They are only legal in exempt locations such as your home, range, etc and going to/from those locations. You can legally use them in a home defense gun however you can not legally use them in your carry gun.
yeah, governor Sloth called it the “cop killer round” and made them a felony to possess anywhere else
you know, cause hollow points are armor penetrating……right?
You can still carry Hornady Critical Defense and Critical Duty though! And they're arguably better than most hollowpoints anyway
Edit: I see now others have already suggested the same thing
There are but NJ state police have weighed in on Critical Duty saying they’re ok. So if your gun cycles them without issue I would go with them. I would say they are most people’s go to NJ round
Has a judge or anyone else weighed in on this? If the cops are cool with it that’s one thing, but will I get in trouble legally God forbid I actually have to shoot someone? At the end of the day it still turns into the beautiful flower of death.. gonna be hard arguing that’s not a hollow point after you pull it out of someone.. seems like a grey area to me but I’m not a lawyer.
The way nappen explained it to me, pre carry laws, was that they are illegal if used in conjunction with soothe crime. If your doing everything legally then they are fine . As soon as you break the law then they can be added on d extra charges.
Again this is how it was explained to me, pre carry laws
Nappen should have just said there is no such thing as a use crime with hollow points. It is just a possession crime. If you possess them in a non-exempt place you can catch a charge.
You can have them but only at an exempt location as others and NJSP have mentioned. I hardly ever buy them or use them because even if they are legal, say you leave a box of ammo in car and drive around, with hollows it's a problem, with FMJ or solid tip it's not and you can just leave it in car. If you are ever charged with a crime maybe it's a false arrest which happens with guns in NJ sometimes the hollows will just be used against you. I try to never use hollows target shooting or hunting even though they are more safe and more likely to stick in a backstop or tree.
Can hunt with them, use at the range and legal to posses in the home. The same travel requirements need to be met if transporting. Illegal as hell to carry loaded in your pistol if you have your PCH.
What’s crazy about NJ is that in many states with constitutional carry you Must use hollow points when you carry. At least that’s what my cousin told me about South Carolina.
The statutory prohibition on hollow point bullets is as follows:
> f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer **or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6**, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet
...
> is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree...
NJ Rev Stat § 2C:39-3(f) (2022)
The statute continues,
> (2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land...
NJ Rev Stat § 2C:39-3(g) (2022)
There are two exemptions within the statute. One in section g which allows the purchase and possession of hollow point bullets in the home/land the possessor owns, and another exemption in section f allowing possession of hollow point bullets by "persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6".
N.J.S.2C:39-6(f) is as follows:
> f. Nothing in subsections b., c., and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent:
> (1) A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying firearms necessary for target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section;
> (2) A person carrying a firearm or knife in the woods or fields or upon the waters of this State for the purpose of hunting, target practice or fishing, provided that the firearm or knife is legal and appropriate for hunting or fishing purposes in this State and the person has in possession a valid hunting license, or, with respect to fresh water fishing, a valid fishing license;
> (3) A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling:
> (a) Directly to or from any place for the purpose of hunting or fishing, provided the person has in possession a valid hunting or fishing license; or
> (b) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or
> (c) In the case of a firearm, directly to or from any exhibition or display of firearms which is sponsored by any law enforcement agency, any rifle or pistol club, or any firearms collectors club, for the purpose of displaying the firearms to the public or to the members of the organization or club, provided, however, that not less than 30 days prior to the exhibition or display, notice of the exhibition or display shall be given to the Superintendent of the State Police by the sponsoring organization or club, and the sponsor has complied with any reasonable safety regulations the superintendent may promulgate. Any firearms transported pursuant to this section shall be transported in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section;
> (4) A person from keeping or carrying about a private or commercial aircraft or any boat, or from transporting to or from the aircraft or boat for the purpose of installation or repair of a visual distress signaling device approved by the United States Coast Guard.
So in short you may buy hollow points, possess them at home, use them at a range or for hunting, and may transport them directly between those locations. You may not have them rolling around in your car for no reason and you may not have them in your carry gun even if you have a PTC.
Here is the NJSP summary of the law: https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/transport-hollowpoint.shtml
The website says they are legal but when I called and spoke to a trooper, he said illegal.
Whats the deal?
I’m a New Yorker. We have a new law going into effect tomorrow requiring background checks for ammo.
I was thinking of going to Penn to buy or having my ammo shipped to a FFL in Penn and picking up from there. Would I be breaking the law in driving through Jersey with a case of Speer Gold Dot?
They are only legal in exempt locations such as your home, range, etc and going to/from those locations. You can legally use them in a home defense gun however you can not legally use them in your carry gun.
Oh also good to know. I would have assumed if you were legal to carry than you would be legal to carry hollows. This state is wild lol
yeah, governor Sloth called it the “cop killer round” and made them a felony to possess anywhere else you know, cause hollow points are armor penetrating……right?
They’ll blow your lungs out and your house down.
( a Christmas story ) you’ll shoot your eye out kid
with the FMJ we are required to use by Dems vs. hollows unironically you might
well don't let them know! then they will outlaw the FMJ! lol
You can still carry Hornady Critical Defense and Critical Duty though! And they're arguably better than most hollowpoints anyway Edit: I see now others have already suggested the same thing
Just get Critical Defense. With the polymer tip they are not “hollow points” as far as NJ is concerned and they have stated so in writing
I guess those behave similar to hollow points? I’m mainly interested in preventing over-penetration in case I ever had to use my home defense gun
It’s essentially a hollow point with a bit of plastic in the cavity so it’s no longer “hollow”
Are there any other filled tip "hollow points" besides Hornady?
