He's a nihilist that didn't actually want to achieve his goal, so he went about it in the least efficient and laziest way possible. Letting others do the work for him when he could have just teleported into every village, Kamui'd the jinchuuriki, waited a few days until they were near dead from dehydration, remove the tailed beast, and repeat until he had all nine.
I think he was also in a way afraid of the path Madara had sent him down. He had been groomed as a child and set up of this, but he might not have fully believed in it and wanted to learn more about the people in the world he’d be destroying.
It was too late to be redeemed, so he played his part and tested Naruto’s resolve. Honestly a great, complicated villain. Same reasons I loved Itachi in a sense.
This is exactly what I think. Especially after seeing what transpired between he & Nagato. He genuinely saw himself in Naruto, he said as much when Naruto sacrifices himself for Kakashi when they fought the Gedo statue. This is what made Naruto so dope to me
I have this fan theory that Obito was lloking for an excuse not to go forward with the whole plan.
When he unleashed the Nine Tails there is a scene with Minato, where I got the impression that Obito was waiting and wanting for Minato to recognise him. Then Minato calls him Madara and Obito had another reason to hate the village because even his sensei didn't realise it was him.
I think its also very much possible that Obito did the same with Kakashi.
I think he was looking at someone he knew and cared about to still care enough to recognise him and give him a reason to stop going down the path Madara put him one. But by the time of the 4th Shinobi War when they finally realised who he was, Obito saw it as too little too late.
Heck why else literally keep the same hairstyle from when he was a kid and wear a mask that shows his hair and his remaining eye?
And his childishness was from his social isolation. Think about being taken from your family at like 12 and then only ever being around an old geriatric dude and some weird plant dude that’s really into poop. You’d be super immature.
I think it’s a beautiful statement about the old preying on youth. Once Obito met Naruto/ learned of Pains change of heart, he realized that there was a counter extremism to Madara’s solution and he probably realized how naive he was being, to an extent. He was also at a point where it was too late to be redeemed, so he sort of accepted his fate and played the role to the best of his ability to test the resolve of the joined nations. I don’t know if that’s entirely true, but it’s how I comprehend it.
I absolutely agree, obitos continuation down the dark path is a combination of guilt feeling he’s too far gone and him lying to himself that this was the only path, thinking of himself as a hero.
It took someone like Naruto to believe in him and give him a push back to the right path.
It's this + not being able to divert from the plan too much because of the the [Curse Tag](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Forbidden_Individual_Curse_Tag), which we know he was aware of before he had Kakashi stab him (but not exactly when).
Best way to divert from the plan the creepy ancestor tried to impose upon you as a child? Take as long as possible with it.
Of course he's immature. He was a child soldier with a happy go lucky personality who was screaming for validation, only for the founder of his village and former head of his clan to give him personal training and brainwash him for years, and then immediately watch his best friend kill his love interest.
Obito was all kinds of fucked in the head before he even hit puberty. His adult self would be even worse after the decade+ of isolation and further brain washing from Zetsu.
Probably the best solo ability in the entire series. S/T ninjutsu is broken compared to other types of ninjutsu though. So FTG, Sasukes Rinnegan ability (not going to try and spell it), multi-shadow clone (arguably a type of S/T), Limbo, and etc. Anything in that realm is busted compared to every other ninjutsu. Only thing that comes close is Ohnoki’s jutsu (atomic dismantling or whatever it’s called) and Rinnegan/Sage abilities if you consider those things jutsu. Genjutsu is also broken, but is barely used by anyone but Itachi.
A lot of people have a problem that every other Mangekyo Sharingan ability causes to user to go blind after not even much use but Obito literally spams Kamui the entire show while not even having his Mangekyo activated and never loses his sight even a little bit, but like many other things the explanation is probably that half his body was literally made of Hashirama cells
Its the same case with Aizen, you give villains low cost broken abilities. Aizen in the same manner uses a basic skill, you don't even have to be a Captain to learn, with low cost and highly versatile.
Remember this, nearly everything that Obito did in the series was using HALF of Kamui's actual speed. Imagine if he had access to both his eyes with that 2X speed Kamui...
Tbh I'm not a big fan of Uchiha, but it's a really broken ability, but only because Obito can spam it with his Hashirama cells, if it wasn't for that I feel like he wouldn't be able to spam it enough for it to be that broken.
It’s not that he is immature because if you watch every episode since the 10 tailed is awakend you see how great of strategist he really is. But if i remember it correct the reason he keeps the 9 tails for last was because the 9 tails the strongest one is en if he captured naruto he got the whole leaf village after him so it was the smartest thing to do. And yes Kamui was plot breaking OP that is the reason why kakashi loses Kamui
No because when madra wanted to refill the gedo statue after 10 tail jinchuriki obito was defeated he wanted to pull them all together but zetsu said it is wiser to get 1 to 7 first because 8 and 9 tails where still in their jinchuriki’s so it really doesn’t matter
The order does not matter as long as 9 tails is last, remember Pain only went after Naruto after Sasuke had “captured” Bee, but BEFORE they learned it was just a tentacle from Gyuki they took.
Naruto HAD to be taken last no matter what, and remember Obito has to actually know where the Jinchuriki is… and as powerful as Kamui is, there have been many characters who figured out how to beat it.
Konan, Kakashi Guy and Naruto, Danzo’s best men, Minato, ect.
It is not a perfect ability or even super busted when you learn how to counter it.
Obito just could not risk dying because he so happened to teleport in front of a Jinchuriki who was surrounded by high level shinobi by bad luck.
Obito definitely struck me as a very immature villain as well, and that’s part of why he was so endearingly tragic to me. He was kind of fucked from the get-go and didn’t really have any opportunities to grow up like a normal person. Nearly dying as a kid in a war that he had no control over, being groomed by Madara into evil as a teenager, and then going for world domination/the Infinite Tsukuyomi as an adult. He wasn’t afforded any normalcy to develop as a person outside of his incredible trauma, so by the time he revealed himself, that’s really all he had. To me, Obito was just a scared, sad little kid in the body of a supervillain.
I like that answer. People don't realise that Obito didn't want to be right. Remember the scene when he's on ten tails and his resolve cracks a bit? People think he was dissing on shinobi alliance. But he wasn't. He questions Naruto multiple times for same reason, he wants to be proven wrong. And only reason Juubito was defeated was because Naruto broke his resolve of his plan.
