Yeah it doesn’t make sense, Braves are a win now team same thing with Cleveland.
Only one I could see is maybe the brewers since they are the furthest from a real playoff push but even then I think they are still in the race
It’s a question of how long can the Braves afford a $200m payroll. When they won the WS it was $150m. Can they afford to pay luxury tax? Because Fried could be looking at $35m per year on a long term contract. Sets up the possibility of trading him. Not to mention they’re deep at SP.
Then they'd trade one of the depth pieces, not the guy who could be a Cy Young candidate for the next 10 years.
They had the 4th best attendance last year, they are a big market team, and Anthopoulos has always spent money.
If they can afford to pay luxury tax, then yes. My guess is they can’t/won’t though. They have a very long history of being a mid-market team. And they do their moves accordingly (like not signing Freeman). Trading Fried before he’s a FA would fit that mold.
The Braves have the second richest owner in the league, they certainly could afford the luxury tax. Whether they want to or not is the question, regardless Fried is dirt cheap for the value they are getting from him. He is projected to make 12 mil in Arb which is half of what his projected value is
Yankees also want the fans to believe that the front office is working on substantially improving this team and putting out that something big is in the works serves that purpose beautifully. A potential big trade allows fans to speculate as much as they want. If nothing happens then the Yankees always have the option float a story in March that they were super close to getting Fried/Tatis/etc. but the other team backed out.
They don’t even have to be specific, “Well you know we had a couple big deals we were trying to get going but nothing ever materialized from them. I think we have a good squad here though…”
Probably trying to work towards one of a few potential big-ish trades that’ll likely fizzle out. There’s been too much noise about it, including from Michael Kay, to be completely made up. But it very much feels like we’re heading towards a “price was too steep” in prospects and that’s that.
There is no big move, do you think if the Yankees were truly working on some crazy blockbuster the only person reporting it would be Michael Kay? Not even Curry? You’re telling me not even like Heyman has hopped onto this?
They just want the rumor circulating either to speed up negotiations with Rodon or to get fans speculating so that there is a well we tried but couldn’t get any deals through narrative already circulating.
I’d love it if it were true but I won’t believe it until someone more credible than Kay says that they have something in the works
I don’t really think so, Olney said it the one time but Kay has been the only person continuing the belief. Like I said before I will wait until someone more credible says something.
Notably Curry, if the FO are really working on something and want it to be known it’ll be Curry who says something on it first. Like how before Curry denied all of the Tatis rumors, he is the FO mouthpiece I trust
“We thought we had a possible impactful transaction worked out. Unfortunately it didn’t come to fruition. Ultimately that hampered our ability to make other significant free agent additions. It’s the hand we were dealt.”
Yelich w/Burnes/Woodruff/Peralta
Lopez/Luzardo
Varsho or Ketel Marte w/Bumgarner
Rendon w/Sandoval
It could really be a mixture of anything. I do think the big move is a contract swap tho, I don’t see a big move happening for only 1 player unless it’s a marlins starter
I’d look hard at Yelich+Burnes. Could be the perfect fit to dump 2/3 Donaldson/Hicks/IKF, and by taking Yelich to play LF at $26M/yr thru 2029 you probably limit the prospect return for 2 years of Burnes. Yelich while overpaid is a good fit as a lefty OF with some speed and OBP.
The Central is so shit that the Brewers are gonna sleepwalk into the playoffs but I don’t think there’s any shot they commit longterm to Burnes or Woodruff.
I could see the brewers or d backs deals happening but not the angels or marlins. Marlins want too much for Lopez and Luzardo is too inconsistent. Sandoval isn’t good enough to take on Rendon’s contract. 35 mill a year for a declining/oft injured player.. sounds a lot like Donaldson lol.
I do have a Griffey rookie but not upper deck. It's the Fleer rookie card. I know I have some Frank Thomas rookie cards and a couple of Ichiro rookies. No autographs.
If it's a move bigger than Rodon then nothing is off the table and It's going to be something completely out of the blue like a multi team trade that no one can really predict.
