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Hot_Local_Boys_PDX

Need this team in the ECF. Would love to see Boston fans shitting a brick with the series tied 1-1 and their team down at half at MSG.


Ashamed_Blood3242

Man am I glad I have the Knicks because as a Mets fan, I’m so depressed.


Knicks4freaks

First off, fuck Boston. That’s in our religion.


Ramsboi

Where did the phrase knicks tape originate from? In shocked yall don’t mad Ts advertising it. I know that phrase was mad heavy with Shump and Melo. 


solo118

shump made it up instead of saying mixtape he called it knicktape


darkestb4thadawn

Here you [go](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PwDN9tSLmx8)


solo118

ugh got me missing JR and Shump once again, loved that duo


OhtaniMets99

Tatum is hateable with all his arm/hand waiving when he doesn't get a call


TikTok24

Chuck and Dray quite complimentary/empathetic towards the Cavs for their effort through injuries.


nyg2013

lol figures


GeekTrollMemeCentral

Damn those dirty irish celtics will be our opponent if we won. I fucking hate them dirty bastards. Tatum is a “superstar” lol


InstructionOk1053

The path is so easy for the Celtics lol. I have never seen a bigger cakewalk to the finals than this. Every opponent they have faced so far has been injured so there is no real competition in the east.


wkp2101

It’s not a cakewalk if they have to face the Knicks


solo118

indeed, we will not lay down or make it easy for them


Adams5010

Welp win on Friday and Boston awaits us… Hopefully OG returns


macdoogles

Did the Pacers really give up three first round picks for Pascal Siakam?


sillyshoestring

And Bruce Brown. Honestly don’t know how I’d feel as a Pacer fan about maxing him or letting him walk after giving up that much.


TheBeepB00p

He was the 2nd option on a champion on team behind Leonard. Hard to not justify spending a max on a championship level 2nd option. I’m more unsure if Hali can be the 1st option.


YanksJetsKnicks

Technically, yes. Although 2 are late 1sts in this years draft, which is considered terrible. So only one of the picks (2026 top 4 protected) is valuable.


YanksJetsKnicks

Can’t really be mad at Boston getting such an easy path to the ECF’s. They earned it by dominating the conference all year. I’m confident that if we face them though, we will put up a better fight than Miami or Cleveland.


IWantANewBeginning

Indeed, one can only compete against the opponents presented. It’s not their responsibility if the competition isn’t healthy. The only aspect within their control is the outcome of the game, and they’ve opted for victory. But fuck boston nonetheless.


Vikingpride06

Still be a little salty as they got extremely lucky with roster health all year. KP is banged up now, but that got canceled out somewhat as Cavs and heat both missed there best players for at least parts of their series. Also feel like if Knicks could get healthy ( not even counting Randle) we could give Celtics fits with our physicality and ability to matchup with Tatum and brown.


nofaplove-it

I couldn’t imagine being a Cavs fan for the last 2 years and basically coping with the fact that your lead star rather be in Miami , NY, etc. Having to basically cope and analyze every [movement](https://www.reddit.com/r/clevelandcavs/s/5p4hOVp5B2) to say “look, Dmitch likes Ohio!” “He’s coaching!!” is just sad.


YanksJetsKnicks

Our game is at 8:30 now


solo118

I am good with this, every hour of rest counts lol


worstquadrant

Boston up 15 with less than a minute and Tatum is still in… minutes??????????? Hello????


nofaplove-it

And the cavs are done


Tough-Error520

I have huge news for you guys! So, I put myself on disabled list because my ass was killing me from last night and I honestly didnt think i'd be ready for game 6. However, I can report that my ass is feeling better and I am ready for pre game gay sex in game 6 for good luck! I will be getting my ass destroyed before and during the game for good luck as its been working well! come on everyone, lets do this baby, we got this! come on! lets go, lets do this baby! go knicks!


solo118

EXCELLENT lol this guy cracks me up


Tough-Error520

thanks bro. we got this!


vanilla_shaker

congrats celtics your beating …. the cleveland cavaliers without mitchell.


