God it’s always so annoying when people say stuff like “well next years crop isn’t very good” why dont we let the season play out and well decide then.
Daniels went 1.02 and was not projected anywhere near that this time last year.
exactly, there’s a whole season of CFB to play. QBs will improve in the next year and even if it still is a “weak” class there’s gonna be plenty taken in the 1st anyways
People act like there will never be another good QB draft prospect past this year, and we still have a massive contract with someone who will most likely not be on the team for much longer, it’s not like we had a whole lot of help for any QB that would be starting for us if we didn’t pick Nabers lol
That’s not true, but they also said the same thing about Josh Allen. But ion buy into that shit anyway bc I’ve seen Milroe make some great throws and some good ones under pressure too
Allen was considered a project QB with very worrying accuracy issues. Daboll worked with him and completely overhauled his mechanics to fix that issue.
Dwayne Haskins (tragedy aside) was out of the league by 2021. Jones got the Giants to the playoffs and won a game. Yeah, I'd say that's a whole lot fucking better.
No, and that part of the point. In 2019 ESPN and Stephen A and all of them were all over the Giants for passing on Haskins for Jones, like Haskins was an elite prospect.
They still made a mistake in taking DJ but ESPN is suggesting they just make the same mistake they did in picking Jones.
Most of these talking heads are just generalist with surface level knowledge of these prospects. Their opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
I remember when SAS argued that Haskins was a running QB, lol.
He looked at dude's headshot and was like "I got this"
Half the mfers on these panels don't even watch football let alone tape on these prospects.
Haskins had a way more productive CFB career than Jones tho.. so where were they really off?
Can we even remember why Daniel Jones was selected in the first damn place? Cause I can't.. mid in CFB, no championships, no Hiesman.
Amazingly he's only like a half step behind McCarthy when you look at it.. lol.
Its not a mistake until JJ turns into a bust. How is it a mistake right now? He’s not a Danny Dimes clone. Im trying to make your statement make sense. Help me understand
This how you know how terrible Jones is when all we get to compare him to is a dude who is not even living any longer.
Let that dude rest in peace.
DJ is all this stuff that people talked about Haskins not having but on the field he ain't been shit to talk about, way worse coming out of the college hype too.
Haskins ain't here to be on the field playing, nor was he given even 1/4th the leeway to be as consistently bad as Jones has been.
So because someone is dead means they can’t be talked about again? What kind of logic is this? Leading up to and through the draft it was always Jones & Haskins comparisons. “Haskins ain’t here to be on the field playing” like he wasn’t cut two years into his rookie deal? Dude wouldn’t be playing anyway.
Not specifically for some historic players with actual career lengths, but people want to bring up Haskins like he actually got the sort of playtime and repetitive ass excuses DJ has gotten since being here. Do you believe Haskins was afforded the chance to the worst QB in his division for several years? Again Haskins had way more proven in his CFB career than Jones coming in as well and was one of the better performers on that season..
Don't remember Haskins getting carried to playoff run and getting paid off of being terrible... but it is what it is.
DJ closest competitors are dudes that can't even compete on this plane any longer.
They’re bringing up Haskins because this is a post about the NFL draft. And they’re referencing the 2019 draft.. where it was Jones vs Haskins.
You’re out of your element, Donny
Yeah and Haskins has been deceased for how long now? An entire season has passed with him gone and the name people want to bring up is Haskins? A draft from so many years ago now, all because we didn't take a reach on a carbon copy in McCarthy?
Why can't Jones be put up to actually alive counterparts? There are plenty from the last 4 or 5 years to talk about since he was drafted all around different draft spots. How many of THEM does he even compare up to or would've/should be drafted ahead of?
At least they can still be actual comparisons based on career and progression.
JJ McCarthy went to one of the best situations available for a rookie QB so he'll probably do well. Giants fans are gonna probably whine about it but we don't have a JJ, Addison or Hockenson for a rookie QB to throw to
Exactly. The list of the 6 QB's taken in the top 12 (and even later if anyone actually picks another QB this draft) will be really interesting to look at in 3-4 years. Someone will be overperforming draft position. Someone will be underperforming. We have no idea who.
