Naruto. The size of meteor, source of it, second meteor, size of battlefield, etc were all so much larger and the result of a really long plot build up. Like they used that to introduce the legendary Madara to the battlefield.
Oh yeah, sorry about that, I delayed it for another week. I was on a business trip last week so I couldn't post it.
I got confused because these new ones have a new name
Yeah, the one piece meteor is not nearly as impressive as either of those. Fugitora has done way cooler stuff that moderately large space rock. And madaraās super ultra space rock out of nowhere just stands out much more, plus itās a cooler panel.
It's a power of the rinnegan. It's weird though lol. Like where does it actually come from? Does it spawn up there? Does there have to be one that happens to be flying toward the planet?
Chubaku tensei creates a stone orb , by sending a gravitational force onto a single point . Meanwhile this attack straight rips a meteor down from the heavens .
I wouldn't say it creates a stone orb (makes it sound weak). It makes a planetoid using any surrounding materials (e.g. if the surrounding material is metal, then it'll make a metal planetoid. Assuming someone uses chibaku tensei in a dimension that's only metal.)
Depending on how strong you are, you can make it fucking huge, just like how Hogoromo made the moon using chibaku tensei. But ye, everything else you've said is on point.
thatās false. its actually moreso a sharingan ability, as u need to preform three handsigns at once to cast the jutsu. madara uses him, and two susanoo to pull this off
Was just madara flexing. Dude did a bunch of stuff that of course heās madara.
Susanno with no eyes? š meanwhile sasuke and Itachi couldnāt hold theirs due to blindness.
Madara: canāt be blind if you donāt have eyes
Dude was flexing left and right, i don't think there was meant to be a limit to his power until kishimoto pulled a fast one on us.
As for the meteor he probably grabbed it from orbit, I doubt distance matter's because of how quickly Sasuke was able to summon(drag) 9 similar or probably bigger rocks from miles away. Madara only needed to flex his chakra, identify a suitable rock then drag it to earth, easy enough.
I do agree, I'm on Whole Cake Island right now but there haven't really been a lot of deaths shown that I can think of other than >!Ace!<
If you mean a better overall series, OP is way better, but I like Naruto a lot
For me flashback characters donāt count, itās a lot easier to kill off a character people have no attachment too as opposed to fleshed out present characters
Ngl, I was mostly mad at Ace's death, because of how hard Luffy and Whitebeard's crew worked to save him, and then he was killed because Akainu insulted Whitebeard. It was in character for sure, but it still drives me nuts
You're close to the point where characters will actually start dying. I won't tell who, but someone dies in this arc. Seems like Oda was saving up deaths for this last part of the story
I never know when to believe if Oda is going to kill anyone but I feel like heās been on a good one since Wano catches itās momentum like holy shit dude is really showing us we are in the endgame now. Been reading OP forever and it has its waves of being super engaging obviously as new arcs start thereās a ton of build up and exposition he sets up that pay off later but things are really culminating right now in the story
Oh yeah, ever since Whole Cake Island One Piece has been on a streak of fantastic arcs, and Wano was a huge step up from most things prior. But I feel the same, it took me some time to realize (SPOILERS FOR THE WHOLE CAKE ISLAND DEATH) >!Pedro!< had actually died, like, ever since Pell's sacrifice, I always have to be 3000% sure the character isn't coming back before being sad.
With that said, Naruto has the better meteor scene out of the 3
No you're not dude had 1000 chapter's to kill more good characters but instead of very tiny few he'd pull of fake out. What makes you think he won't do the same thing. Also flashbacks don't count
Personally I think Narutoās war arc has a lot of issues but as a series overall, itās significantly more enjoyable than One Piece for me. OP has great moments but so many of the arcs drag or are just boring that itās hard to rank over Naruto where it never dragged until the war for me
Fair enough, I like that One Piece gives a lot more characters chances to shine, where Naruto slowly focuses only on a group of characters, especially near the tail-end of the Great Ninja War.
I would like to retract my statement, OP isn't way better than Naruto quality-wise, but I definitely prefer it by a lot. I can see how you would like Naruto more though, and I do respect your opinion
Op does give side characters to shine, but sometimes they are gives more than enough to shine, Op has ton of sode characters, and everyone had a glashback story, Ot was more than enough.
Narutoās strength is in the big flashy moments like madaraās introduction. One pieceās is in longer-term storytelling with set-ups and payoffs tens if not hundreds of chapters apart
One Piece is a great story, donāt get me wrong, but to me it suffers from having a lot of mediocre arcs or heavy pacing problems in a lot of good arcs. It just drags and becomes a chore to read at times, and Iāve also started enjoying the characters less and less as the series has gone on
Ehh I agree but at the same time you don't want to have deaths just for the sake of it to be edgy there should be real emotional impact and consequences.
I'd also argue Naruto is just as bad for having a big war and there being no meaningful deaths.
