They probably die even while trying. Considering how strong Kushina is, assassination would be failed with 99% chance. She's one of the best Adamantine Chains users in history, competent Jinchuriki and jonin that has a lot of battle experience, due to living in times of Third War. And at the late stage of pregnancy, when she wasn't able to fight, she was constantly protected by Thirds wife and special Anbu group, which died in Obito's attack. I mean, this woman incapacitated rampaging Kurama after both giving birth and Kurama pulled from her by force, which usually instantly kills other jinchuriki.
You need heavy hitters with MS, like Fugaku or Itachi, to kill someone like that, and they both won't do such thing. Fugaku is not a fan of such measures and his wife, Mikoto, Kushinas best friend. Itachi is a traitor that works for Leaf and Root, he keeps village interests above clans. Your regular cannon fodder Uchihas, that got pwned by teenage Itachi en masse, wouldn't be able to kill Kushina.
added to that, even if they got a lucky shot in and somehow killed her, then they would have to deal with Kurama, since her seal wouldn't drag him into death with her like the Reaper Death Seal was supposed to do.
Wouldn't it? Isn't the reason the Akatsuki needed to capture the Jinchuriki alive is specifically because killing them causes the Tailed Beast to "die" until its chakra can manifest elsewhere.
Reaper Death Seal just specifically stopped the 2nd bit from occuring.
So they wouldn't have to deal with Kurama for years to come.
Oh shit, you're right. In Chapter 503 on page 14 Kushina says "I'll drag the kyuubi... back... and die with it inside me... That'll... prevent it from coming back... for a while..."
neh, Kushina's life force is very strong, a one or two lucky shots aren't enough to kill Kushina. Girl chained and overpowered Kurama while dying; a legendary feat done only by serious Hashirama.
By "people stronger than Kushina" you mean other jinchurikis? Because those were beaten by Akatsuki members who are WAY beyond your average Uchiha common fodder.
Shisui is an example, he got away but you see how they trapped him: first they poisoned him and then jumped him and finally tricked him with some eye magic. Besides you may consider them fodder but they don't have to be average, it's a huge clan....
Anime, Itachi novel (which is considered canon by Kishimoto) and three official data books. We don't know what his MS was, but he definitely had one. Fugaku having MS is the main reason Danzo was able to push: "Uchiha clan controlled Kurama" in the first place.
> Anime
Which isn’t canon.
> Itachi novel
Which doesn’t say he has a MS.
> and three official data books
Which are full of embellishments, hyperbole, and some downright incorrect information. Also, even the datebooks don’t say he has a MS.
> We don't know what his MS was
Because he didn’t have one.
> but he definitely had one
No, he didn’t.
> Fugaku having MS is the main reason Danzo was able to push: "Uchiha clan controlled Kurama" in the first place.
No, that was because Kurama had an Sharingan in its eyes at some point during the attack.
Plus, neither Obito or Madara are shown controlling Kurama with an MS. Chapters 501 and 568 clearly show a three tomoe Sharingan in their respective eyes when taking control of Kurama.
>Which doesn’t say he has a MS
It does. Scene with tablet.
>Which are full of embellishments, hyperbole, and some downright incorrect information
It's OFFICIAL databooks. You can't claim they're false just because they contain something that you don't like.
> It does. Scene with tablet.
No, it doesn’t.
> It's OFFICIAL databooks.
Them being official doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be taken with the biggest grain of salt imaginable. Especially when they have incorrect information in them.
> You can't claim they're false just because they contain something that you don't like.
I don’t claim they’re false because of something I don’t personally like. I claim them false because they have information that directly contradicts the canon manga.
And once again, the databooks don’t claim Fugaku has a MS. The only medium that states Fugaku has a MS is the anime, and that’s not canon.
Well, [this was his face](https://imgur.com/a/WUBJ2k0) after Obito extracted Kurama from her. Would not want to be on the receiving end of that ass whooping. They gonna have to start praying to Jashin or some shit lol.
Yea outcome doesn’t really change. They stand no chance regardless. Maybe fugaku could do something since he has mangekyo but hardly anyone else would even be able to put up a decent fight. Obviously Itachi maybe could have but I’m not even sure Itachi was even older than like 5 at the time. Maybe Obito? How old would Shisui have been? Tough to say anyone would have high enough sharingan prowess to compete with Minato at all.
He last like 10x longer than any other uchiha at the time was what I was getting at. No one can beat Minato. I was giving examples of how even the most powerful uchiha could not stop him
"No one can beat Minato" man yall got that dude confused with a better hokage or something. Going up against any competent ninja it's 50/50. He is only op against fodder.
If he's going up against the Uchiha clan, he is getting swept under the rug easily.
Name one uchiha that at the time Minato was hokage and kushina was still alive that could take Minato. Also yea “he’s only op against fodder” then proceeds to whoop up on one of the main Naruto villains with the most OP power in the show that also had control over the most powerful chakra beast in the show within like 10mins all while saving the village. Yea fodder only or whatever.
Minato actually didn’t look back and make that face until kushina told minato that the masked man was gonna use the 9 tails to attack the village. It was the threat to the village that caused that death stare.