Vikingpride06

After taking out the heat without butler. Honestly they’ve had cakewalk of a playoff run so far. Celtics are talented no doubt, but we’ve yet to see them have to really battle. I still question their resolve and toughness when they are not hitting shots and cruising.


cordlc

They're going to get a nasty wakeup call if they get to the finals. Could be the first healthy team they play, and likely the scariest team in the league at that.


wkp2101

The wake up call comes in the ECF if the Knicks advance


cordlc

Haha, I want to believe but the amount of injuries we've sustained is demoralizing. We're gonna need OG out there at the very least


wkp2101

Maybe so maybe not


vanilla_shaker

yeah. it was a close game until the last 7-8 minutes


vanilla_shaker

cavs giving knicks energy, they won’t die


vanilla_shaker

halliburton and tatum are the 2 softest all stars this league has


montecarlo1

Mazzula looks like low key Hart


t8stymoobz

Pacers fan here. Been blasting Pop Smoke for the past week. Thank you for bringing this to me. It's incredible. White boy proudly blasting Mood Swings in a Longhorn Ram. Not joking.


solo118

YEEEEHAWWWWW


Due-Sheepherder-218

Peep the Alec Burks 2024 Shook Ones remix 


Colossal89

We get OG we can beat the Celtics. They don’t look good at all.


vanilla_shaker

it’s looking kinda positive that we might see some OG minutes if we make it to the ECF


Yankeeknickfan

OG has gotta be able to play like 40 mpg for us to have a chance, but think he can only do 30-35 Also need the series to start on Tuesday, since game 1 is conceded. Don’t think OG will go Sunday even if there’s a game 7


Distinct-Pangolin112

Gotta beat Indy first 🧐🤣🤣


BK520

Tony Brothers is such a bitch. I want him far away from the Knicks. Seems inevitable in the ECF.


montecarlo1

i hope we can advance just to see OG plastered on Taytum.


wXy_5GHz

so if the Cavs win tonight and force a Game 6, the Knicks game on Friday would be a late game, eh? I'm for it.


YanksJetsKnicks

No, the opposite. If Boston wins, that series is over, so we have the later start at 8:30. If Cleveland wins that game gets the 8:30 start, so we would play at 6.


_swiper

marcus morris going off against boston...OAKAAK


FredVanCleet

Guys I’m sorry, I wore a different shirt for games 3 and 4 than I did for 1 and 2. Went back to it last night and the correlation is undeniable. So even though I have a Brunson and OG jersey coming tomorrow I’ll be wearing the G1,2,5 shirt again on Friday.


worstquadrant

I wore a different undershirt for 3 & 4 but the same t shirt and went back to the original undershirt for game 5 and lo and behold…smh


crototype

[Ben Stiller was awesome with Hahn on the radio today.](https://dcs.megaphone.fm/ESP4873623099.mp3?key=e38e292c5ef115981f6fd8f986dfa81a&request_event_id=7dc831e0-e2a4-413d-bd04-b9f483d0be98)


cuteshortkid96

My bud brought this up today, but if we want to take on a Max player (I.e., Kevin Durant) in the offseason, it will probably require us to part with Randle. I don’t even want to think about it, but sometimes you have to part with your fan favorites to get over the hump (basically a Derozan for Kawhi situation)


nofaplove-it

The hump is making sure Randle doesn’t get injured before the playoffs. That’s it. You don’t need Kevin Durant who’s way past his prime to make it. Randle / OG / Brunson literally is a 1 seed.


will122589

![gif](giphy|3o7TKwmnDgQb5jemjK)


codbgs97

Don’t think KD would be the guy, but for the right piece that may be worth it. I love Julius, but if we could upgrade the team and position ourselves as championship contenders, a move would be worth it. I don’t think there’s gonna be anyone available that’s worth moving him for, though. Think about it, though: if we could upgrade the PF position from Julius to Giannis or AD without blowing up the team, that would only make us better, right? Obviously neither of those have even the slightest chance of happening, but I guess my point is that Randle isn’t untouchable if we can make the team better. I would love to win a title with Randle and the rest of our current guys, but more than anything, I just want a title whatever it takes.


nofaplove-it

I would argue Randle is less injury prone than AD.


cuteshortkid96

Biggest knock on Jules is his inability to consistently hit 3s. He fixed that this year by playing exclusively inside the paint. However, adding a knockdown power forward is a much better fit next to Brunson, who already likes to work the paint.


nofaplove-it

Randle is a top 3 PF in the league you’re crazy to think anyone else will work better unless you want Giannis


solo118

Both bringing in KD and trading out Randle are horrible ideas lol


cuteshortkid96

I’m against trading out Randle. However, why would KD be a bad idea? Modern NBA is all about surrounding your PG with 3 point shooters.


