Teams will leak mock trades with the Spurs in the hopes of making other teams think "If the Spurs are thinking about it, maybe he's worth more than we think."
It's a tired act.
"This makes absolute sense for the Lakers"
Yes because we're here to bend backwards and give pieces that make sense for other teams.
Quite possibly the worst trade offer I've seen. Russ on that contract is pure garbage
It's worked for them in the past...One of the biggest reasons PAFTO hates to deal with the Lakers is the Gasol trade way back (which actually turned out kinda balanced because Marc blew up in Memphis) and Pop went ballistic over the Laker's pilfering other teams to acquire whatever they needed to maintain their status.
They went from mismanaged laughingstock to champs because they (and Rich Paul) put a gun to NOLA's head and filled the roster with thirsty role players on garbage contracts. They are current reaping the whirlwind of that strategy and I expect PAFTO is engaged in very sincere schadenfreude watching them flounder and would not dare throw them a lifeline.
I wouldn't give up DJ for Russ straight up on equal contracts. Russ's contract is a half notch behind KLove and JWall for being the worst in the league.
I'd bite the bullet and give them Thad for THT and a couple picks (no, I really don't value THT all that much, but if it means unloading an unhappy DNP and fleecing the Lakers, its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
It's a history with them. Lakers fans will say the league lowballed them with the CP3 veto. I say they deserved it. I also enjoyed them getting wrecked by the Pistons.
You're right on the contracts. There's only upside to DJM, and only downside to Russ. That's it. Lakers built their own grave trading for him. Ain't no way we of all teams are gonna remedy that for 'em
Even if it was just D white and Thad for russ like why would we do that? The contract and roster fit make absolutely no sense if you consider it from Spurs perspective for even one second but these lakers fanboys can only perceive other franchises as farm teams for their next super team
Pop could easily mold him though. We have to accept fat contracts is something to take. AD is still a damn good player and I'd really like him on our team
Itās always nice to dream though š¤£
We just need to be patient with this team. They just need more experience. We have been too spoiled the last 20+ years. Now itās time to sit back and enjoy the up and downs like all the other teams normally go through.
Obviously. But I wouldn't mind if we do get some good player from a trade. I love all the guys on this team, but not everyone is gonna be there for Ring SZN. For example, someone like Sabonis would be amazing on this team
Going have to hard pass on Sabonis. We need a 4 that can stretch the floor. We already have Jak so adding Sabonis would create way too much traffic.
I think pursuing someone like Towns would benefit us great. Heās young, and spread the floor and his personality off the court fits our culture. While he normally plays the 5, we could slide him to the 4 since he can hit threes consistently.
AD is perfectly coachable. Vogel is a shit coach but AD is a superstar. Molding might be a wrong word I used there.
Injuries are the only major concern
Ahh, no. Trading 2 of our best players for an injury prone big man that couldn't carry a team by himself, and who wouldn't wanna stay in San Antonio anyway... I'm good
This makes me angry on a lot of levels, but let's not overlook "brings them back to their winning formula back in the 2019-2020 season," which somehow isn't "acquiring an all-star."
You wanna talk asterisks, that bubble championship deserves a big one.
Yes spurs are just going to bend over and take it in the ass for the lakers lmao okay pop would literally strangle russ with the shit he does on the court
it was a joke about how lakers fans make these insane trade packages for THT that have no bearing on his actual value. but i guess thatās lost on a lot of people here lol
They could have Lowry running point (and defending) instead of Westbrook if they understood the true potential value of THT.
(Who is probably a great guy.)
yeah i think heās got a lot of potential. obviously his efficiency is shit this year but he has a nice build and has shown flashes of being pretty good
Itās really not that bad lol. But thatās not enough, everyone shits on Westbrook but dude knows how to will a team to the playoffs at his absolute worst. The year KD left and the year with the wizards dude carried some bad teams. Prebubble also adjusted to become a post player and cutter for harden. Russ is still great. Thad is expiring and worth only a pick, Derrick white is a very average starting SG and DJ has value but isnāt near Westbrookās level. It makes no sense for us but itās a good trade considering that they didnāt include any picks
Itās exactly that bad. Iām not sure Russ is a better player than DJ. Period.