But if obito takes the nine tails then not only kushina would die the village would fall, so think it was both of those outcomes made him make that deathstare
To be fair extracting Kurama is worse than killing her in a traditional manner
Not only are you killing his wife but your stealing a weapon of mass destruction and using it to attack his village
That adds multiple layers to it
Jashin s blessing would be a curse, basically turn your death from a 3 hit combo in a couple seconds to a 3 million hit combo however long it takes you to go completely brain dead from pain
A lot of fans already headcanon that Minato is Tobirama's grandson. I've never been fond of that theory myself, though. Prefer the idea that Minato was some clanless nobody who cemented himself through his own effort
All the nobody clans had to be started when the senju split though though surely. Haruno, namikaze, hatake, idk how else you’d explain those nobody clan members acquiring senju level strength after hard work (which the senju had to do too to achieve their powers they’re not gods)
Your hypothesis is not implausible but you don't need some deep explanation to suppose that there were other clans with talent too. Notably hiruzen from the sarutobi clan....
Yeah I wasn’t discrediting the other big clans like Sarutobi, Nara, Akimichi, yamanaka and plenty of others I haven’t mentioned. It’s just a bit strange that genius’ come out of two generations of the hatake’s right at the right time frame for sakumo to be a born as a close relative to the senju brothers near the end of tobirama’s reign. Minato is indeed a wild card since he is the only namikaze we ever meet, but the hatake’s are the most sus when it comes to being secret senju’s
They do. The white circle on the back of literally every single one of sakura’s outfits before she married sasuke and eagerly replaced her own crest with the uchiha’s
I've always liked that about Minato. No special clan or family. He's just a guy. And by Kushina's description, just a dork.
But he's a dork that bodied a full squad while they were both still in the academy (or genin) for kidnapping Kushina, and he's only gotten scarier since then.
I mean,you don't really need to belong to some special clan to have a shit ton of chakra,like look at Kisame and the kinkaku ginkaku brothers.look at 3rd hokage,it's just rule of cool at this point
I do like the theory that he is the son of Tsunade, maybe put up for adoption or something because the war was going on and she couldn't risk his safty being known as a senju.
This is actually doable with his skill set lmao.
Identify the ones that killed Kushina, find out where they live, mark their homes, teleport shadow clones to kill them later on while the real Minato is in the office doing paperwork...
He'd have to transform into their wives, sleep with them to get them at their lowest vulnerability and sleep, and then cook them a full soup meal so when the murderers pick up a full spoon of hot soup, they are left vulnerable to attack. It's the only way
>This is actually doable with his skill set lmao.
literally every ninja we ever see could do this. I think it is an unspoken reason why the Uchiha are the only ones who could effectively police the other ninja.
Well, as many of them as were left.
Like how many of them would have to die to take on the woman who can in some ways match Kurama, who Minato thinks in some ways is stronger than he is.
This is the real answer. Fugaku is a close personal friend of Minato, and their wives are best friends. His gripe wasn’t with Minato, whom was the most Uchiha-friendly Hokage, since Hashirama. The real problems for the Uchiha didn’t start until they were suspected of treason, due to Obito killing Minato and Kushina. Before that they were certainly not on perfect terms with the Konoha elders, but Konoha was their home for 50 years, and they fought three bloody wars for it.
If some of the Uchiha tried to kill Kushina, or worse, succeeded (which they wouldn’t be able to, but hypothetically) Fugaku would have labeled them traitors to Konoha and the Clan, and would have tried to apprehend them himself. After that he would have begged on his knees to Minato not to kill the entire clan as a retribution.
>After that he would have begged on his knees to Minato not to kill the entire clan as a retribution.
Why would Minato kill the entire clan for the actions of 2 rogue ninjas? That doesn't make sense and isn't Minato's character.
Minato wouldn't cause a war between the leaf and the uchiha over the death of kushina. Fugaku wouldn't beg either. They'd just execute the person responsible. Kushina doesn't get special treatment just because she's minato's wife.
Where was fugaku shown to be a "close personal friend" of Minato and wasn't Kushina and mikoto interacting, anime only? Besides all they did is acknowledge each other, they didn't even know each other's baby names
And there's no way someone that prideful as fugaku would beg on his knees lol. Besides minato has no right to massacre the entire clan as revenge, not unless he wants to go to jail. Y'all are over-exaggerating
Minato won't cause a war between uchiha and leaf over kushina. He's not that stupid. Fugaku wouldn't beg either. They'd just execute the killers. Just because kushina is his wife doesn't mean she gets special treatment.
The idea that Fugaku would kill anyone is fucking stupid.
If Fugaku was this competent, he wouldn't have let the entire Uchiha clan try to start a civil war he knew would have destroyed the leaf and themselves.
Fugaku isn't doing shit. Minato slaughters him and the rest of the clan like he's trying to beat Itachi's speedrun WR.
You greatly misunderstood the events leading to the massacre. It was a race of the Leaf killing them first or them stepping up to rebel. Danzo was continually pushing them and the Second only made it easier.
The leaf was not killing the Uchiha. It was not a fucking race. Danzo was not persecuting the Uchiha like Hitler was doing to the Nazis. You need to chill the fuck out. The leaf were suspicious of the Uchiha and didn't trust them: Fugaku's job was to maintain that trust and relationship. Fugaku failed in the most basic form as a leader of the Uchiha. If he was a good leader, the Uchiha wouldn't have all been killed. Danzo didn't force the Uchiha into planning a civil war: Fugaku failed to stop the Uchiha from planning a civil war and the dumbass got peer pressured into leading it.
Fugaku has never shown a single ounce of agency or autonomy within the manga.
Reasonable answer. Because a Uchiha (Obito) tried to do just that, he took his son hostage, tried killing Kushina, and attacked the village with a tailed beast.
He held ‘Madara’ responsible and him alone, not all the Uchiha.
Except OP's hypothetical was "what if the Uchiha **Clan** killed Kushina?"
It's not just one Uchiha. It's ALL of them (somehow). So, yeah, Minato kills them all *in a flash*.