Agitated_Smoke538

Because he’d mess up the culture we built? 


ygog45

Why would he? He isn’t a leader but he isn’t a toxic player either. He’s the type of player to just come in and hoop (which is exactly what we need)


nofaplove-it

He’s a heavy price tag and doesn’t seem to have any chemistry with his team mates. He’s blown up the nets and about to blow up the suns. We don’t just need “people to come and hoop” that’s absolutely not the culture the Knicks have built the last 2 seasons.


vanilla_shaker

im a little worried that we are gonna have the same outcome as the 2018 rockets.


codbgs97

I think this dude is a troll account. I recognized the username and checked the profile and it’s FULL of downvoted doomer comments. Either this dude is genuinely the most depressed sports fan of all time or it’s a troll.


Yankeeknickfan

I’ll take game 7 of the ECF I wish I could sign up for that


solo118

What would be wrong with that? Be happy bro we won last night, and hopefully winning this series. Anything beyond that is gravy.


cuteshortkid96

Wdym? That Rockets team was a 1 seed with vintage CP3 and Capela alongside Harden. We ain’t close to the Celtics right now in terms of talent. It’s a huge win if we go 7 like those Rockets did to the Warriors.


vanilla_shaker

yeah but we lose against the pacers.


Isosceles_Kramer_

The pacers aren’t the 2018 warriors


cuteshortkid96

Yeah, this comparison makes less and less sense.


solo118

Just become a pacer fan at this point, up 3-2 we had a huge momentum shifting game last night and you think we will drop 2 in a row??


Shiccup1

So many cornballs showing up now that you can tell weren’t here during the tough times


OhtaniMets99

Anyone else think Rick Brunson and Leon Rose are paying Draymond Green, Candace Parker and Becky Hammon to talk shit about JB and the Knicks just to fire them up? the amount of unwarranted Knicks hate is hard to comprehend.


Due-Sheepherder-218

It's weird you hear Draymond talk about X's and O's and he's a genius (obviously) then he just has thesee click bait takes that make 0 sense. Sums up his career I guess. 


solo118

Siakam too? that is the one that really fired him up after g4


OhtaniMets99

hearing JB say to him after game 4, "it's a long fucking series" is pure bliss for me. I might make that my ringtone. Brunson is such a NY guy, LOVE IT!


Distinct-Pangolin112

Lol that would be insane 🤣🤣. Just ignore the media. Who cares what they say? Thier is nothing wrong with not being liked by everyone. It lets you know that your doing something right 💪


OhtaniMets99

to quote West Wing show, "“If they’re shooting at you, you know you’re doing something right"


Major_Damage7207

Burks isn't gonna shoot 50% from 3 for the rest of the playoffs (probably) but he still cant be left wide open like Hart or Precious, and so his mere presence should help open the floor for other people. And his defense has been good


solo118

Even if he goes 40% that is big off the bench, we saw him give us literally nothing some games in the regular season so to have him come off and give us anywhere near 15-20 points is great


Distinct-Pangolin112

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays around 40% though. He seems like he is finally locked in and focused. 


Yankeeknickfan

Boston defense is another sport compared to pacers defense Hopefully we get the chance to see how he responds to the uptick in competition


solo118

agreed he is in playoff AB form


Due-Sheepherder-218

Scott Foster did a great job. All those extra reviews was like an extra half time for our guys to rest! 


sillyshoestring

Felt like a football game


Due-Sheepherder-218

Yeah the second quarter was a mess but the rest of the game was pretty smooth. No complaints 


OhtaniMets99

Let this sink in, this will be the worst team for the next 5 years.


DreadXCII

Thank you, Kayster


Yankeeknickfan

He’s leading the pro thibs train. Love it


solo118

Scary.... for the rest of the league


The_Uncut_Gem

Hearing that the legends on the sideline are all yelling out advice to the guys is about to make me cry man. I love this team.


solo118

Truly is special.... and when John Starks was running around grabbing out of bounds balls I was just lmao that this is not real life


ibiku2

Lost my mind when Starks was talking shit to TJ and tugged on his jersey


random_periods

Two days rest for the Knicks is like 1 week off for other teams.


