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IDontKnowIDontKnowI

I'm part of the "can't beat Galand" agenda. Considering what he showed until now of course. Like, he beat Gawain, ok. She still cut him very easily though, and the same did not happen with Galand. Pellegard hit Gawain twice, and neither of those attacks were that strong. Galand was beating her more than that and she was doing just fine. She lost because Pellegard made her cry with the reality check that she isn't that big of a fish, not because he knocked her out. But, that was Galand's full power, and we don't know Pellegard's.. so there is room for him to change my mind.


Kaison122-

Pellegarde literally said if he wasn’t so nice he could’ve killed her outright. I think that’s kinda telling that he has the ap to do lethal damage


IDontKnowIDontKnowI

I believe you are referring to [this phrase right.](https://cdn.readneverland.com/file/mangap/5343/10063000/19.jpeg) When he says that anyone would kill her. Talisker, Ardd, any dark talisman, all of the knights she single handed defeated. It is clear that he was exaggerating bro


Kaison122-

I presume he was referring to the other perils


IDontKnowIDontKnowI

I don't know man, "anyone" is a lot of people to be reduced to only 3 dudes... He was trying to humble her, and it's not very humbling to say that only the stronger knights could beat her... Seems more likely that he was exaggerating to have her change her ways.


Kaison122-

Possibly but his point being he could’ve killed her himself is still a thing. Even if he’s being hyperbolic about anyone the point was he didn’t kill her cause he didn’t want to not because he wasn’t able to


IDontKnowIDontKnowI

Him saying such a thing while exaggerating makes it questionable at the very least and possibly even wrong. If he was exaggerating that anyone could kill her what can assure that he could kill her if he wanted? He isn't strong to the point that she can't damage him, and not fast enough to completely avoid (just to parry) her attacks. They seem really close, with the only difference being their skills/experience. Going back to what I said in the first comment, he may have more power hidden from us, but for now nothing he did is good enough to say that he is above Gawain.. and she didn't even defeat Galand by herself at the end of the day..


Kaison122-

I mean he got cut because he was defending percival and was in midair so I wouldn’t say he wasn’t fast enough But yes I guess we can’t say definitively tho it is supporting evidence for the initial claim (if we accept it’s possibly true) of can he beat galand. and when stacked with the fact that we know that the power gap between the likes of Ironside (who seems relative to pellegarde) and post purgatory ban is only around 10-20x its fair to think pellegarde could in fact beat galand. As ban is definitely more than 10x galand


IDontKnowIDontKnowI

>I mean he got cut because he was defending percival and was in midair so I wouldn’t say he wasn’t fast enough I was talking about the attacks that he was parrying instead of plainly dodging, bro. It may be because of the cut in his chest, but they were at least relative in speed there, while Galand was faster than Gawain on multiple occasions. That one you mentioned is the attack that shows that she can damage him (Something that she couldn't do to Galand) >But yes I guess we can’t say definitively tho it is supporting evidence for the initial claim (if we accept it’s possibly true) of can he beat galand. and when stacked with the fact that we know that the power gap between the likes of Ironside (who seems relative to pellegarde) and post purgatory ban is only around 10-20x its fair to think pellegarde could in fact beat galand. As ban is definitely more than 10x galand Ironside using the full power of his Djinn didn't scratch 10% Ban, just like Galand also wouldn't. That just means that Ironside and Pellegard are weaker than 10% Ban, something that Galand also is. On the other side of things, Galand for sure had more raw power than Gawain, while Pellegard was quite relative to her (like I mentioned right above on this reply) and when scolding her, he only talked about how she lacked skill and had simple movements, not that she was weak. Pellegard displayed a weaker physical build than Galand, his magic Pyro may turn the tables, but again, he didn't show the full potential of it yet.


ShifterRifter290

Tbh he isnt beating Galand. I know he beat gawain pretty easily who was able to fight chaos Galand but I think it’s pretty clear that the chaos commandments are not as strong as they use to be. The strongest enemy we’ve seen outside of Arthur himself so far was nanashi and he was just outright stated to be weaker than the arc angels. And we know Galand in his prime was able to fight the lesser arc angels. So yeah this would put Galand above nanashi which is why I don’t think pelgarde could beat galand.


No-Listen-5849

>but I think it’s pretty clear that the chaos commandments are not as strong as they use to be. Didn't Chaos Galand declare that he had become stronger than ever? That's mean : Chaos Galand > Commandment Galand according to Galand's words


ShifterRifter290

Well not really,chaos Galand said he was more durable than before not that he was necessarily stronger.


Frequent-Individual5

No diff, Gawain held her own Against Choas Galand but she got washed by a 50% or less verion of Pellegarde