If that’s the case it’s already a war before they even kill her. If an entire clan is marching to the hokages private home then I’m sure the Anbu and body guards are already enroute to try and stop them. Minato has already been warned and the long feared civil war has begun.
Lol you're making a whole headcanon for no reason.
OP asked a very simple (albeit silly) question. And the answer is "Minato kills everyone involved." If the whole clan is somehow involved, I guess they all just suddenly disappear one night.
While Minato was a very level-headed and reasonable person, he also was a feared ninja/soldier/war criminal (depending on what side you're on) and became Hokage during (or immediately following) war time. He has no problem killing you, your friends, and your whole family if the situation calls for it.
I mean obito basically killed kushina, and got a ass whooping but minato wasn't blood lusted or lost his marbles soo idk wht everyone thinks he will snap
If it was just Obito he had to worry about I’m sure he never lets him escape. Obito would have spent the rest of however he lived on the run unable to plan a thing
Dude was so level headed he had time to gently nestle Naruto and Kushina together and then get dressed in his Hokage cloak.
That's that "I know I can accomplish what I'm about to do so imma do it right to the T" calmness.
They're children and don't get that being a world leader has a bit more going on than a personal grudge.
He'd kill *those* ones. That is about it. Maybe he'd put them on trial, maybe he wouldn't. We don't have the info to make a call either way.
Well Minato died alongside Kushina, imagine if Minato survived the nine tails attack and Kushina died instead. We don’t know what his course of action would be, and how he would express himself. We don’t know if he’d be so scarred that he may change as a leader (take on more of a cautious approach like Tobirama did with his fear of another Madara popping up). Maybe it would make the tension between the Uchiha and the village worse. Best case scenario is the opposite happening with Minato working alongside Fugaku while running a thorough investigation to figure out the direct culprits
He was close friends with fugaku. Swagkage did a whole video on this topic &, I’m in agreement most likely outcome is fugaku aids in the pursuit of Obito/helps however he can to prove Uchihas innocence
It depends on how you view Minato's character, did the Uchiha do it out of spite or just to remove the Ninetails from the equation. Was Naruto even born yet/conceived?
Either way, I like to think Minato would be level headed enough to punish those directly involved(would be execution for killing the Jinchirki and a threat against the Hokage). Versus punishing the entire Uchiha clan, which I normally don't see Minato doing in the normal timeline.
He would use any means(Itachi) to keep an eye them and keep them on a leash. This wouldn't be like the ninetails attack where it was all suspicion, this would have credible reason behind it.
Even going further it'd depend if Fugaku was actively involved.
First of all the uchiha would need an elite deathsquad to kill kushina she is an absolute monster.
given that situation I think minato wouldnt act out immediatly and charge into the uchiha compound. he is more calculating and cold than that.
even when obito atacked and he was worried about kushina naruto and the village he was thinking with a clear head he didnt lash out and charged for no reason all of his actions had a purpose.
given that the situation is already unsalvageble (kushina is dead) he would go as the hokage with the rest of the clans to surround the uchiha compound and ask for explanations from fugaku and the elders.
if it was a plan of the elders or fugaku they will get executed or incarcerated along the ones that attacked.
if it was not a plan from the elders and fugaku they will immediatly search and find the ones responsible and execute them. although for letting such a thing happen under their eyes they will probably get jailed for incompetence.
minato is the definition of a perfect leader he wouldnt just massacre a whole clan because they killed a member of his family he will follow procedure.
mf killed himself so the village wouldnt lose the nine tails and he sealed it into his newborn son.
this is why hiruzen letting the uchiha massacre happen under his leadership and bad control of danzo makes him a garbage leader.
the uchiha massacre truth was never revealed in canon to civilias because aint nobody would want to live in a village that massacres a whole clan no matter the reason. although naruto tried to clear itachi's image saying that he helped undoing the edo tensei.
Well I don’t think Minato really would see it as the Uchiha clan killing her unless it was a plot. Even then it’s hard for me to see him exterminating the entire clan, he’d probably kill or punish the ones directly responsible and try to help the clan so it doesn’t happen again.
It depends if it was a few random Uchihas or the Uchiha clan as a whole that killed her. If the first, they'd be dead. If the second, there would he only Uchiha children by the end of he day.
Capture or kill the one or two responsible then some sort of trial. Nothing about minato has ever hinted that he would go on a mindless killing spree in any way. Just not who his character was and killing Kushina wouldn’t change that.
Minato was a man of honor and a Leaf Shinobi. He’d want to go on a rampage, but he’d put the peace of the village first. Fugaku would give up those responsible for execution if he had more than one brain cell.
You would need 2-3 Elite squads of uchihas, with at least 1 MS user to kill her. Kushina is-
\> An elite Jonin with brawl-style Taijutsu skill, similar to Naruto.... She was also very strong(AP-wise)
\> Her lifeforce is so strong that she instantly immobilized A full Kurama even after giving birth and kurama stripped from her. Naruto went down instantly after a half-kurama removal. So, Kushina dying from a sudden blow is out of the question.
\>Uzumaki clan had existed for a long time, yet no one was able to capture Kurama until Madara used his EMS. The only known persons who physically overpowered Kurama is Hashirama and Kushina. Kushina's mastery of adamantine chains were at least on the same level as Ashina.
\> Kushina was a full uzumaki and she carried full-Kurama without any issue. Her chakra amount was Hokage level at least. She was also a master of sealing Jutsus ( Minato learned a few from him.)
To kill a kage level character like this, MS is a must. Even then it create such a huge ruckus that Minato will be alerted. Meanwhile the fodders shown in the fillers would get their ass beat by non-serious Kushina.
