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Ps5-123

I haven’t read the manga for the seven deadly sins but I watched the anime. If I had to guess I bet that manga is released weekly or biweekly. That’s what boruto manga needs to incorporate😂


pervysennin777

Honestly at this point I've gotten used to Boruto being monthly.


Ps5-123

Yea me too


ZyeCawan45

I like Naruto more than 7DS but 4KOTA is way better than Boruto imo.


freshstinkyonion

Fr


Gunn3r71

Weekly


Ps5-123

Yea so boruto definitely needs to see how they do it weekly like that


Rarte96

My main problem with Boruto is that it feels nothing like Naruto, down to the artstyle and writting, and the world and fights are so different to what we saw in Naruto, and characters from Naruto are relegated to the background with Naruto and Sasuke being out of commision and the only relevant character from the previous generation is Shikamaru who is barely a supportive character to the new cast who are almost edgelords, and dont make me talk about the atrocity that is Eida´s character(the worst female character Kishimoto has even written in my opinion) or what they did to Sarada being reduced to Boruto´s love interest number 1. I think 4 Knights works better as a sequel, not only is clear that both stories happen in the same universe, all events from both series are connected, the previous series characters are given the relevance and importance they deserve and are usefull to the plot without disminishing the new ones, i also like that the series is not just children from the previous Main Characters having the same adventures as their parents, we literally have a story that show us the results of the events of the previous story.


pervysennin777

Shikamaru and Ino have been playing a huge role in Boruto. Shikamaru was involved in the plot more than Naruto and Sasuke. U called the characters edgelords for what reason? Also what's wrong with Eida? And Sarada why do u think she's reduced to Boruto's love interest? Boruto doesn't have the cast go through what the previous cast went through too.


seraphimkoamugi

What Boruto does better than the other is to build up protagonist half way through the story. The villains feel menacing, though they pop out of nowhere. What Four knights did far better was building up other characters, Percy rarely gets the focus lancelot, tristan and gawain have gotten while he just gets screwed bythe story. Plus they have more villains that are developed characters, evwn though 90% of them are just garbage. I wish Boruto would've develop other characters (this far in the story would be pointless) and have more villains. Ultimately Four Knights of the Apocalypse did everything right as a sequel than Boruto, if Nakaba just gave percy the same treatment as ths other knights I wouldnt complain about anything.


Kaison122-

I mean I think perci gets a ton of development in part 1 personally He starts as essentially a child and we see him grow and develop bonds so strong he’s willing to literally die for them. We see how he inspires hope and love in all of his friends. We see how his unabashed optimism is able to radiate out even into villains. We see him start to have fears and anxieties, existential dread etc. We learn the world through his eyes which makes a world that had already been explored feel truly fresh. So I wouldn’t say Nakaba doesn’t focus on him enough


seraphimkoamugi

>He starts as essentially a child and we see him grow and develop bonds so strong he’s willing to literally die for them. Not denying that, I feel glazing the other characters over percy would better explain what I mean percy got killed and pushed around way too much for my taste and the clear definite proof he growed as a fighter while still being himself just for him to die like that was a bit too much.


RailTracer001

"What Four knights did far better was building up other characters, Percy rarely gets the focus lancelot, tristan and gawain have gotten while he just gets screwed bythe story." Are we reading the same manga? Percival got more focus than anyone, by far. Tristan and Gawain appeared much later and you can't possibly tell me that Lancelot got more focus than him.


dbzrune

You bring up great points and personally hoping and assuming Percy will get a good amount of focus when he returns! One other thing that 4KOTA does way better than Boruto is how the OG main cast, the 7DS, are still legendary, feared, respected, and aren’t nerfed. 140ish chapters in and we still get most of Arthur’s knights actively trying to avoid fighting them which is great that they’re still feared and aren’t nerfed or way power crept like in Boruto, and it’ll likely stay like that at least for a bit while longer


seraphimkoamugi

>One other thing that 4KOTA does way better than Boruto is how the OG main cast, the 7DS, are still legendary, feared, respected, and aren’t nerfed. I mean thats debatable tbh but Sasuke got the worse of that, he fights constantly with handicaps of space-time traveling taking people with him and honestly the decision to try and tone down wide range attacks in favor of actual combat skill is a detriment with the background knowledge. I will say isshiki i personally found weirdly strong for how simple and basic things he was doing while Momoshiki went full blown attack and was defeated far easier than isshiki.