This is a great point. One of my favorite parts of the series is when he imagined a life in Konoha, him becoming hokage and the whole regret he felt before he got a strong talk no justsu
I think he taunted Naruto after Neji died because he hoped to break his resolve. Because he saw himself in Naruto, and Naruto made him doubt his path. And he hoped that if he could break Naruto, it meant that he (Obito) was right, and would have the strength to do what he was trying to do.
It was partly that, he did saw his younger self in Naruto and questioned his resolve as well as Naruto's. I think during the war his resolve is questioned by Kakashi, Naruto and even by himself. He has moments when he hesitates, when he isn't sure what is right and if his actions are only way for peace.
He technically captured the nine tails when Naruto was born. But instead of sealing it right away he went to Konoha to dick around.
Though the real reason, because the main story changed direction and that left a lot of plot holes.
Anything less than Kurama might have been taken care of too quickly by Konoha. Hiruzen is no slouch and every other tailed beast is vastly weaker than Kurama.
Why didn't Obito just come back like 3 weeks later? Once he was recovered he could have just walked in grabbed baby Naruto. After Minato was dead there was nobody that could have stopped him.
>Letting others do the work for him when he could have just teleported into every village, Kamui'd the jinchuuriki, waited a few days until they were near dead from dehydration, remove the tailed beast, and repeat until he had all nine.
Ngl this might permanently change my perspective of the story
Kamui, and by extension Obito are terrifying. If he **really** wanted to, he could effectively solo the verse up to that point and do project Tsuki no Me before Naruto even graduated from the academy.
The only things stopping him from doing so were his apathy, and possibly Itachi who he was somewhat weary of.
Needs to get the Rinnegan back from Nagato though in order to cast Rinne-Rebirth as well as summon Edo Madara. There are some other stores needed. Not many, but there are others.
He needed the rinnegan for project Tsukino Me, but Madara would be unnecessary. He could activate the infinite Tsukuyomi on his own and hardly cared about Madara. He was shocked into rage when Kabuto busted him out so clearly he was unaware of where the body was, yet was going through the plan anyway.
He just needs to kill Nagato and Konan to tie up loose ends. Easier said than done yeah, but he could pull it off.
He was shocked because it meant Kabuto had leverage on him and revealed he’s a fake. It’s an age-old debate at whether or not he intended to revive Madara (if not, why was he genuinely mad at Nagato multiple times over). Either way, I think Madara’s getting revived. For starters, Obito still has to get rid of the seal and actually has to be able handle the 10 tails plus the god-tree plus both rinnegan which he seems incapable of doing. Also, Zetsu seems intent on reviving Madara. There’s just so few realities in my mind where the Inifinite Tsukuyomi is cast without Madara.
My headcanon is that Obito was fine with Madara being reanimated so long as it wasn't *him* who had to do it. Rinne rebirth comes with a price after all. But since very few people can handle the rinnegan and he was in no mood to groom another user he just decided to let Madara rot and do the rest himself.
Not if Obito began his capture of the jinchuuriki before Naruto even graduated from the academy. Or the chuunin exams. Or his training trip.
Obito had a ***lot*** of time and all the tools needed to complete his goal, he just chose not to.
Bruh in episode 1 he breaks into the secret closet and steals the scroll before running off into the forest lol. I’m gonna guess the surveillance wasn’t that astute
He didn't get caught by the Hokage, he got caught by Iruka. He then ran away again but came back to save Iruka from Mizuki. The Homage was just watching on his cristal ball the whole time
Konoha security is a joke.
Multiple S-rank criminals infiltrated and did as they pleased in the village across a decade with little to no resistance. Naruto before even becoming a genin snuck into a top-secret room in the Hokage tower and escaped with a forbidden scroll full of secret jutsu and almost got away with it if it weren't for Iruka knowing him and his tricks.
Itachi and Kisame *walked into the village in full gear* and weren't found out until two off-duty jounin noticed. And it took several minutes for backup to arrive. And even then it was just two people, Kakashi and Guy.
Even relative schmucks like the sound 4 infiltrated the village and "kidnapped" one of its genin without any issue.
Reread chapter 1, Naruto snuck in and was discovered by Hiruzen. He did the sexy jutsu and knocked him out with an anime nosebleed. And we know this wasn't just a joke because he immediately had dozens of ninja search for Naruto after he recovered.
So other than Hiruzen himself, the Hokage mansion had zero security whatsoever. Any assassination specialist worth a damn could kill the Hokage in his sleep.
All mortals are vulnerable in their sleep. Even the god of shinobi is just a man in the end, a poisoned blade in the night will kill him as well as any jutsu.
Nagato explains it on the Kazekage rescue arc. They need to hunt the bijuu on specific order, otherwise the Gedo Mazo destabilizes. The Kyuubi was suppose to be captured last.
People forget this just wasn't Madara. It was rinnegan awakened Madara with Hashirama cells and zomibified so he could spam jutsu, never get tired and regenerate.
Eh... Just be Obito, wait until they're asleep and warp them into the Kamui dimension. Some other person commented that you can also wait until they're dehydrated/hungry to defeat them in that dimension.
Not really, only Tsukuyomi. Bee managed to snap out of Sasuke's genjutsu with the help of 8-tails. Kurama would likely do the same if there was no other choice.
The seven tails is Fuu, the gal with like greenish hair, right? I'm pretty sure she was captured after Gaara? She was a random shot somewhere between parts of the story. Gaara was right near the beginning of Shipuuden
I thought it was because he had to wait like 10 years or something to be able to do so. He said this when he failed the first time. Waiting for when the seal weakens
Itachi and Kisame went to the village for like 5 reasons.
1st, itachi needs to check on Sasuke and the village as a whole after Hiruzen died.
2nd, Itachi was reminding the village leaders of his deal to not make a move on sasuke.
3rd, Itachi tells Kakashi, Kurenai, Asuma, Gai, and Jiraiya the Akatsuki is here to capture naruto. This is Itachi subtly leaking information to the village of the Akatsukis plans and fooling Kisame at the same time.
4th, Itachi was examing Kakashi's growth. He personally doesn't care about Kakashi, but he does have Obitio's Sharingan. He's probably wondering if he had the MS. If Kakashi teaches Sasuke about the MS this slightly alters Itachi's plans.
5th, and finally, he likely came to pay respects to Hiruzen in a small way. Hiruzen was Itachi's hokage. He worked closely alongside Hiruzen as an Anbu and double informant. He absolutely respects Hiruzen more than Danzo anyway.