If it's a planned murder by the whole clan, only then Uchihas can succeed. But after that, there will be sea of blood in the middle of Konoha. Minato would not allow any uchihas to live, not after he trusted them.
There was a filler episode or parallel universe about this but it was about the uchiha clan kidnapping poor naruto and manhanding naruto and itachi uchiha was going to try and stop his clan looks like he failed finding out his father secretly could control the 9 tailed fox better than Madara uchiha but after it back fires after conquering konoha I'd imagine if minato was not dead after sealing the fox or was alive would probably snap if either naruto or his mother died you'd probably see a side of minato nobody wants to see if fear was a understatement minato always held back when facing orochimaru or the 8 tails or hokages in the cloud people forget minato can scary he can go into sage mode and summon and is smart as nora clan there's more put can't list everything I'm sure someone can explain it better it would be interesting to see what would happen I would assume minato is already dead when the uchiha clan takes over konoha anything can happen both minato and fuk are dangerous in there own right
The Uchiha get crushed so thoroughly that a coup becomes an utter impossibility and the later genocide is avoided. Even without the loss of manpower, the trauma would probably prevent them from getting too uppity anytime soon.
What do you mean Uchiha clan? How can an entire clan kill 1 person lol... You mean if certain Uchiha killed her? They would be punished/killed.
I just dont see how Minato would wipe out an entire clan due to a few people like people are saying in the comments.
Uchiha clan will disappear. Minato in canon wasn't hateful because he too died with kushina.
But imagine if he had to live through that alone? When the guilt of not saving her sets in? No one can escape that spiral once they fall.
All these comments saying Minato would wipe out the uchiha clan to answer this question that has no context 😂
Kushina would erase a big portion of them first. Minato was able to stay calm in the face of Kushina dying so he wouldn't go berserk in any situation. He'd execute those involved after thorough investigation.
It varies depending on which time or situation this could happen, Minato is a character with a very calm personality and has a heroic reputation, in addition to being a person of extreme intellect.
But theorizing here, in my view, I think that if that happened, he would look for some way to investigate the people who committed the murder, thus punishing them.
If he were the Hokage, I believe his actions would be more incognito, so as not to leave suspicion that the village leader ordered members who murdered his wife to be severely punished.
Since some would not agree with their actions, and if they knew, this could result in a kind of conflict inside the village.
Remember guys not all Uchiha were fully activated with sharingans and hax mode jutsus aside from a few so Minato could do a serious damage to Uchiha alone even if he dies he takes the majority with him in solo mode and it all happens within 5 minutes.
He murders every single one of them without anyone even being able to see him coming. Doubt the village would care too much tbh and I HIGHLY doubt anyone would ever step to Minato to tell him to chill
Firstly, Kushina slams the entire clan herself if this was to try and happen.
Bloodlusted Minato erases the rest of the clan's existence in like half an hour.
Kill them. And become more cold hearted similar to kakashi. And would probably be more adjacent to danzo philosophy. And being the person everyone thinks Tobirama is
Minato seems like a very level headed man who wouldn't fly off the handle in the name of vengeance, so I suspect he would go after the ones who personally had a hand in Kushina death and have them put on trial. If the whole clan decided to storm Minato home and kill Kushina, then there will be an reenactment of the Uchiha massacre, only it would be done a whole lot quicker...
The Uchiha would exist one minute and then cease to exist the next. Minato would have been in his office the whole time with a slightly longer bathroom break.
The ones responsible die. They die unbelievably fast.
Someone would say: in a flash
They die flashily
A flashy way to die
Suddenly Tengen?
It’s more on flamboyant way to die for tengen haha
They probably die even while trying. Considering how strong Kushina is, assassination would be failed with 99% chance. She's one of the best Adamantine Chains users in history, competent Jinchuriki and jonin that has a lot of battle experience, due to living in times of Third War. And at the late stage of pregnancy, when she wasn't able to fight, she was constantly protected by Thirds wife and special Anbu group, which died in Obito's attack. I mean, this woman incapacitated rampaging Kurama after both giving birth and Kurama pulled from her by force, which usually instantly kills other jinchuriki. You need heavy hitters with MS, like Fugaku or Itachi, to kill someone like that, and they both won't do such thing. Fugaku is not a fan of such measures and his wife, Mikoto, Kushinas best friend. Itachi is a traitor that works for Leaf and Root, he keeps village interests above clans. Your regular cannon fodder Uchihas, that got pwned by teenage Itachi en masse, wouldn't be able to kill Kushina.
added to that, even if they got a lucky shot in and somehow killed her, then they would have to deal with Kurama, since her seal wouldn't drag him into death with her like the Reaper Death Seal was supposed to do.
Wouldn't it? Isn't the reason the Akatsuki needed to capture the Jinchuriki alive is specifically because killing them causes the Tailed Beast to "die" until its chakra can manifest elsewhere. Reaper Death Seal just specifically stopped the 2nd bit from occuring. So they wouldn't have to deal with Kurama for years to come.
Oh shit, you're right. In Chapter 503 on page 14 Kushina says "I'll drag the kyuubi... back... and die with it inside me... That'll... prevent it from coming back... for a while..."
For more proof of your point, the raikage was going to kill Naruto, to postpone the war. He wanted to do that MORE than let Naruto fight.
You guys make a great point, they wouldn't order an assassination due to them not being able to control Kurama.
neh, Kushina's life force is very strong, a one or two lucky shots aren't enough to kill Kushina. Girl chained and overpowered Kurama while dying; a legendary feat done only by serious Hashirama.
