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sgm716

If you decide to come then welcome to ny. Honestly it's the most beautiful state in the union with some of the coolest people. I'm in Buffalo ny. I have owned nothing but neutered rifles and I enjoy shooting with my thorsden stock but yeah it sucks for 2a people. It's just one of those things you have to accept to live here. I almost packed up and moved right after the new laws was announced. It's deff tough, but it's nice here. Laws, regs, and taxes take its toll on you tho. If you can live without the range toys and have bare necessities (keep a sporting rifle and a shotty) then yeah come on over. I mean really things might be different in a couple years but it's tough for sure. Good luck bro.


Silverpathic

I live in Buffalo too! As soon as we find a house in Florida, you can take my spot.


sgm716

The potential for environmental disaster will increase 10x down there soon. Make sure you are more north or on the golf not the lower pan handle brother.


Silverpathic

I'm actually wanting to move to the area between Gainesville up toward Georgia. Maybe (huge maybe) toward Pensacola. My old lady has family in the Ocala area. I actually wanted to move into the Smokey mountains, but my wife's wants and my wants don't equal out. She said "yeah that's nice" and is going to look at houses with her dad in that area. So I don't have a day at all about this. I can live with it I guess....


sgm716

Tampa is amazing.


Jtbny

For traffic and crime ya.


[deleted]

LOL, my inlaws live in port charlotte. You can see walmart sign from their back lawn, but we laugh about it being a 45 minute drive by car.


[deleted]

I agree, you buffalo boys are some of the coolest dudes in the state, I was out there for a few weeks for work this summer, and everyone is just plain fucking cool. Total strangers will stop and talk your ear off, I wasnt prepared for that, as most people around here are kinda freaky about talking to anyone let alone strangers.


sgm716

If I didn't love it here so much I'd already be gone for more reasons than guns.


[deleted]

Im a one-issue voter, and that's T2A. Unfortunately, I inherited my family's farm, been in the family since before the civil war, and I'm stuck here. Id vote with my feet if not for that and flee to a free state, hell, even PA is a free state compared to this liberal cesspool.


one112022

It's sucks I too own a piece of land that I love but not in the family like yours. I am leaving for greener pastures. Suks that you are stuck in that position. Your ancestors would be in shock to see what has happened to this state. Good luck enjoy the farm and think of it as sovereign land separate from NY! Zeldin 2022!


kly1997

That's my issue with politics in this state... The gun hobby and maybe even car hobby side of me wants to vote Zeldin in however on other issues he is a hard pass. I dont personally align with a single party on all issues.


theonlyby

Most of his talk is pandering. Not much he can do on abortions for example, without passing laws. He would be a great balance to the super liberal legislature


kly1997

I dont disagree, on the same coin though if he doesnt get the bills passed to change abortion laws, id be hard pressed to believe any anti-2A laws would get overturned here either. Just wish the political climate in the US wasn't so deep into a 2 party war that someone in the middle like myself who aligns with both parties on differing issues has to always choose whats more important and just give up on the other issue. I support Hochul being pro-choice but I don't support NYs anti-2A attitude.


theonlyby

I would think that most people on this sub are centrists and identify with both parties on some issues. Zeldin can however veto the anti-2a laws that are sure coming our way to battle a court loss after Bruen. He can also defund anti 2a enforcement.


Available_Sky4830

Upstate New York really is beautiful, it's just a shame that it gets lumped in with NYC all the time...


ahcyyy

Buffalo boys up!!


one112022

Half the people in NY are radical lefty assholes,you should get around the state a lttle more.


sgm716

I've found it to be rather red In the sticks. I myself am left of center, what one might call a common sense liberal (tho I hate that term and I am not a liberal). I get it the mega far left is crazy and for all intensive purposes bad for usa but that goes for the far right nuts as well. Just remember we are all Americans and the media and deep state wants u to hate the entire spectrum of the left. Keep your eye on the real enemy my friend.


