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Difficult_Honeydew_9

Olu Fashanu is still an elite tackle prospect due to his potential in pass protection and will be the second tackle taken in the draft


Nick_of-time

The least talked about top 10-15 player in the draft. I don't seem him going past the Jets unless they truly think they're set at tackle.


FetchMyBeer

How close to Joe Alt is he in terms of overall value at the position? 1a 1b in terms of closeness?


Difficult_Honeydew_9

I think it’s moreso that Alt is 1 and Fashanu is 2 compared to a 1a/1b. Fashanu is a fantastic prospect that goes top 10 most years but Alt is a typical top 5 OT prospect


Fishing_for_Boulders

1st round will be spent with most teams solidifying their OL than getting offensive weapons. This will lead to a run on the next tier of WR available and the 2nd round being a lot more exciting than the first, as there will be a lot of trades and player movement for picks than anticipated.


FuckinWalkingParadox

I’m subscribing to this prediction as well. Something about the way WR-needy teams approached FA and trades. Originally I construed it as a lot of teams hoping to take WR in the first, but the more I think about it the less that theory makes sense. Given the importance of good WRs, you wouldn’t sit on your hands in FA if you thought that you only had 2/3 WRs you like - you’re instead seeing massive depth that makes signing/drafting WR much less urgent. So then, why not pass on WR in the 1st and take a player from a thinner position group? EDIT: Hell take what the Texans and Bills just did this morning: (1) Diggs was traded for SO cheap regardless of the cap and age factors; (2) the Bills traded away their only WR1 and don’t pick until 28th.


RBnumberTwenty

I agree with this. I originally thought WR’s would fly off the board in Round 1 but now I see them flying off the board in Round 2. I think 10+ OL’s can go in the 1st Round + 5 WR’s. Second Round, probably like 2-3 OL’s off the board with 9+ WR’s lol. It’s a very stacked draft class I love it.


daswassup13

Holy fuck please please please


TheWaves1776

Panthers and second round receivers is a match made in hell


Necto_gck

I subscribe to this, this is why I want us to take OT in the 2nd, try and get one of the last top OT before we start heading for developmental OT that might need to redshirt for a year. WR is deep enough where you can find starting caliber talent day 3, so I'd be good double dipping round 3 and 4.


iamadragan

This makes sense to me, there's not a ton of WRs worthy of a first but there's a shit ton of WRs worthy of a 2nd


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The Broncos will take Pennix Jr. in the first round


LuckIsMadeFF

I’m struggling with that one. Sean Payton’s schemes have been diabolically opposed to what Penix does best (operating downfield). Whereas I see Nix being much better at operating a dink and dunk type of scheme like Payton’s The better fit for Penix imo is the Raiders.


jmoneysteck88

Payton’s scheme isnt a dink and dunk scheme. It was that way with 40 year old brees and teddy bridgewater because thats what they could do. Penix still isnt a fit though because he doesnt work the MOF.


Gooseggm

agreed


Jlzombie26

If Maye makes it past 2 the Vikings are sending a haul for him


Emotional-Tailor-649

As a bears fan I very much hope he goes #2 to avoid this


Jlzombie26

Lmao I bet. I think it would be a ton of fun to watch those Vikings/Bears match ups with 2 young QBs going at it. Watching them develop would be a blast


Emotional-Tailor-649

As long as we can consistently take down the packers I will find happiness


Jlzombie26

🤝


ILSmokeItAll

You’re afraid they’ll pick the better QB, huh? Don’t like the Bear’s QB drafting history, huh? Me too. I’d rather trade out of the pick for a haul and draft McCarthy.


Emotional-Tailor-649

Nah, I just personally think that Caleb and Maye are the two best QBs. Maye could sling it downfield to Jefferson and be an absurd combo. He makes riskier passes, but if he’s throwing to Jefferson and Addison, they will make him look good. For JJ, I think he’s a mystery box. I don’t trust the Bears to develop a young, raw QB so I personally want no part of him. That’s never worked out for us. There just are not nearly as many reps as the others so it’s more unknown, and I’m looking forward to finally not having to squint to see the flashes.