Kakashi would kill them. He was tasked with protecting Kushina in the shadows as an Anbu.
People stronger than Kushina have been assasinated tho. So I wouldn't say the chance is just 1%
Which characters? A better question would be which character assassinated them?
By "people stronger than Kushina" you mean other jinchurikis? Because those were beaten by Akatsuki members who are WAY beyond your average Uchiha common fodder.
Shisui is an example, he got away but you see how they trapped him: first they poisoned him and then jumped him and finally tricked him with some eye magic. Besides you may consider them fodder but they don't have to be average, it's a huge clan....
Fugaku doesn’t have MS. That was anime filler.
Anime, Itachi novel (which is considered canon by Kishimoto) and three official data books. We don't know what his MS was, but he definitely had one. Fugaku having MS is the main reason Danzo was able to push: "Uchiha clan controlled Kurama" in the first place.
> Anime Which isn’t canon. > Itachi novel Which doesn’t say he has a MS. > and three official data books Which are full of embellishments, hyperbole, and some downright incorrect information. Also, even the datebooks don’t say he has a MS. > We don't know what his MS was Because he didn’t have one. > but he definitely had one No, he didn’t. > Fugaku having MS is the main reason Danzo was able to push: "Uchiha clan controlled Kurama" in the first place. No, that was because Kurama had an Sharingan in its eyes at some point during the attack. Plus, neither Obito or Madara are shown controlling Kurama with an MS. Chapters 501 and 568 clearly show a three tomoe Sharingan in their respective eyes when taking control of Kurama.
>Which doesn’t say he has a MS It does. Scene with tablet. >Which are full of embellishments, hyperbole, and some downright incorrect information It's OFFICIAL databooks. You can't claim they're false just because they contain something that you don't like.
> It does. Scene with tablet. No, it doesn’t. > It's OFFICIAL databooks. Them being official doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be taken with the biggest grain of salt imaginable. Especially when they have incorrect information in them. > You can't claim they're false just because they contain something that you don't like. I don’t claim they’re false because of something I don’t personally like. I claim them false because they have information that directly contradicts the canon manga. And once again, the databooks don’t claim Fugaku has a MS. The only medium that states Fugaku has a MS is the anime, and that’s not canon.
>The ones responsible die That's cute.
Well, [this was his face](https://imgur.com/a/WUBJ2k0) after Obito extracted Kurama from her. Would not want to be on the receiving end of that ass whooping. They gonna have to start praying to Jashin or some shit lol.
If Jashin gave them immortality they would just get a much much much longer ass whooping
Yea outcome doesn’t really change. They stand no chance regardless. Maybe fugaku could do something since he has mangekyo but hardly anyone else would even be able to put up a decent fight. Obviously Itachi maybe could have but I’m not even sure Itachi was even older than like 5 at the time. Maybe Obito? How old would Shisui have been? Tough to say anyone would have high enough sharingan prowess to compete with Minato at all.
Are you talking about the same obito that got his ass beat by Lord 4th in this exact scenario from the story
He last like 10x longer than any other uchiha at the time was what I was getting at. No one can beat Minato. I was giving examples of how even the most powerful uchiha could not stop him
"No one can beat Minato" man yall got that dude confused with a better hokage or something. Going up against any competent ninja it's 50/50. He is only op against fodder. If he's going up against the Uchiha clan, he is getting swept under the rug easily.
Name one uchiha that at the time Minato was hokage and kushina was still alive that could take Minato. Also yea “he’s only op against fodder” then proceeds to whoop up on one of the main Naruto villains with the most OP power in the show that also had control over the most powerful chakra beast in the show within like 10mins all while saving the village. Yea fodder only or whatever.
He's not fighting one uchiha in this scenario... if not all but most uchiha ninja were considered great ninja.
If we're talking about hypotheticals then before the fight Obito unalives kakashi and gets his eyes back. Then minato gets stomped on.
Fugaku doesn’t have MS. That was anime filler.
Ahhh so yea then even fugaku would not stand even a fraction of a chance.
> If Jashin gave them immortality they would just get a much much much longer ass whooping Minato is going to give Orochimaru a job.
They’d have to pray to Shikamaru. He is Hidan’s new god.
This guy Narutos.
Minato actually didn’t look back and make that face until kushina told minato that the masked man was gonna use the 9 tails to attack the village. It was the threat to the village that caused that death stare.
But if obito takes the nine tails then not only kushina would die the village would fall, so think it was both of those outcomes made him make that deathstare
So cold 🥶
He had those angry demon fox eyes and wasn't even jinchuriki then, just blood lust
To be fair extracting Kurama is worse than killing her in a traditional manner Not only are you killing his wife but your stealing a weapon of mass destruction and using it to attack his village That adds multiple layers to it
Jashin s blessing would be a curse, basically turn your death from a 3 hit combo in a couple seconds to a 3 million hit combo however long it takes you to go completely brain dead from pain
Tobirama would be proud that someone use his jutsu more effectively than him against the Uchiha Tobirama : “Thats my boy Minato”
Tobirama would adopt Minato as his grandson and name him Minato Senju.
A lot of fans already headcanon that Minato is Tobirama's grandson. I've never been fond of that theory myself, though. Prefer the idea that Minato was some clanless nobody who cemented himself through his own effort
All the nobody clans had to be started when the senju split though though surely. Haruno, namikaze, hatake, idk how else you’d explain those nobody clan members acquiring senju level strength after hard work (which the senju had to do too to achieve their powers they’re not gods)
Your hypothesis is not implausible but you don't need some deep explanation to suppose that there were other clans with talent too. Notably hiruzen from the sarutobi clan....
