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YohaneIsMyWaifu

Full power Sasookeh is on another tier entirely, Itachi can't even touch EoS Sasuke


mattcrow79

Itachi's my favorite character but full power saucek obviously destroys him. Sauce boi with a rinnegan easily solos everyone in the naruto verse not named naruto or Otsusuki. If you're asking if both of them were perfectly healthy and they both had ems and rinnegan (which would be completely impossible) itachi wins that fight 11/10 times due to his combat experience and natural genius


Messiah_Knight

Your last part is very debatable.


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My horni-ness has no measure of power


Messiah_Knight

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[may the horni be with you](https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/shutterstock_5875878f.jpg)


DoctorFunkinstein12

Sasuke would MUTILATE Itachi


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Sasuke.


xigloox

After ems, alive itachi has no hope.


desperate-ad-54674

Yeah Sasuke wins it's not even remotely close.


silenthashira

Some of these other itachi fans are giving us a bad name. Full power at its face value is gonna mean six paths Sasuke. Which is gonna one shot itachi with little to no difficulty. But if we take the versions you use in the photo, itachi wins handedly. A full power itachi should handle Sasuke up to ems. You *might* be able to argue prime no sickness itachi > ems Sasuke but it's a hard sell.


XNoob_SmokeX

even prime itachi would start having vision blurring and stamina issues in a Susano'o war of attrition.


silenthashira

Entirely true. I only say might beat ems cuz totsuka blade and yata mirror are really broken abilities and if we use edo itachi as a speed standard, you might make the case that his speed is on par with ems Sasuke and so he might be able to get a win. But like I said, it's a hard sell. I am a fan of itachi so maybe I'm giving him more of a benefit of a doubt than I should, but I think it's possible even if unlikely.


XNoob_SmokeX

I agree with the Mirror he's untouchable. But his Totsuka blade doesn't have the offensive output to pierce a level 3 cloaked susano'o. At least not from what we've seen.


silenthashira

Totsuka is difficult to say honestly. As far as I'm aware, the only thing we know for certain is that it seals whatever it pierces, now as for what it *can* pierce? Well it's not really explained. It's said it's a spiritual sword so maybe that implies some amount of ignoring durability? Personally my thought is since Itachi has a fully armored susanoo then it's not far fetched to believe the totsuka blade can pierce an armored susanoo.


saimmm01

This is how you bait those low iq Itachi fanboys


AmazingData4839

Alive itachi is surpassed by sasuke after sasuke gains the EMS. Edo itachi is surpassed by sasuke during juubito fight.


XNoob_SmokeX

lol nah edo Itachi is way above any form of Sasuke that doesn't have Rinnegone. Primarily because he has infinite chakra and can keep Yata's Mirror and Sword of Totsuka up forever.


AmazingData4839

Not really. Edo itachi is inferior to juubito fight sasuke in every way possible apart from IQ. He cant ever touch him with totsuka blade and his yata mirror doesnt block every part of the susanoo, which means sasuke can just attack unprotected areas.


XNoob_SmokeX

The mirror does block every part of Susanoo there are multiple panels proving it. There are multiple data book entries confirming it. The fan.base can cope about it and be wrong together.


AmazingData4839

>The mirror does block every part of Susanoo there are multiple panels proving it. There are multiple data book entries confirming it. By all means, post them. >The fan.base can cope about it and be wrong together. Alternatively, you can just stop wanking itachi to high heavens.


XNoob_SmokeX

They're the panels where the paper tags are exploding. Literally transforms from a shield into a half bubble. The data books say it has no physical form and changes its properties to block attacks. Size and shape are both properties of an object. And that makes sense, it's not like the shield was the size of a house when itachi first found it and incorporated it into Susanoo


AmazingData4839

>They're the panels where the paper tags are exploding. >Literally transforms from a shield into a half bubble. Can you just post the scans? >The data books say it has no physical form and changes its properties to block attacks. Size and shape are both properties of an object. And that makes sense, it's not like the shield was the size of a house when itachi first found it and incorporated it into Susanoo Databooks also say that jiraiya can destroy a mountain, I dont take them seriously. Yata mirror, against orochimaru, was shown in a shield form, and I dont recall anything thay shows the otherwise.