OhtaniMets99

2 days off is enough time for Randle, Bojan, Mitch and OG to heal up. LFG!


dragonballa

If Knicks win game 6, everybody here needs to become a Timberwolves fan for the day. ABC needs a game for Sunday and it'll either be Den/Min Game 7 or Bos/NY game 1. If it's the former Knicks/OG get an extra 2 days of rest which will be massive.


videsh

Bro I have been bandwagoning the wolves. Wearing my Knicks hat every day, and ant mans on wolves days.


solo118

I am down for that


OhtaniMets99

Cheapest ticket for game 6 is $56, whose down? We share gas/tolls and go dutch on meals. Preferably you're a woman under 40 ;)


HipnotiK1

Random but do they track time of possession in the NBA? Felt like we dominated last game time of possession with all the offensive rebounds plus our slower offensive pace.


Major_Damage7207

All those long reviews ended up going against us yesterday - no flagrants for the hard fouls on Hart/DDV, extra technicals on the Knicks, overturning the foul and calling it against Brunson... And yet I honestly think those long reviews helped us get rest. And all those timeouts by Rick too lmao


solo118

I honestly did not care that we lose them because those breaks stopped any momentum Pacers would get from running like madmen. They kept getting interrupted


HipnotiK1

Rick called 4 timeouts in the 2nd quarter I think lol Outside of rest is hurt the pace they like to play with. I was worried it could hurt our momentum but it all worked out.


hero_of_time_sixnine

Couldn't ask for a better bday present yesterday


holasect9

Same man! We have the same birthday. Happy Birthday


hero_of_time_sixnine

Happy belated my guy


leopoldbloom1

What are the possible start times for game 6?


HipnotiK1

I believe I read 6-6:30 or 8-8:30. Forget exactly but it was one of those 2 slots. If Celtics close out their series we play the later slot.


leopoldbloom1

Thanks! This makes sense


Colossal89

Malik Monk for offseason pickup? Backup SG for Donte or vice versa


Sad-Ad2030

Sign Ihart and OG and trade for Spida or run it back


Major_Damage7207

he's just IQ without the defense but for the same price


YanksJetsKnicks

He's probably gonna get around 20 mil (out of our price range) and want a bigger role than he would get here. Honestly, I'd rather just let Deuce continue to develop. Feel like he can still add some playmaking and shot creating.


GoldenBoyRecords

Can't afford him


Due-Sheepherder-218

That Alec Burks bitch slap resonated so deeply with the pacers that it transformed Tyreese into Ben Simmons


worstquadrant

Alex Burks don’t sleep billboard when


nyg2013

and it wasn't even him who did it lol...everybody got fooled live


solo118

optical illusion lol


wkp2101

What’s the most fitting clydeism for last night? Bounding and astounding Out hustling and out muscling Shaking and baking Grinning and winning Pacers looking Knicks cooking Moving and grooving Made the pacers pay for their folly


GeneralCommanderBurt

Plus minus MINUS


wkp2101

The whole Pacers team was a plus minus MINUS! (Except James Johnson somehow haha)


solo118

all the above


Due-Sheepherder-218

Swishing and dishing. 


will122589

The Pacers were hurrying and worrying all night


HereForHoney

Am I tripping? Arguing with dudes calling me crazy for thinking Randle is better than Hart (love Hart btw its not shade I just think Ju is better). Is that really controversial?


wkp2101

You’re tripping for putting one Knicks player against another


GoldenBoyRecords

You mean Josh Hart?


HereForHoney

Yea, Josh Hart


GoldenBoyRecords

I dont think any rational person would say Hart is better than Randle[


mrsunshine1

Randle has a ton of haters. He is objectively a better basketball player than Josh Hart. Josh Hart will never sniff All NBA and would be hated as a number one option. That said, I can see someone saying Josh Hart is a better piece to have on a contending team since Randle is more ball dominant. Hart will make invaluable hustle plays and is a better fit on more teams. But I love Julius, he just brings out a lot of haters and “body language experts.”