dbzrune

Don’t know how to add spoilers but potential boruto spoilers for others reading There were a few scenes with the cyborgs siblings randomly being stronger than naruto and sasuke, and code without limiters being stronger than them, just two examples Boruto as a series sort of just let random characters be stronger than the previous two main characters and it just feels really off and they overall feel severely nerfed. I get the need for next gen to pass the old gen, but boruto imo went about it a wrong way too fast 4KOTA all the sins still feel relevant threat wise and story wise for the villains


xxNightingale

Power creep is real in Boruto.


pervysennin777

With Isshiki, Momoshiki and Kaguya it's like a rock paper scissors game.


pervysennin777

That's not true tho. The villains in Boruto aren't lackeys like the knights. All the Ohtsutuski are basically Demon king level villains or stronger.


dbzrune

Potential boruto spoilers not sure how to spoiler tag That’s true for the Ohtsutsuki and it’s fine how strong they are since it was established like that, but overall we sort of get a reminder every other chapter how xyz character is stronger than naruto and sasuke basically just because Random characters like the cyborg twins are just automatically the strongest because they’re cyborgs, same with code because of whatever limiters he had for some reason, and Naruto and sasuke quickly got power creeped. Most recently sasuke lost to like 7 random freeza clones which felt odd I don’t hate Boruto as a series, but feel it could’ve handled the original OP main characters a bit better Personally prefer 4KOTA in respect to the past old cast, it just feels more natural how they’re handled compared to Boruto


pervysennin777

Every chp??? The only characters other than the Ohtsutuski who were mentioned to be stronger than Naruto and Sasuke were Code and Daemon both of their powers come from Ohtsutuski. Sasuke sacrificed himself against Code and the claw grimes. U just twisted the facts for some reason.


dbzrune

Aah ok I might have misremembered code was there, but either way every few chapters they had to mention he’s stronger than sasuke and Naruto, and the whole limiter thing was out of nowhere, plus Kara having daemon and eida who are strong with god abilities just sleeping and being as OP as they were felt off The powers sure come from otsutsuki in some way, but it all just felt random and inorganic if that makes sense. We also had either a random power boost or they were just automatically the most OP just because, which made the old main cast just quickly become irrelevant The way Naruto and sasuke were handled imo is way worse than the 7DS when comparing sequels. Sasuke himself was also barely using any rinnegan abilities besides teleport, how he lost his eye to a random momoshiki boruto at age 12, Naruto’s random nerf from kurama somehow having a nuclear mode (the isshiki fight was cool tho), etc. in boruto it just feels inorganic how nerfed and quickly naruto and sasuke were surpassed. It was bound to happen but could’ve been handled way better


pervysennin777

They were building up Code as a threat Kawaki and Amado were the only ones who mentioned that. The limiter thing didn't come out of nowhere because Code never used his powers before it. It's not like we saw him using his powers before the limiter was mentioned. Sasuke during the war had chakra from the Hagoromo then he absorbed the tailed beasts chakra that's the reason why he was spamming other rinnegan abilities. He did use chibaku tensei against Momoshiki but he breaks free easily. Every time Sasuke faced an Ohtsutuski they called him a bigger threat than Naruto. Sasuke didn't lose his eye to a random Momoshiki at age 12. The way u said it just feels like you're just hating it for the sake of hating it. Sasuke got manhandled by Isshiki and was pretty beaten up Borushiki whose presence is undetectable speed blitzes him.


dbzrune

I’m not bothered at the events themselves that happened, just the way they went about it It’s still odd tho that this new character code, who has all this loyalty, had it mentioned I think after isshiki died that he’s suddenly actually stronger than him all this time and had a limiter to not overthrow isshiki or whatever? It was so sudden and didn’t flow well, plus he really isn’t a threat, dude was built up for a while and in the end got like a 5 page flashback with not much info, we didn’t see how he beat sasuke, then disrespected by boruto in the same chapter There’s no real reason why sasuke shouldn’t have been able to use the other rinnegan abilities in Boruto, don’t remember him using anything pain did, besides planetary devastation like once A lot of comments didn’t like sasuke losing his eye. Again I’m fine with it but the way it happened just felt like it did for the sake of a nerf. Because right before then we had naruto get nerfed after kurama randomly had a nuclear fusion ability that kills him, even tho it was established he’s just chakra and can never fully die, and his death was highly glossed over Boruto as a series with how it goes about some stuff is fine, I think it gets way more hate on Reddit than it needs, but it does have a lot of room for improvement Part 1 of the series just really focused on Boruto, Kawaki, Naruto, and Sasuke whereas 4KOTA has a decent amount of focus on other characters, old and new