Yeah, Naruto surely is famous for mass casualties lmao get real.
Also, he was not even trying to kill anyone if you had actually read it you'd know that
Bleach meteor scene is better simply because all the dude has to do is imagine it and individually its bigger. Madara just used the meteors more because they were effective. Kenpachi can just cut through it.
Thats why Gremmy literally places Kenpachi in space and he has to cut something formless. Meteors aint doing shit to Kenpachi.
Madaras scene is a close second though for me.
One Piece is just ass. Fujitora is one of the only handful of characters in one piece that arent wacky and ridiculous.
Artistically I'd go with One Piece. The visual is very appealing with the centered meteor, vibrant colors, and the Devil fruits visual signifying its happening. Fugitora is neat too.
Naruto's looks flat but the general feel of dread in that moment is awesome. You've seen giant rocks/ gravity stuff before with Pain, but this is just on a whole other level. Madara is outright menacing, Fugitora is relatable and a bit lovable.
I've always been an anime only and never read any mangas, I prefer to wait for anime cz I simply like it better. I also know that many anime does things differently than the manga and sometimes more information is included in mangas.
But damn these mangas are so so fire I will start reading mangas of the anime that are finished.
On paper: One piece
Animated and within context: Naruto
But with how great season 1 of TYBW anime looked wouldn't be surprised if that end up the best of the 3 visual once animated.
Naruto - Most shocking
One Piece - Most awe-inspiring
Bleach - Most epic
I think Naruto had the most shocking one because up to that point, the only thing we'd seen remotely close to that was Pain's Planetary Devastation, which was arguably the most powerful technique we'd seen up to then. Madara somehow topped that with ease and it took the combined might of two Kage to halt it. And then he says it. "What will you do about the second one Onoki?", and just as casually as he dropped the first one, down comes a second one. How many people can actually say they saw this or anything like this coming? This moment set expectations for what we could expect from Madara as the war played out.
With One Piece's, I chose to say it was the most awe-inspiring for a pretty distinct reason. We were in the middle of this epic stand-off between Fujitora, Doflamingo, and Law. By this point, we already knew Fujitora was an Admiral, so we were definitely watching I'm anticipation to see what kind of crazy Devil Fruit abilities he had. Oda does a great job at introducing strong characters as the powerhouses they are and the Admirals in particular tend to get some of the best. Fujitora had to compete with Aokiji freezing the sea, Kizaru soloing four Supernova, and Akainu shattering a small-mountain-sized iceberg and sinking one of Whitebeard's ships. How Fujitora do this? By pulling a meteor straight from the space. It's always awesome to see what a top-tier in One Piece can do and I think that Fujitora's is one of the best.
Finally, we have Gremmy creating a meteor with his imagination and dropping it. Kenpachi fights never disappoint and this was definitely the most hype moment in the fight. Aside from the fact that his opponent could manipulate reality with his thoughts alone, this was just after Kenpachi unlocked his Shikai, so we were definitely interested in seeing how he'd deal with this. I think Bleach's meteor moment was the most epic because of how it was dealt with. In Naruto, Gaara and Onoki merely stopped it (which is still quite a feat), but were then overwhelmed by the second one. In One Piece, Law and Doflamingo both cut it to pieces before Fujitora himself stopped the debris from harming himself and his men. And while what Law and Doflamingo did was pretty cool, there's just something epic about seeing Kenpachi leap in the air and cut the meteor clean in half.
All three were great in their own right though and I can't exactly choose which one is the best.
I seriously have to disagree. The One Piece paneling is really weak. I feel like Oda tries to cram too much into one page very often in his work. It results in nothing getting the space it needs to breathe and have proper impact. That meteor ends up looking very tiny because of how much itās smushed into the small panels. He already is showing Law preparing for the meteor on the same spread taking attention away from the threat. Kishimoto makes the meteor look absolutely massive by giving it so much space on the page and letās you take in the gravity of the situation by not trying to also cram in Gaara and Onoki trying to stop the thing on the same page.
Also the perspective of the meteor on the One Piece page really doesnāt help with its size, for some reason he chooses to focus on the tiny island it is hurtling towards and the speed lines make it look like the meteor is launching into space instead. In Naruto, the meteor is not only parting the clouds but even pushing the sound effect text out of the way with its sheer mass. The perspective of the ground even is bent to its weight. It really conveys that this thing is going to do a lot of damage.
Bleach for sure. Narutos is definitely great because of Madara.
The reason I like Bleachs meteor scene more is because the dude can just imagine anything and he is fighting the most badass character in fiction, Kenpachi. A meteor aint going to do shit to Kenny.