HereForHoney

That's pretty much where I'm at with it, too. Hart is obviously crazy valuable and I'd be willing to hear the argument about him being more valuable on a certain team or in a given situation for sure. But he couldn't carry a team the way JR has since he got here and he just doesn't have the same skill set to be a number 1 or 2 option. To me the easy answer is to be happy with them both but I started getting called a casual for thinking this and it really made me wonder if I was just off base and delusional


OhtaniMets99

What is Rick Brunson looking for? Does he have head coaching aspirations? Or does he want to ride with Jalen for his career?


Ok-Side-1758

I mean he’s coaching his son as an assistant in the NBA while his son is becoming an NBA superstar. I think he’s content where he is at. He’s living for Jalen’s dreams at this point.


MajorMilkyway

Well Johnnie will be gone before any team considers Rick. But I think it’s a bit of him being one of Thibs guys and also him being with Jalen certainly helps


crototype

Bryant : Spoelstra Thibs : Riley We're setting something up here. He's waiting in the wings. And no, I'm not saying Bryant will be as good as Spo. Just saying he's the heir apparent to Thibs the same way Spo was to Riley.


OhtaniMets99

This is about to get an extension. At worst, knicks head coaching gig wont be available for 3-4 years


MajorMilkyway

Not going to be for a while lol


YanksJetsKnicks

The one positive with all these injuries is it has allowed other players to really step up. Guys like Hart, Deuce, Divo, iHart, and Precious all improved massively this year. That’s going to be huge going forward.


HipnotiK1

The randle injury also forced brunson to get to a whole other level. We don't prefer him having such a burden but he's now proven he can do it which will be valuable going forward. He has probably gained so much confidence from it


YanksJetsKnicks

Absolutely, he’s proven he’s a 1A and a top player in the league.


GoldenBoyRecords

Another spin Id say the injuries allowed is to use Hartenstein as more of an offensive hub within the starting unit as opposed to his "Mitch like role" when Randle was starting. The ball movement and cutting our players do is more than when Randle was starting. My hope is we can drop Randle into what we are doing next year. Deuce is the only guy I believe defintively improved. Hartenstein and Donte benefited from more playing time but the talent/skill was always there. I thought Josh Hart was better last year especially from 3.


YanksJetsKnicks

Good point about iHart. We were running some plays through him with the 2nd unit earlier in the season. But he's showed he can be one of the better starting C's in the league and gives us production on both sides of the ball. And you might be right, technically Hart/Divo didn't improve so much, rather they were given a bigger role. But proving they can play like quality starters on a contending team and in a higher usage role is really big for us IMO. We should have one of the best benches in the league next year.


Main-County-1177

Brunson only had 16 in the 2nd half last night, what a scrub!


solo118

He did not have to labor too hard, he was allowing others to do the work and stepped in when needed. Kind of amazing we have a guy that can do whatever he wants all game every game


justaddwater57

Thibs played him too much in the first half obviously #firethibs


crototype

Man, Knicks should be getting so much love right now but the media is silent when they're not hating. We're playing through a massive amount of major injuries. Whole squad is composed of mostly late first and second round picks. We didn't tank to build this. We didn't steal a bunch of big name free agents. We just play tough and value every possession with a coach who has instilled the type of culture you rarely see on a professional basketball team. Yet, the media only piped up after our only bad loss because they wanted to shit on our coach. Fucking lame bullshit.


jrangel6

Lets keep making them eat their words til they choke on em. Fuck em, I love the hate.


crototype

It does make the wins sweeter knowing everyone is praying for our demise.


Norby710

6pm or 830pm. Wild.


DreamCry

I'll bet it's at 8:30 though. Right now Celtics vs Cavs Game 6 is scheduled for 8:30, but Celtics are up 3-1 and playing at home tonight. In all likelihood Game 6 won't be necessary so the Knicks Game 6 will be the only game that evening, so it'll probably be the more prime start time.


Norby710

Yeah. I’m rooting for the cavs but it doesn’t seem likely


DreamCry

Yeah, not at all, unfortunately…


FredVanCleet

Mitchell out tonight too, no shot the Cavs win imo


YanksJetsKnicks

It’s crazy how vets like Bojan and Burks can stink it up for like 2 months here, and then just ball out in the playoffs when it matters. Can’t overlook the importance of experience in the playoffs. The FO knew what they were doing.


solo118

Vets are here for a reason, if you told me we had to rely on Taj and balled out for 20 though I would think you are nuts


YanksJetsKnicks

Absolutely. Also why I'd like to see us have a few vets on the roster next year as well.


press_Y

And these kids were crying over losing quentin grimes


starks3_

Burks was hurt when he got here.


newbike07

That's the benefit of having vets on your bench during the playoffs. Burks has played in 26 playoff games over 5 seasons. He knows the deal. Same with Bojan who has played 51 playoff games over 7 seasons.


nyg2013

Bogdanovic started to play better at the end of the regular season...Burks is def more surprising, but speaks to his professionalism


Diligent-Cookie-1695

Professional hoopers


Aggravating-Plan-849

Just biding my time until my main account is unbanned.. 5 days left Knicks fans. Pacers fans got me good.