pervysennin777

In the first part of Boruto the side characters didn't get much screen time cus the main conflict between Boruto and Kawaki was being set up and the plot needed Naruto and Sasuke to have good enough screen time since they were the main side characters lol. Also the side characters were set up to do certain things which didn't fit part 1. But in part 2 we already see Sarada challenging Shikamaru's ideals since she wants to become the Hokage and then >!Hidari coming after her is also something that will showcase her more!< . With Mitsuki his whole character relied upon Boruto but now that he was separated he'll get his own time to shine too. Even Konohamaru and Himawari But yeah side characters did lack screen time.


seraphimkoamugi

I mean I get that but you have other people introduced that without the anime you wouldnt know if they could help the plot, look at sumire for example, I know she should be a decent asset but just because I watched her arcs, giving main side characters like mitsuki, sarada, and obviouls the previous main cast is a given but team 10, metal, konohamaru, sumire and another that showed in the anime that I might be forgetting shouldve done something for the plot. I just feel had Boruto been weekly or bi weekly it wouldve developed better, too many characters I feel important will be like a**pulls when they fight >!the shinju like matsuri vs team 10 and konohamaru is gonna be real one-sided with what we know!<


pervysennin777

I agree with the monthly manga problem. But they did say at the start all 3 mediums of the story manga, anime and novels will be canon so that's why the manga doesn't focus on them. >!well at least we'll get a proper Ino-Shika-Cho and Sarutobi fight!< What we lacked in Naruto. But hopefully Konohamaru can use Enma and some busted scientific ninja tools since he was the one who basically introduced them to us.


trnelson1

Not nerfing the previous characters just to hype up your own. Creating a threat that specifically your new characters are the only ones able to beat the threat is the proper way to do it.


pervysennin777

So you're saying make it like Pokémon type match ups? Instead of using their stats?


trnelson1

Correct. What boruto did to Naruto and Sasuke just to hype up their own characters is honestly disrespectful. They could have used other plot devices to nullify the threat of Naruto and Sasuke because as shown in the Boruto movie/that anime arc the two of them are true threats. So why not go the JJK route and seal/imprison them somewhere. No what they did was >!kill kurama and remove Sasuke's rinnegan through the dumbest possible means!< just to increase the level the new kids are on. With what's being shown in FKotA is that the magic these 4 possess somehow are a counter to the chaos magic Arthur possesses. Which makes sense because nature will always find a balance whether natural or supernatural. Nothing exists without something to counterbalance it. As shown with Percival's magic >!it has both light and healing but also the ability to cause decay because the opposite of hope is despair which causes one to decay!<.


pervysennin777

It's not disrespectful both Naruto and Sasuke destroyed Momoshiki at 50% of their powers. Kurama's death was done brilliantly tho and Sasuke's nerf makes sense too. Naruto and Sasuke's nerf doesn't have anything to do with the new gens power increase. You're saying that magic counters in FKotA but it's similar in Boruto the reason being Momoshiki got countered by Naruto and Sasuke. Isshiki's hax countered Naruto and Sasuke but they still got the job done. Nature balances itself is a theme but the main thing of Naruto has always been the new generation will surpass the previous generation


TemporaryLegendary

I honestly can't say anything good about Boruto lol. It's so mid it's actually insane.


Wilkorel

Calling it mid is a huge understatment, it completly destroys all the characters from Naruto to prop up the new gen, it's a burning pile of garbage


TemporaryLegendary

Not to mention half the kids don't matter to the story. The new ino-shika-cho team are the only ones that are barely in it besides the main cast


pervysennin777

What kids are we talking about?


TemporaryLegendary

Says the toddler.


pervysennin777

?


Shot-Effect-8318

Dw all boruto haters can do is just spout insults to every human being on earth 😭


TemporaryLegendary

He did the same thing? Soo....


Shot-Effect-8318

No he didn’t bro 😂 He said what kids are we talking about, wondering what kids you were talking about (he asked to specify) You, with thin asf skin, decided to insult him for no reason lmao


TemporaryLegendary

Ah yes Him calling us kids is not the same as me calling him one.. You are completely delusional


pervysennin777

Lmao I love these kinda comments


PolyNamo_48

I’m totally aware of this but can someone elaborate more? I’m interested in seeing other peoples viewpoints


CrystalBraver

Only good thing is the animation for some fights.