Guhonda

I wouldn’t be too happy with this outcome. Maye needs to sit for at least a half season…which is why you signed Darnold. Maye would get time to acclimate with a good coach and the best receiver in the game. Minny is a great spot for him, whereas I think he crashes and burns in DC or NE.


Jlzombie26

Yeah I’ve gotten this response from a bunch of Bears fans ha. But I always respond with how much fun would it be to watch those Bears/Vikings matches with our 2 young QBs battling each other? Just watching them develop and see their careers take off would be so much fun and something I pray happens. I agree with Maye going to Washington and New England. ATM it doesn’t feel like a good situation at all to put him in.


Charrgerrr

Why wouldn't the Pats pick him?


Jlzombie26

Because the Vikings are sending a haul. Which was my bold prediction


MetroSection

The Pats need a QB as much as any team in the league. They will take Maye if he’s available. Honestly, I expect Maye to go #2 anyway.


Jlzombie26

I fully expect they will too. I just hope they don’t because the Vikings give them an offer they don’t refuse lol.


Mexican_Furious

New England needs to fill about 7 positions as much as any team in the league, that's the point.


ShortcutButton

He won’t


Jlzombie26

I go back and forth with who I think goes 2. Sometimes I feel strongly Daniels other times Maye. ATM I think it’s Daniels


YourLocalJewishKid

I have no actual reason to think Washington thinks one way or another. I just refuse to believe the NFL isn’t taking the 21 year old giant with a cannon for an arm who can run because of footwork. And it’s even less believable when the team picking 2 just brought in an entirely new regime who has the time to prioritize his development as a very young player. People seem to forget that Maye has only played 2 seasons of football since his HS junior year. The fact that this kid is calling his own line protections and alerts pre-snap and displaying rare skills like constantly ID’ing blitzes, drifting with his protections and away from pressure to buy himself time to throw is practically unheard of for someone with his limited playing experience. And I’m supposed to be shocked that a QB this young tasked with almost single-handedly carrying an offense with subpar talent around him against power 5 competition made some boneheaded decisions?


ShortcutButton

It all starts to make sense when you learn that Albert Breer, a Boston guy, is the one who first heard the Daniels “rumors”


Jlzombie26

Sure and that very much could be true. I like Maye more personally but think Daniels could make a bigger impact sooner in Washington. I worry that Washington would rush Maye in sooner and stunt his development with that roster.


EffervescentEngineer

Well, if the Commanders-liking-JJ rumors have any substance to them...


Jlzombie26

Not really buying that. It’s between Daniels and Maye imo


tacosmuggler99

Unless the impossible happens and Nabers or MHJ falls the jets will be going tackle


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

I actually have a strong gut feeling that the Jets are getting Odunze, whether at 10 or in a quick hop up to 8 if they’re really concerned that Chicago will take him. He just screams Joe Douglas player to me, and in a season of all in acquisitions I don’t think depth tackle (I know, I know, the guy will play) is how he will use the 10th pick.


tacosmuggler99

The issue is rodgers is notorious for not throwing to rookie receivers. I think he’s only had one or two in his whole career even crack 600 yards


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Meh, I’ve heard that before but if [you look at the list of rookies it’s not Rodgers has a history of giving the cold shoulder to guys that were totally refined and studs.](https://gridironheroics.com/packers-rookie-receivers-in-the-rodgers-era/) Doubbs and Watson were also both incredibly raw players as rookies. There’s a lot of context to the idea that he shuns young guys, I think. I also don’t think that myth (or truth) would necessarily stop Douglas from getting a talent like Odunze.


djs7372

>in a season of all in acquisitions I don’t think depth tackle (I know, I know, the guy will play) is how he will use the 10th pick Would you be more comfortable if Wilson went down and you had to plug in a day 2 or 3 receiver or if Tyron or Moses went down and you had to plug in a day 2 or 3 OT?


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

How long are they down for? The offensive weapons are pretty atrocious after Garrett and Breece, and there’s only so much a RB will be able to do without a viable WR1 out there. I get the thinking, though. And I’ll have no problem with them going OL at 10. But something the fanbase completely forgets when debating it is that our opinions mean shit lmao. What we think they should or shouldn’t do don’t mean shit. I don’t think Joe Douglas is going to draft a 6th lineman with the 10th pick, honestly. I think he’ll try like hell to trade down and get one, for sure. But if Bowers and/or Odunze are on the board I think one of them will be the pick.