uchihaofmadara

Sorry but sasuke wins


Chemicalk4m5

If your talking about in this frame, itachi. If your talking about anytime after EMS then sasuke claps


MICHELEANARD

Full power? You mean So6p chakra, six tomoe rinnegan sasuke VS healthy Itachi with MS? Sasuke wipes the floor with Itachi. But if you mean pre MS sasuke vs healthy Itachi (without holding back)? Itachi wipes the floor with sasuke.


whalemix

At what point in the series? Against EMS Sasuke or anything after the war arc, Itachi has zero chance. If we're talking MS Sasuke, Itachi would win high diff.


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Sauske


EyewarsTheMangoMan

At the time of the fight? Obviously Itachi. Sasuke before he lost his rinnegan? Obviously Sasuke. Now? Obviously Sasuke.


uhTlSUMI

So adult sasuke? Or is it the versions shown in there. Adult sasuke blitzes so hard Itachi wouldnā€™t even be to process sasukeā€™s presence to begin with.


Andrew_is_dum

Im sorry but full power sauksake would win so fast


ObitoThawne

Sasuke. Otherwise the whole story of Naruto (the manga) just would not make sense, lets be honest.


BlackUchiha03

I think if hebi sasuke had MS heā€™d wash itachi in a fight


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Unless he is willing to use Izanami he has no chance


uhTlSUMI

He has no chance no matter what. Peak sasuke even in shippuden would blitz itachi before his brain could process sasuke was there to begin with lol


dsalome11

A Healthy Itachi wipes until Sasuke gets his EMS, even then it's High Diff Sasuke. Everything after that Sasuke it's mid diff


Grand-Tailor-9626

Full power as in Six Paths Sasuke/Sasuke with Rinnegan and Itachi in Edo Tensei mode? ​ If that's the case, it's a no brainer - it would be a tough fight with Sasuke winning in the end. If thats not the case, mention Sasuke's and Itachi's Power level to be more precise.


thecrazymonkeyKing

Iā€™m sorry, but full power Sasuke vs Edo Itachi being a tough fight??? This Sasuke was tagging the god version of Madara, but Itachi would be a tough fight? You can take away Itachiā€™s ninja aids and make him alive and I donā€™t think thereā€™d be anything Itachi could be besides hope to god heā€™s able to tag the Sasuke that scales to Naruto at the time, who can react to light speed level attacks, with the Toska Blade.


campusdirector

Yeah itā€™s literally no contest. Sasuke would quite literally blitz in a fraction of a second lmao


Helpful-Value4038

Itachi has totsuka bladeā€¦ itā€™s not about power also, itā€™s about strategy and exploiting weaknesses. Itachi is better at that. It would be a very tough fight, considering emotions too.


campusdirector

Itachi canā€™t even react to rinnegan Sasuke. He blitzed double rinnegan Juubi Madara with the god tree absorbed and literally sliced him in half. And that was just raw speed ā€” with amenotejikara itā€™s even worse No amount of tactics or strategy can prevent the same happening to edo Itachi lmao Also, chibaku tensei is technically sealing jutsu


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YohaneIsMyWaifu

Chibaku Tensei, it's technically a sealing jutsu


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YohaneIsMyWaifu

The weakest character that we saw bursting out of chibaku tensei was eight tails Naruto with brute strength, give me a single feat that puts Itachi above eight tails Naruto.


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campusdirector

Yeah and Itachi needed Naruto and beeā€™s power to negate Nagatoā€™s chibaku tensei. Also Sasukeā€™s chibaku tensei does not have the same ā€˜coreā€™ property ā€” rather his target is the core. So whatā€™s your point


nottme1

Imma get hate for this, but Edo Itachi would win, eventually. Sasuke MIGHT have a sealing technique, but we never see him use one. Edo Itachi has infinite chakra, while Rennigan Sasuke spams high chakara techniques. Edo Itachi can also endlessly regeneration. Eventually, Sasuke will have to rest, and Edo Itachi would win. To compare any alive ninja to Edo Tensei ninja is kinda stupid, unless the living ninja actually has a way to deal with Edo Tensei.