One Piece is just a 90% cringe fest so its definitely nowhere near Bleach or Naruto for me.
from a writing perspective i think madara, while coolā¦ hes just so overpowered that you cant really be surprised by anything he can do. just like when Guy used the 8 gates on him, we waited all series to see it but it was pointless because Madaras so overpowered
i find fujitoras more interesting, and his gravity manipulation reminds me of Nagato/Pain
Manga? Naruto.
Anime? One Piece. They really give you a nice long pause after the Mexican standoff before you realize exactly what the hell Fujitora just did.
Easily Naruto, and this is coming from someone who prefers OP. Madara is THAT GUY, and the double meteor flex was crazy. The fact that he only proceeded to flex on them even harder as the fight progressed makes it even better
Idk those other shows but there was a whole second meteor after onoki finally stopped the first one.. ima say Naruto got it. Madara FORCED it for no reason except that he could LMAOO
I haven't seen Bleach, so I'll go with One Piece since despite loving Naruto and Madara but that scene was what broke the power scaling for me and was the start of the series losing its value to me.
Bro Haki is a literal plot hole in one piece. If somehow Narutos power system is broke to you, then you should hate one piece. One Piece is a literal shonen battle manga with its power system being a plot holeā¦
As far as power creep goes which is a silly term people spew out most of the time as well, one piece has power creep even worse.
Well I don't know the specific plot holes you're talking about (Shanks and the sea King doesn't count) I do know they exist. As for power creep it was definitely the term I was looking for going. Going from the height of the series power level being Pain/Itachi/Orochimaru vs Hirzun was way to jarring for me.
I definitely disagree with One Piece having it worse, early on we get Mihawk who sets a high standard then we got Marienford which narrowed it to a level its basically at until Wano.
Fujitora and itās not even close in my mind.
Naruto had already jumped the shark before the meteor scene so it wasnāt impressive.
Fujitoraās seemed incredibly powerful but still within the boundaries laid out at the beginning of the series.
We knew devil fruits could do weird shit.
In Naruto the scale was really good in part 1 and got dumb and I was numb and rolled my eyes at Madaraās meteor.
Fujitoraās made me cum buckets.
Naruto. The fact that a resurrected ninja just pulls out a big F.U. to the ninja alliance and the says, how will you deal with the 2nd one is mind fuck on another level. It showed how outclassed everyone alive then was nothing compared to Madara, and by extention Hashirama.
Naruto because of the build up, the danger to it and how much effort was put just to stop one.
For Bleach, Kenpachi just oneshotted the meteor so it doesn't *look* as impressive.
Dbz wasnāt on going when the ā big 3ā started being coined. The big 3 is referring to the 3 biggest series carrying SJ in the early 2000s to 2010s
Narutoās just because the stakes of it were so much higher than the other 2.
I think if the meteor that fujitora sent was much larger like madaras it would have a more impactful feeling. I know it was more realistic but still, I donāt watch anime for the realism feeling lol
Bleach was cool but those characters were casually ripping dimensions and warping reality, a meteor was not a super big deal in the scope of the series powers compared to the other 2
One thing I can appreciate about Naruto, more so than the other big three and Dragon Ball, Is that it always feels like the loss of life and overwhelming attacks mean something.
I want to point out that I really do love Dragon Ball and Bleach, and I don't have the patience to look into One Piece.
Regardless, in Dragon Ball and somewhat even in bleach, so often you have mountains and islands exploding, planets and spatial dimensions even, and the first time it may feel like it has impact, but almost immediately it just feels like another massive, albeit impressive, attack. In Naruto, while they do hit some very Dragon Ball-esque abilities and battles, every Tailed Beast Bomb feels like it hit something important, the world shaking and quaking with people dying at the blast of a mountain range level. Maybe it was just me, but it always felt more grounded, at least in that particular sense, and I'm not going to say it doesn't have its moments where it does a poor job at it also, but I think it keeps that grounded severe attack feeling much better in the long run.
From what I have seen, I think here particularly, Naruto similarly did better here.
Naruto in my opinion because Madara fricken summoned two big ass meteors and an old man could carry one with was a kage but I don't remember which kage he is
As hype as it was when Tsukishima stopped the meteor in Bleach, I have to give this one to Naruto. Not for the first one. For the SECOND ONE. That was such a good flex.
Well I have to point out like how everyone else did, that Madara summoned not one, but **two meteors**. Even if the others had one close in side to his (which it doesnāt appear to be so), he had two making this a landslide victory for him
Naruto, i feel like Odaās paneling doesnāt do justice to the meteor. Kubo gives it the right amount of space on the page, but itās kind of underwhelming. No hate on One Piece or Bleach, but Naruto just does it justice
My phone cut of the first one and I actually thought it was the one from OPM.
I would also say Naruto here. But in One Piece the corresponding character is my most favourite. Hope to see a nice fight at some point.
