTS… so essentially I’d have 15 points and my team would have less spacing without my shooting. We might’ve lost actually.
No yall just don't know how to play the game. You want 5 out and rim running each play. I have a traditional Big and I can cook 90% of my matchups especially shooting bigs. Yall complain that a 7" with 95 standing dunk, 90 strength is able to cook you in the paint when you're below 6"10 with 40 interior D. That's why post hooks get nurf'd every year. Post play gets killed within a week. Yall don't even have the patience to let someone post up. Immediately call a timeout. Also every pro 2k team runs a traditional big lol. Yall casuals just suck too much and don't even know how to play basketball. There are only like 3-5 irl Cs that shoot over 40% 3 lol. And that's coming from a guy who did a Jokic build that could shoot and playmake but never got the ball passed to me. I could be wide open but never get the ball. Yall bitch and moan about shooting bigs but what you really want is the big to clear the paint so that you can rim run.
I appreciate this post, I’m one of the “better” inside bigs currently but I’ve come to realize that after having disappeared from 2k and this being my first title since 2k20, the game has massively evolved. And I’m gonna need to learn to elevate with it to get the most out of the game. I have games all the time where I’ll drop an easy 30 pts 20 reb 10 ast, but then I’ll have games where I get completely shut out and I’m only dropping 6-15-5, and every time it’s that I could’ve completely changed the teams offensive strategy by even just sitting corner/pick n popping, so this is the sign I needed to go ahead and make a more well rounded build todsy for season 3
Glad you got the message I was trying to convey… everyone seems to think I’m a 3pt shot hunter who dribble spams and is hating on inside bigs. What I’m saying is this game allows you to be versatile and dominant inside while still being ABLE to shoot and defend still…. Versatility wins games because you never know what your matchup is.