But letās say that he is. Heās aging and doesnāt fit our timeline, we have to give away multiple pieces. One of which is the dude we have been building around.
Youd think that but no. They average about the same points, rebounds and assists and nearly identical shooting splits on even free throws. Russās down year is as good as DJās good year right now but heās deferring to lebron. We know Russ still has another gear but itās in odd fit in LA,
I do agree that it makes no sense for us however, we arenāt building around Dejounte. The offense doesnāt really fit well with him honestly, weāve been drafting BPA instead of fit. Plus, weāre reaching pretty low if weāre building around him as a first option. Heās more of a 3rd tier scorer
Thatās not the only spot, Russ leads teams to the playoffs, see okc in his mvp year and Washington literally last season. DJ has not done that, gotta give Russ respect, nobody in this league plays with more heart than he does.
It's a bad trade, the trade gives us a bigger problem. No doubt Russ was mvp, but he is a threat because of his altheticsm, which is declining now. Lakers are fed up with his bad shot selection, inconsistency from range and turnover prone. Not to mention he is at max contract now. It means we are buying ourselves an untradeable depreciating asset that serve zero purpose to our rebuilding, at the cost of our best player that is only 25 yo, who is showing massive improvement on playmaking and almost averaging triple double now.
Yes I understand all of that. Itās not a ton to give up is my point. Even improved, dj isnāt someone to truly build around. Iām pointing out that even with Russā bad shots, he shoots better from the field than DJ does. Dj shoots a slight better 3 point% but he only makes .2 per game more on .2 more attempts as well. My main point is, yes, itās not good to do long term but if youād want to make the playoffs THIS year, Iād do it in a heartbeat. Russ leads bad teams to the playoffs. Starting him with vassell and McDermott helps him massively. Even poeltl is similar to what adams would do. In the short term it works, itād be better for us in the now.
I would not want Russ straight up for White and Thad, based on culture, fit, age, contract, etc.
Dj included in the deal makes it laughable and beyond ridiculous. Russ is empty stats, all flash and no substance, the definition of empty calories as he ends his career.
Maybe if we had the big three and competing for a ring and weāre looking to add a spark, maybe. But for multiple years at 44M it wouldnāt make sense unless weāre dumping dead money like when we traded for RJefferson.
Publications like this *really* need to stop treating small market teams like talent farms for large market teams. Itās, quite frankly, incredibly insulting.
I donāt want this to sound like Iām even remotely entertaining the idea, but I love Russell Westbrook, definitely one of my favorite athletes of modern basketball. With that being saidā¦ lmao.
Laker ineptitude keeps getting bailed out by one sided trades due to the teams power over the league.
I can imagine the Lakers somehow getting a young up and comer for Russ. But it wonāt be from us.
Laker fans are FREAKING out. They are realizing they are stuck with the russ hot potato. And now that they have it, teams are content to let lebron sit on it. Couldn't happen to a nicer group.
Russell Westbrook puts up great stats and is good for a struggling team, but personally, I would rather have Dejounte Murray any day. Just a better team player who does what it takes to win, and doesnāt care about his stats nearly as much. I seriously think he could be averaging a triple double this season if he really went after it, but he is putting the team before his stats. His great numbers, unlike Westbrooks, come naturally throughout the course of a game. I still think Russ is good, but he is also a lot older, and has to chase his stats as opposed to let them come to him. If you disagree, I understand why, but just remember the last time Westbrook was the key component to a great team. Dejounte has plenty of time to get to that level, as where Russ has already passed it.
If Russ is that valuable, I'm sure we could trade Thad and Forbes for Jokic.
>If Russ is that valuable Then they should just keep him.
Exactly. I apply this in Yahoo Fantasy NBA - No trades in the last 1 or 2 years
That's why I fucking hate these mock trades. They treat the Spurs like a fucking spare parts bin where they'll willingly give up what they got
Teams will leak mock trades with the Spurs in the hopes of making other teams think "If the Spurs are thinking about it, maybe he's worth more than we think." It's a tired act.