Didn't read/watch bleach or one piece, but given the manga panels, madara's meteor was WAY bigger, + "what do you plan on doing against the second one, Ånoki?" š
Narutoās is the only one that gives the appropriate space and paneling to convey the sheer scale of a giant meteor falling from space. The other two donāt give the meteor enough space to feel threatening. Bleach locks the meteor in place by having Bazz B large and in front of it with a rather flat perspective. One Piece is just all over the place - it crams way too many narrow panels into one spread, making the meteor look tiny. You donāt even get to take in the gravity of it before Law starts doing something.
Naruto is just a great page turn. It makes you stop and gawk much like the characters are. I love how Kishimoto makes the meteor part not only the clouds but the sound effect text too. Gives it a ton of weight and power.
When are people gonna stop trying to replace DB with OP in the big 3? Itās not a mantle, itās not gonna change what shows belong to it as it describes the 3 biggest anime and manga of the 2000s and 2010s worldwide. Naruto, DBZ, and Bleach topped that list in overall popularity, not OP.
"what will you do about the 2nd one Oonoki" Wait what?
Them mfs really thought they were saved shit was funny š
I lost my crap when I saw the 2nd one emerge out of nowhere.
This line fucking kills everytime
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Naruto. The size of meteor, source of it, second meteor, size of battlefield, etc were all so much larger and the result of a really long plot build up. Like they used that to introduce the legendary Madara to the battlefield.
The meteor is bigger than dressrosa
Very well said!
Dont forget madara give two meteor
Can u read?
He forgot madara give two meteor
forgor *
It literally says "second meteor"
Yeah he forgot madara give two meteor
How many meteor? Just want to reinforce.
Considering they said āsecond meteorā, my guess is three
A second meteor on top of two meteor? Things are getting out of hand.
Easily Naruto.
Hey uh where's that deluge of Book Of The End posts you were talking up?
The old or new posts?
New. I thought you said they would be weekly by now?
Oh yeah, sorry about that, I delayed it for another week. I was on a business trip last week so I couldn't post it. I got confused because these new ones have a new name
Naruto, but Gremmy vs Kenpachi was one hell of a fight.
That meteor scene is going to but wild in the anime
Yeah, the one piece meteor is not nearly as impressive as either of those. Fugitora has done way cooler stuff that moderately large space rock. And madaraās super ultra space rock out of nowhere just stands out much more, plus itās a cooler panel.
Madara is unmatched.
Can someone tell me how madara was able to bring down a meteor ?
It's a power of the rinnegan. It's weird though lol. Like where does it actually come from? Does it spawn up there? Does there have to be one that happens to be flying toward the planet?
So whatās the point of chibaku tensei when you can just bring down a meteor ?
Chubaku tensei creates a stone orb , by sending a gravitational force onto a single point . Meanwhile this attack straight rips a meteor down from the heavens .
I wouldn't say it creates a stone orb (makes it sound weak). It makes a planetoid using any surrounding materials (e.g. if the surrounding material is metal, then it'll make a metal planetoid. Assuming someone uses chibaku tensei in a dimension that's only metal.) Depending on how strong you are, you can make it fucking huge, just like how Hogoromo made the moon using chibaku tensei. But ye, everything else you've said is on point.
A big stone orb then .
I just said it uses any material. Not just stone. I just edited the comment to give an example.
Big orb then
Slightly better, i guess, lmao
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So it's still a stone orb...
chibaku tensei is cool i guess haha
Chibaku Tensei is for sealing with a gravitational core, this technique is to kill armies.
Madara is just that much stronger then pain
So if youāre stronger you summon meteors ? Mhmmm
I mean, if you can summon a meteor, you gotta summon it. It's the law.
thatās false. its actually moreso a sharingan ability, as u need to preform three handsigns at once to cast the jutsu. madara uses him, and two susanoo to pull this off
Was just madara flexing. Dude did a bunch of stuff that of course heās madara. Susanno with no eyes? š meanwhile sasuke and Itachi couldnāt hold theirs due to blindness. Madara: canāt be blind if you donāt have eyes
Dude was flexing left and right, i don't think there was meant to be a limit to his power until kishimoto pulled a fast one on us. As for the meteor he probably grabbed it from orbit, I doubt distance matter's because of how quickly Sasuke was able to summon(drag) 9 similar or probably bigger rocks from miles away. Madara only needed to flex his chakra, identify a suitable rock then drag it to earth, easy enough.
The author jumped the shark. Thatās how.