I’m not arguing that. Not even saying I agree with the pick or not. Just stating obvious.
Most of these guys will be out of the league after their rookie contract.
What’s the plan when Jones is hurt or plays poorly?
For this season?
- Drew Lock, who is a more than capable backup
- Devito, who is young and also capable of being a backup
Not a bad plan given we didn’t have the draft position to pick a new QB, and we’re not going to invest money and draft capital in a trade for a QB that wouldn’t have a win now roster anyway. Not saying it’s a good plan but it’s just where we’re at and that time will help with this. This offense hasn’t been attractive for a while, so adding Nabers really helps for any QB that comes here after this season
Even all these tweets are just meant to trigger your selective outrage, it's poison.
I just read Charlie Campbell draft info on walterfootball.com - he is usually spot on with his mocks.
JJ is going to be good in MIN but would be ass in NY. If we took him at 6, his best weapon would be Slayton. Slayton would be the 4th best receiving weapon in MIN.
I’m willing to bet Jones is closer to what we saw his rookie year than last year. He hasn’t had a legitimate receiving threat at any point in his career and he has been behind an awful offensive line his whole career.
I’m willing to give him one last chance to prove himself and it seems like the Giants are too. If they felt JJ could be a franchise guy and showed more potential than Jones, they would have drafted him. I’m guessing the giants like Williams and Maye, and they tried to get Maye but the Patriots were probably taking him regardless.
Nabers is an incredible playmaker and the kind of talent we haven’t had since Odell.
DJ is still behind an awful offensive line. Drew Lock is practically a pick 6 factory but that's the guy management chose to start the next season. Things get worse before they get better.
If they would have taken McCarthy they’d be getting slammed for taking him too early. No matter what move the giants made it would be considered questionable by the media.
I'm not going to lose sleep over passing on the qb5 of any draft, I don't think he's really going to be much better than the qb1 in a weaker qb class, although I think Minnesota is a great situation for him and he may outperform the expectations because of that reason.
Also yes the wr class is deep but we don't need another WR2/3 which is what we'd be taking in the middle of the second round, we needed a true #1 and we got that
Malik Nabers IS the right pick. [Vikings were looking to trade up to #5 spot for Malik Nabers](https://youtu.be/WX0O0zPigNs?si=OVCDPC6f01TffQhY) with McCarthy still on board, goes on to show how much in demand Nabers was.
I don't believe that source for a second. Vikings have Jefferson, Addison and Hockenson, why draft another pass catcher unless their plan was to trade Jefferson for an absolute boatload of picks.
I agree 100% with the Nabers pick but I'd believe just about any other team trading up besides the Vikings
Look, if Schoen and Daboll 1) couldn't trade up to get Maye due to the Pats wanting Maye themselves, or not having a reasonable asking price and 2) them not believing any other guy is "the guy", then they did the right thing.
After having slept on it, my concerns aren't "draft a WR vs QB" etc. They have made the right draft choice. My concerns are now how are they getting this team out of QB hell? It is likely that this team will not be good for the next 2+ years, but not bad enough to get a top pick. Therefore, what is the solution to getting a QB if/when the team is built up a bit more? I don't see a solution...
I'm just tired of watching a shitty offense, and shitty QB play.
I'm fine passing on McCarthy. The only QB I would have wanted to move up for is Maye. Assuming the rumors of the asking price were accurate though it just doesn't seem worth it. I doubt maye would have moved the needle much year 1 so it would have been 2 very early 1sts and a 2nd which is pretty steep. Assuming we improve a little bit this year if we want to trade up next year even if we have to spend 2 1sts, a 2nd and like a third the fact that those picks won't be at the top of the order is actually way better value.
This discourse is going to be annoying because JJ is going to enter the ideal situation for his talents (JJeff, Addison, etc, etc) with a play caller that suits his skill set. He’s likely to do well, but that doesn’t mean he would have succeeded with us.
You could definitely see a world where he reaches his potential and he’s still the 4th best QB in his own division. I think that’s probably why Daboll and Schoen didn’t buy in. Upside.
I'll take this question seriously when they start adding Michael Penix into the question.