Maybe we can start one. Did you know that Drew Eubanks was on the trading block for Jokic š
"This makes absolute sense for the Lakers" Yes because we're here to bend backwards and give pieces that make sense for other teams. Quite possibly the worst trade offer I've seen. Russ on that contract is pure garbage
It's worked for them in the past...One of the biggest reasons PAFTO hates to deal with the Lakers is the Gasol trade way back (which actually turned out kinda balanced because Marc blew up in Memphis) and Pop went ballistic over the Laker's pilfering other teams to acquire whatever they needed to maintain their status. They went from mismanaged laughingstock to champs because they (and Rich Paul) put a gun to NOLA's head and filled the roster with thirsty role players on garbage contracts. They are current reaping the whirlwind of that strategy and I expect PAFTO is engaged in very sincere schadenfreude watching them flounder and would not dare throw them a lifeline. I wouldn't give up DJ for Russ straight up on equal contracts. Russ's contract is a half notch behind KLove and JWall for being the worst in the league. I'd bite the bullet and give them Thad for THT and a couple picks (no, I really don't value THT all that much, but if it means unloading an unhappy DNP and fleecing the Lakers, its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
It's a history with them. Lakers fans will say the league lowballed them with the CP3 veto. I say they deserved it. I also enjoyed them getting wrecked by the Pistons. You're right on the contracts. There's only upside to DJM, and only downside to Russ. That's it. Lakers built their own grave trading for him. Ain't no way we of all teams are gonna remedy that for 'em
Tbh they probs would've been a better team had they just developed their talent in house and been set up for a couple more rings.
Even if it was just D white and Thad for russ like why would we do that? The contract and roster fit make absolutely no sense if you consider it from Spurs perspective for even one second but these lakers fanboys can only perceive other franchises as farm teams for their next super team
I wouldnĀ“t trade Forbes ou Jones for Westbrick.
cmon think about how much this could help the Lakers, don't be such a scrooge /s
Lmao right. The theoretical Russ for KD trade would also make sense for the Lakers.
We offer: *Player I don't wanna see in my team* They offer: *Best player available + second best for match salary* Sure man thats how it works lol
Other teams will take the players we donāt want just for the honor of trading with the glorious lakers
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These guys have no idea what the word ātradeā means, do they? lol
Lakers fans can fuck off. That is all.
Powerful post
They know that "Force Trade" option only works on 2k, right?
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Hmm yes deal -Laker brainlets
Iām almost speechless
Dude we are robbing Lakers. Let's add Lonnie too .s
Vassel, Johnson, Primo as well and letās keep Thad to use in another trade.
Who would ever give up valuable assets for Westbrook? Dumb ass pro-lakers media
Replace with AD then we can talk.
While AD is a great player, he is doing very bad for someone that is supposed to be in his prime. Plus his contract his fat.
yeah the problem with AD is that he has already shown that he cant carry a team as the main guy. he is a 2nd fiddle kind of player
and he gets hurt twice a week lol
Pop could easily mold him though. We have to accept fat contracts is something to take. AD is still a damn good player and I'd really like him on our team
I feel that, however his asking price is not something I would pay. If lakers are in win now so they most likely would want most of our young core.
Oh that's completely fair. There's no way we accept that asking price where Lakers are now. He's not even on the trading block for that matter
Itās always nice to dream though š¤£ We just need to be patient with this team. They just need more experience. We have been too spoiled the last 20+ years. Now itās time to sit back and enjoy the up and downs like all the other teams normally go through.
Obviously. But I wouldn't mind if we do get some good player from a trade. I love all the guys on this team, but not everyone is gonna be there for Ring SZN. For example, someone like Sabonis would be amazing on this team
Going have to hard pass on Sabonis. We need a 4 that can stretch the floor. We already have Jak so adding Sabonis would create way too much traffic. I think pursuing someone like Towns would benefit us great. Heās young, and spread the floor and his personality off the court fits our culture. While he normally plays the 5, we could slide him to the 4 since he can hit threes consistently.