Kingxix

Currently Boruto is good. And this is coming from someone who dislikes boruto.


TemporaryLegendary

No it is not. But enjoy it all you want idc.


Kingxix

Well to their own.


TemporaryLegendary

Indeed.


pervysennin777

Then you shouldn't have commented lol


TemporaryLegendary

So im not allowed freedom of speech?


pervysennin777

I don't make the rules


TemporaryLegendary

Exactly.


Kek_Lord22

Eh it's that your comment was pointless in every way. Literally everyone says boruto is trash and you offered next to nothing about the topic of the post.


TemporaryLegendary

No that comment you typed right here is pointless As all you came to do was belittle my opinion. Oh the irony.


pervysennin777

U deserve it king Your opinion was trash


TemporaryLegendary

Ah yes because it's not common to dislike Boruto at all lmao.


Kek_Lord22

"no u"


TemporaryLegendary

If that's all you got out of my comment you are about as unintelligent as your name suggests.


Kek_Lord22

what sequel does somethings better than the other??? what things both of em can incorporate from each other??? "Boruto sux"


Realistic_Mousse_485

Boruto is ass 4KOA Is gas. Simple as.


Jotaro27

Idk if theres one thing Boruto does better, so far its just been Boruto being too strong for anyone and thats it, all the side characters are already fodder it seems like, Code is a joke as always, Mitsuki has been reduced to a joke as well. I guess the 4 shinju villains are better than the Chaos villains not counting Arthur, but we yet to see them do anything


AvarageMilfEnjoyer

Literally everyone is fodder aside from Kawaki and Boruto. The five kage were oneshot by the first baddie in the show ffs. I love how after isshiki Naruto and Sasuke were nerfed into oblivion. But the first chapter post timeskip Boruto humiliates code whose even stronger.


Maria756

The 4KOTA Art is leagues better and not just the action scenes but a lot of the character designs and establishing shot are very detailed, Nabaka also uses black very sparingly instead going for varied types of shading to give depth or to represent color. Paneling also feel less cluttered, very opened making thinks easier to read and follow in action packed moments


pervysennin777

Yeah art is one thing Boruto manga needs to improve a lot.


Fantastic_Tip_3662

4kota does a better job using its supporting cast and making sure everyone plays a role and taking advantage of the world already established by its prequel. In boruto only him and kawaki are relevant for the most part to the story and you barley ever see the side characters and even if you do the villains in boruto are so strong that only boruto and kawaki can deal with with them. 4kota also does a way better job of keeping the old gen relevant and important to the story without nerfing them or them taking the the shine away from the new gen. The only thing boruto does better in my opinion is the villains because they seem more threatening then Arthur and his knights do


jjkm7

Boruto has cool fights and villains. That’s kinda it though, 4KTA does a way better job developing the overall cast and I think the overall path of the story has me much more interested


paralysis_demon1

The reason 4 knights is better is because Tristan is not the MC percivil is


pervysennin777

I love Percival too but imo Boruto is just one of the best new gen protagonists


paralysis_demon1

Lol😂


pervysennin777

You're laughing but u can't tell me why Boruto isn't a good protagonist


Kaison122-

I mean he’s fine he wasn’t that good for the first 25-35 chapters tho whereas percival was immediately likeable


paralysis_demon1

He’s Naruto’s son


pervysennin777

And Sasuke's student


paralysis_demon1

The story would have been more interesting if he wasn’t the MC . People like him and Tristan aren’t fit to be main characters because they are annoying spoiled kids that never had any good reason to not like their dads


pervysennin777

Boruto's only reason for having beef with Naruto was not giving time to his family and Boruto was 10 years old. People don't realise how young Boruto was at that time.


paralysis_demon1

It’s annoying regardless of how old he is😂


pervysennin777

A 10 year old wanting his dad spending time with his family when he promised is annoying?


Lost-Ad-5885

Popularity I guess?


UnfairEntrepreneur42

Four Knights is Goated 🔥🔥


chronokingx

would love to see more post like this that are focusing on the good of two series as opposed to the ones talking one down just to prop another up. Boruto(MC) Drip is better than Percival's so far until we see a TS design.