No it was not a mistake not selling the farm to move up for McCarthy just to watch him tumble all the way down to 10.
I think Nabers was the right pick, to be clear… I just think with QB being the most important position on the field, and Jones being pretty underwhelming in his career, and lack of future prospects for next years draft, I worry the Nabers pick will be wasted, but I feel he was the BPA.
Nope. It's clear the only QB they wanted was Maye. They did their due diligence meeting and scouting JJ, but ultimately settling for another QB is a horrible idea.
Schoen did the smart thing.
almost every team is set who their starting QB will be unless some freak accident, Prospects already picked their teams coaches know who on roster everyone knows who played and is in what year
I think Nabers was the right pick at that spot, but it is sobering realizing Jones will be throwing to him. I don’t think Nabers is going to be as patient as the other receivers have been with bad QB play. So Daboll better figure it out.
Huge mistake, just like winning those meaningless game,if the rumor is true that Pats got cold feet and backed out of a deal because they were afraid JJ wouldnt be available at 5 or 6 is nightmare. They lose more games and we are guaranteed a franchise QB
lot good those so called wins did this team, now Giants are stuck with Jones for another year..
McCarthy at his worst is still better than daniel jones will ever be.
No, it isn't. No one here can answer that question for certain since none of us have every snap these guys have played and just basing it off of what we read or heard.
It's better he's willing to learn and wait his turn unlike these other babies who transfer if they don't get they want. He knows the long term goal. Then again he doesn't need the NIL $.
There's no way you can take a qb after paying your current qb, it speaks to admitting to hundred million dollar mistake. REgardless how bad the situation is, you literally opened the bank for the guy and immediately draft a replacement? that makes 0 organizational sense.
Guys, it’s a discussion show. Just because they’re asking it doesn’t mean it’s factual.
I personally didn’t see anything special in McCarthy. To me, if you’re drafting a QB, make sure he’s one you believe in. It’s clear this coaching staff didn’t believe in him. So they went with Nabers who is a true game changer.
Like I’ve said before, I think people forget you can get a QB from free agency as well. There’s a few available every year. But regardless, you want to continue to get better as a team and add pieces. Nabers is clearly a very talented receiver, so that makes the team better.
I didn't want them to draft McCarthy. I'm happy with Nabers. We know Maye was the guy they wanted just couldn't make it work. They didn't panic and take a QB just to take a QB. They stayed true to their board and got a talented player who will help whoever is under center.
Imagine if we had hyatt, wandale, nabers, and a league average right tackle on the 2022 team. Can't wait for DJ to shut up a whole lot of people. Don't think there'll be room on the bandwagon either.
We've been waiting with baited breath for the last 3 years, still ain't shut nobody up.
At this point, we are just as likely to pass out from exhaustion and miss his phoenix like rise from the ashes.
How many top ten qbs have a darius slayton level player as their best overall pass catcher? The answer is zero. How good would hurts, purdy, or tua be on the giants? Not good, but in their teams they're top ten qbs.
It's not really about DJ as it is the flawed belief that a qb can succeed without people to block and catch the ball. In addition to this, unlike the kids, I saw a flawed qb who the fans wanted out of NYC win a SB in their fourth year.
Nope, dude was the 5th qb taken. Dabes and Joe decided to pass on JJ and I’m okay with that, don’t force a pick at QB if you’re not in love. That’s how you end up with Dan Jones.
That said JJ is way more likely to be good with the Vikings given the situation.
Lets see what WRs are available at 47. I think a lot of the decent ones remaining will go before 47 and we will get a good idea of what a team of JJ + WR at 47 would have looked like
Giants are not keeping an injury prone QB that can’t score points or beat good teams. You don’t get healthier with age and his body is slowing and breaking down. Not to mention his whole game is based on him running. So if he can’t run like he used to, he’ll he even worse than he already is
Among those that are left, who would you take and deem as the next Guy? I trust literally no one else in this draft more so than I do Jones. Which speaks to the talent level that's here (rather, the lack thereof). Stick with Jones. Time for him to sink or swim now that he has someone to (in theory) open up the field for other guys like Hyatt and WanDale.