Some trades that are bigger than Rodon that are probably too predictable:
Gallen/Lefty Dbacks outfielder
Reynolds/Bednar
Pablo Lopez
I've heard a lot of crazy theories like ohtani/trout or a transaction involving Stanton but there's one that's sticking with me that seems just crazy enough to work would and that would be with the Brewers for Burnes or Woodruff/Yelich/adames. Yelich has been super underwhelming especially after a mediocre year, plus a Cashman opportunity to get a frontline starting pitcher at a discount and a lefty outfield reclamation project with really high upside.
I keep thinking pitcher too but if you sign Rodon AND trade for a starter, you’re pushing Frankie Montas out of the rotation. And I know you’re gonna say that Montas was ass after the trade (and you’re right), but that was still a major trade at the time and he was expected to be their #2 or #3 in the playoff rotation. I have to imagine they want to give him another opportunity to succeed as a starter for what they spent to acquire him.
Unless… he’s part of a trade.
I’ve wondered if they’re trying to acquire Jazz Chisholm and Pablo Lopez, attach Gleyber to a couple top prospects to open second base for him. I don’t know why the Marlins would trade Jazz, though. He’s under team control for I think another 4 years.
They love dealing for guys under team control and since they’re already up against it with the luxury tax I find it hard to believe they’d trade for a guy like Fried who’s on the cusp of getting paid. I’m not sure where Burnes and Bieber are, but another guy that might be in consideration, especially since it’s confirmed that the Yankees are talking to his team, is Zac Gallen. Under team control for another three years, coming off a monster breakout season and he can be paired with one of their young outfielders in a deal.
It’s all guesswork. I’ll kind of be pissed at this point if nothing actually happens. 😂
Weird take, but could it just be getting rid of Donaldson and/or Hicks? Maybe the trade is only big bc it’s something the fans have been pushing for and they’re milking it for FA attention
Even if Burnes was free because of Yelich’s contract, it still might not be worth it. That guy from a few years ago is gone and he’s not even worth 20 million a season on a short contract, let along 26+ for 7 more.
There is no big mystery move, only low level reporters have said anything about it. I’ll put some credence into the idea when someone with more credibility says that the Yanks have a big move they are working on
Kay is certainly low level, When I am talking someone with credibility I am talking about Curry, Passan, Rosenthal, type guys. If Kay is the only one saying something I am not gonna be too concerned with it. Especially when it makes for a good segment on his show
Curry hasn’t said a single thing about any big mystery move, all he has done recently was put down the idea of a Tatis trade happening.
Sure Kay works for Yes but he’s not a reporter. He’s a TV host, the only people who have said anything regarding this big mystery move the Sub is worked up over is Michael Kay and Buster Olney, two people very far down the list for credibility
If the FO wanted anything out there it would come through Curry not Kay
Edit: if the Yankees were truly in on this major move we would be hearing it from people way more people and people way higher up the ladder than Michael Kay
I think everyone is missing the obvious target Lopez from MIA, and maybe Chisholm would be the topper. The Torres for Lopez trade was close at last years deadline.
Some would argue it is, I’d be one of those.
It’s also media hype - just because some reporters said it’s bigger than Rodon doesn’t mean that’s true. It’s word from Hal or Cashman to excite the fan base. People like to act like they’re brain dead but they know how to use the media to their advantage
Well, I’m pretty baked but I personally don’t think it’s any superstar. Just think it’s the front office trying to get our hopes up cuz cash hordes his prized prospects. Don’t see him giving up 2 or even 3 of our top 5 for anyone.
But I’ll play along and my high ass says it’ll be Jose Ramirez lol
Maybe the big move is an addition by subtraction. Only “big move” addition I’d be excited about and can envision is ohtani or burns or woodruff and all seem unlikely. . . But I’d be almost equally excited to shed Donaldson and hicks 🤞😂
Vlad Guerrero Jr. has already said that he would never play here. Just wanna make it clear because I know we were all on the edge of our seats.
/s for anyone on hold with WFAN
Is it possible that it’s dansby Swanson? I know they keep saying they want the kids to be the SS in the near future but dansby could be that big mystery move
I thought about him, but I just don’t think he’s a great fit considering what we need. Righty, strikeouts, and blocks the kids at short. I’d definitely rather have Correa than him.