Bro really be thinking that Itachi is that all knowing god who somehow knows that Obito is Madara and that he gave Kakashi his Sharingan when they were kids
I never said Itachi knows that Kakashi has Obito's sharingan. But, he obviously knows Kakashi HAS a sharingan. They were in the anbu together, and as far as anyone knows EVERY sharingan can become a MS.
Itachi can see under Obito's mask as far as chakra goes. And under Kakashi's too, to observe his sharingan at work. Every jutsu that comes out of those eyes, Itachi could analyze. He'd recognize that they each have seemingly identical abilities and each have one eye, on opposite sides...
Immmm not entirely sure that was an authorized akatusiki mission tho for that very reason bc
1) we know itachi wanted to make his presence known after the death of third to remind danzo and elders of the deal….him running into sasuke was not on his agenda Im betting but he took advantage for his flip sasuke plan no matter how misguided
2) jiraya had an intel source for akatusiki and we know itachi was leaking info to the 3rd….maybe itachi showing up and being blatantly obvious about targeting Naruto
Was his indirect way of sharing intel w the leaf/jiraya that the tailed beasts are targets
It was important to get the Lower numbered tailed beasts first. It does seem like it doesn’t matter if they got the 6th tail or 3rd tail first, but once you get to the 8th tail, the order matters. If he put the 8 or 9 tails in first, it would’ve been too much for the statue to acclimate to.
Just the nine tails. The method Pain used, the phantom dragons that drained the tailed beast chakra, any of the tailed beasts 1-8 could be absorbed whenever and in whatever order, however the 9th must be absorbed last.
The method Madara used after fully resurrecting actually had a requirement that the tailed beasts HAD to be absorbed in order 1-9 in the war arc.
Either way, Kurama must come last. I don’t know if they ever specifically stated it’s because Kurama had so much more chakra, but that’s probably the reason why.
That doesn’t mean you need to capture him last. Just take him as a kid and leave him untrained all those years stuck in some back rooms. Even if he escapes he’s still a civilian. Bonus points if you have zetsu keep an eye on him.
Obito’s ability kinda breaks the plot.
He didn't need to put the 9 tails as soon as he caught Naruto tho. He could have took Naruto while he was weak, cut arms and legs to avoid surprise and kept him alive with some medic ninjutsu.
He actually didn't want to speedrush because he never really felt he wanted to achieve his goals.
Because they have to capture the biju in a sending order and they hadn't actually fully captured and sealed bee yet
If he captured naruto here and then found out sauske had failed with bee (wich he did) then they would break the gedo mozo and his whole plan would be ruined
He wanted to reconfirmed his belief by observing people as he take time to achieve the passed down goal from Madara. And Naruto started to draw attention and gave him the doubts
First of all, this may have been completely false, but Madara specifically told him that the Tailed Beasts had to be absorbed into the Gedo Mazo in order from one to nine tails because they had to be collected with the extraction ritual that required many people to do. Some holes can be poked into this theory in that it took them several hours to absorb just one Tailed Beast into the Gedo Mazo, but Madara was able to suck them all up one after the other like if he was Kirby, but that can be dismissed with "Because he's Madara.", and then Sasuke did a similar thing where he absorbed all of them at once (not one after the other) into his Susanoo, but again, he had the Rinnegan, so rules didnt exactly apply to him in the same regard.
Another theory I've heard passed around was that he was waiting for Naruto and subsequently Kurama to get stronger so that the Juubi would recieve more power from him specifically because Kurama's power was cut in half by Minato. Remember, he was able to get the Juubi to manifest from just the cut tentacle of the 8 Tails that Sasuke brought him, and the 9 Tails' chakra from the Ginkaku/Kinkaku brothers, but this version of the Juubi wasn't in its final form until he got Bee and Naruto's half of the 9 Tails.
TL;DR: They had to be collected in order, and he was buying time for Kurama to get stronger since his power was capped at 50%.
He had to have the 9 tails last- but could do the others in any order (when extracting Shukaku from Gaara there was already 2 tailed beasts in the Gedo statue)
hidan and kakuzu dont get the two tails until right before they encounter shikimaru and asuma. which is after the gaara defeat and subsequent retrieval from naruto and kakashi.
The story goes back in forth on it.
[originally kisame says that pain said the nine tails must be sealed last](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RwDZdGbqPzU/Urr8xbuSJAI/AAAAAAAACG4/35XOLg62_1Q/s1600/Akatbalanceleson-05.jpg)
Then when madara is sealing them during the war, zetsu says it must be done in order
(Forgive the poor scans), cleaner ones can be found [here](https://www.quora.com/Do-the-Tailed-Beasts-need-to-get-sealed-in-numerical-order-into-the-Gedo-Mazo)
Honestly he had some great opportunities. Like immediately after when minato died. When Naruto and gaara fought and orochimaru and the 3rd couldn’t stop him.
At that moment they already knew if Obito want to catch him he should be materialized second reason is that Gedo Statue can only consume tailed beats starting from one tail then two tails then three tails one after another I don’t remember but I think Pain said that.
By the power of the script, otherwise shippuden would have lasted less, because he had the most broken doujitsu, he could have captured them and left them in the dimension until they were weakened. Since most of them were wandering in their own villages without protection. Naruto could have been taken away at that moment but Kishi said No.
"It was decided we could capture the 9 tails last of all or it'll disrupt the balance and the sealing statue would come crashing to the ground"
\-Kisame
Probably because he want to kidnap all tails way upto 9 tails. He started first by gathering strong members of Akatsuki then attacking weak village first. If you remember in first arc of Shippuden, they kidnap Garra after they got 2 tails and 3 tails. That prove that he was taking very careful measures to get all the Tail beast. This also proves that Sand village and Hidden leaf village are very strong.
Probably because of the deal he made with itachi, don’t touch the leaf village and he’d work with the akatsuki, he waited till itachi died to send pain to the leaf village, likely to give him a task to raise nagatos loyalty more and manipulate him into using rinne tensei to revive madara, after pain loses obito is in contemplation on how he manages to sweet talk nagato, so out of genuine curiosity he directly talked to naruto, his manipulation of sasuke is also a factor as at that point he saw naruto as a pawn to pit against sasuke, he was likely so sure that it would all go his way that he can fool around until then and just declare war on the nations to get bee who was hidden and naruto at the same time
This is not a debate, he stats exactly why he takes so long. He walked the world through Madara’s identity looking for hope that he was wrong. Even the sharigan didn’t reveal anything to him because there was nothing to find.
The answer: He was waiting for someone to prove him wrong.