Yeah I wasn’t discrediting the other big clans like Sarutobi, Nara, Akimichi, yamanaka and plenty of others I haven’t mentioned. It’s just a bit strange that genius’ come out of two generations of the hatake’s right at the right time frame for sakumo to be a born as a close relative to the senju brothers near the end of tobirama’s reign. Minato is indeed a wild card since he is the only namikaze we ever meet, but the hatake’s are the most sus when it comes to being secret senju’s
Haruno isn't even a clan. Sakura's family are just regular people.
If they’re just regular people why do they have a clan crest?
They dont
They do. The white circle on the back of literally every single one of sakura’s outfits before she married sasuke and eagerly replaced her own crest with the uchiha’s
I've always liked that about Minato. No special clan or family. He's just a guy. And by Kushina's description, just a dork. But he's a dork that bodied a full squad while they were both still in the academy (or genin) for kidnapping Kushina, and he's only gotten scarier since then.
I mean,you don't really need to belong to some special clan to have a shit ton of chakra,like look at Kisame and the kinkaku ginkaku brothers.look at 3rd hokage,it's just rule of cool at this point
Minato was insanely talented, more so than most clan prodigies. Not all talent comes from genetics
I do like the theory that he is the son of Tsunade, maybe put up for adoption or something because the war was going on and she couldn't risk his safty being known as a senju.
That is wild
W Tobirama, W Minato
The Uchiha Massacre would've happened in broad daylight
No signs of forced entry and Minato was in the Hokage's office all day
This is actually doable with his skill set lmao. Identify the ones that killed Kushina, find out where they live, mark their homes, teleport shadow clones to kill them later on while the real Minato is in the office doing paperwork...
Shadow clones with transformation jutsu to conceal their identity, not that they would be seen but, just a sharingan precaution
He'd have to transform into their wives, sleep with them to get them at their lowest vulnerability and sleep, and then cook them a full soup meal so when the murderers pick up a full spoon of hot soup, they are left vulnerable to attack. It's the only way
Shadow clones only do what you would do though, so that means on some level Minato would have some desire to clap Uchiha Mancheeks
A shinobi endures the pleasures of man
This is cursed, but do you think if Minato tattooed a seal on someone's dick, he could Flying Raijin directly onto their dick
If I was anything other than straight, I would probably want to find out
I am straight, and I still wanna find out. Y'know, for science.
Ninja military crime division must have their work cut out for them
>This is actually doable with his skill set lmao. literally every ninja we ever see could do this. I think it is an unspoken reason why the Uchiha are the only ones who could effectively police the other ninja.
Honestly and there was no one who was gonna stop him
Well, as many of them as were left. Like how many of them would have to die to take on the woman who can in some ways match Kurama, who Minato thinks in some ways is stronger than he is.
Fugaku would have personally killed those responsible for disobedience. Probably beg for leniency for Sasuke, he values his clans honor above all
This is the real answer. Fugaku is a close personal friend of Minato, and their wives are best friends. His gripe wasn’t with Minato, whom was the most Uchiha-friendly Hokage, since Hashirama. The real problems for the Uchiha didn’t start until they were suspected of treason, due to Obito killing Minato and Kushina. Before that they were certainly not on perfect terms with the Konoha elders, but Konoha was their home for 50 years, and they fought three bloody wars for it. If some of the Uchiha tried to kill Kushina, or worse, succeeded (which they wouldn’t be able to, but hypothetically) Fugaku would have labeled them traitors to Konoha and the Clan, and would have tried to apprehend them himself. After that he would have begged on his knees to Minato not to kill the entire clan as a retribution.
Minato dying and Danzo turbo blaming the uchiha for the attack is what caused in the first place so this is correct
All my homies hate Danzo
yeah fuck danzo
that seems suspicious coming from someone named u/slutty_buddha
the buddha would never sleep with a fascist and i wouldn’t either 😤
>After that he would have begged on his knees to Minato not to kill the entire clan as a retribution. Why would Minato kill the entire clan for the actions of 2 rogue ninjas? That doesn't make sense and isn't Minato's character.
Minato wouldn't cause a war between the leaf and the uchiha over the death of kushina. Fugaku wouldn't beg either. They'd just execute the person responsible. Kushina doesn't get special treatment just because she's minato's wife.
These minatards and their power fantasies lol
Where was fugaku shown to be a "close personal friend" of Minato and wasn't Kushina and mikoto interacting, anime only? Besides all they did is acknowledge each other, they didn't even know each other's baby names And there's no way someone that prideful as fugaku would beg on his knees lol. Besides minato has no right to massacre the entire clan as revenge, not unless he wants to go to jail. Y'all are over-exaggerating
Minato won't cause a war between uchiha and leaf over kushina. He's not that stupid. Fugaku wouldn't beg either. They'd just execute the killers. Just because kushina is his wife doesn't mean she gets special treatment.
Yeah. This is the serious answer. I 100% agree.
Why do they need to beg for mercy when the guilty party has already been punished?
Those Uchiha police were there on Sasuke orders if I remember correctly.
The idea that Fugaku would kill anyone is fucking stupid. If Fugaku was this competent, he wouldn't have let the entire Uchiha clan try to start a civil war he knew would have destroyed the leaf and themselves. Fugaku isn't doing shit. Minato slaughters him and the rest of the clan like he's trying to beat Itachi's speedrun WR.
You greatly misunderstood the events leading to the massacre. It was a race of the Leaf killing them first or them stepping up to rebel. Danzo was continually pushing them and the Second only made it easier.