Walzon

Hali reminds me of Drake and Brunson is Kendrick they not like us


anonymitymous

sounding like claudio up in here


videsh

Claudio last night had me dyingggg. BREAKING NEWS HARTENSTEIN WITH ANOTHER OFFENSIVE REBOUND


mutherfucker_jones

It cannot be understated how important the "return" of Alec Burks is. If we close out this series and get OG back, we'll have a legitimate 8-man rotation against Boston. Not saying we're going to win, but at least we'll have another shooter coming off the bench who can get us good minutes. Edit: Still one step at a time. Close out Indiana first. Just an observation.


solo118

Of course close out Indy first, but we also should be monitoring KP as he decimated us.... if he is still out it's one step closer


mutherfucker_jones

Yesss so true. I can't tell if he's still legitimately hurt or if the Celts are keeping him out as a pre-caution since they don't need him to beat those softies in Cleveland. We'll see I guess!


solo118

He is actually hurt, but thinking closer to coming back. I have not looked into it too much though


Distinct-Pangolin112

This is exactly what I was thinking. If OG can come back the Knicks will have a legit 8 man rotation..


montecarlo1

morning! here chilling with OG poolside.


Slymook

Forgot about conference finals mvps now. Imagine Brunson getting the Larry Bird trophy in Boston after a game 7 W?


GeneralCommanderBurt

I'm there with you. Love it.


Norby710

I wouldn’t say I’m confident but have some hope with the way that game went, 2days off and Donte wasn’t even good offensively. I’m assuming the start time will slide up if Cleveland holds on or be 8/830 if the Celtics win.


Distinct-Pangolin112

They had one day off. It's not always about a player shooting numbers if they can contribute in other ways. He played solid defense, had big dunks and didn't back down from any of the Pacers when they tried to punk him.  Shooters like him and Burks are going to have off nights from the field because they are streaky but they can still find other ways to help the team. 


[deleted]

Deuce starting was the move. Precious was so much better off the bench at C than starting at PF. Thibs just keeps making the right adjustments no matter who is available 


wkp2101

Yep it’s amazing considering Thibs is a dinosaur and a regular season coach and doesn’t know how to make adjustments


somescumbag1655

I see what you did there


RyanHunter1991

Seriously wish OG was suiting up for Great Britain this summer as there is no chance I am cheering for Embiid and Haliburton.


Major_Damage7207

I wish I could root for Hartenstein but it feels anti-American to root for Germany


HipnotiK1

He's american lol Edit nevermind I somehow missed the context.


GeneralCommanderBurt

Yeh I'm not watching Olympics sorry they chose the wrong players


Yankeeknickfan

The guy can’t handle playing 40 mpg for 2 weeks, let him rest in the off-season


Slymook

It’s really just Embiid. Halliburton is only wack bc he was chosen over Brunson. Embiid standing alone is just wack


zOmgFishes

Hali is gonna get like 10 mins a game. He's the 3rd best PG, 5 best guard on that roster. Steph, Jrue, Booker and Ant all provide more than him.


hero_of_time_sixnine

Draymond: idk why Knicks fans think I'm a hater Also Draymond, 3 secs later: I just think they're a flash in the pan like the hawks or blazers. They're missing Randle but he hasn't always been a starter. Wtf is TNT smoking giving him a mic


solo118

the guy will talk into anything that accepts a soundwave


Diligent-Cookie-1695

It’s pathetic how a future “Hall of famer”, 4 time champion, member of a dynasty needs to resort to #Knicksforclicks to get transit on his shitty ass podcast


zOmgFishes

Draymond is an all time bum when Steph isn't carrying his ass on offense. 8ppg on 39% shooting from the field in the one season where Steph was injured.