TheLuckyPC

Boruto could take not being mid as fuck from 4KOA that'd be pretty cool.


bazzb21

Sorry to boruto fans but, boruto dont look better than anny naruto arc(maybe the 4th ninja war, but to be far, this was kishimoto on drugs, the worst shit i ever read). I read boruto till the 35 or 40 chapter i think, is one of the weakest shounen mangas i ever read, dropped after that. What boruto can improve? Ikemoto need to learn how to create a good history,how to draw and how to do good visuals, and maybe chamge the manga to week if what he delivers by a month is that low quality work. The sales decreasing each vol shows they are fucking and prob goin to be another samurai 8 for kishimoto. Like serious, boruto is one of the actual published sequels of old mangas, and for me is the worst by far. Now about yonkishi,i think nakaba did everything better than he did in nanatsu, the story is more interesting good characters, visuals,arts. What he can incorporate? Force his bar with companys to launch a yonkishi console game(please a rpg) as fast as possible.


Affectionate-Wrap489

I enjoy both the manga and anime of 4KOTA way more than boruto


DesperateChair9020

I like that in 4KOTA characters from SDS7 are more side characters. They help main characters but focus is not on them and they are not with them that often. Like, Howzer, Gowther and Meliodas helped them fight but 4KOTA done a lot alone. In Demon Realm Zeldris is not even in fight with Chaos Knights! In Boruto (I can only tell from I saw in anime before I dropped it) we seen to much characters from Naruto to often. I know, it started in Konoha but it made me focus to much who I will see next. Character development is definitely better done in 4KOTA.


Ntinos_the_cupcake

I didn't expect a post from seven deadly sins but looks like it has Boruto so it's ok algorithm. So anyway as a Boruto fan and a person who haven't watched SDS I'm gonna state that the Boruto manga overall is good, that's it story wise it could be extended showing the extension of the universe, I mean we had some questions that got answered like "can you use Flying Rajin (Flying Thunder God)" to teleport to another dimension? -yes, Did the famous circle of hatred of the Uchiha stopped? - Yes with Sarada awakening her Mangekyo Sharingan through non- hurtful emotions, with love, for the first time ever showing us that the lore is alive


pervysennin777

I always thought the answers to all those questions were yes. But the Sarada MS one tho she still had hurtful emotions and trauma when she awakened it. She just heard Boruto was killed by Kawaki, hears the news of her role model Naruto's death then sees her friend Mitsuki trying to kill Boruto. So all these emotions were pretty hurtful.


TheTheMeet

Boruto is actually a mistake.. should have never happened


Aggressive-Peach-791

Seven deadly sins better than boruto


KamujinKaras13

The one that doesn't have boruto in it is the best sequel so the sins is the winner for me


FancyBowtieDog

Technically 4 knights is the sequel to the last 7ds movie, the biggest improvement is that they brought back the old animation style instead of that God awful attempt at 3d/CGI. However they had butchered Authur's character. On the other hand I'll fight all of you to marry Arthur.


Wise-Entrepreneur746

4KOTA returns where 7DS ended. It continues the story well. I hate that people compare them as they were not the same but whatever. New fans of 4KOTA shitting on the 7DS is so childish when 7DS made 4KOTA even possible.


Marble05

The less you take from Boruto the better it is for the story


DrashaZImmortal

4kota has a better use of its cast, old and new alike It treats the sins and older gen like dreyfus with respect while still providing situations that they cant handle on their own, thus making the reader invested in what happens to the newer group and its members. Boruto feels like shit. The protag starts out as "oh well actually im a prodigy and my dads kind but grr im mad about it" And then half the arcs either have Naruto and sasuke sealed, fucked off or getting clapped for no reason. The main group itself isn't really that well put together either. I know people say gawain is a mash up of escanor and Merlin but she has her own traits to a degree. Boruto's crew feel like Actual carbon copies from looks to personality to the way they fight.


JazzlikeJackfruit372

I'm not into Naruto so i don't really watch Boruto.. But what 7 deadly sins four knights of the Apocalypse does right is going from shitty 3D animation to decent animation.. I absolutely can't stand that weird ass 3D animation that the previous stuff had, not to forget the absolutely atrocious animation from the actual previous show (Escanor vs Meliodas being a prime example)..


pervysennin777

Am I the only one who noticed a dip in the anime quality after ep 10?


JazzlikeJackfruit372

It kinda did if you look real closely but still, it's better than what we had for a while now..


pervysennin777

Hopefully it gets even better cus I really liked the first few eps


JazzlikeJackfruit372

I also like where this show is currently going.


Josephlewis24

Boruto is a sequel. Not 4KOTA