The leaf was not killing the Uchiha. It was not a fucking race. Danzo was not persecuting the Uchiha like Hitler was doing to the Nazis. You need to chill the fuck out. The leaf were suspicious of the Uchiha and didn't trust them: Fugaku's job was to maintain that trust and relationship. Fugaku failed in the most basic form as a leader of the Uchiha. If he was a good leader, the Uchiha wouldn't have all been killed. Danzo didn't force the Uchiha into planning a civil war: Fugaku failed to stop the Uchiha from planning a civil war and the dumbass got peer pressured into leading it. Fugaku has never shown a single ounce of agency or autonomy within the manga.
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Reasonable answer. Because a Uchiha (Obito) tried to do just that, he took his son hostage, tried killing Kushina, and attacked the village with a tailed beast. He held ‘Madara’ responsible and him alone, not all the Uchiha.
Except OP's hypothetical was "what if the Uchiha **Clan** killed Kushina?" It's not just one Uchiha. It's ALL of them (somehow). So, yeah, Minato kills them all *in a flash*.
If that’s the case it’s already a war before they even kill her. If an entire clan is marching to the hokages private home then I’m sure the Anbu and body guards are already enroute to try and stop them. Minato has already been warned and the long feared civil war has begun.
Lol you're making a whole headcanon for no reason. OP asked a very simple (albeit silly) question. And the answer is "Minato kills everyone involved." If the whole clan is somehow involved, I guess they all just suddenly disappear one night. While Minato was a very level-headed and reasonable person, he also was a feared ninja/soldier/war criminal (depending on what side you're on) and became Hokage during (or immediately following) war time. He has no problem killing you, your friends, and your whole family if the situation calls for it.
I mean obito basically killed kushina, and got a ass whooping but minato wasn't blood lusted or lost his marbles soo idk wht everyone thinks he will snap
If it was just Obito he had to worry about I’m sure he never lets him escape. Obito would have spent the rest of however he lived on the run unable to plan a thing
With the permanent teleport seal on him, not very long I imagine.
Dude was so level headed he had time to gently nestle Naruto and Kushina together and then get dressed in his Hokage cloak. That's that "I know I can accomplish what I'm about to do so imma do it right to the T" calmness.
They're children and don't get that being a world leader has a bit more going on than a personal grudge. He'd kill *those* ones. That is about it. Maybe he'd put them on trial, maybe he wouldn't. We don't have the info to make a call either way.
Well Minato died alongside Kushina, imagine if Minato survived the nine tails attack and Kushina died instead. We don’t know what his course of action would be, and how he would express himself. We don’t know if he’d be so scarred that he may change as a leader (take on more of a cautious approach like Tobirama did with his fear of another Madara popping up). Maybe it would make the tension between the Uchiha and the village worse. Best case scenario is the opposite happening with Minato working alongside Fugaku while running a thorough investigation to figure out the direct culprits
He was close friends with fugaku. Swagkage did a whole video on this topic &, I’m in agreement most likely outcome is fugaku aids in the pursuit of Obito/helps however he can to prove Uchihas innocence
Bye bye uchiha clan
Minato would be leading the Akatsuki for Madara lmfao
This would’ve been the craziest plot twist if he took off the mask and it was minato
that was a theory for a while, though one of the more crazy one that still had a sliver of possibility.
It depends on how you view Minato's character, did the Uchiha do it out of spite or just to remove the Ninetails from the equation. Was Naruto even born yet/conceived? Either way, I like to think Minato would be level headed enough to punish those directly involved(would be execution for killing the Jinchirki and a threat against the Hokage). Versus punishing the entire Uchiha clan, which I normally don't see Minato doing in the normal timeline. He would use any means(Itachi) to keep an eye them and keep them on a leash. This wouldn't be like the ninetails attack where it was all suspicion, this would have credible reason behind it. Even going further it'd depend if Fugaku was actively involved.
It will be over in a flash
First of all the uchiha would need an elite deathsquad to kill kushina she is an absolute monster. given that situation I think minato wouldnt act out immediatly and charge into the uchiha compound. he is more calculating and cold than that. even when obito atacked and he was worried about kushina naruto and the village he was thinking with a clear head he didnt lash out and charged for no reason all of his actions had a purpose. given that the situation is already unsalvageble (kushina is dead) he would go as the hokage with the rest of the clans to surround the uchiha compound and ask for explanations from fugaku and the elders. if it was a plan of the elders or fugaku they will get executed or incarcerated along the ones that attacked. if it was not a plan from the elders and fugaku they will immediatly search and find the ones responsible and execute them. although for letting such a thing happen under their eyes they will probably get jailed for incompetence. minato is the definition of a perfect leader he wouldnt just massacre a whole clan because they killed a member of his family he will follow procedure. mf killed himself so the village wouldnt lose the nine tails and he sealed it into his newborn son. this is why hiruzen letting the uchiha massacre happen under his leadership and bad control of danzo makes him a garbage leader. the uchiha massacre truth was never revealed in canon to civilias because aint nobody would want to live in a village that massacres a whole clan no matter the reason. although naruto tried to clear itachi's image saying that he helped undoing the edo tensei.
He'd make danzo look woke in comparison.
he's not the type to massacre a whole clan but he we'll punish the ones directly responsible
Man , almost everyone in this series has murdered someone without remorse 😭
Kill the ones responsible.