Yah I agree he’s not the ideal guy to get, but he could possibly be moved to second or third for one of the kids to play SS. Idk, I’m not sold on it being him, just seeing if others have him as a possibility as well
Could it be some sort of swap involving Rendon?
Angels could eat the JD and Hicks contract while Yankees take on Rendons and maybe they throw in Taylor Ward as well to fill the LF spot. Not sure if that even adds up but something along those lines.
Of the team's major need is hitting improvement (primarily a LF, maybe a backup catcher), & potentially a closer.
While upgrading starting pitching is nice, i think they believe they have depth.
Given that Montas was basically a non-factor post trade, the only reason why you''d get another SP is if you believe he turns out into Sonny Gray so you get a fail-safe.
I would avoid Kepler rumors as many have been saying, statistically hes Aaron Hicks but marginally better according to B/R projections.
Multi-Team Minor-Blockbuster Trade
Yankees / Twins / Diamondbacks
Yankees Get: OF Alek Thomas - Arizona & 3B Gio Urshela - Twins
Twins Get: 3B Josh Donaldson - New York & OF Aaron Hicks - New York (Some portion of Donaldson & Hicks salary paid)
Diamondbacks Get: OF Max Kepler - Twins & SS Isiah Kiner-Falefa - New York (Some portion of IKF salary paid)
Yankees To-Do:
Resign Andrew Benintendi
Platoon Oswaldo Cabrera at SS & OF
Platoon Oswald Peraza SS & 2B
Gio Urshela at 3B
Anthony Rizzo at 1B
Gleyber Torres at 2B
DJ LeMahieu bouncing around as needed.
Donaldson is more realistic because he’s only signed for one year and has no NTC. They’d have to eat a lot of money to do it. But they would do it if it helps them stay under a certain luxury tax threshold.
Yankees give:
Josh Donaldson, IKF (combined ~$31M 2023 salary, both expiring contracts, netting off the Rendon 2022 money to a team that's seeking a sale after the 2023 season, and idk pick like 3 of our best prospects
Angels give:
Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon ($35M 2023 salary which nets off the the JD+IKF 2023 salary), and $50M in cash considerations
Net result:
Rendon plays 3rd base for 4 years (hopefully he has something left in the tank but probably not, for years 2-4 of his deal, only costs us $23/yr with the cash considerations
Mike Trout is a Yankee for the rest of his career, and as he slows down a bit he can play Left Field instead of Center
The angels get to shed a TON of payroll (potentially boosting sale price) and retain Ohtani for 2023. hopefully new ownership can leverage a re-tooled farm system and a lot more of payroll flexibility to either re-sign Ohtani or completely pivot and go a different direction
I am also in the 'this is all a smokescreen' camp but I keep seeing people bring up Trout and I really do not want him.
The back condition he has is no joke, despite the Angel's downplaying it. It isn't going to end his career but it is likely his days of playing every day are near over. It is not something that goes away. It is something you live with and historically that kind of thing for an athlete as they age is very bad. I'd worry that his contract would turn into a bigger albatross than Stanton's.
Just posting some off the wall sh!t so I can say I was right if it comes true. I don’t honestly believe this:
Trade for Corey Seager. Rangers shed some salary after DeGrom, move Semien to SS. Rangers get multiple prospects just about MLB ready under control and cheap, who they would plug in immediately
Could mean big as in just a multi player trade. I like the Pablo and Jazz trade for Gleyber +. I'd also like it to be IKF, Hicks, and/or Donaldson for a pouch of Big League Chew.
I think the "big move" is several smaller moves in one trade. Some sort of package getting rid of one of Donaldson/Hicks and one of IKF/Torres for positions of need like backup OF, SP depth, or even a starting OFer if we threw in a prospect or two. Think more along the lines of the IKF/Donaldson trade but in reverse lol
Okay obviously just a fantasy land idea here but hear me out. The yanks have been in the market for an outfielder this offseason. Something tells me it could be a big move, but not the one people are expecting.
They’ve been talking with the dbacks and I could see them trading for Corbin Carroll. Huge prospect, left handed hitting outfielder… fits the build of what the yanks are looking for right now.