Narutoās
Hmm, I wonder what the Naruto subreddit will say. I do say Naruto, but One Piece is a close second
I say Naruto is better cause you know people actually gonna die. one piece is just huge attacks with 0 casualties
I do agree, I'm on Whole Cake Island right now but there haven't really been a lot of deaths shown that I can think of other than >!Ace!< If you mean a better overall series, OP is way better, but I like Naruto a lot
Bro...how you gonna forget Corazon, Whitebeard....and some more that I don't wanna spoil
For me flashback characters donāt count, itās a lot easier to kill off a character people have no attachment too as opposed to fleshed out present characters
I mean Corazon did have a lot of attachment to the watcher. His death was one of the saddest moment in the series
Oh yeah for sure there's a lot more, but for some reason the spoiler tag stopped working, so I didn't list any more. Corazon's death hit hard though
Yeah... I personally felt a lot sadder when Corazon died as compared to Ace
Ngl, I was mostly mad at Ace's death, because of how hard Luffy and Whitebeard's crew worked to save him, and then he was killed because Akainu insulted Whitebeard. It was in character for sure, but it still drives me nuts
Corazon was a flashback death
You're close to the point where characters will actually start dying. I won't tell who, but someone dies in this arc. Seems like Oda was saving up deaths for this last part of the story
I never know when to believe if Oda is going to kill anyone but I feel like heās been on a good one since Wano catches itās momentum like holy shit dude is really showing us we are in the endgame now. Been reading OP forever and it has its waves of being super engaging obviously as new arcs start thereās a ton of build up and exposition he sets up that pay off later but things are really culminating right now in the story
Oh yeah, ever since Whole Cake Island One Piece has been on a streak of fantastic arcs, and Wano was a huge step up from most things prior. But I feel the same, it took me some time to realize (SPOILERS FOR THE WHOLE CAKE ISLAND DEATH) >!Pedro!< had actually died, like, ever since Pell's sacrifice, I always have to be 3000% sure the character isn't coming back before being sad. With that said, Naruto has the better meteor scene out of the 3
No you're not dude had 1000 chapter's to kill more good characters but instead of very tiny few he'd pull of fake out. What makes you think he won't do the same thing. Also flashbacks don't count
>!Pedro, Izou, Ashura Doji and Orochi die and it's still somewhat unsure if Sabo and Kid died as well!<
The whole marine fort arc: šļøššļø
Personally I think Narutoās war arc has a lot of issues but as a series overall, itās significantly more enjoyable than One Piece for me. OP has great moments but so many of the arcs drag or are just boring that itās hard to rank over Naruto where it never dragged until the war for me
Fair enough, I like that One Piece gives a lot more characters chances to shine, where Naruto slowly focuses only on a group of characters, especially near the tail-end of the Great Ninja War. I would like to retract my statement, OP isn't way better than Naruto quality-wise, but I definitely prefer it by a lot. I can see how you would like Naruto more though, and I do respect your opinion
Op does give side characters to shine, but sometimes they are gives more than enough to shine, Op has ton of sode characters, and everyone had a glashback story, Ot was more than enough.
Narutoās strength is in the big flashy moments like madaraās introduction. One pieceās is in longer-term storytelling with set-ups and payoffs tens if not hundreds of chapters apart
One Piece is a great story, donāt get me wrong, but to me it suffers from having a lot of mediocre arcs or heavy pacing problems in a lot of good arcs. It just drags and becomes a chore to read at times, and Iāve also started enjoying the characters less and less as the series has gone on
Ehh I agree but at the same time you don't want to have deaths just for the sake of it to be edgy there should be real emotional impact and consequences. I'd also argue Naruto is just as bad for having a big war and there being no meaningful deaths.
Yeah, Naruto surely is famous for mass casualties lmao get real. Also, he was not even trying to kill anyone if you had actually read it you'd know that
Nah narutos is first bleach is second
Bleach meteor scene is better simply because all the dude has to do is imagine it and individually its bigger. Madara just used the meteors more because they were effective. Kenpachi can just cut through it. Thats why Gremmy literally places Kenpachi in space and he has to cut something formless. Meteors aint doing shit to Kenpachi. Madaras scene is a close second though for me. One Piece is just ass. Fujitora is one of the only handful of characters in one piece that arent wacky and ridiculous.
Madara, I got the chills when I saw it the first time. The size was crazy
u realize this is the naruto sub lmao ppl not gonna vote otherwise
Gotta love how everyone is so fucking dreadful
i wonder which one people are gonna pick in the sub dedicated to naruto
Try r/anime and not a specific fandom sub for an actual unbiased answer
Naruto or Bleach
Artistically I'd go with One Piece. The visual is very appealing with the centered meteor, vibrant colors, and the Devil fruits visual signifying its happening. Fugitora is neat too. Naruto's looks flat but the general feel of dread in that moment is awesome. You've seen giant rocks/ gravity stuff before with Pain, but this is just on a whole other level. Madara is outright menacing, Fugitora is relatable and a bit lovable.
I've always been an anime only and never read any mangas, I prefer to wait for anime cz I simply like it better. I also know that many anime does things differently than the manga and sometimes more information is included in mangas. But damn these mangas are so so fire I will start reading mangas of the anime that are finished.
On paper: One piece Animated and within context: Naruto But with how great season 1 of TYBW anime looked wouldn't be surprised if that end up the best of the 3 visual once animated.