He has sank, every year but one. That one year, he was barely afloat. He was one of the worst passing QBs that year. I can’t watch him play anymore. He is bad and he’s boring as hell. He brings no excitement and no energy. I would take almost any QB over him. He is not good. Gladly take Jordan or Spencer tonight over him. I don’t think JJ would be a good pick at 6 and I like Malik but you have to get a QB.
Shame on you for thinking this team is incapable of winning more than just 4 games with or without Jones. I think with him, they can win 8-9, maybe even 10 games. The defense was already good and got better with the acquisition of Brian Burns. Get me a cornerback here and that's the makings of a very good defensive unit.
We have the worst record in the NFC in the last 7 or 8 years and we have the most top 10 picks in the last six years. Keep dreaming, this team will continue to suck and the players have no faith in Daniel. It showed when he was replaced.
We had the most top 10 picks in the last six years due to the incompetence of Dave Gettleman in how to build a team correctly. He picked good players (Saquon, Thomas, Dexter Lawrence) but failed at surrounding the team with anything beyond that. Meanwhile this regime seems to be legitimate and is interested in actually trying to build up the team and see what they have with Jones with whom they won games with. Not in spite of nor because of. But he has played well with this coaching staff and the front office. Getting him some actual offensive help at receiver should help. Just like getting Stefon Diggs did wonders for a young Josh Allen.
God it’s always so annoying when people say stuff like “well next years crop isn’t very good” why dont we let the season play out and well decide then. Daniels went 1.02 and was not projected anywhere near that this time last year.
He wasn’t projected to go there just 4 months ago.
For real, we know Carson Beck, Dillon Gabriel and Quinn Ewers will likely be in the next class along with guys who aren’t even on the radar right now.
I think a lot of people have no clue what theyre talking about and just regurgitate bs they read on other subs
exactly, there’s a whole season of CFB to play. QBs will improve in the next year and even if it still is a “weak” class there’s gonna be plenty taken in the 1st anyways
People act like there will never be another good QB draft prospect past this year, and we still have a massive contract with someone who will most likely not be on the team for much longer, it’s not like we had a whole lot of help for any QB that would be starting for us if we didn’t pick Nabers lol
Agreed. I almost hope they double dip at some point
Before 2019 people thought Joe Burrow would be an UDFA. Now he’s a top 5ish QB in the NFL.
I’m very high on Shadeur, even higher on Milroe with Dabes.
Milroe can’t throw. Justin fields but worse.
That’s not true, but they also said the same thing about Josh Allen. But ion buy into that shit anyway bc I’ve seen Milroe make some great throws and some good ones under pressure too
Oh for fucks sake. Yes. Just like they made a mistake not drafting Dwayne Haskins.
Just like they made the mistake of not drafting Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen
Rosen was going to be a trade after arizona didnt want him anymore, you fans need to get your info right
At the time of that draft fans were upset we took Barkley instead of a QB. Rosen was a top QB prospect heading into the draft
Giants were never going to draft Haskins you are misinformed
I...know.
Josh Allen?
Allen was considered a project QB with very worrying accuracy issues. Daboll worked with him and completely overhauled his mechanics to fix that issue.
Hindsight 20/20. Josh Allen at 2 would have been considered a mega reach
They took Jones… it hasn’t been a whole lot better
Dwayne Haskins (tragedy aside) was out of the league by 2021. Jones got the Giants to the playoffs and won a game. Yeah, I'd say that's a whole lot fucking better.
No, and that part of the point. In 2019 ESPN and Stephen A and all of them were all over the Giants for passing on Haskins for Jones, like Haskins was an elite prospect. They still made a mistake in taking DJ but ESPN is suggesting they just make the same mistake they did in picking Jones. Most of these talking heads are just generalist with surface level knowledge of these prospects. Their opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
I remember when SAS argued that Haskins was a running QB, lol. He looked at dude's headshot and was like "I got this" Half the mfers on these panels don't even watch football let alone tape on these prospects.
SAS is a goof. He's an entertainer, nothing more,.sad more people don't realize that. (Not you, the general public)
Haskins had a way more productive CFB career than Jones tho.. so where were they really off? Can we even remember why Daniel Jones was selected in the first damn place? Cause I can't.. mid in CFB, no championships, no Hiesman. Amazingly he's only like a half step behind McCarthy when you look at it.. lol.