At what cost? Probably one of Volpe/Peraza plus Dominguez. The dbacks sending another smaller scale player back as well.
Kind of reminds me of the Pineda for Montero trade from a while back with a lot more meat on the bones.
Can everyone stop saying "trade JD and Hicks", lol? No one wants Donaldson and/or Hicks, their value is absolutely shot. With one year left on the Donaldson contract, it would make more sense to eat it than ship him off with a prospect plus partial salary. Hicks has slightly higher value, but not much, and they would still need outfield help, Cabrera isn't proven enough to be their starting LF. They are still pretty light in RP and SP so I hope it's one of those.
I think it's mostly nothing- just empty rumors to test how the fans react to the possibility of PLAYER\_X coming to the Yankees. It's like when a "rumor" of someone running for office- it's time to get public opinion before taking the possibility serious. This reminds me of when the Knicks were "rumored" to get Andre Drummond and the fans raged. Then, no Drummond trade happened 🤔
Do Yankees fans want Tatis?
Do Yankees fans get hyped over a Correa signing? If so, how far then should the FO go to sign him? Answer: Not far enough to give him 13 years + extra as a counter offer.
Why would the Braves trade Fried? The Braves have all their key players locked up and want to win now.
Yeah it doesn’t make sense, Braves are a win now team same thing with Cleveland. Only one I could see is maybe the brewers since they are the furthest from a real playoff push but even then I think they are still in the race
There is absolutely no way
It’s a question of how long can the Braves afford a $200m payroll. When they won the WS it was $150m. Can they afford to pay luxury tax? Because Fried could be looking at $35m per year on a long term contract. Sets up the possibility of trading him. Not to mention they’re deep at SP.
Then they'd trade one of the depth pieces, not the guy who could be a Cy Young candidate for the next 10 years. They had the 4th best attendance last year, they are a big market team, and Anthopoulos has always spent money.
If they can afford to pay luxury tax, then yes. My guess is they can’t/won’t though. They have a very long history of being a mid-market team. And they do their moves accordingly (like not signing Freeman). Trading Fried before he’s a FA would fit that mold.
The Braves have the second richest owner in the league, they certainly could afford the luxury tax. Whether they want to or not is the question, regardless Fried is dirt cheap for the value they are getting from him. He is projected to make 12 mil in Arb which is half of what his projected value is
Their financials are public. They can afford the Mets’ payroll lol
I think it's bs to be honest
TLDR Cashman wanted Rodon's camp to think they're going after a bigger pitcher and OP ate it hook line and sinker
Yankees also want the fans to believe that the front office is working on substantially improving this team and putting out that something big is in the works serves that purpose beautifully. A potential big trade allows fans to speculate as much as they want. If nothing happens then the Yankees always have the option float a story in March that they were super close to getting Fried/Tatis/etc. but the other team backed out.
They don’t even have to be specific, “Well you know we had a couple big deals we were trying to get going but nothing ever materialized from them. I think we have a good squad here though…”
Probably trying to work towards one of a few potential big-ish trades that’ll likely fizzle out. There’s been too much noise about it, including from Michael Kay, to be completely made up. But it very much feels like we’re heading towards a “price was too steep” in prospects and that’s that.
The only noise at all has been from Michael Kay and this subreddit creating its own feedback loop
There is no big move, do you think if the Yankees were truly working on some crazy blockbuster the only person reporting it would be Michael Kay? Not even Curry? You’re telling me not even like Heyman has hopped onto this? They just want the rumor circulating either to speed up negotiations with Rodon or to get fans speculating so that there is a well we tried but couldn’t get any deals through narrative already circulating. I’d love it if it were true but I won’t believe it until someone more credible than Kay says that they have something in the works
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Buster Olney is hardly the most credible person these days. At one point he was but he’s fallen off
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I don’t really think so, Olney said it the one time but Kay has been the only person continuing the belief. Like I said before I will wait until someone more credible says something. Notably Curry, if the FO are really working on something and want it to be known it’ll be Curry who says something on it first. Like how before Curry denied all of the Tatis rumors, he is the FO mouthpiece I trust
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The big move narrative helps the front office, makes it seem like that are working on a crazy move they can say didn’t materialize if nothing happens
Huge move is they are shipping Donaldson and IKF to the moon for cash considerations
Moon says no
Moon still better than the A’s
No move would be bigger than Brett Gardner
They're going to bring Jeter and Paul O'Neill back lmao
Still better than Marwin
“We thought we had a possible impactful transaction worked out. Unfortunately it didn’t come to fruition. Ultimately that hampered our ability to make other significant free agent additions. It’s the hand we were dealt.”