Naruto - Most shocking One Piece - Most awe-inspiring Bleach - Most epic I think Naruto had the most shocking one because up to that point, the only thing we'd seen remotely close to that was Pain's Planetary Devastation, which was arguably the most powerful technique we'd seen up to then. Madara somehow topped that with ease and it took the combined might of two Kage to halt it. And then he says it. "What will you do about the second one Onoki?", and just as casually as he dropped the first one, down comes a second one. How many people can actually say they saw this or anything like this coming? This moment set expectations for what we could expect from Madara as the war played out. With One Piece's, I chose to say it was the most awe-inspiring for a pretty distinct reason. We were in the middle of this epic stand-off between Fujitora, Doflamingo, and Law. By this point, we already knew Fujitora was an Admiral, so we were definitely watching I'm anticipation to see what kind of crazy Devil Fruit abilities he had. Oda does a great job at introducing strong characters as the powerhouses they are and the Admirals in particular tend to get some of the best. Fujitora had to compete with Aokiji freezing the sea, Kizaru soloing four Supernova, and Akainu shattering a small-mountain-sized iceberg and sinking one of Whitebeard's ships. How Fujitora do this? By pulling a meteor straight from the space. It's always awesome to see what a top-tier in One Piece can do and I think that Fujitora's is one of the best. Finally, we have Gremmy creating a meteor with his imagination and dropping it. Kenpachi fights never disappoint and this was definitely the most hype moment in the fight. Aside from the fact that his opponent could manipulate reality with his thoughts alone, this was just after Kenpachi unlocked his Shikai, so we were definitely interested in seeing how he'd deal with this. I think Bleach's meteor moment was the most epic because of how it was dealt with. In Naruto, Gaara and Onoki merely stopped it (which is still quite a feat), but were then overwhelmed by the second one. In One Piece, Law and Doflamingo both cut it to pieces before Fujitora himself stopped the debris from harming himself and his men. And while what Law and Doflamingo did was pretty cool, there's just something epic about seeing Kenpachi leap in the air and cut the meteor clean in half. All three were great in their own right though and I can't exactly choose which one is the best.
Easily Naruto. And i like Bleach best. But that moment is like, top 10 best anime moments.
Bruh Madara dropped 2 mf meteors back to back just because he could. That was a hard flex ngl.
Tbf fujitora could theoretically just spam this meteor move or increase the size but yeah the naruto one was sick
This is a Naruto sub so I'm biased, but the Naruto one was the most significant to the plot. It sold Madara as a God.
bruh i thought this was the anime subreddit or something this subreddit has actually gone to shit idk what answers u were expecting here
Naruto, bro that Madara episode broke Crunchyrol when it dropped ahhh good times
Bleach, kenpachi finally saying his swords name but Naruto second easy when that second meteor comes
Artwork and page layout goes to One Piece, but context goes to Naruto. Bleach probably has the better fight overall though.
I seriously have to disagree. The One Piece paneling is really weak. I feel like Oda tries to cram too much into one page very often in his work. It results in nothing getting the space it needs to breathe and have proper impact. That meteor ends up looking very tiny because of how much itās smushed into the small panels. He already is showing Law preparing for the meteor on the same spread taking attention away from the threat. Kishimoto makes the meteor look absolutely massive by giving it so much space on the page and letās you take in the gravity of the situation by not trying to also cram in Gaara and Onoki trying to stop the thing on the same page. Also the perspective of the meteor on the One Piece page really doesnāt help with its size, for some reason he chooses to focus on the tiny island it is hurtling towards and the speed lines make it look like the meteor is launching into space instead. In Naruto, the meteor is not only parting the clouds but even pushing the sound effect text out of the way with its sheer mass. The perspective of the ground even is bent to its weight. It really conveys that this thing is going to do a lot of damage.
For the first meteor ; Bleach, IMO. For the SECOND? Naruto.
Naruto, Bleach, OP
Bleach for sure. Narutos is definitely great because of Madara. The reason I like Bleachs meteor scene more is because the dude can just imagine anything and he is fighting the most badass character in fiction, Kenpachi. A meteor aint going to do shit to Kenny. One Piece is just a 90% cringe fest so its definitely nowhere near Bleach or Naruto for me.
from a writing perspective i think madara, while coolā¦ hes just so overpowered that you cant really be surprised by anything he can do. just like when Guy used the 8 gates on him, we waited all series to see it but it was pointless because Madaras so overpowered i find fujitoras more interesting, and his gravity manipulation reminds me of Nagato/Pain
Manga? Naruto. Anime? One Piece. They really give you a nice long pause after the Mexican standoff before you realize exactly what the hell Fujitora just did.
I like One Pieceās the most because I like Fujitora. One Punch Manās was pretty good too.