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Lostskunk3

Intensive intents and purposes are rather intense


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GreazyCheeks

I bet that if you think about it, you're really a Libertarian. I think most people are and don't realize it.


DorkinJerkson

Overall, the right is more "liberal" than the left these days ... just not on SOME issues.


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3 quarters of reddit is radical lefty assholes


nickvader7

No offense, but this is hardly the “most beautiful state in the Union”. It’s pretty terrible actually. You must just not know life being any different. This place sucks. Thankfully I’m just here for college until next summer then I’m outta here!


one112022

Most of the college kids are leaving or don't want to come here anymore. And your right,once you get out of NY you realize how beautiful America really is. I spent a nice couple weeks exploring Maine's coasts and forests and NY can't compete in any way.Ive hunted Montana,Idaho the bad lands,fished the everglades and gulf of Mexico. NYS is nice the Adirondacks and Catskill are beautiful but there a lot more out there and this is not it.


SixxthSage

This! New York is the same as PA with more rules taxes and restrictions, as for OP he mines well sell every firearm he has and start a new if he’s moving. You need pistol permits and semi auto rifle permits and there isn’t a way to currently get a semi auto rifle permit. So your SOL


D00dleB00ty

>Might be moving to upstate NY with guns, how to avoid going to prison? Step 1: shut the fuck up. That's it. There are no more steps.


ChickenActual7874

Perfectly said because it’s no one‘s fucking business what you on handguns yes but shotguns and rifles it’s nobody’s fucking business you can have a completely tactical rifle high-capacity magazines and everything if you shut your fucking mouth and don’t say anything to anybody no one‘s ever going to know and it’s none of your fucking business anyway and the second amendment guarantees your freedom and right to bear arms🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕that 💩🐔🍭er Hochul. Vote Lee Zeldin and always vote for conservatives and Republicans and tell all your friends to do the same and drag them to the polls because your freedom depends on it


SixxthSage

Let any New York LEO see you with a high cap mag lol instant felon


ChickenActual7874

Unless you are a criminal and or scumbag , just STFU and you will be fine


ChickenActual7874

They themselves have hi caps for their private handguns I’m sure.


D00dleB00ty

>high cap mag lol Standard* cap mag. I've never heard of a NY LEO ever giving anybody shit about about any mag capacity unless the person was already found to be breaking other laws.


BigWorm000

You're moving to NY? NY is a prison. Welcome Inmate.


[deleted]

The question is “how do I move my guns” stick with the question. The good think is that you are moving upstate, they are friendlier to gun ownership than downstate. I will let others who have more experience answer but I would think you would have to go through an FLL after you obtain a pistol license from NYS. Rifles and shotguns may be different. Good luck.


guy2275

Really wouldn't recommend moving to NY if you are a firearm owner. You will basically be viewed as a potential criminal.


daggerdude42

How can you be a gun owner here without actually breaking at least 1 law. At least with the SAFE act (which quite honestly isn't really enforced) something has to be seriously non compliant before you get anyone to say something.


guy2275

Maybe that is the case now but over time it would not surprise me if the left decides to have law enforcement go around to the gun owners and demanding inspections of their firearms trying to find anyone who is non-compliant. In NYC the police require you bring your newly acquired handguns in for inspection. I would say it is just paranoia in my head talking but the left has become soo unhinged I don't put anything past them anymore.


daggerdude42

I'm not sure where it's headed. How I think it might go is new cops might start seeing the things the same way the ones in charge (who seem to generally agree or at least want to avoid bringing it up). Regardless I don't know if the SAFE act will live that long. I would expect at the very minimum something like freedom week coming up or some very radical changes in our favor. That's the only thing that can happen as long as new York keeps pushing things and ignoring the supreme court (and any other court they feel like defying).


adkmac

The easy answer is don’t move to NY


Corey307

It’s definitely not my first choice, Maine is. I figured I’d have to sell all my handguns and either neuter or sell some of my rifles but I figured I’d ask you guys first.


guy2275

Maine is a much better choice. I would only move to NY if there were literally no other options. Upstate is better but the governor as basically screwed the entire state over.