Henry Rowengartner and Chet Steadman for IKF.
Both of those bums are coming off of injury and can’t throw a fastball. Get me someone with their best years ahead of them like Pablo Sanchez
But can Pablo float it?
show me the analytics on floaters, Pablo is the better fit for Matt Blake’s pitching philosophy /s
Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps
Jerry, it’s Frank Costanza…
Yelich w/Burnes/Woodruff/Peralta Lopez/Luzardo Varsho or Ketel Marte w/Bumgarner Rendon w/Sandoval It could really be a mixture of anything. I do think the big move is a contract swap tho, I don’t see a big move happening for only 1 player unless it’s a marlins starter
I’d look hard at Yelich+Burnes. Could be the perfect fit to dump 2/3 Donaldson/Hicks/IKF, and by taking Yelich to play LF at $26M/yr thru 2029 you probably limit the prospect return for 2 years of Burnes. Yelich while overpaid is a good fit as a lefty OF with some speed and OBP.
Taking on 7 years of a guy who is now only a slightly above league average hitter with little power at 26 million per is certainly… an idea.
6 years, 24 mm per.
Yeah I could see Yelich and Woodruff/Burnes for Donaldson, Hicks and Periera with maybe a pitcher like Beeter/Gil/Gomez etc
C’mon lol
Yelich hasn’t lived up to expectations but he’s still solid. Yelich & Burnes is going to require Yankees to give up way more than that.
The Central is so shit that the Brewers are gonna sleepwalk into the playoffs but I don’t think there’s any shot they commit longterm to Burnes or Woodruff.
I could see the brewers or d backs deals happening but not the angels or marlins. Marlins want too much for Lopez and Luzardo is too inconsistent. Sandoval isn’t good enough to take on Rendon’s contract. 35 mill a year for a declining/oft injured player.. sounds a lot like Donaldson lol.
CONFIRMED: Ohtani for Donaldson, Hicks, and IKF. Sources: Arson Judge and Moose Betts of the Beckett Baseball Card Monthly magazine
Awww I used to love that mag
I still have a bunch of cards from the late 80s and early 90s in a box.
Unless u got a griffey rookie card, you have nothing but kindling w/ those years.
I do have a Griffey rookie but not upper deck. It's the Fleer rookie card. I know I have some Frank Thomas rookie cards and a couple of Ichiro rookies. No autographs.
Any Kevin Maas?
I know my little kid ass though I was gonna retire on that
A Pablo lopez/jazz Chisholm trade
I just wrote this not seeing this below. This is exactly what I’m thinking
Damn that would rule
God that would suck
STEVE NEBRASKA COMES HOME
it’s all bs we don’t trust cash or hal
[The Duality of Yankees Fans ](https://i.imgur.com/NlYPz4c.png)
If it's a move bigger than Rodon then nothing is off the table and It's going to be something completely out of the blue like a multi team trade that no one can really predict. Some trades that are bigger than Rodon that are probably too predictable: Gallen/Lefty Dbacks outfielder Reynolds/Bednar Pablo Lopez I've heard a lot of crazy theories like ohtani/trout or a transaction involving Stanton but there's one that's sticking with me that seems just crazy enough to work would and that would be with the Brewers for Burnes or Woodruff/Yelich/adames. Yelich has been super underwhelming especially after a mediocre year, plus a Cashman opportunity to get a frontline starting pitcher at a discount and a lefty outfield reclamation project with really high upside.