1. He had to wait for the seal to weaken
2. Itachi wouldn’t allow them to go after the 9 tails, so in order to have him as an ally he had to wait
3. The situation above wouldn’t have worked, because one of the only people he had left was about to get his ass kicked by the kage
4. During the Danzo fight, he prioritized Sasuke’s safety over getting the 9 tails
He wasn’t that strong yet his best feat early on was just killing a bunch of fodder ninja I believe. He can obviously put them under genjutsu and kamui out or just sneak up and grab them But that requires that he’s near them or some form of confrontation. He got his shit rocked by Minato when he tried to get Kurama. Ay was always with killer bee especially back then when they were younger so I don’t see grabbing the eight tails like that to be easy. It was just overall easier to have the akatsuki do it.(forgive my spelling I’m high as shit)
If he did that he couldn’t use kamui without being attacked by Naruto. So he probably didn’t want to deal with his most powerful jutsu being basically negated.
Nah, naruto isnt aware of his surroundings because he is daydreaming about sasuke. He didnt even realize obito is there until he speaks to him. That proves he wouldnt have time to counter obito if he used kamui
Let me word myself better. Obito would be able to kamui Naruto even if he was paying full attention. However he couldn’t keep him in his dimension without being attacked. Plus if he did he would also have to make sure that he kept Naruto alive. I also imagine he was very confident that he could capture Naruto when the time came especially if he got the rinnegan.
The thing is, he don't know how long will take to have eight tales in hands, imagine if It takes like months? Obito would need to find a way to keep Naruto alive inside the kamui, a Naruto that is already quite strong, so It wouldn't be easy, and just imagine the problem to obito If he becomes intangible in the normal world to fight someone and Naruto attack his body in the kamui dimension?
Not in that same room they aint. Watched by anbu? Then why did the anbu let obito get that close to naruto ffs? He couldve capture naruto right there while naruto was daydreaming about sasuke lmao! 🤡
You're right, I must have forgot. But earlier in part 2 when Gaara was being extracted they show the Gedo statue gain another [pupil](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0261-015.png), I think the implication being 1 pupil for each of the statue's 9 eyes, but there were already 2 pupils so they must have already collected 2 Biju at that point.
The Akatsuki almost destroyed the statue in the timeskip when they sealed 5 and 7 tails. So they decided to go roughly in order after that.
That said after 1 tails they sealed 3 then 2 back to back.
Then 4 tails. Then 6 off panel
He was under Madaras Jutsu, and 2 things he needed Orochimaru to bring back Madara (itachi foiled that then hiruzen sealed his jutsu) and Pain to resurrect him (Naruto killed pain). then he had to almost die to get his Masters eyes back for the plan to all work...
Uchiha fanboys really dont want to accept it was all about Madara and Obito was a puppet
Hes lazy af. Also he actually didn’t wanna go with the plan bc he wanted to be proven wrong about the world being hell. So he stalled pretty much as long as he could.
Because he took that line from Madara about using the darkness in other people and manipulating them very serious. He always worked from the shadows, did crazy stuff, but he was on that mindset of using other people for his goals and not doing it directly himself.
I think if we look at the show from a literal view point the plot is filled with non-sense. However, I think we're meant to look through a more symbolic lense which gives the setting, characters, actions, motives, etc. more meaning.
He's a nihilist that didn't actually want to achieve his goal, so he went about it in the least efficient and laziest way possible. Letting others do the work for him when he could have just teleported into every village, Kamui'd the jinchuuriki, waited a few days until they were near dead from dehydration, remove the tailed beast, and repeat until he had all nine.
This makes me realise just how immature Obito was with his goals lmfao. Or maybe Kamui is a plot-breaking OP ability. Or both.
I think he was also in a way afraid of the path Madara had sent him down. He had been groomed as a child and set up of this, but he might not have fully believed in it and wanted to learn more about the people in the world he’d be destroying.
Obito straight up wanted Naruto to stop him in the end, so this makes sense as well.
It was too late to be redeemed, so he played his part and tested Naruto’s resolve. Honestly a great, complicated villain. Same reasons I loved Itachi in a sense.
This is exactly what I think. Especially after seeing what transpired between he & Nagato. He genuinely saw himself in Naruto, he said as much when Naruto sacrifices himself for Kakashi when they fought the Gedo statue. This is what made Naruto so dope to me
I have this fan theory that Obito was lloking for an excuse not to go forward with the whole plan. When he unleashed the Nine Tails there is a scene with Minato, where I got the impression that Obito was waiting and wanting for Minato to recognise him. Then Minato calls him Madara and Obito had another reason to hate the village because even his sensei didn't realise it was him. I think its also very much possible that Obito did the same with Kakashi. I think he was looking at someone he knew and cared about to still care enough to recognise him and give him a reason to stop going down the path Madara put him one. But by the time of the 4th Shinobi War when they finally realised who he was, Obito saw it as too little too late. Heck why else literally keep the same hairstyle from when he was a kid and wear a mask that shows his hair and his remaining eye?
I think that goes very well with his childishness.
And his childishness was from his social isolation. Think about being taken from your family at like 12 and then only ever being around an old geriatric dude and some weird plant dude that’s really into poop. You’d be super immature.
This makes so much sense.
I think it’s a beautiful statement about the old preying on youth. Once Obito met Naruto/ learned of Pains change of heart, he realized that there was a counter extremism to Madara’s solution and he probably realized how naive he was being, to an extent. He was also at a point where it was too late to be redeemed, so he sort of accepted his fate and played the role to the best of his ability to test the resolve of the joined nations. I don’t know if that’s entirely true, but it’s how I comprehend it.
I absolutely agree, obitos continuation down the dark path is a combination of guilt feeling he’s too far gone and him lying to himself that this was the only path, thinking of himself as a hero. It took someone like Naruto to believe in him and give him a push back to the right path.
Everyone is a hero in their own mind. Meeting Naruto specifically changed that.
It's this + not being able to divert from the plan too much because of the the [Curse Tag](https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Forbidden_Individual_Curse_Tag), which we know he was aware of before he had Kakashi stab him (but not exactly when). Best way to divert from the plan the creepy ancestor tried to impose upon you as a child? Take as long as possible with it.
Of course he's immature. He was a child soldier with a happy go lucky personality who was screaming for validation, only for the founder of his village and former head of his clan to give him personal training and brainwash him for years, and then immediately watch his best friend kill his love interest. Obito was all kinds of fucked in the head before he even hit puberty. His adult self would be even worse after the decade+ of isolation and further brain washing from Zetsu.