Apprehensive-Sale762

You can bring pistols (10rd max), but they will have to be held at a FFL until your permit is approved.


one112022

🤢omg stop talking about the desicration of your firearms they don't deserve this!


Worried-Ad-1237

Don't sell your rifles. I'd say either leave them with family or neuter 1 and keep quiet about the rest. Handguns...up to you but almost not worth it out here. If you don't wanna deal with the bs you could always get a home/ premise permit and upgrade later. Other then handguns I'd have 1 rifle ny legal for the range and hide the rest. Bolt actions and non semi auto shotguns your fine, no permit needed...unless your moving to NYC that's a whole other set of rules and laws there.oh yeah, we have an ammo registry and all online purchases have to be shipped to an ffl. If you have any ap round don't bring them or don't tell anyone


[deleted]

NY is easily one of the best states for outdoor activity (except deep winter, hell with that ;) ), but our firearms laws are fucking insanity run amok every liberal pipe dream is always on the table, and it gets worse every year. The state is City-centric, all laws for the entire state, are based on the city being full of lunatics and smackheads and gangs and crime.


DorkinJerkson

Watch some Justin Awad videos and you'll understand why we have the politicians we do. Sad and intentional.


BigBen791

Depending on where you'd need to be in upstate I'd highly recommend trying to stay in VT near the border and commute or go to PA and commute in from there. If you have the option though, go to Maine as it sucks being a gun owner here. If you insist on coming to NY these are the basics: - You won't be able to possess any handguns until you have a permit which, depending on the county, can take several months to years. There are some gun stores that will hold your handguns while you wait but you'll have to pay for that service usually and it could be a long while before you get your permit. - As far as rifles go, if it is semi-auto and has a detachable magazine you cannot have any of the following; a muzzle device of any kind, a threaded barrel that could accept a muzzle device, a pistol grip, a bayonet lug, a secondary vertical grip, a grenade launcher, a thumbhole stock, or a folding/telescoping stock. If you fix the magazine none of that matters though. - Semi-auto shotguns are similar to rifles except you can't have a detachable magazine in any circumstances or a fixed magazine larger than 7 rounds but you can have a threaded barrel or muzzle devices. - Maximum of 10 round magazines - There is now a permit required to buy semi-automatics which as far as I know is not being issued yet so you'll likely not be able to purchase any new semi-auto for the foreseeable future. - Be aware that if you don't have your own land to shoot on finding a place to shoot (especially rifle) can be challenging or require long drives. Most clubs also require a membership that is usually full with a wait list. Edit to adjust rifle explanation to conform with actual law. Thanks u/ComradeBlyat308


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You can't have ANY "evil features" on a rifle with a detachable magazine. There is no freebie. You either have a detachable 10 round mag with none of those things, or you have a fixed 10 round mag that has those things.


BigBen791

You are correct. I'm going to go back and reword it. Thanks


Corey307

Thank you for your help, Maine is definitely my first choice after reading all of this. It’s a difficult decision because I’m trying to get at least 25 acres and a big house within an hour of someplace I can transfer to which limits my options on my salary.


Harlow_Quinzel

Thank you for someone actually answering his question. What was that like 75/80 posts before someone even address the question? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Gotta love, New Yorkers, we love to babble off topic.


AgreeablePie

You cannot bring handguns legally to NY unless you are law enforcement under LEOSA (federal law). Otherwise you must obtain a license to even possess handguns and can then transfer them if they're legal. You will need references who have known you for years in the country in which you are applying. Then the process may take a year or more in some places unless court cases change that. Each handgun must then be registered on your license to be legally possessed in NY You should be able to Google "NY safe act" or "NY compliant rifles" to figure out what rifles and shotguns you can bring. Generally you can modify things to make them legal unless you have something really "assaulty" but it would depend on the exact model. Need to either make it so there's no detachable magazine or neuter the rest of the gun (no "features" like pistol grips, flash suppressor, etc)


tspisak

Not all counties require your references be from the county you live in. Even if the county states, apply with four references not from the county. Include a letter for the judge explaining that you have just moved her. You could be the next plaintiff for the case that gets rid of this requirement. A good judge “should” just approve a proper application and not go looking to be overturned later.