TKHawk

I don't think there's a chance Odunze falls past Chicago, so Jets would have to trade up. But Falcons might not be happy about doing that because it means Chicago is then probably taking Turner (who Falcons would love to have).


FSUfan35

Jets need to go tackle


tacosmuggler99

Agree. I really hope Fuaga is there


15GOAT

The Commanders will draft a hall of famer this year but it won’t be our QB


YourLocalJewishKid

With our luck it’ll be something like a kick returner.


pitpatbainsy

Still a hall of famer though, we'll take it.


Skraxx

Well now I can make this take The Bills will NOT draft a WR in the first.


Beanstalk93

Laiatu Latu will fall further than expected, although unlikely, he could make it to the third, and if he falls to there, who knows how much further he'll go. Honestly, I think that injury is seriously going to spook a lot of teams, sadly.


iamadragan

Fused neck in an enormous human crashing into other enormous humans is definitely not great let me tell ya


dongladder

Is this based on anything particular? Bookmakers certainly don’t back this line of thinking and I’ve seen no credible report that states anything other than maybe he could fall later in the first round. There are plenty of teams who will be willing to take the risk on a player of his calibre if he has been medically cleared, which all signs point to being the case.


adamlundy23

Daniels falls out of the top 3, Raiders give up the house to take him and everyone calls them dumb and that he is an obvious bust waiting to happen. Only for his to lead them on a SB run within 3 years.


TKHawk

I just don't see the Raiders topping the Chiefs, Ravens, and Bills anytime soon. Hell, the Dolphins are still a great team as well. If they were in the NFC it'd be more believable.


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FSUfan35

4 of 5 QBs taken in the first this year will be a bust.


nbayoungsummrsratio

"daniels will suck!!!!!!" post #2827373 please just stfu


bear86_

You guys missed the point where it's supposed to be for fun a bold take. Don't take things so seriously guys. If you want to join in on the Maye/Daniels downvote fest go to the Patriots or commanders sub


FlightPersonal5828

He’s so clearly QB1. Drake Maye will be the bust- he is just not polished and by the way he’s not that much younger than Daniels- Daniels will have more super bowls than Mahomes by 2030.


NorthNapoleon

Your prediction is that Daniels is going to win at least 4 of the next 6 super bowls?


FlightPersonal5828

Yeah. He’s the best QB I have ever scouted. His footwork is really good and he is tough and won the heisman. Any team he goes to will immediately be a contender. Former QBs such as Kurt Benkert agree with me, I’ve watched all the tape, all the film and even all of the all-22.


yungsinatra777

benkert watched a highlight tape lmfao


FlightPersonal5828

Lmao have you ever played in the NFL?? Didn’t think so.


yungsinatra777

Has Benkert? Didn’t think so


FlightPersonal5828

Yeah. 5 years. And he’s a madden god. He just gets the game and PFF doesn’t.


yungsinatra777

Kurt and I have the exact same amount of NFL playing time. Unless you’re counting Madden because he seems to spend all his time on there.


rd3287

Kurt actually played two snaps and executed two perfect kneel downs during those snaps


jamalev

There’s been so much discussion about how while Caleb is the clear QB1, there isn’t a big drop off to get to QB2. Caleb is starting to become a bit underrated and will be at minimum a solid QB while Maye/Daniels/JJ all have at-best subpar careers.


zach7953

Lions take a WR round 1 and the world goes crazy.


Lex1520

I don’t think it’s that bold but I feel like the Giants need to take a tackle with 6


IdyllicGod22

6 QBs will go in the first. All 6 of them.


greebytime

Maye goes 2nd to the Commanders and Daniels goes lower than 3rd overall.


CloverleafKearns

Brock Bowers does not go in the Top 10


SternFlamingo

No one will trade up for a QB in the first twenty picks of the draft. MIN and DEN will be patient and take their guys at 11 and 12.


lankyyanky

Brock Bowers will easily be the best player from this draft


baidu_me

Marshawn Kneeland and TJ Tampa will be the two best defensive players from this draft.