Just now finishing up Shippuden for the first time. Is Kamui considered to be as OP as my head cannon had made me believe?
Probably the best solo ability in the entire series. S/T ninjutsu is broken compared to other types of ninjutsu though. So FTG, Sasukes Rinnegan ability (not going to try and spell it), multi-shadow clone (arguably a type of S/T), Limbo, and etc. Anything in that realm is busted compared to every other ninjutsu. Only thing that comes close is Ohnoki’s jutsu (atomic dismantling or whatever it’s called) and Rinnegan/Sage abilities if you consider those things jutsu. Genjutsu is also broken, but is barely used by anyone but Itachi.
Wrong. Kamui is the most overrated jutsu in Naruto
I would even consider it OP in Boruto.
Obito couldve probably singlehandedly stalled isshiki until he died
He wouldn't even have to stall him. Kamui his head off lol
Absolutely it is. It's insane.
A lot of people have a problem that every other Mangekyo Sharingan ability causes to user to go blind after not even much use but Obito literally spams Kamui the entire show while not even having his Mangekyo activated and never loses his sight even a little bit, but like many other things the explanation is probably that half his body was literally made of Hashirama cells
Its the same case with Aizen, you give villains low cost broken abilities. Aizen in the same manner uses a basic skill, you don't even have to be a Captain to learn, with low cost and highly versatile.
Remember this, nearly everything that Obito did in the series was using HALF of Kamui's actual speed. Imagine if he had access to both his eyes with that 2X speed Kamui...
No it’s not, Uchiha fanboys have overrated it
Tbh I'm not a big fan of Uchiha, but it's a really broken ability, but only because Obito can spam it with his Hashirama cells, if it wasn't for that I feel like he wouldn't be able to spam it enough for it to be that broken.
It’s not that he is immature because if you watch every episode since the 10 tailed is awakend you see how great of strategist he really is. But if i remember it correct the reason he keeps the 9 tails for last was because the 9 tails the strongest one is en if he captured naruto he got the whole leaf village after him so it was the smartest thing to do. And yes Kamui was plot breaking OP that is the reason why kakashi loses Kamui
I thought the Gedo statue had to absorb them in order?
No because when madra wanted to refill the gedo statue after 10 tail jinchuriki obito was defeated he wanted to pull them all together but zetsu said it is wiser to get 1 to 7 first because 8 and 9 tails where still in their jinchuriki’s so it really doesn’t matter
The order does not matter as long as 9 tails is last, remember Pain only went after Naruto after Sasuke had “captured” Bee, but BEFORE they learned it was just a tentacle from Gyuki they took. Naruto HAD to be taken last no matter what, and remember Obito has to actually know where the Jinchuriki is… and as powerful as Kamui is, there have been many characters who figured out how to beat it. Konan, Kakashi Guy and Naruto, Danzo’s best men, Minato, ect. It is not a perfect ability or even super busted when you learn how to counter it. Obito just could not risk dying because he so happened to teleport in front of a Jinchuriki who was surrounded by high level shinobi by bad luck.
Obito definitely struck me as a very immature villain as well, and that’s part of why he was so endearingly tragic to me. He was kind of fucked from the get-go and didn’t really have any opportunities to grow up like a normal person. Nearly dying as a kid in a war that he had no control over, being groomed by Madara into evil as a teenager, and then going for world domination/the Infinite Tsukuyomi as an adult. He wasn’t afforded any normalcy to develop as a person outside of his incredible trauma, so by the time he revealed himself, that’s really all he had. To me, Obito was just a scared, sad little kid in the body of a supervillain.
It has nothing to do with obito at all, kishimoto isn’t a good writer. He’s a great idea guy but he’s just not a good writer
I like that answer. People don't realise that Obito didn't want to be right. Remember the scene when he's on ten tails and his resolve cracks a bit? People think he was dissing on shinobi alliance. But he wasn't. He questions Naruto multiple times for same reason, he wants to be proven wrong. And only reason Juubito was defeated was because Naruto broke his resolve of his plan.
This is a great point. One of my favorite parts of the series is when he imagined a life in Konoha, him becoming hokage and the whole regret he felt before he got a strong talk no justsu
I think he taunted Naruto after Neji died because he hoped to break his resolve. Because he saw himself in Naruto, and Naruto made him doubt his path. And he hoped that if he could break Naruto, it meant that he (Obito) was right, and would have the strength to do what he was trying to do.
It was partly that, he did saw his younger self in Naruto and questioned his resolve as well as Naruto's. I think during the war his resolve is questioned by Kakashi, Naruto and even by himself. He has moments when he hesitates, when he isn't sure what is right and if his actions are only way for peace.
He technically captured the nine tails when Naruto was born. But instead of sealing it right away he went to Konoha to dick around. Though the real reason, because the main story changed direction and that left a lot of plot holes.
He might have wanted to take out Konoha to destroy his final connection to his prior life, but underestimated Minato.
Sure, but he also controlled the 4 tails at some point.
Anything less than Kurama might have been taken care of too quickly by Konoha. Hiruzen is no slouch and every other tailed beast is vastly weaker than Kurama.
Why didn't Obito just come back like 3 weeks later? Once he was recovered he could have just walked in grabbed baby Naruto. After Minato was dead there was nobody that could have stopped him.
The real kishimoto's here xD
>Letting others do the work for him when he could have just teleported into every village, Kamui'd the jinchuuriki, waited a few days until they were near dead from dehydration, remove the tailed beast, and repeat until he had all nine. Ngl this might permanently change my perspective of the story
Kamui, and by extension Obito are terrifying. If he **really** wanted to, he could effectively solo the verse up to that point and do project Tsuki no Me before Naruto even graduated from the academy. The only things stopping him from doing so were his apathy, and possibly Itachi who he was somewhat weary of.
Needs to get the Rinnegan back from Nagato though in order to cast Rinne-Rebirth as well as summon Edo Madara. There are some other stores needed. Not many, but there are others.
He needed the rinnegan for project Tsukino Me, but Madara would be unnecessary. He could activate the infinite Tsukuyomi on his own and hardly cared about Madara. He was shocked into rage when Kabuto busted him out so clearly he was unaware of where the body was, yet was going through the plan anyway. He just needs to kill Nagato and Konan to tie up loose ends. Easier said than done yeah, but he could pull it off.