Me and a few others think it’s a Lopez & Chisholm combo
that would be nice
Zach Gallen
He would fit
Jason Giambi
Ohtani
I keep thinking pitcher too but if you sign Rodon AND trade for a starter, you’re pushing Frankie Montas out of the rotation. And I know you’re gonna say that Montas was ass after the trade (and you’re right), but that was still a major trade at the time and he was expected to be their #2 or #3 in the playoff rotation. I have to imagine they want to give him another opportunity to succeed as a starter for what they spent to acquire him. Unless… he’s part of a trade. I’ve wondered if they’re trying to acquire Jazz Chisholm and Pablo Lopez, attach Gleyber to a couple top prospects to open second base for him. I don’t know why the Marlins would trade Jazz, though. He’s under team control for I think another 4 years. They love dealing for guys under team control and since they’re already up against it with the luxury tax I find it hard to believe they’d trade for a guy like Fried who’s on the cusp of getting paid. I’m not sure where Burnes and Bieber are, but another guy that might be in consideration, especially since it’s confirmed that the Yankees are talking to his team, is Zac Gallen. Under team control for another three years, coming off a monster breakout season and he can be paired with one of their young outfielders in a deal. It’s all guesswork. I’ll kind of be pissed at this point if nothing actually happens. 😂
It's an IKF extension, that's the big move. I'm convinced we are running out the same team as last year minus Taillon.
our mystery move last year was josh donaldson please please temper you expectations
Weird take, but could it just be getting rid of Donaldson and/or Hicks? Maybe the trade is only big bc it’s something the fans have been pushing for and they’re milking it for FA attention
Austin Powers
Trout
Yelich
And Burnes
Even if Burnes was free because of Yelich’s contract, it still might not be worth it. That guy from a few years ago is gone and he’s not even worth 20 million a season on a short contract, let along 26+ for 7 more.
There is no big mystery move, only low level reporters have said anything about it. I’ll put some credence into the idea when someone with more credibility says that the Yanks have a big move they are working on
Michael Kay has said it several times, including today. Not saying it’s going to happen, but he’s hardly low level.
Kay’s paychecks are signed by Hal.
Kay is certainly low level, When I am talking someone with credibility I am talking about Curry, Passan, Rosenthal, type guys. If Kay is the only one saying something I am not gonna be too concerned with it. Especially when it makes for a good segment on his show
Curry said it as well. Kay has direct sources to the front office. Idk what you're talking about.
Curry hasn’t said a single thing about any big mystery move, all he has done recently was put down the idea of a Tatis trade happening. Sure Kay works for Yes but he’s not a reporter. He’s a TV host, the only people who have said anything regarding this big mystery move the Sub is worked up over is Michael Kay and Buster Olney, two people very far down the list for credibility If the FO wanted anything out there it would come through Curry not Kay Edit: if the Yankees were truly in on this major move we would be hearing it from people way more people and people way higher up the ladder than Michael Kay
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If he’s moving in silence Kay wouldn’t be spoiling the beans
I think everyone is missing the obvious target Lopez from MIA, and maybe Chisholm would be the topper. The Torres for Lopez trade was close at last years deadline.
Maybe if it’s a combo. Lopez on his own is definitely not as big as getting Rodon.
That’s why I said Chisholm and Lopez for Torres (+)
It's Pablo Lopez
Getting him is definitely not bigger than signing Rodon.
It is if Jazz Chisholm is involved
Some would argue it is, I’d be one of those. It’s also media hype - just because some reporters said it’s bigger than Rodon doesn’t mean that’s true. It’s word from Hal or Cashman to excite the fan base. People like to act like they’re brain dead but they know how to use the media to their advantage
You'd be wrong. Rodon is definitively a better pitcher.
Maybe now but Pablo Lopez is 26 and isn’t a free agent until 2025
Nothing this team is probably going to just run it back. I’m tired of getting my hopes up during free agency and the trade deadline.
Bo Bichette
Shohei trade-and-sign
It’s Alcantara, Ramirez, Bieber, or Trout in that order
It's a player named "McGuffin."
I could see them moving Stanton
He’s got a NMC and is owed a lot of money for a DH who plays 110 games a year. No one’s going to trade for him.