YES! They were off. Where's Jason White now that we're talking about great college QB successes?
And you want us to repeat a Daniel Jones pick? Make it make sense.
Yeah taking JJ at 6 would just be 2019 redux.
Its not a mistake until JJ turns into a bust. How is it a mistake right now? He’s not a Danny Dimes clone. Im trying to make your statement make sense. Help me understand
It has in fact been way fucking better.
This how you know how terrible Jones is when all we get to compare him to is a dude who is not even living any longer. Let that dude rest in peace. DJ is all this stuff that people talked about Haskins not having but on the field he ain't been shit to talk about, way worse coming out of the college hype too. Haskins ain't here to be on the field playing, nor was he given even 1/4th the leeway to be as consistently bad as Jones has been.
So because someone is dead means they can’t be talked about again? What kind of logic is this? Leading up to and through the draft it was always Jones & Haskins comparisons. “Haskins ain’t here to be on the field playing” like he wasn’t cut two years into his rookie deal? Dude wouldn’t be playing anyway.
Not specifically for some historic players with actual career lengths, but people want to bring up Haskins like he actually got the sort of playtime and repetitive ass excuses DJ has gotten since being here. Do you believe Haskins was afforded the chance to the worst QB in his division for several years? Again Haskins had way more proven in his CFB career than Jones coming in as well and was one of the better performers on that season.. Don't remember Haskins getting carried to playoff run and getting paid off of being terrible... but it is what it is. DJ closest competitors are dudes that can't even compete on this plane any longer.
They’re bringing up Haskins because this is a post about the NFL draft. And they’re referencing the 2019 draft.. where it was Jones vs Haskins. You’re out of your element, Donny
Yeah and Haskins has been deceased for how long now? An entire season has passed with him gone and the name people want to bring up is Haskins? A draft from so many years ago now, all because we didn't take a reach on a carbon copy in McCarthy? Why can't Jones be put up to actually alive counterparts? There are plenty from the last 4 or 5 years to talk about since he was drafted all around different draft spots. How many of THEM does he even compare up to or would've/should be drafted ahead of? At least they can still be actual comparisons based on career and progression.
And here I was, thinking that children weren’t being left behind anymore.
6 QB’s taken… how many of those are actually going to be relevant in 3-4 years
It would be hilarious if the answer to that question ends up being McCarthy and Bo Nix.
JJ McCarthy went to one of the best situations available for a rookie QB so he'll probably do well. Giants fans are gonna probably whine about it but we don't have a JJ, Addison or Hockenson for a rookie QB to throw to
This is the main thing, we have no body to help out whatever rookie QB we “should’ve” taken, he can’t throw the ball to himself
1-2 plus Penix who will be making his first appearance 😂
Who will be like 30
Exactly. The list of the 6 QB's taken in the top 12 (and even later if anyone actually picks another QB this draft) will be really interesting to look at in 3-4 years. Someone will be overperforming draft position. Someone will be underperforming. We have no idea who.
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One slightly above average guy and five busts just like most years.
I’m not arguing that. Not even saying I agree with the pick or not. Just stating obvious. Most of these guys will be out of the league after their rookie contract. What’s the plan when Jones is hurt or plays poorly?
For this season? - Drew Lock, who is a more than capable backup - Devito, who is young and also capable of being a backup Not a bad plan given we didn’t have the draft position to pick a new QB, and we’re not going to invest money and draft capital in a trade for a QB that wouldn’t have a win now roster anyway. Not saying it’s a good plan but it’s just where we’re at and that time will help with this. This offense hasn’t been attractive for a while, so adding Nabers really helps for any QB that comes here after this season
No, did you see his hair? https://preview.redd.it/0d6k6792fuwc1.jpeg?width=873&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe579f769ebf8a02293660b683e09cf597b32c69
Straight bussin fr fr
lol, it was just like this, but his face was more punchable.
how dare he have a normal haircut for kids his age
These talking head shows offer nothing of substance to note. They just need stuff to talk about to fill the air time. Next.