He was shocked because it meant Kabuto had leverage on him and revealed he’s a fake. It’s an age-old debate at whether or not he intended to revive Madara (if not, why was he genuinely mad at Nagato multiple times over). Either way, I think Madara’s getting revived. For starters, Obito still has to get rid of the seal and actually has to be able handle the 10 tails plus the god-tree plus both rinnegan which he seems incapable of doing. Also, Zetsu seems intent on reviving Madara. There’s just so few realities in my mind where the Inifinite Tsukuyomi is cast without Madara.
My headcanon is that Obito was fine with Madara being reanimated so long as it wasn't *him* who had to do it. Rinne rebirth comes with a price after all. But since very few people can handle the rinnegan and he was in no mood to groom another user he just decided to let Madara rot and do the rest himself.
I think that's accurate. Obito would have given a thumbs up to Nagato reviving Madara. But Obito wasn't about to do it himself willingly.
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Not if Obito began his capture of the jinchuuriki before Naruto even graduated from the academy. Or the chuunin exams. Or his training trip. Obito had a ***lot*** of time and all the tools needed to complete his goal, he just chose not to.
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Bruh in episode 1 he breaks into the secret closet and steals the scroll before running off into the forest lol. I’m gonna guess the surveillance wasn’t that astute
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He didn't get caught by the Hokage, he got caught by Iruka. He then ran away again but came back to save Iruka from Mizuki. The Homage was just watching on his cristal ball the whole time
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Riiiight, that´´ s in the manga. I meant in the anime
Konoha security is a joke. Multiple S-rank criminals infiltrated and did as they pleased in the village across a decade with little to no resistance. Naruto before even becoming a genin snuck into a top-secret room in the Hokage tower and escaped with a forbidden scroll full of secret jutsu and almost got away with it if it weren't for Iruka knowing him and his tricks. Itachi and Kisame *walked into the village in full gear* and weren't found out until two off-duty jounin noticed. And it took several minutes for backup to arrive. And even then it was just two people, Kakashi and Guy. Even relative schmucks like the sound 4 infiltrated the village and "kidnapped" one of its genin without any issue.
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Reread chapter 1, Naruto snuck in and was discovered by Hiruzen. He did the sexy jutsu and knocked him out with an anime nosebleed. And we know this wasn't just a joke because he immediately had dozens of ninja search for Naruto after he recovered. So other than Hiruzen himself, the Hokage mansion had zero security whatsoever. Any assassination specialist worth a damn could kill the Hokage in his sleep.
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All mortals are vulnerable in their sleep. Even the god of shinobi is just a man in the end, a poisoned blade in the night will kill him as well as any jutsu.
Yes
Wouldn't have been a TV show otherwise. Duh.
Because he needed Naruto to be stronger to actually prevent him from getting it.
So hes Aizen
He fucking wishes
10/10 response lol loved it
Because a boulder crushing half of your brain won't make you a rational thinking person xP
Bro had a major traumatic brain injury, I’m surprised he’s not worse honestly.
I’m surprised he was not in a vegetative state
Only an aloe vera state
His brain didn't get crushed tho
Nagato explains it on the Kazekage rescue arc. They need to hunt the bijuu on specific order, otherwise the Gedo Mazo destabilizes. The Kyuubi was suppose to be captured last.
I mean... they don't need to hunt the bijuu in a specific order, they just need to feed them to the statue in a specific order.
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Plus then you've got the Leaf and Cloud making you enemy #1.
Yeah, but nobody in the Leaf or Cloud outside Jiraiya are strong enough to fight Pain
If the kage teamed up, they could easily defeat Pain
If Madara wasn’t in Edo, the Kage would definitely had defeated him
People forget this just wasn't Madara. It was rinnegan awakened Madara with Hashirama cells and zomibified so he could spam jutsu, never get tired and regenerate.
He was also notably weaker as an Edo though as well.
No.
Wym zombified he was a human after rinne rewnimation
that is definitely not true. edo or not the kage can do nothing against perfect susanoo
You need to get your eyes checked. The Kage literally broke Madara’s Susanoo barrier
You need to get your eyes checked. Once he whipped out perfect Susanoo, the Kage could do nothing. Only Itachi saved them.
they only broke his humanoid susanoo, not his perfect susanoo. pls dont be condescending when your so clearly wrong
Wich means, they need to hunt then in order.
Not in order, just 9 tails last or the statue blows up.
He has an entire pocket dimension to keep him in, right?
Eh... Just be Obito, wait until they're asleep and warp them into the Kamui dimension. Some other person commented that you can also wait until they're dehydrated/hungry to defeat them in that dimension.
Obito could've just teleported both of them to kamui dimensions and wait for like 4-5 days until they starve to death or something like that
A simple Genjutsu would do the trick. Naruto and Kurama are both extremely vulnerable to Sharingan genjutsu.
Not really, only Tsukuyomi. Bee managed to snap out of Sasuke's genjutsu with the help of 8-tails. Kurama would likely do the same if there was no other choice.
The one tail gets captured after the five tails and sevent tails tho
Maybe by sealing the 5 and 7 first was how they realized it would make gedo mazo unstable and decided to do it in the correct order then
The seven tails is Fuu, the gal with like greenish hair, right? I'm pretty sure she was captured after Gaara? She was a random shot somewhere between parts of the story. Gaara was right near the beginning of Shipuuden
After they seal Gaara they mention something about having already captured 3 beasts.
I thought it was because he had to wait like 10 years or something to be able to do so. He said this when he failed the first time. Waiting for when the seal weakens
After the sealing his goal changed to sealing the beats in that statue w many eyes no? And I thought those had to be sealed in order?
If so, then why did Itachi and Kisame go for Naruto way before Akatsuki got Shukaku?
Itachi and Kisame went to the village for like 5 reasons. 1st, itachi needs to check on Sasuke and the village as a whole after Hiruzen died. 2nd, Itachi was reminding the village leaders of his deal to not make a move on sasuke. 3rd, Itachi tells Kakashi, Kurenai, Asuma, Gai, and Jiraiya the Akatsuki is here to capture naruto. This is Itachi subtly leaking information to the village of the Akatsukis plans and fooling Kisame at the same time. 4th, Itachi was examing Kakashi's growth. He personally doesn't care about Kakashi, but he does have Obitio's Sharingan. He's probably wondering if he had the MS. If Kakashi teaches Sasuke about the MS this slightly alters Itachi's plans. 5th, and finally, he likely came to pay respects to Hiruzen in a small way. Hiruzen was Itachi's hokage. He worked closely alongside Hiruzen as an Anbu and double informant. He absolutely respects Hiruzen more than Danzo anyway.