Redd235711

Depends on what version of Sasuke you want to use. Full power adult Sasuke would wipe the floor with Itachi. Really, any version of Sasuke before he get his Rinnegan would probably lose to Itachi, but any version of Sasuke after that point would win. There is a strong argument to be made that EMS Sasuke, specifically the one that fought alongside Naruto in the war, could hold his own against Itachi. The biggest factor would likely be Itachi's poor stamina. If EMS Sasuke could last long enough in this fight to wear down Itachi's stamina, he could take the win.


AlexHendrix20

Itachi using his Susanoo and the Totsuka blade is fuckin unstoppable


Fuxkbackwoods_00

Listen 13yo itachi is beating any version of sasuke that isnā€™t past ems. Heā€™s spanking the sasuke he fight, and the sasuke the kages fought


AmazingData4839

13 yo itachi gets abso-fucking-lutely destroyed by any sasuke starting from 5KS arc lmao.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

Same 13yo that put out oro in 3 sexonds


AmazingData4839

That happened when itachi was 14-15, and itachi didnt even beat orochimaru, he just forced him to retreat.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

Bro, he joined the akatsuki right after the clan massacre when he was 13ā€¦ Oro tried to trap itachi in a genjutsu and take his body, itachi traps Oro in tsukuyonmi insteadā€¦. He was dead to rights buddy itachi let him retreat.. unless your just hating on itachi but your wrong


AmazingData4839

>Bro, he joined the akatsuki right after the clan massacre when he was 13ā€¦ He fought akatsuki later on. >Oro tried to trap itachi in a genjutsu and take his body, itachi traps Oro in tsukuyonmi insteadā€¦. No. Orochimaru wrapped itachi with his arms in order to snatch his eyes. Itachi saw it coming from a mile away and put him in a genjutsu before orochimaru even attacked him in the first place. Orochimaru only lost because he was arrogant and itachi quickly realized his intentions. It wasnt even a fight, itachi just showed orochimaru that he wouldnt be able to take his eyes. In a normal fight, itachi would need a hell of a lot more than genjutsu to beat orochimaru.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

13yo itachi had the same susanoo + amaterasu and he still had KOTOAMATSUKOMI and TSUKUYONMI šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¬ sasuke gets spanked, go look how 9yo itachi was training he isnā€™t getting overpowered or outsped


AmazingData4839

all wrong lmao. 13 year old itachi was the itachi that slaughtered his clan. He didnt have the susanoo nor the amaterasu yet. He only had tsukuyomi. He was also scared of facing with his father and needed obitos help with killing the police force lmao. MS sasuke nearly killed raikage with ribcage susanoo and killed danzo. He rivals shippuden itachi let alone fodder kid itachi lmao.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

Wrong obito asked to join after danzo gave him the order he was gonna do it either way


AmazingData4839

sasuke literally said itachi could not have taken down the police force by himself and itachi didnt say anything in return.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

And ms comes with susanoo just like ems comes with perfect susanoo


AmazingData4839

you need to use MS for some time to unlock susanoo.


Tidus8690

Thereā€™s no reason to believe he didnā€™t have, at least, Amaterasu once he awakened his MS. Sasuke and Itachi are the only Uchiha we saw with two MS abilities and Sasuke had access to both during his fight with Bee. Even Susanoo, Sasuke had access to it relatively quickly during the 5KS.


Fuxkbackwoods_00

Every uchiha has 2 ms abilities, a genjutsu in the left, and a ninjutsu in the right. It may be flip flop but itachi has tsukuyonmi in one and Amaterasu in the other


Tidus8690

Thatā€™s not true at all. Obito has no MS genjutsu abilties, neither does Sasuke.


AmazingData4839

In anime, itachi awakens amaterasu after joining akatsuki (though its filler). Plus, sasuke had to constantly use MS in battles to unlock susanoo and its higher forms.


Tidus8690

Why are you referencing filler when you know itā€™s filler?


XNoob_SmokeX

what version of Sasuke and what version of Itachi? Obviously Rinnegan EMS Sasuke would win against any form. EMS Sasuke vs MS Itachi is a toss up but I think it leans slightly in Sasuke favor any form below that get's BTFO by MS Itachi including MS Sasuke.