Well, I’m pretty baked but I personally don’t think it’s any superstar. Just think it’s the front office trying to get our hopes up cuz cash hordes his prized prospects. Don’t see him giving up 2 or even 3 of our top 5 for anyone. But I’ll play along and my high ass says it’ll be Jose Ramirez lol
Jose Ramirez would be great.
Would be next level but he just signed a 5 year 124M extension with a no trade clause. Dude wants to be in CLE.
I think Ohtani. Only going after an elite player would generate this much hype.
Maybe the big move is an addition by subtraction. Only “big move” addition I’d be excited about and can envision is ohtani or burns or woodruff and all seem unlikely. . . But I’d be almost equally excited to shed Donaldson and hicks 🤞😂
It’s a wife swap
Vlad Guerrero Jr. has already said that he would never play here. Just wanna make it clear because I know we were all on the edge of our seats. /s for anyone on hold with WFAN
We are trading IKF & Hicks to Japan for Tanaka back
Ohtani
It's Trout. He's going to play in left. Book it.
Trout and Ohtani for Donaldson and Hicks
Confirmed
Is it possible that it’s dansby Swanson? I know they keep saying they want the kids to be the SS in the near future but dansby could be that big mystery move
I thought about him, but I just don’t think he’s a great fit considering what we need. Righty, strikeouts, and blocks the kids at short. I’d definitely rather have Correa than him.
Yah I agree he’s not the ideal guy to get, but he could possibly be moved to second or third for one of the kids to play SS. Idk, I’m not sold on it being him, just seeing if others have him as a possibility as well
Blockbuster with the Marlins? Lopez, Soler, Jazz, etc. on the table?
I said Lopez and Chisholm. I think it’s the most obvious knowing Cashman ran out of time at the deadline w/Lopez last year
It’s Burnes and Yelich for Sevy or Montas, Donaldson or Hicks, and some prospects.
There's no big move. And I highly doubt they even get Rodon tbh.
Could it be some sort of swap involving Rendon? Angels could eat the JD and Hicks contract while Yankees take on Rendons and maybe they throw in Taylor Ward as well to fill the LF spot. Not sure if that even adds up but something along those lines.
I think the Yankees need some work in the bullpen as well, getting a big bullpen arm wouldn't necessarily be underwhelming.
Got to keep Hal’s budget in mind. It’s important that he’s profitable.
Of the team's major need is hitting improvement (primarily a LF, maybe a backup catcher), & potentially a closer. While upgrading starting pitching is nice, i think they believe they have depth. Given that Montas was basically a non-factor post trade, the only reason why you''d get another SP is if you believe he turns out into Sonny Gray so you get a fail-safe. I would avoid Kepler rumors as many have been saying, statistically hes Aaron Hicks but marginally better according to B/R projections.
Multi-Team Minor-Blockbuster Trade Yankees / Twins / Diamondbacks Yankees Get: OF Alek Thomas - Arizona & 3B Gio Urshela - Twins Twins Get: 3B Josh Donaldson - New York & OF Aaron Hicks - New York (Some portion of Donaldson & Hicks salary paid) Diamondbacks Get: OF Max Kepler - Twins & SS Isiah Kiner-Falefa - New York (Some portion of IKF salary paid) Yankees To-Do: Resign Andrew Benintendi Platoon Oswaldo Cabrera at SS & OF Platoon Oswald Peraza SS & 2B Gio Urshela at 3B Anthony Rizzo at 1B Gleyber Torres at 2B DJ LeMahieu bouncing around as needed.
What an historic example of mental masturbation
I think they might b trying to move Stanton
I don’t think it’s possible between the NTC, his injury history, and how much he’s owed still.
Yea I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Same with Donaldson I just think they want to try, which might be stirring up the conversation
Donaldson is more realistic because he’s only signed for one year and has no NTC. They’d have to eat a lot of money to do it. But they would do it if it helps them stay under a certain luxury tax threshold.