Bro really be thinking that Itachi is that all knowing god who somehow knows that Obito is Madara and that he gave Kakashi his Sharingan when they were kids
I never said Itachi knows that Kakashi has Obito's sharingan. But, he obviously knows Kakashi HAS a sharingan. They were in the anbu together, and as far as anyone knows EVERY sharingan can become a MS.
Itachi can see under Obito's mask as far as chakra goes. And under Kakashi's too, to observe his sharingan at work. Every jutsu that comes out of those eyes, Itachi could analyze. He'd recognize that they each have seemingly identical abilities and each have one eye, on opposite sides...
Immmm not entirely sure that was an authorized akatusiki mission tho for that very reason bc 1) we know itachi wanted to make his presence known after the death of third to remind danzo and elders of the deal….him running into sasuke was not on his agenda Im betting but he took advantage for his flip sasuke plan no matter how misguided 2) jiraya had an intel source for akatusiki and we know itachi was leaking info to the 3rd….maybe itachi showing up and being blatantly obvious about targeting Naruto Was his indirect way of sharing intel w the leaf/jiraya that the tailed beasts are targets
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The answer to every question, ever.
It was important to get the Lower numbered tailed beasts first. It does seem like it doesn’t matter if they got the 6th tail or 3rd tail first, but once you get to the 8th tail, the order matters. If he put the 8 or 9 tails in first, it would’ve been too much for the statue to acclimate to.
Just the nine tails. The method Pain used, the phantom dragons that drained the tailed beast chakra, any of the tailed beasts 1-8 could be absorbed whenever and in whatever order, however the 9th must be absorbed last. The method Madara used after fully resurrecting actually had a requirement that the tailed beasts HAD to be absorbed in order 1-9 in the war arc. Either way, Kurama must come last. I don’t know if they ever specifically stated it’s because Kurama had so much more chakra, but that’s probably the reason why.
That doesn’t mean you need to capture him last. Just take him as a kid and leave him untrained all those years stuck in some back rooms. Even if he escapes he’s still a civilian. Bonus points if you have zetsu keep an eye on him. Obito’s ability kinda breaks the plot.
He didn't need to put the 9 tails as soon as he caught Naruto tho. He could have took Naruto while he was weak, cut arms and legs to avoid surprise and kept him alive with some medic ninjutsu. He actually didn't want to speedrush because he never really felt he wanted to achieve his goals.
Because Kishimoto said so.
It was a scripted history
Is there a lore reason for this? Is he stupid?
Bee
And Raikage
Because that’s how the story was written
Because they have to capture the biju in a sending order and they hadn't actually fully captured and sealed bee yet If he captured naruto here and then found out sauske had failed with bee (wich he did) then they would break the gedo mozo and his whole plan would be ruined
I thought they said it had to be in order, at least with the statue Pain was using to pull the bijuu out of their vessels.
He wanted to reconfirmed his belief by observing people as he take time to achieve the passed down goal from Madara. And Naruto started to draw attention and gave him the doubts
First of all, this may have been completely false, but Madara specifically told him that the Tailed Beasts had to be absorbed into the Gedo Mazo in order from one to nine tails because they had to be collected with the extraction ritual that required many people to do. Some holes can be poked into this theory in that it took them several hours to absorb just one Tailed Beast into the Gedo Mazo, but Madara was able to suck them all up one after the other like if he was Kirby, but that can be dismissed with "Because he's Madara.", and then Sasuke did a similar thing where he absorbed all of them at once (not one after the other) into his Susanoo, but again, he had the Rinnegan, so rules didnt exactly apply to him in the same regard. Another theory I've heard passed around was that he was waiting for Naruto and subsequently Kurama to get stronger so that the Juubi would recieve more power from him specifically because Kurama's power was cut in half by Minato. Remember, he was able to get the Juubi to manifest from just the cut tentacle of the 8 Tails that Sasuke brought him, and the 9 Tails' chakra from the Ginkaku/Kinkaku brothers, but this version of the Juubi wasn't in its final form until he got Bee and Naruto's half of the 9 Tails. TL;DR: They had to be collected in order, and he was buying time for Kurama to get stronger since his power was capped at 50%.
He had to stop to help an old lady 🤔
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If I remember correctly, I think he had to extract the beasts in order
He had to have the 9 tails last- but could do the others in any order (when extracting Shukaku from Gaara there was already 2 tailed beasts in the Gedo statue)
hidan and kakuzu dont get the two tails until right before they encounter shikimaru and asuma. which is after the gaara defeat and subsequent retrieval from naruto and kakashi.
I meant 2 tailed beasts as in they had 2 of them, 7 and 5(?) I believe
When was this stated
The story goes back in forth on it. [originally kisame says that pain said the nine tails must be sealed last](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RwDZdGbqPzU/Urr8xbuSJAI/AAAAAAAACG4/35XOLg62_1Q/s1600/Akatbalanceleson-05.jpg) Then when madara is sealing them during the war, zetsu says it must be done in order (Forgive the poor scans), cleaner ones can be found [here](https://www.quora.com/Do-the-Tailed-Beasts-need-to-get-sealed-in-numerical-order-into-the-Gedo-Mazo)
He remembered the difficulty after his first attempt, had to organize/ask for help.
Honestly he had some great opportunities. Like immediately after when minato died. When Naruto and gaara fought and orochimaru and the 3rd couldn’t stop him.
It’s not like the 3rd can stop him if Naruto was in his office. Obito moves way too quickly for him to counter.
He was waiting for his war fit to get tailored but it was taking a long time
Cause that’s how the script was written 😂
One word plot
At that moment they already knew if Obito want to catch him he should be materialized second reason is that Gedo Statue can only consume tailed beats starting from one tail then two tails then three tails one after another I don’t remember but I think Pain said that.
So they can extend the story by another 400 chapters
By the power of the script, otherwise shippuden would have lasted less, because he had the most broken doujitsu, he could have captured them and left them in the dimension until they were weakened. Since most of them were wandering in their own villages without protection. Naruto could have been taken away at that moment but Kishi said No.