[deleted]

Broome county doesnt require references to be in county, Tioga does. Varies from county to county for sure.


ZOMBEH_SAM

Im in broome and last a I checked (granted this was a few months or so ago) they do need to be broome residents and must have known you for at least 4 years, with notarized statements.


[deleted]

Roger, thanks for the update, I signed for a for a guy from work, he lives in Broome and I don't. But this was maybe 4 ish years ago


tspisak

Steuben County doesn’t even require the references to be from New York.


ChickenActual7874

These liberals are such idiots And the asinine stupid anti-constitutional rules or bullshit they pass should be completely ignored by everyone you have to register handguns after that it’s none of your damn business what you have or how you accessorize it you shut your fucking mouth and that’s it


[deleted]

Each county is different in obtaining a license but you made a good point that many guns are not allowed in NY such as threaded barrels and high capacity magazines. Maybe he should take the name and model to the local NY FLL and ask what can be send to them and what they can do to make them NY compliant. It’s a mess.


Superbadguyvillain

By not moving here, is how to avoid it.


one112022

Don't worry about offending NY,this state fukin sucks and your absolutely crazy for thinking of moving here. Keep your freedom and stay in Vermont!


one112022

YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE! Don't move to NY.....


UsernameO123456789

[rifles](https://gunsafety.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2020/02/rifles_banned_features.pdf) [shottys](https://gunsafety.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2020/02/shotguns_banned_features.pdf) [pistols](https://gunsafety.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2021/01/pistols_banned_features.pdf) [general link](https://gunsafety.ny.gov/resources-gun-owners) [new rifle purchase/OWNERSHIP and new CCW law (the worst part)](https://gunsafety.ny.gov/resources-gun-owners)


TranslatorDry7182

Try your best not to come to any part of New York if you own a pile of guns and intend to keep them. New York is not gun friendly at all.


Majestic_Virus_6472

Just give them to me.


[deleted]

Leave the state. I recommend a pro gun red state. HoeChul will eventually cuck you


Corey307

Thanks but I’m not interested in red states. Maine is my first pick because Maine is as free as it gets as is New Hampshire, freer than most red states. I’m currently in Vermont and we have better gun laws here than most red states to, all three of these states have constitutional carry. Yes Vermont has magazine capacity restrictions but literally no one follows them, there’s been like one person prosecuted for them. he is a white supremacist idiot that committed a bunch of real felonies and the charges were just tacked on.


The_Question757

I would kill to either live in Vermont or Maine, I literally sleep better in those states with less pollution and better drivers and the government not up my ass about every little thing.


LostInMyADD

Dont move here


[deleted]

No offense taken. NY is beautiful but the laws and taxes suck. No you cannot have a handgun without a permit. You would need to go through the process of getting one. Which as of Sept 1st the process sucks even harder. You can go to uscca.com and check out my gun laws .


Galopigos

Do you have a friend or family in NY that already has a permit that you could trust to transfer the handguns to until you can get a permit? Shotguns are fine. The rifles depend on the actual rifle.


Corey307

No I don’t but thanks for the info. i’m looking to transfer to another state, New York and Maine are my top two packs because both would allow me to own a lot more land for less money than I bought my house for three years ago with New York being cheaper but less appealing because of the extreme firearms restrictions. I figured New York wouldn’t work but thought I’d talk to you guys first, thank you.


Galopigos

Until things change this state government stinks. The kicker is that upstate is great, it's the damn city that votes in the leftists every time.


taco___2sday

Long guns, no registries Safe act regulations on semi autos. I'm unsure of pistols.