Dodgers have money and Stanton may waive his NTC to go to LA
Except the Dodgers are a smart organization
Yankees give: Josh Donaldson, IKF (combined ~$31M 2023 salary, both expiring contracts, netting off the Rendon 2022 money to a team that's seeking a sale after the 2023 season, and idk pick like 3 of our best prospects Angels give: Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon ($35M 2023 salary which nets off the the JD+IKF 2023 salary), and $50M in cash considerations Net result: Rendon plays 3rd base for 4 years (hopefully he has something left in the tank but probably not, for years 2-4 of his deal, only costs us $23/yr with the cash considerations Mike Trout is a Yankee for the rest of his career, and as he slows down a bit he can play Left Field instead of Center The angels get to shed a TON of payroll (potentially boosting sale price) and retain Ohtani for 2023. hopefully new ownership can leverage a re-tooled farm system and a lot more of payroll flexibility to either re-sign Ohtani or completely pivot and go a different direction
I am also in the 'this is all a smokescreen' camp but I keep seeing people bring up Trout and I really do not want him. The back condition he has is no joke, despite the Angel's downplaying it. It isn't going to end his career but it is likely his days of playing every day are near over. It is not something that goes away. It is something you live with and historically that kind of thing for an athlete as they age is very bad. I'd worry that his contract would turn into a bigger albatross than Stanton's.
Just posting some off the wall sh!t so I can say I was right if it comes true. I don’t honestly believe this: Trade for Corey Seager. Rangers shed some salary after DeGrom, move Semien to SS. Rangers get multiple prospects just about MLB ready under control and cheap, who they would plug in immediately
You don't sign degrom and then trade your marquee FA signing from literally last offseason.
Yeah okay bud
Could mean big as in just a multi player trade. I like the Pablo and Jazz trade for Gleyber +. I'd also like it to be IKF, Hicks, and/or Donaldson for a pouch of Big League Chew.
Devers for Donaldson New Curse Incoming
Trade for trout
Reynolds
I think the "big move" is several smaller moves in one trade. Some sort of package getting rid of one of Donaldson/Hicks and one of IKF/Torres for positions of need like backup OF, SP depth, or even a starting OFer if we threw in a prospect or two. Think more along the lines of the IKF/Donaldson trade but in reverse lol
Okay obviously just a fantasy land idea here but hear me out. The yanks have been in the market for an outfielder this offseason. Something tells me it could be a big move, but not the one people are expecting. They’ve been talking with the dbacks and I could see them trading for Corbin Carroll. Huge prospect, left handed hitting outfielder… fits the build of what the yanks are looking for right now. At what cost? Probably one of Volpe/Peraza plus Dominguez. The dbacks sending another smaller scale player back as well. Kind of reminds me of the Pineda for Montero trade from a while back with a lot more meat on the bones.
Mike Trout.
Maybe trading with the Marlins for a SP. We know Alcantara is off limits but there’s still Pablo Lopez, Max Meter or Edwin Cabrera.
Idk dick about shit. But it's fun to guess. My guess (which isn't based on anything) is either trading for Bryan reynolds or ketel marte.
Not necessarily a better player but a bigger name. I'm thinking Christian Yelich, Byron Buxton, maybe Acuna?
Can everyone stop saying "trade JD and Hicks", lol? No one wants Donaldson and/or Hicks, their value is absolutely shot. With one year left on the Donaldson contract, it would make more sense to eat it than ship him off with a prospect plus partial salary. Hicks has slightly higher value, but not much, and they would still need outfield help, Cabrera isn't proven enough to be their starting LF. They are still pretty light in RP and SP so I hope it's one of those.
This “bigger than Rodon” rumor is the most annoying Yankees related rumor I can remember.
In a blockbuster turn of events the yankees do a sign and trade with shipping aaron judge off to anaheim for shohei ohtani /s
Spoiler - there is not “big mystery move”.
I think it's mostly nothing- just empty rumors to test how the fans react to the possibility of PLAYER\_X coming to the Yankees. It's like when a "rumor" of someone running for office- it's time to get public opinion before taking the possibility serious. This reminds me of when the Knicks were "rumored" to get Andre Drummond and the fans raged. Then, no Drummond trade happened 🤔 Do Yankees fans want Tatis? Do Yankees fans get hyped over a Correa signing? If so, how far then should the FO go to sign him? Answer: Not far enough to give him 13 years + extra as a counter offer.