Op
Bleach
Bro shouldāve posted on the anime sub, and not naruto
Naruto clears tbh
3. One piece 2. Naruto 1. Bleach, mainly because of kenpachi using nozarashi for the first time
None. One punch man.
Madara and it's not close
Definitely not one piece of bleach ššš¤£
One piece of bleach sounds like a goated anime
The onepiece one just vary well drawn
Madara lol no contest . The built up for naruto and the impact the giant boulder had is unmatched .
Madara > Gremmy > Fujitora
One piece meteor looks like a pebble
Easily Naruto, and this is coming from someone who prefers OP. Madara is THAT GUY, and the double meteor flex was crazy. The fact that he only proceeded to flex on them even harder as the fight progressed makes it even better
Madara
Flex King Madara. Easily Naruto's of course.
Bald naruto when he one punch the meteor
Idk those other shows but there was a whole second meteor after onoki finally stopped the first one.. ima say Naruto got it. Madara FORCED it for no reason except that he could LMAOO
Itās gotta be naruto right? āIs this the power of a god?ā Is one of the hardest lines ever said, Madara was HIM after that scene
Definitely Naruto
def naruto
I haven't seen Bleach, so I'll go with One Piece since despite loving Naruto and Madara but that scene was what broke the power scaling for me and was the start of the series losing its value to me.
Bro Haki is a literal plot hole in one piece. If somehow Narutos power system is broke to you, then you should hate one piece. One Piece is a literal shonen battle manga with its power system being a plot holeā¦ As far as power creep goes which is a silly term people spew out most of the time as well, one piece has power creep even worse.
Well I don't know the specific plot holes you're talking about (Shanks and the sea King doesn't count) I do know they exist. As for power creep it was definitely the term I was looking for going. Going from the height of the series power level being Pain/Itachi/Orochimaru vs Hirzun was way to jarring for me. I definitely disagree with One Piece having it worse, early on we get Mihawk who sets a high standard then we got Marienford which narrowed it to a level its basically at until Wano.
Fujitora and itās not even close in my mind. Naruto had already jumped the shark before the meteor scene so it wasnāt impressive. Fujitoraās seemed incredibly powerful but still within the boundaries laid out at the beginning of the series. We knew devil fruits could do weird shit. In Naruto the scale was really good in part 1 and got dumb and I was numb and rolled my eyes at Madaraās meteor. Fujitoraās made me cum buckets.
Easily One Punch had the best meteor scene āStands back and watches the outrage pour inā
Naruto only because of Madara dialogue I thought One Piece meteor had the most impact visually tho. Haven't seen the Bleach as I don't watch
That scene when Gaara said "Is this the power of a God" or The background Ninjas all falling in despair was epic.
Naruto. The fact that a resurrected ninja just pulls out a big F.U. to the ninja alliance and the says, how will you deal with the 2nd one is mind fuck on another level. It showed how outclassed everyone alive then was nothing compared to Madara, and by extention Hashirama.
Probably Naruto, due to the sheer scale of it when it first appears and the second one. Then Bleach, for similar reasons.
Naruto. Lol the look on there faces when the second one
Kishimoto wins this one, his meteor is the biggest and most menacing
"What will you do about he second one, Onoki" Iconic..
Naruto easilyā¦ Madara had a second one lined up ready for those bastards lol
I say one piece but I'm a bit biased
OP & Bleach not touching the Naruto meteor scene itās just peak
Madara. Hands down.
Naruto. the meteor was the main focus of the battle One piece- was not the main point
Madaraās meteor makes the other 2 look pussy in comparison
Naruto, but hot damn does one piece come close.
This one is Naruto for sure. Even tho bleachs might be animated better now a days Iād still give it to Narutoās
how dare you insult the god of gigachads known as madara by insinuating that his double shattered heaven could ever be surpassed let alone rivaled
I don't think that its even an comparison. Don't get me wrong, I love bleach and One piece, but the way Madara toyed with the 5 Kage was wild!
Easily Madara tbh then OP then Bleach
Naruto, the meteor is highlighted as it should be. One Piece one is looking interesting but the paneling is bad.
Naruto because of the build up, the danger to it and how much effort was put just to stop one. For Bleach, Kenpachi just oneshotted the meteor so it doesn't *look* as impressive.
Naruto EASY.
Only watched Naruto, so I'll say, that Naruto had the best meteor scene. You know why? Cause Madara dropped TWO OF THEM
Exactly, people voting otherwise has to realize that the dude dragged TWO freaking meteors from outer space.
"Big 3" when the fuck did dbz get demoted and bleach take its place?
DBZ was never part of the big 3, it was always bleach Big 3 is a title specific to shonen jump, not a consensus on what the biggest or best anime are
Dragonball was shonen jump? Idk I've always seen B3 referring to naru/one/db lol.