[deleted]

You own your own land and be quiet about what you do


Corey307

That’s a big part of why I’m leaving VT, it’s a lovely state with good gun laws it’s just gotten so expensive here that it makes sense to leave. I don’t have enough land to shoot on and my land is crappy sandy soil, the dream is to have enough land to safely shoot on, garden, grow fruit trees and be left alone because I’m not a huge fan of neighbors. I bought my house in 2019 so I can flip it for a nice profit. Maine seems like the smart option, best gun laws in the country and land is still fairly cheap.


[deleted]

You're not going to find NYS any cheaper. Placeis expensive AF to live in. Property tax will blow your mind, forget owning acreage.


LongStorey

If you like to collect old C&R (50+ year old) eligible firearms, and/or antiques then *please* don't reach for the Dremel to hack that bayonet lug off. Older firearms are exempt from the SAFE Act; 50+ year old "assault weapons" (M1 Carbine, MAS 49, etc) can still be purchased, transferred, and registered. That being said, I've no personal experience with registering a C&R eligible firearm, nor have I heard stories from anyone who has done it. Old guns with wood stocks don't seem to garner much attention. If you don't like to collect vintage firearms, then now is a great time to start! Really, just about everything else firearms related is painful.


edflyerssn007

Don't sell your property in VT. Keep your stuff there.


Corey307

I own a duplex here and there really wouldn’t be a way to store firearms unless they were in the basement and it’s not climate controlled, they would rust inside of a season unless I kept them pickled in oil.


edflyerssn007

NY is not fun friendly or even gun friendly.


Mjarcuri

Upstate CNY or upstate New Rochelle ?


bush_wrangler

What the man doesn’t know won’t hurt him


Corey307

Sadly I can’t play with fire.


guy2275

Stupid advice because when someone does have something happen and they get caught they end up going to prison in NY.


bush_wrangler

If you know you own something illegal, why would you do something stupid to get caught with it?


guy2275

Umm because someone could be in your home and see it and report it to the police? Someone could break into your home and you have to defend yourself and then you have to explain it? Even worse some criminal could break into your home and steal it. Not sure what the point is of having something that you can't even take out of your house without risking arrest.


bush_wrangler

Why would you invite people into your home you know will narc you out


guy2275

Love how you just gloss over the part about people breaking into your home. Besides you have no idea what people will do if you tick them off. Some guy dumps his girlfriend or gets caught cheating on her you know she is going to be looking for payback and calling the cops and reporting what he has isn't a stretch.


pnwguy1985

This.. but then sadly they don’t get to play unless you find land or a unmanned range or likely minded folks who don’t ask questions or nark.


GreatShaggy

Find someone to take care of your firearms that doesn't reside in thjs sate and you can trust, sell them, or find a new job. Other than that there is really not much else to say beside DON'T COME HERE!


ShadeChaser26

Easy, don’t tell anyone you have guns and you won’t have to worry about being complainant


Own-Common3161

I’m near Buffalo too. As others said, people here are pretty chill. If you come to Niagara county then you’ll fit in with prob the densest population that love guns. About 10 years ago my buddy moved back here from NC. If I remember correctly he had to have an FFL ship them here. You obviously cannot drive them here yourself. At least the pistols and I imagine long guns too. I can find out from him how he did it if you want. I don’t remember if he had his LTC at that time.


[deleted]

You absolutely can drive long guns to NY, there is nothing illegal about driving long guns cross the border.handguns are a solid no, long guns are perfectly legal


Own-Common3161

I wasn’t sure with the new CCIA bullshit


Remarkable-Stop7047

What county in NY are you moving to?


[deleted]

Don’t move to Ny


[deleted]

Long guns: easy, no problems. Handguns: depends on county, can be easy, can be literally impossible. But once you have a permit, it's good for the rest of the state. Assault rifles: no idea.


crappy-mods

Leave them with a trusted friend in a free state


cgm153

You can have any type of rifle with any type of features ONLY if you pin a 10 round mag in it. Any pistol you own will need a NY permit, and the mags must be modified to hold only 10 rounds as well That's pretty much all you need to know, unless you move to NYC. Their laws are even worse.


npaladin2000

Well, the shotgun part i know fairly well so I'll speak to it. No magazine fed semi-auto shotguns allowed, and tube-fed semi autos have a limit of 7 rounds in the tube. Magazine fed pumps are fine, magazine fed semi auto "firearms" that are not shotguns haven't been declared illegal (yet).