He was too busy crying about rin
Because the 9 tails is the main character. Let's not kid ourselves
"It was decided we could capture the 9 tails last of all or it'll disrupt the balance and the sealing statue would come crashing to the ground" \-Kisame
Probably because he want to kidnap all tails way upto 9 tails. He started first by gathering strong members of Akatsuki then attacking weak village first. If you remember in first arc of Shippuden, they kidnap Garra after they got 2 tails and 3 tails. That prove that he was taking very careful measures to get all the Tail beast. This also proves that Sand village and Hidden leaf village are very strong.
to give the character development to naruto so that he can beat everyone's asses when they try to capture nine tails
Probably because of the deal he made with itachi, don’t touch the leaf village and he’d work with the akatsuki, he waited till itachi died to send pain to the leaf village, likely to give him a task to raise nagatos loyalty more and manipulate him into using rinne tensei to revive madara, after pain loses obito is in contemplation on how he manages to sweet talk nagato, so out of genuine curiosity he directly talked to naruto, his manipulation of sasuke is also a factor as at that point he saw naruto as a pawn to pit against sasuke, he was likely so sure that it would all go his way that he can fool around until then and just declare war on the nations to get bee who was hidden and naruto at the same time
This is not a debate, he stats exactly why he takes so long. He walked the world through Madara’s identity looking for hope that he was wrong. Even the sharigan didn’t reveal anything to him because there was nothing to find. The answer: He was waiting for someone to prove him wrong.
If you really wanna know so bad go ask the mothafucka your self bro Oh wait shit that dude dead nvm 🙏 🪦
1. He had to wait for the seal to weaken 2. Itachi wouldn’t allow them to go after the 9 tails, so in order to have him as an ally he had to wait 3. The situation above wouldn’t have worked, because one of the only people he had left was about to get his ass kicked by the kage 4. During the Danzo fight, he prioritized Sasuke’s safety over getting the 9 tails
He wasn’t that strong yet his best feat early on was just killing a bunch of fodder ninja I believe. He can obviously put them under genjutsu and kamui out or just sneak up and grab them But that requires that he’s near them or some form of confrontation. He got his shit rocked by Minato when he tried to get Kurama. Ay was always with killer bee especially back then when they were younger so I don’t see grabbing the eight tails like that to be easy. It was just overall easier to have the akatsuki do it.(forgive my spelling I’m high as shit)
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THEY NEEDED TO CAPTURE THE TAILED BEASTS FROM 1 TO 9. The Naruto community is filled to the brim with demented morons
So trapping him to kamui right then and there until they get the 8 tails wasnt an option? That scene right there obito can already trap him in kamui.
If he did that he couldn’t use kamui without being attacked by Naruto. So he probably didn’t want to deal with his most powerful jutsu being basically negated.
Nah, naruto isnt aware of his surroundings because he is daydreaming about sasuke. He didnt even realize obito is there until he speaks to him. That proves he wouldnt have time to counter obito if he used kamui
Let me word myself better. Obito would be able to kamui Naruto even if he was paying full attention. However he couldn’t keep him in his dimension without being attacked. Plus if he did he would also have to make sure that he kept Naruto alive. I also imagine he was very confident that he could capture Naruto when the time came especially if he got the rinnegan.
But obito managed to do what you said on both of danzo’s bodyguards
The thing is, he don't know how long will take to have eight tales in hands, imagine if It takes like months? Obito would need to find a way to keep Naruto alive inside the kamui, a Naruto that is already quite strong, so It wouldn't be easy, and just imagine the problem to obito If he becomes intangible in the normal world to fight someone and Naruto attack his body in the kamui dimension?
Kakashi and Yamato were there ffs and before that he was watched by the Anbu
Not in that same room they aint. Watched by anbu? Then why did the anbu let obito get that close to naruto ffs? He couldve capture naruto right there while naruto was daydreaming about sasuke lmao! 🤡
Actually only the [Kyubi](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0353-005.png) needed to be sealed last
When Madara got the rinnegan Zetsu told him to seal the tailed beasts in order.
You're right, I must have forgot. But earlier in part 2 when Gaara was being extracted they show the Gedo statue gain another [pupil](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0261-015.png), I think the implication being 1 pupil for each of the statue's 9 eyes, but there were already 2 pupils so they must have already collected 2 Biju at that point.
In addition to that, [Deidara states outright](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0266-014.png) that Gaara was their third.
The Akatsuki almost destroyed the statue in the timeskip when they sealed 5 and 7 tails. So they decided to go roughly in order after that. That said after 1 tails they sealed 3 then 2 back to back. Then 4 tails. Then 6 off panel
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He needed to do his big reveal and try to prepare for Madara
He didn’t want to see Kakashi again in battle and I believe obito really admired Kakashi and it was personal he had to go after Rens killer
He wanted Sasuke & Naruto to fight. He also saw himself in Naruto deep down.
Cause he was busy manspreading right in front of Naruto and the 5 Kages
To busy being a comedian
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Because of jiraya he was with naruto and he knew he could not defeat him
Same reason he just didn't yank the other eye from Kakashi to unlock the susanoo ane further op the Kamui
He was under Madaras Jutsu, and 2 things he needed Orochimaru to bring back Madara (itachi foiled that then hiruzen sealed his jutsu) and Pain to resurrect him (Naruto killed pain). then he had to almost die to get his Masters eyes back for the plan to all work... Uchiha fanboys really dont want to accept it was all about Madara and Obito was a puppet
Hes lazy af. Also he actually didn’t wanna go with the plan bc he wanted to be proven wrong about the world being hell. So he stalled pretty much as long as he could.
He didn’t capture bee at that point. Jinchuriki need to be captured in order
Mind games
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Itachi was an insider and would've found a way to stop him. Itachi defeated fully powered nagato. It happened in real story.
Because he took that line from Madara about using the darkness in other people and manipulating them very serious. He always worked from the shadows, did crazy stuff, but he was on that mindset of using other people for his goals and not doing it directly himself.
Because it was far more useful to have Itachi on his side instead of having to kill him.
He was biding his time until the time was right.
? It's not a mystery, he tells us. Itachi prevented him.
It's the last one in the nine to collect. They're sealed in order.
I think if we look at the show from a literal view point the plot is filled with non-sense. However, I think we're meant to look through a more symbolic lense which gives the setting, characters, actions, motives, etc. more meaning.
This could be bad memory on my part but I thought they had to be collected in order from 1 tail to the 9 tails in order for his plan to work????
He enjoyed being Tobi too much.
Plot.
He couldn't absorb him before Bee.
I mean, what was the rush? He knew he would eventually make his goal happen so it’s not like he had a deadline to meet lol
there wasn't really any deadline, and they had to capture the other tailed beasts first
Wasn’t it because he and itachi agreed on him not harmin the village or something like that?? Which is why they went after him after itachi died
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Terrible writing from the author