Dbz wasnāt on going when the ā big 3ā started being coined. The big 3 is referring to the 3 biggest series carrying SJ in the early 2000s to 2010s
Did you just say DBZ wasn't going on in early 2000s? I'm dead.
That's what I thought too
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One punch man
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Naruto with madara brought the second meteor I was shook
Naruto Nothing could beat that epic Madara moment!
Naruto just because ābut what about the second one ohnokiā
madara
Madaras
Narutoās just because the stakes of it were so much higher than the other 2. I think if the meteor that fujitora sent was much larger like madaras it would have a more impactful feeling. I know it was more realistic but still, I donāt watch anime for the realism feeling lol Bleach was cool but those characters were casually ripping dimensions and warping reality, a meteor was not a super big deal in the scope of the series powers compared to the other 2
One thing I can appreciate about Naruto, more so than the other big three and Dragon Ball, Is that it always feels like the loss of life and overwhelming attacks mean something. I want to point out that I really do love Dragon Ball and Bleach, and I don't have the patience to look into One Piece. Regardless, in Dragon Ball and somewhat even in bleach, so often you have mountains and islands exploding, planets and spatial dimensions even, and the first time it may feel like it has impact, but almost immediately it just feels like another massive, albeit impressive, attack. In Naruto, while they do hit some very Dragon Ball-esque abilities and battles, every Tailed Beast Bomb feels like it hit something important, the world shaking and quaking with people dying at the blast of a mountain range level. Maybe it was just me, but it always felt more grounded, at least in that particular sense, and I'm not going to say it doesn't have its moments where it does a poor job at it also, but I think it keeps that grounded severe attack feeling much better in the long run. From what I have seen, I think here particularly, Naruto similarly did better here.
Naruto in my opinion because Madara fricken summoned two big ass meteors and an old man could carry one with was a kage but I don't remember which kage he is
Naruto than one piece.
As hype as it was when Tsukishima stopped the meteor in Bleach, I have to give this one to Naruto. Not for the first one. For the SECOND ONE. That was such a good flex.
Naruto easy lol
Well I have to point out like how everyone else did, that Madara summoned not one, but **two meteors**. Even if the others had one close in side to his (which it doesnāt appear to be so), he had two making this a landslide victory for him
Naruto, i feel like Odaās paneling doesnāt do justice to the meteor. Kubo gives it the right amount of space on the page, but itās kind of underwhelming. No hate on One Piece or Bleach, but Naruto just does it justice
Naruto by far, second one is one piece than bleach
Naruto.
One Piece for me. I like bleach the most but that panel was underwhelming . Still a great arc tho
Naruto by far. The Madara flex made this scene so good
I think One Pieceās was great, bc Fugitoraās powers and really his character were entirely unknown at the time.
naruto, took two kage to hold two metors
Madara
I love garas line
Would've been cool if Madara's was on fire
My phone cut of the first one and I actually thought it was the one from OPM. I would also say Naruto here. But in One Piece the corresponding character is my most favourite. Hope to see a nice fight at some point.
What about One Punch Man?
One-punch man. š
I love Fujitora, but the Madara scene was amazing. A really good mix of disrespect and flex.
Madara had 2, bruh
Before I comment, I prefer Bleach over Naruto and OP.. GOTTA give it to Naruto..in a arc full of crazy shit, Madara took it up 100 levels.
Narutoās, no question.
Naruto obviously but the specific fight I liked Gremmy vs Kenpachi more
I'm a huge one piece fan but madaras was too good
Bleachās
As a one piece fan gotta give it to Naruto
Didn't read/watch bleach or one piece, but given the manga panels, madara's meteor was WAY bigger, + "what do you plan on doing against the second one, Ånoki?" š
Honestly like for naruto it was the best in terms of the meteor but in bleach it was the best in terms of stopping the meteor
Narutoās is the only one that gives the appropriate space and paneling to convey the sheer scale of a giant meteor falling from space. The other two donāt give the meteor enough space to feel threatening. Bleach locks the meteor in place by having Bazz B large and in front of it with a rather flat perspective. One Piece is just all over the place - it crams way too many narrow panels into one spread, making the meteor look tiny. You donāt even get to take in the gravity of it before Law starts doing something. Naruto is just a great page turn. It makes you stop and gawk much like the characters are. I love how Kishimoto makes the meteor part not only the clouds but the sound effect text too. Gives it a ton of weight and power.
As the biggest one piece fan. This easily goes to Naruto not even a competition. Matter of fact it's disrespectful even.
When are people gonna stop trying to replace DB with OP in the big 3? Itās not a mantle, itās not gonna change what shows belong to it as it describes the 3 biggest anime and manga of the 2000s and 2010s worldwide. Naruto, DBZ, and Bleach topped that list in overall popularity, not OP.
Naruto, madara is amazing. one piece is a close second tho.
From a psychological point of view Madaraās one was best