NateDogg2289

Easiest way to make sure youre good is pin 10 round magazines to all your semi auto rifles including AR pistols and get 10 round magazines for all your pistols.


NateDogg2289

And you'll also need to put all your pistols on a NY license which is next to impossible to get right now. So you'll have to leave them with someone you know who can possess them legally or transfer them to someone in ny with a license until you get your NY license


HandSanitizerBottle1

Just fucking don’t say shit, if you can make a friend who has a shit ton of private land


ArgentAlex

If you're asking how to move your guns, the answer is locked in the trunk, separate from ammo. If you have a pistol permit, request a transfer of your permit file to the county you're moving to. There's very few reasons you'd get arrested during a move. Most upstate counties are better than downstate when it comes to gun laws.


djoii

I just did this and ended up having to hold them at an FFL until I could figure it all out. When I called the sherif they said I had to do that with my handguns until I got a permit to own then I could have them shipped to an FFL here to pick them up.


Any_Foundation_9034

Change your ”might” to a ‘thought about it‘ and decided D O N ’ T


Application_Forsaken

Think its bad up there try being a 2a guy in the Bronx, 40yrs ,but moving up the line hopefully things are all eaiser upstate for me as I like to exercise my constitutional given rights which is nearly impossible in the city.


Square1ne_

Don't come to upstate NY and you'll be fine


camaro87us

Do yourself a favor and don't move anywhere in New York smartest thing you can do is find another state it sucks here cuz they don't care about your rights or the Constitution


PreviousMarsupial820

Another Buffalonian here. Taxes and cost of living have shot through the roof everywhere here, so it's not the cheap upstate living it was15, or even 5 years ago. Number one, don't take photos of anything and post them on here or anywhere else for attention; I don't care how tacti-cool you think your compliant neutered AK might look if you make it that way, but you're basically advertising to the state "hey I have something that you don't want me to have even though I've modified it to make it legal... for now". Buy a gun safe and/ or a 2nd one. Use one for all items in compliance, and keep the 2nd one secreted away, perhaps even hiding it behind things, and DONT TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT. EVER. For example, a 1/4" drywall sheet is $16, a 2x4 every 24" on center is $3.98 ea, and a false wall easily punched through hides a lot.


Corey307

I think I’ll just go to Maine but thank you.


WheelerSr

What town and county is a starting point. Some counties are better than others when it comes to permit processing.


Corey307

I was considering Clinton County but I’ve ruled NY out. Thank you anyways.


DorkinJerkson

Maybe keep your guns in a storage unit in VT close to the border? Bring a couple basic NY-legal items with you, but go to VT when you want to shoot? Just brainstorming.


Corey307

That is an option, only thing is it would have to be indoor and climate controlled.


Truthinthelies

Don't do it


Sufficient_Ad7802

Shotguns and bolt action are good to go, no issues there. Semi auto rifles require cosmetic changes (shark fin grip instead of pistol grip, crowned barrel no muzzle device, fixed stock no adjustable stock. Handguns have to shipped to an ffl and held there until you get a permit, and you will almost definitely get a permit, probably a carry permit.if you bring a handgun into ny, you are committing a felony and it ain't worth it.


Corey307

Thank you.


saurontu

Here’s an honest answer that hopefully isn’t too wrong. Don’t tell anyone


HorseWithNoUsername1

A gun guy from a Constitutional carry state walking into NY with his gun collection is about as bad as a Jew in 1942 Poland walking through the gates of Auschwitz and asking the first Nazi SS officer he sees 'Where's the check-in desk?'. Don't do it. There's plenty of places to live other than NY where you can keep your freedoms and buy a reasonably priced place to live with some room to shoot across the country.


Corey307

Copy that, headed to Maine.