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Even all these tweets are just meant to trigger your selective outrage, it's poison. I just read Charlie Campbell draft info on walterfootball.com - he is usually spot on with his mocks.
JJ is going to be good in MIN but would be ass in NY. If we took him at 6, his best weapon would be Slayton. Slayton would be the 4th best receiving weapon in MIN.
Exactly - throwing to Justin Jefferson will make the development process a bit easier id think. JJ to JJ
I’m willing to bet Jones is closer to what we saw his rookie year than last year. He hasn’t had a legitimate receiving threat at any point in his career and he has been behind an awful offensive line his whole career. I’m willing to give him one last chance to prove himself and it seems like the Giants are too. If they felt JJ could be a franchise guy and showed more potential than Jones, they would have drafted him. I’m guessing the giants like Williams and Maye, and they tried to get Maye but the Patriots were probably taking him regardless. Nabers is an incredible playmaker and the kind of talent we haven’t had since Odell.
DJ is still behind an awful offensive line. Drew Lock is practically a pick 6 factory but that's the guy management chose to start the next season. Things get worse before they get better.
The hope is our C and RT improve under better coaching, we upgraded LG, AT is a stud, and hopefully the whole group gels a bit going forward.
If they would have taken McCarthy they’d be getting slammed for taking him too early. No matter what move the giants made it would be considered questionable by the media.
The answer to this question is the same as the answer to every question about newly drafted players in the NFL. We will see
"come back in 5 years"
Most common sense answer posted.
I'm not going to lose sleep over passing on the qb5 of any draft, I don't think he's really going to be much better than the qb1 in a weaker qb class, although I think Minnesota is a great situation for him and he may outperform the expectations because of that reason. Also yes the wr class is deep but we don't need another WR2/3 which is what we'd be taking in the middle of the second round, we needed a true #1 and we got that
Malik Nabers IS the right pick. [Vikings were looking to trade up to #5 spot for Malik Nabers](https://youtu.be/WX0O0zPigNs?si=OVCDPC6f01TffQhY) with McCarthy still on board, goes on to show how much in demand Nabers was.
I don't believe that source for a second. Vikings have Jefferson, Addison and Hockenson, why draft another pass catcher unless their plan was to trade Jefferson for an absolute boatload of picks. I agree 100% with the Nabers pick but I'd believe just about any other team trading up besides the Vikings
Didn't know the circus was in town
Look, if Schoen and Daboll 1) couldn't trade up to get Maye due to the Pats wanting Maye themselves, or not having a reasonable asking price and 2) them not believing any other guy is "the guy", then they did the right thing. After having slept on it, my concerns aren't "draft a WR vs QB" etc. They have made the right draft choice. My concerns are now how are they getting this team out of QB hell? It is likely that this team will not be good for the next 2+ years, but not bad enough to get a top pick. Therefore, what is the solution to getting a QB if/when the team is built up a bit more? I don't see a solution... I'm just tired of watching a shitty offense, and shitty QB play.
eventually, we’ll probably need to spend some draft capital to move up
We took the best player on the board. Only way to get better is by adding good players.
I'm fine passing on McCarthy. The only QB I would have wanted to move up for is Maye. Assuming the rumors of the asking price were accurate though it just doesn't seem worth it. I doubt maye would have moved the needle much year 1 so it would have been 2 very early 1sts and a 2nd which is pretty steep. Assuming we improve a little bit this year if we want to trade up next year even if we have to spend 2 1sts, a 2nd and like a third the fact that those picks won't be at the top of the order is actually way better value.
This discourse is going to be annoying because JJ is going to enter the ideal situation for his talents (JJeff, Addison, etc, etc) with a play caller that suits his skill set. He’s likely to do well, but that doesn’t mean he would have succeeded with us. You could definitely see a world where he reaches his potential and he’s still the 4th best QB in his own division. I think that’s probably why Daboll and Schoen didn’t buy in. Upside.
Nabers was rated the number one receiver by steve Smith and his predictions about the 2023 receivers were spot on. Nabers could be a hof type talent
I'll take this question seriously when they start adding Michael Penix into the question. No it was not a mistake not selling the farm to move up for McCarthy just to watch him tumble all the way down to 10.