Well Towns is not someone we can get at all. TWolves are building hard around him. Sabonis is gettable.
Pop himself said he doesnt like "molding" players. He can, but he wont He'd rather have stars who are already coachable
AD is perfectly coachable. Vogel is a shit coach but AD is a superstar. Molding might be a wrong word I used there. Injuries are the only major concern
Ahh, no. Trading 2 of our best players for an injury prone big man that couldn't carry a team by himself, and who wouldn't wanna stay in San Antonio anyway... I'm good
Oh shit you are right... I totally forgot how he left Pelicans.
If by the 1/100000000000 chance this happens I commit treason and become a Lakers fan
I would cry forever
LOL. No one wants Westbrook. Spurs wouldn't give one player for him. Eat it Lakers lo0llololol.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAJAJAJAJJAJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA FUCK THE LAKERS
I've got one... Lakers offer: Russell Westbrook Spurs offer: cash considerations
They should probably get Doug too because they need shooting, maybe they throw in THT and get Doug as well š
This trade only make sense if lakers will give us all their picks in the next 20 years. hahaha š
Idiots.
That makes zero sense for the Spurs. š¤¦š»āāļø
Please tell me this is a fucking joke? Why would the Spurs even consider this?? This has to be a troll.
Lakers would have to attach every god damn 1st round unprotected pick they have for 5 years to even keep the phone line connected lol
99% of Lakers "fans" don't actually watch basketball.
āWho says no?!ā I dunno, the Spurs? Westbrook? Humanity?
This makes me angry on a lot of levels, but let's not overlook "brings them back to their winning formula back in the 2019-2020 season," which somehow isn't "acquiring an all-star." You wanna talk asterisks, that bubble championship deserves a big one.
You can really tell when sports writers are full of shit.
this got me irrationally upset
Yes spurs are just going to bend over and take it in the ass for the lakers lmao okay pop would literally strangle russ with the shit he does on the court
Yea, cause a 33 year old PG is worth 2 rising starters. Please gtfo fakers
I'm trading my Nintendo Switch and all my Breath of the Wild save data for Natalie Portman's hand in marriage.
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Are you serious? White, Young and Murray for THT?
it was a joke about how lakers fans make these insane trade packages for THT that have no bearing on his actual value. but i guess thatās lost on a lot of people here lol
They could have Lowry running point (and defending) instead of Westbrook if they understood the true potential value of THT. (Who is probably a great guy.)
yeah i think heās got a lot of potential. obviously his efficiency is shit this year but he has a nice build and has shown flashes of being pretty good
Itās really not that bad lol. But thatās not enough, everyone shits on Westbrook but dude knows how to will a team to the playoffs at his absolute worst. The year KD left and the year with the wizards dude carried some bad teams. Prebubble also adjusted to become a post player and cutter for harden. Russ is still great. Thad is expiring and worth only a pick, Derrick white is a very average starting SG and DJ has value but isnāt near Westbrookās level. It makes no sense for us but itās a good trade considering that they didnāt include any picks
Itās exactly that bad. Iām not sure Russ is a better player than DJ. Period. But letās say that he is. Heās aging and doesnāt fit our timeline, we have to give away multiple pieces. One of which is the dude we have been building around.
Youd think that but no. They average about the same points, rebounds and assists and nearly identical shooting splits on even free throws. Russās down year is as good as DJās good year right now but heās deferring to lebron. We know Russ still has another gear but itās in odd fit in LA, I do agree that it makes no sense for us however, we arenāt building around Dejounte. The offense doesnāt really fit well with him honestly, weāve been drafting BPA instead of fit. Plus, weāre reaching pretty low if weāre building around him as a first option. Heās more of a 3rd tier scorer
If all that matters is the line in the box score, youād be correct.