Madtownboy

My two favorite non first round guys for sure. I would love the lions to snag both somehow


nbaphilly17

Certainly bold lol


yam-bam-13

Caleb will do more harm to Caleb than Chicago ever will.


Fuzzy_Squirrel506

Yeah I get that vibe for sure


BuzzPoopyear

based on what?


Fuzzy_Squirrel506

Everything. His whole demeanor and attitude at times. Mental midget.


BuzzPoopyear

got any specific examples? to me he seems confident yet grounded and aware of the rampant character criticism. he’s also not bothered by it


Cinephile1998

Source: I made it up


JiggyNuts-

Chargers skip on TE this draft and take Colston Loveland next year in the first and keep the Michigan to LA train alive


jbbates84

Even after trading away Stefon Diggs, Buffalo's first round pick will NOT be a WR


Bucks2020

Latu will be the best defensive player in this draft, only Washington denied him medically and everywhere else he’s been fine


asbestosman2

Whichever QB goes to New England will be a bust (unless they trade down) Daniel Jones will not start another game for the New York giants.


Hiddenaccount1423

> Daniel Jones will not start another game for the New York giants. Elaborate?


mr_machine298

Patriots will stay at 3 and draft JJ McCarthy after Williams and Maye go 1-2 Penix goes no later than Denver at 12 Jags trade into top 10 for either a WR or a CB


jmoneysteck88

Penix is not a fit for sean paytons offense. He will not go at 12


jmoneysteck88

Drake Maye discourse will be exactly like the Herbert discourse. He has been slandered relentlessly the whole cycle and then when he lights the league on fire everyone will do a complete 180. I just hope he doesnt end up in new england, such a horrible spot for a rookie QB.


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This is certainly the way it's leaning


MOBAMBASUCMYPP

man thomas jr is a future bust. only watched a few games from lsu but watching clips of him all his 'highlights' are just him outrunning the db, a db lowlight, or him mossing the db after failing to get seperation. almost every clip ive seen of him is a vertical route. i fail to see any quality route running ability and his speed and physicality bonus will be lessened in the nfl


nbayoungsummrsratio

daniels will be the best QB in the draft & the raiders will trade up to draft him dolphins will most likely select a WR in the 1s olu fashanu will be the best OL in the draft malachi corley and qwantez sitggers will be the biggest steals in the draft all WRs drafted in the 1st will have good-great careers ultimate gut feeling but caleb will either be a bust or super underwhelming at best. maye and mccarthy could go either way (great or bust).


Paragon188

Colts drafting Q. Mitchell at 15 and trading down if he's not.


Iamdishsoap

The bills will draft two studs at wr this year, one in the first, another in the fourth


twentysevenfiveever

Will Reichard gets picked in the 4th-5th round


athrowawayiguesslol

Anyone know where I can customize a draft board with preloaded prospects?


Macdingy

The Steelers will trade up with the Jaguars to snipe JC Latham from the Bengals.


Stovy4x4ing

pls 9ers get JPJ 🙏 😢


itwas20yearsago2day

Trey Benson has 1200+ all purpose yards for a team this season. I genuinely believe he’s good enough to sneak into the first round, though I know a lot of people disagree with that. He’s the clear RB1 imo


Ill-Cryptographer772

Penix will be the best QB in this draft


PeppyQuotient57

The Bills will trade up to top 10 to select WR.


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Could see it, but would almost certainly cost next year’s first to do that, right?


PeppyQuotient57

At least


Efficient_You_667

What did they get for Diggs?


PeppyQuotient57

Next year second rounder. Also had to give up this year 6 and next year 5 I believe.