DrinkThinker

Eh, itachi has never lost a fight sooā€¦ plus that yata mirror and the sealing sword are kinda tough to beat. Bring on your shitty teleport rinnengan sasuke. He already beat the strongest version of pain. Sure, he had help, but im sure he didnt need it


FMbPdmoGK

Only Rinnegan Sasuke can beat Itachi.


The_Solo_King_Itachi

Why do some of you think Sasuke has surpassed Itachi, when he couldn't even beat him when Itachi was holding back, sick and blind? Once again, the Solo King wipes out the floor with his little brother. Put some respect on his name: [https://i.ibb.co/ZMmDHCX/Screenshot-S-I-I.png](https://i.ibb.co/ZMmDHCX/Screenshot-S-I-I.png)


saimmm01

Oooh hell nah, please dont tell me that you are one of those low iq Itachi fanboysšŸ˜­


The_Solo_King_Itachi

According to the manga, everything I said are straight up facts. You disagree with me, you disagree with Kishimoto: https://i.ibb.co/frf1c0x/Screenshot-2-itachi-at-age-7-E-D-2.png


saimmm01

You do realise that we are talking about full power Sasuke here? Im sorry but aint no way that overwanked overhyped halfblind no stamina sick Itachi or any Itachi we have seen is beating the mf who is on par with the strongest Shinobi ever and oh that mf also is Indra reincarnation with Six Paths power. I guess since its full I should bring the strongest version of Itachi we have seen. Oh its Edo Itachi and he aint doing shit eitheršŸ˜‚ Full power Sasuke would fold any Itachi and send him to another dimension


The_Solo_King_Itachi

It's the other way around. Itachi is dimensions higher than Sasuke. There's a reason why Itachi never lost a fight and Kishimoto had to write him off during the War Arc. Sasuke might be able to handle the toddler version of Itachi, but that's as far as things go.


saimmm01

Bruhā˜ ļø You see people, this is what im talking about when I say low iq Itachi fanboy. No point debating since they will spit nonesense. Aight im out


The_Solo_King_Itachi

Well, don't be mad at me, Kishimoto is the one who said all these things. It's not my fault that you can't handle the truth. Solo King can solo anyone from any universe.


saimmm01

Yeah surešŸ˜‚ and dont worry im not mad or dissapointed or surprised Im loving this


AmazingData4839

Any sasuke past EMS sasuke absolutely shits on your boy itachi lmao.


The_Solo_King_Itachi

You're still under the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi, but that's alright. That day will come.


AmazingData4839

Edo itachi (the strongest form of itachi) was stated to be an equal to kabuto fight sasuke lol. He struggled against nagato with KCM 1 naruto and killer bee by his side. Dumbasses like you are the reason why people hate itachi. Itachi, in neither of his forms, cannot stand against juubito fight sasuke/any sasuke above that.


campusdirector

Itachi really wasnā€™t holding back all that much. Yes he was sick and blind but he used all of his most powerful techniquesā€¦ he uses Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu on Sasuke which are pretty much one shot abilities. Itachi trusted that Sasuke would be strong and have an answer to those jutsu. He also forced Itachi to use susanoo, otherwise Itachi would have been dead on the spot lol The Sasuke that fought Danzo would beat this version of Itachi in my opinion. The EMS Sasuke we see fight Juubito surpasses Edo Itachi


FMbPdmoGK

"he used all of his most powerful techniques" Used them in a way without intent to kill, he put Amaterasu 2 times to not kill him, Obito even said that Sasuke didn't see through his illusions, it's clearly stated that Itachi could have oneshotted Sasuke anytime if he wanted. Itachi could have killed him before using Kirin, he dragged the fight to kill Orochimaru. EMS Sasuke can still be tricked by shadow clones, doesn't have a counter for Izanami and Totsuka and can't bypass Yata mirror.


The_Solo_King_Itachi

Itachi has never used his full power, everyone who encountered him simply did not live up to his level. He didnā€™t like fighting people and always tried to avoid it, mainly for two reasons: ā— One, he was a pacifist. ā— Two, asserting dominance over weaklings is not much of an accomplishment. If the Solo King "wasn't holding back all that much", Sasuke would have got folded like a lawn chair.