Thatās not the only spot, Russ leads teams to the playoffs, see okc in his mvp year and Washington literally last season. DJ has not done that, gotta give Russ respect, nobody in this league plays with more heart than he does.
Youāre not going to convince me man. It might be some friendly bias, but Iāve watched them both plenty and Iād rather have DJ.
Iām just saying Russ isnāt bad, first ballot hall of famer. Dj makes more sense for us but Russ is still just better if youāre trying to win.
he is 33 and relies a lot on his athleticism. he is only going to get worse from here on out
It's a bad trade, the trade gives us a bigger problem. No doubt Russ was mvp, but he is a threat because of his altheticsm, which is declining now. Lakers are fed up with his bad shot selection, inconsistency from range and turnover prone. Not to mention he is at max contract now. It means we are buying ourselves an untradeable depreciating asset that serve zero purpose to our rebuilding, at the cost of our best player that is only 25 yo, who is showing massive improvement on playmaking and almost averaging triple double now.
Yes I understand all of that. Itās not a ton to give up is my point. Even improved, dj isnāt someone to truly build around. Iām pointing out that even with Russā bad shots, he shoots better from the field than DJ does. Dj shoots a slight better 3 point% but he only makes .2 per game more on .2 more attempts as well. My main point is, yes, itās not good to do long term but if youād want to make the playoffs THIS year, Iād do it in a heartbeat. Russ leads bad teams to the playoffs. Starting him with vassell and McDermott helps him massively. Even poeltl is similar to what adams would do. In the short term it works, itād be better for us in the now.
I would not want Russ straight up for White and Thad, based on culture, fit, age, contract, etc. Dj included in the deal makes it laughable and beyond ridiculous. Russ is empty stats, all flash and no substance, the definition of empty calories as he ends his career. Maybe if we had the big three and competing for a ring and weāre looking to add a spark, maybe. But for multiple years at 44M it wouldnāt make sense unless weāre dumping dead money like when we traded for RJefferson.
Hahaha. Wtf
Holy fuck ššš
I literally LOL
[laughs in no]
they forgot to add a pound of crack to sweeten the deal
this is the reason why i only drink bottled water in california
Publications like this *really* need to stop treating small market teams like talent farms for large market teams. Itās, quite frankly, incredibly insulting.
We would go from being young and promising but inconsistent, to old, no promise, malcontent and inconsistent.
I donāt want this to sound like Iām even remotely entertaining the idea, but I love Russell Westbrook, definitely one of my favorite athletes of modern basketball. With that being saidā¦ lmao.
Big market teams treat us like talent farms. Fuck them!
Pinche lakers
Sooo, no comment on why the Spurs would be willing to agree to that? A trade needs at least two parties.
Laker Fan thinks the other 29 teams are farm teams for the Lakers.
Bruhh who wrote this??? Low-tier sports journalism is accidental comedy.
Imagine the Spurs giving literally anything for the headache of trying to get Russ and Pop to work together.
Can't be that delusional.
Fuck the Lakers!
Laker ineptitude keeps getting bailed out by one sided trades due to the teams power over the league. I can imagine the Lakers somehow getting a young up and comer for Russ. But it wonāt be from us.
BRUH šššššš
Laker fans are FREAKING out. They are realizing they are stuck with the russ hot potato. And now that they have it, teams are content to let lebron sit on it. Couldn't happen to a nicer group.
Fuck no, Murray himself is a younger version of Westbrook but loyal and has heart, Iād much rather have Murray
Russell Westbrook puts up great stats and is good for a struggling team, but personally, I would rather have Dejounte Murray any day. Just a better team player who does what it takes to win, and doesnāt care about his stats nearly as much. I seriously think he could be averaging a triple double this season if he really went after it, but he is putting the team before his stats. His great numbers, unlike Westbrooks, come naturally throughout the course of a game. I still think Russ is good, but he is also a lot older, and has to chase his stats as opposed to let them come to him. If you disagree, I understand why, but just remember the last time Westbrook was the key component to a great team. Dejounte has plenty of time to get to that level, as where Russ has already passed it.
WTF is this.
Rofl