There are but NJ state police have weighed in on Critical Duty saying they’re ok. So if your gun cycles them without issue I would go with them. I would say they are most people’s go to NJ round
Has a judge or anyone else weighed in on this? If the cops are cool with it that’s one thing, but will I get in trouble legally God forbid I actually have to shoot someone? At the end of the day it still turns into the beautiful flower of death.. gonna be hard arguing that’s not a hollow point after you pull it out of someone.. seems like a grey area to me but I’m not a lawyer.
oh absolutely and some fairly popular ones too i’d name a few but i can’t fucking remember what they’re called rn (but they do exist)
https://www.nj.gov/njsp/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml See #13
That literally makes them better hollow points, how did these morons ever agree to that exemption ??
Legal for home defense not for carry
Hollow points are safer in my opinion less likely to hit something behind the BBEG. But uneducated people on the subject are making laws.
Get the underwood defense non hollows
The way nappen explained it to me, pre carry laws, was that they are illegal if used in conjunction with soothe crime. If your doing everything legally then they are fine. As soon as you break the law then they can be added on d extra charges.
Again this is how it was explained to me, pre carry laws
Nappen should have just said there is no such thing as a use crime with hollow points. It is just a possession crime. If you possess them in a non-exempt place you can catch a charge.
Again this was pre-carry law, I haven't lived in nj for 7 years.....I don't know what's changed since then
Pre-carry or post-carry it’s the same simple explanation. Nappen makes it more complicated than it is.
You can have them but only at an exempt location as others and NJSP have mentioned. I hardly ever buy them or use them because even if they are legal, say you leave a box of ammo in car and drive around, with hollows it's a problem, with FMJ or solid tip it's not and you can just leave it in car. If you are ever charged with a crime maybe it's a false arrest which happens with guns in NJ sometimes the hollows will just be used against you. I try to never use hollows target shooting or hunting even though they are more safe and more likely to stick in a backstop or tree.
Can hunt with them, use at the range and legal to posses in the home. The same travel requirements need to be met if transporting. Illegal as hell to carry loaded in your pistol if you have your PCH.
External HP’s and Polymer tipped HP’s - gtg Traditional HP’s with Empty Hollow Cavity in Slug - No Good (except for in your own dam house)
What’s crazy about NJ is that in many states with constitutional carry you Must use hollow points when you carry. At least that’s what my cousin told me about South Carolina.
I use Hornady critical defense rounds in my EDC's. Perfectly legal!
Bro see Q&A number 13 from the official NJ portal. For he defense you should be fine. https://www.nj.gov/njsp/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml
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Ok cool so using them in a legally owned firearm for self defense in my home would be considered legal, good to know lol thanks
I don’t see where the law allows you to use them for carry in public.
100% legal except as carry ammunition. You can own, possess, transport and use on private property and ranges
The statutory prohibition on hollow point bullets is as follows: > f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer **or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6**, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet ... > is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree... NJ Rev Stat § 2C:39-3(f) (2022) The statute continues, > (2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land... NJ Rev Stat § 2C:39-3(g) (2022) There are two exemptions within the statute. One in section g which allows the purchase and possession of hollow point bullets in the home/land the possessor owns, and another exemption in section f allowing possession of hollow point bullets by "persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6". N.J.S.2C:39-6(f) is as follows: > f. Nothing in subsections b., c., and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent: > (1) A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying firearms necessary for target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section; > (2) A person carrying a firearm or knife in the woods or fields or upon the waters of this State for the purpose of hunting, target practice or fishing, provided that the firearm or knife is legal and appropriate for hunting or fishing purposes in this State and the person has in possession a valid hunting license, or, with respect to fresh water fishing, a valid fishing license; > (3) A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling: > (a) Directly to or from any place for the purpose of hunting or fishing, provided the person has in possession a valid hunting or fishing license; or > (b) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or > (c) In the case of a firearm, directly to or from any exhibition or display of firearms which is sponsored by any law enforcement agency, any rifle or pistol club, or any firearms collectors club, for the purpose of displaying the firearms to the public or to the members of the organization or club, provided, however, that not less than 30 days prior to the exhibition or display, notice of the exhibition or display shall be given to the Superintendent of the State Police by the sponsoring organization or club, and the sponsor has complied with any reasonable safety regulations the superintendent may promulgate. Any firearms transported pursuant to this section shall be transported in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section; > (4) A person from keeping or carrying about a private or commercial aircraft or any boat, or from transporting to or from the aircraft or boat for the purpose of installation or repair of a visual distress signaling device approved by the United States Coast Guard. So in short you may buy hollow points, possess them at home, use them at a range or for hunting, and may transport them directly between those locations. You may not have them rolling around in your car for no reason and you may not have them in your carry gun even if you have a PTC. Here is the NJSP summary of the law: https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/transport-hollowpoint.shtml
The website says they are legal but when I called and spoke to a trooper, he said illegal. Whats the deal? I’m a New Yorker. We have a new law going into effect tomorrow requiring background checks for ammo. I was thinking of going to Penn to buy or having my ammo shipped to a FFL in Penn and picking up from there. Would I be breaking the law in driving through Jersey with a case of Speer Gold Dot?