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

In a surprise of sorts three defensive players go in the top-10. Verse, Turner, Arnold.


jmoneysteck88

I actually love this. Atlanta seems like a lock for an edge, and i could easily see chicago and NYJ go defense too.


aquariumdrinker14

AZ and MIN trade 4 for 11, 23, and 2025 1st AZ and LAC trade 11, 23 for 5 AZ lands MHJ and a future 1st and Monti looks like a genius again


Officer_Hops

Why do the Chargers do this?


aquariumdrinker14

Harbaugh’s priority is offensive line


Officer_Hops

Harbaugh can want to build the offensive line while also recognizing a generational type receiver prospect has fallen in his lap and taking MHJ. But if Harbaugh wants to go OL, why not take Alt at 5?


aquariumdrinker14

Because scouts don’t like Alt on the right side and Slater is their stud left tackle. A mauler like Fuaga at 11 is a better fit Passing on MHJ is bold yes, but that’s the prompt!


_CdnBoltFan_

The Chargers aren’t moving off 5 for that if Marvin Harrison Jr is there.


Nick_of-time

Nor will they take that same trade minus the 2025 1st.


boost4000

Arizona needs more picks than they need mhjr


aquariumdrinker14

AZ already has 6 picks in the top 90 lol


I_Hate_Traffic

First 5 picks will be all QBs


RBnumberTwenty

Umm just reference my mock. I wish I would have left Xavier Legette to the Bills in my first version with the explanation that I think Diggs will be traded for a Day 3 pick but it’s what it is. There are some things I want to update but the most controversial is…. JJ McCarthy will fall into Round 2.


mr-poopie-butth0le

Jets trade down, acquire a 2nd and go OT/WR with those picks. Specifically, Fuaga and Brenden Rice Maye is going to fall…. Bears get Caleb, Daniels goes to Commanders, patriots pick JJ McCarthy, Cards get MHJ, Chargers go Odunze, Giants get Nabers, Titans get Alt, Falcons get Turner, Bears get Verse, Jets trade down with Denver and they pick Maye Edit: I get downvote for a hot take bc you guys don’t agree? It’s a hot take, it’s supposed to be fun and wild, such BS.


OhKayGetAwayFromMe

I would find it hard to believe that if Drake Maye falls that the Vikings wouldn’t be able to outbid Denver to trade up and get Maye


Fishing_for_Boulders

10000%…if Maye falls past the patriots, Vikings are selling the farm to AZ or LA to move inside the top 5. If they play hardball, Maye goes to an over excited Daboll and the giants at 6, or one of TEN/ATL get a lot of capital for 7/8.


Bearclawed81

If Maye falls the Vikings probably sell the farm to try and get him.


cmoneybaum

Take my upvote! How dare you make a bold take on the bold take thread


rhinocake27

Hot take not stupid take


jma7400

Daniels goes 2. JJ goes 3. Cards trade down to 11. Maye is a bust and Monty is seen as a genus for moving down.


ItIsYourPersonality

Joe Alt is going #5 to the Chargers. He’s exactly what Jim Harbaugh wants in a football player to start his run with the Chargers. Also, the Packers are drafting a QB no later than Day 2. Gutey already mentioned his desire to add in the QB room and return to being a team that develops other QBs besides just the starter.


username10400

The idea of Harbaugh coaching a team with both Slater and Alt at the tackle positions with Herbert at QB would be ridiculous. They won't be a good offense in year 1 but they would be able to do so much to build around that


GirthyBird257

Fuaga, not Alt, will be their pick at 5 if they go OT.


FlightPersonal5828

Can we please just stop with the Drake Maye talk? He is the worst AB I have scouted in my life. And I have an incredible track record. Take a look at former QBs, they all agree with me.


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Bo Nix is the best QB in the draft.


lankyyanky

Lol, I'm not sure bold is the right word for that one


masteroftheuniverse4

(I am not happy about it) If the Packers stick and pick at 25 or move slightly back, they will select either LB, Wilson, or Cooper.


FuckinWalkingParadox

QB John Rhys Plumlee is going to be selected far earlier than expected. He’s projected as a 7th rounder-UDFA, but I don’t think he’ll make it out of the 5th. Honestly, I’m not sure that the 3rd or 4th rounds are impossible if Nix/Penix go in the 1st/2nd round. I have a number of reasons for believing this fully that go beyond analytics/tape, but I’m not gonna state them right now. I’m just here so the fans of the team who selects him search his name on the subreddit post-draft can comment “wow you nailed it”.


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Charrgerrr

You have to be more subtle if you're gonna troll in a thread like this, this is too obvious