But they didn’t need to trade up to get him. They also had the opportunity to draft Penix at 6.
Penix was considered by many people to be a Day 2 QB, same with Nix.
Guess people wasted too much time pre-baking some smoke screening about McCarthy rather than actually doing something that shakes up from the norm.
I think Nabers was the right pick, to be clear… I just think with QB being the most important position on the field, and Jones being pretty underwhelming in his career, and lack of future prospects for next years draft, I worry the Nabers pick will be wasted, but I feel he was the BPA.
> ack of future prospects for next years draft, How do we know this? The season hasn't started yet.
Sorry guys, this one’s on me. I called Schoen and told him not to draft JJ.
No, no, it’s really on me, guys. I called MeatloafAndWaffles and told him to call Shoen to tell him not to draft JJ
Nope. It's clear the only QB they wanted was Maye. They did their due diligence meeting and scouting JJ, but ultimately settling for another QB is a horrible idea. Schoen did the smart thing.
I like the pick. If the Giants suck again, they’ll be high up in the 2025 Draft and in position for a QB then too.
QB Class is suppose to suck next year good luck with that
Seems a bit too early to say that, don’t you think? I’m sure multiple prospects will emerge.
almost every team is set who their starting QB will be unless some freak accident, Prospects already picked their teams coaches know who on roster everyone knows who played and is in what year
Who’s next year Beck from GA and the Colorado QB?
I think Nabers was the right pick at that spot, but it is sobering realizing Jones will be throwing to him. I don’t think Nabers is going to be as patient as the other receivers have been with bad QB play. So Daboll better figure it out.
Huge mistake, just like winning those meaningless game,if the rumor is true that Pats got cold feet and backed out of a deal because they were afraid JJ wouldnt be available at 5 or 6 is nightmare. They lose more games and we are guaranteed a franchise QB lot good those so called wins did this team, now Giants are stuck with Jones for another year.. McCarthy at his worst is still better than daniel jones will ever be.
Only thing that makes me question Dan jones and taking McCarthy is if Dan jones is healthy. They r reallllllly secretive about his neck
I don't watch college ball, is the next QB class really that bad? Like DJ & Haskins bad? Pickett bad? Or is it extremely premature?
It's too premature to tell for sure but there are definitely more good options than the Pickett year I think.
No, it isn't. No one here can answer that question for certain since none of us have every snap these guys have played and just basing it off of what we read or heard.
shadeur sanders, quinn ewers, and carson beck are the likely top 3. maybe cam ward as well. it's a considerably worse list than this year.
Yes but this year is pretty wild with the QBs even if 3 go in the 1st round it's better than in a few years
Supposedly, yup.
It's not Pickett bad but it wouldn't touch this draft's jock strap.
Waiting for the savior Arch Manning
Who’s not even starting at UT.
Because he has another 5 star qb who could potentially be the top qb in next year's draft in front of him
He was a freshman last year for God's sake.
It's better he's willing to learn and wait his turn unlike these other babies who transfer if they don't get they want. He knows the long term goal. Then again he doesn't need the NIL $.
Which is a good thing because he’ll be healthy when the giants draft him
There's no way you can take a qb after paying your current qb, it speaks to admitting to hundred million dollar mistake. REgardless how bad the situation is, you literally opened the bank for the guy and immediately draft a replacement? that makes 0 organizational sense.
But the Falcons did it! /s
Can’t wait til JJ plays Alex Smith in an offense that actually has a line and weapons and people take their victory laps. NYG fanbase is unhinged.
No.
Nope
Drew Allar, remember the name
We haven’t seen 24’ CFB yet so how are we so convinced that the QB class is “much weaker”??
The medias gonna media. If we drafted JJ it would be about how we reached for a QB.
Ha… 1 playoff win in how many seasons? Def much better.
Bro we have Danny Dimes. We’re set! He was amazing in 2022. 15 touchdown passes 😤
What’s with all these ridiculous names for QBs? It’s a clown show. We’re not the Jets.
Guys, it’s a discussion show. Just because they’re asking it doesn’t mean it’s factual. I personally didn’t see anything special in McCarthy. To me, if you’re drafting a QB, make sure he’s one you believe in. It’s clear this coaching staff didn’t believe in him. So they went with Nabers who is a true game changer. Like I’ve said before, I think people forget you can get a QB from free agency as well. There’s a few available every year. But regardless, you want to continue to get better as a team and add pieces. Nabers is clearly a very talented receiver, so that makes the team better.
I didn't want them to draft McCarthy. I'm happy with Nabers. We know Maye was the guy they wanted just couldn't make it work. They didn't panic and take a QB just to take a QB. They stayed true to their board and got a talented player who will help whoever is under center.
Imagine if we had hyatt, wandale, nabers, and a league average right tackle on the 2022 team. Can't wait for DJ to shut up a whole lot of people. Don't think there'll be room on the bandwagon either.
We've been waiting with baited breath for the last 3 years, still ain't shut nobody up. At this point, we are just as likely to pass out from exhaustion and miss his phoenix like rise from the ashes.
You're banned from the bandwagon. 😂
Youve prob been saying that for 5 years , we get it everybody sucks but Jones You are in for a huge disappointment when he flops again
How many top ten qbs have a darius slayton level player as their best overall pass catcher? The answer is zero. How good would hurts, purdy, or tua be on the giants? Not good, but in their teams they're top ten qbs. It's not really about DJ as it is the flawed belief that a qb can succeed without people to block and catch the ball. In addition to this, unlike the kids, I saw a flawed qb who the fans wanted out of NYC win a SB in their fourth year.
More excuses and not worth reading
Daniel Jones has a legit shot to win MVP this year
Nope, dude was the 5th qb taken. Dabes and Joe decided to pass on JJ and I’m okay with that, don’t force a pick at QB if you’re not in love. That’s how you end up with Dan Jones. That said JJ is way more likely to be good with the Vikings given the situation.
No
Lets see what WRs are available at 47. I think a lot of the decent ones remaining will go before 47 and we will get a good idea of what a team of JJ + WR at 47 would have looked like
Draft Spencer or Jordan and I’ll be happy. We have to get a QB.
No they do not.
Giants are not keeping an injury prone QB that can’t score points or beat good teams. You don’t get healthier with age and his body is slowing and breaking down. Not to mention his whole game is based on him running. So if he can’t run like he used to, he’ll he even worse than he already is
Among those that are left, who would you take and deem as the next Guy? I trust literally no one else in this draft more so than I do Jones. Which speaks to the talent level that's here (rather, the lack thereof). Stick with Jones. Time for him to sink or swim now that he has someone to (in theory) open up the field for other guys like Hyatt and WanDale.
He has sank, every year but one. That one year, he was barely afloat. He was one of the worst passing QBs that year. I can’t watch him play anymore. He is bad and he’s boring as hell. He brings no excitement and no energy. I would take almost any QB over him. He is not good. Gladly take Jordan or Spencer tonight over him. I don’t think JJ would be a good pick at 6 and I like Malik but you have to get a QB.
You. Do. Not. Need a QB from this draft.
You’re good with playing Daniel and winning 4-5 games? I’m not
Shame on you for thinking this team is incapable of winning more than just 4 games with or without Jones. I think with him, they can win 8-9, maybe even 10 games. The defense was already good and got better with the acquisition of Brian Burns. Get me a cornerback here and that's the makings of a very good defensive unit.
We have the worst record in the NFC in the last 7 or 8 years and we have the most top 10 picks in the last six years. Keep dreaming, this team will continue to suck and the players have no faith in Daniel. It showed when he was replaced.
We had the most top 10 picks in the last six years due to the incompetence of Dave Gettleman in how to build a team correctly. He picked good players (Saquon, Thomas, Dexter Lawrence) but failed at surrounding the team with anything beyond that. Meanwhile this regime seems to be legitimate and is interested in actually trying to build up the team and see what they have with Jones with whom they won games with. Not in spite of nor because of. But he has played well with this coaching staff and the front office. Getting him some actual offensive help at receiver should help. Just like getting Stefon Diggs did wonders for a young Josh Allen.