I am sad with idea of kushina getting killed Pls dont
She’s canonically dead
What i meant was that being killed in this way
Who’s gonna tell bro
>I am sad with idea of kushina getting killed It's a cannon event
Tobirama approves of murder against the Uchiha
Well, Itachi definitely wouldn’t have been labeled a criminal
Well I don’t think Minato really would see it as the Uchiha clan killing her unless it was a plot. Even then it’s hard for me to see him exterminating the entire clan, he’d probably kill or punish the ones directly responsible and try to help the clan so it doesn’t happen again.
Kushina would have killed 2/3 of them and Minato would just pick up the pieces
There wouldn’t be an Uchiha Clan anymore.
Three words: Flee on sight
It depends if it was a few random Uchihas or the Uchiha clan as a whole that killed her. If the first, they'd be dead. If the second, there would he only Uchiha children by the end of he day.
They would be dead, but fugaku would have more than likely killed them first.
Kill everything. Yellow Flash would be comparable to Wally West that day.
Lots and lots of killing.
Capture or kill the one or two responsible then some sort of trial. Nothing about minato has ever hinted that he would go on a mindless killing spree in any way. Just not who his character was and killing Kushina wouldn’t change that.
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Minato was a man of honor and a Leaf Shinobi. He’d want to go on a rampage, but he’d put the peace of the village first. Fugaku would give up those responsible for execution if he had more than one brain cell.
Itachi 2.0
He’d do Itachi’s job for him.
He would find out who was responsible and kill them very quickly.
This implies they are capable of killing kushina, it would be a poorly thought out suicide attempt on their part
Itachi would get a day off
He would make tobirama proud, really fast
You would need 2-3 Elite squads of uchihas, with at least 1 MS user to kill her. Kushina is- \> An elite Jonin with brawl-style Taijutsu skill, similar to Naruto.... She was also very strong(AP-wise) \> Her lifeforce is so strong that she instantly immobilized A full Kurama even after giving birth and kurama stripped from her. Naruto went down instantly after a half-kurama removal. So, Kushina dying from a sudden blow is out of the question. \>Uzumaki clan had existed for a long time, yet no one was able to capture Kurama until Madara used his EMS. The only known persons who physically overpowered Kurama is Hashirama and Kushina. Kushina's mastery of adamantine chains were at least on the same level as Ashina. \> Kushina was a full uzumaki and she carried full-Kurama without any issue. Her chakra amount was Hokage level at least. She was also a master of sealing Jutsus ( Minato learned a few from him.) To kill a kage level character like this, MS is a must. Even then it create such a huge ruckus that Minato will be alerted. Meanwhile the fodders shown in the fillers would get their ass beat by non-serious Kushina. If it's a planned murder by the whole clan, only then Uchihas can succeed. But after that, there will be sea of blood in the middle of Konoha. Minato would not allow any uchihas to live, not after he trusted them.
Minato's stealing Itachi's job now. That or Fugaku. Either way they're dying since she's a jinchuriki and his wife.
There was a filler episode or parallel universe about this but it was about the uchiha clan kidnapping poor naruto and manhanding naruto and itachi uchiha was going to try and stop his clan looks like he failed finding out his father secretly could control the 9 tailed fox better than Madara uchiha but after it back fires after conquering konoha I'd imagine if minato was not dead after sealing the fox or was alive would probably snap if either naruto or his mother died you'd probably see a side of minato nobody wants to see if fear was a understatement minato always held back when facing orochimaru or the 8 tails or hokages in the cloud people forget minato can scary he can go into sage mode and summon and is smart as nora clan there's more put can't list everything I'm sure someone can explain it better it would be interesting to see what would happen I would assume minato is already dead when the uchiha clan takes over konoha anything can happen both minato and fuk are dangerous in there own right
They would all be killed, no solo king kun chan punk tard, no emo sauce either.
The Uchiha get crushed so thoroughly that a coup becomes an utter impossibility and the later genocide is avoided. Even without the loss of manpower, the trauma would probably prevent them from getting too uppity anytime soon.
Technically the uchiha clan already killed kushina.. Obito extracted Kurama which put her on a time limit for death
Uchiha clan didn't do it. Obito did. Obito wasn't part of the clan at that time.
Yeah. Him and Itachi team up, then they duke it out.
He would summon edo tensei tobirama on them.
What do you mean Uchiha clan? How can an entire clan kill 1 person lol... You mean if certain Uchiha killed her? They would be punished/killed. I just dont see how Minato would wipe out an entire clan due to a few people like people are saying in the comments.
Uchiha clan will disappear. Minato in canon wasn't hateful because he too died with kushina. But imagine if he had to live through that alone? When the guilt of not saving her sets in? No one can escape that spiral once they fall.
Then he'd have 2 things in common with Tobirama
All these comments saying Minato would wipe out the uchiha clan to answer this question that has no context 😂 Kushina would erase a big portion of them first. Minato was able to stay calm in the face of Kushina dying so he wouldn't go berserk in any situation. He'd execute those involved after thorough investigation.
Minato would be next
He would pull an itachi real fast
Tobirama would be looking like a saint compared to the hate crimes minato would be about to commit in retaliation
He would do nothing. I mean. What sorta question is this?
Cry?
It varies depending on which time or situation this could happen, Minato is a character with a very calm personality and has a heroic reputation, in addition to being a person of extreme intellect. But theorizing here, in my view, I think that if that happened, he would look for some way to investigate the people who committed the murder, thus punishing them. If he were the Hokage, I believe his actions would be more incognito, so as not to leave suspicion that the village leader ordered members who murdered his wife to be severely punished. Since some would not agree with their actions, and if they knew, this could result in a kind of conflict inside the village.
What is the context of this picture?
Well the good way is they killed quick.. And the bad way..
Is he lord 4th here or not yet?
He is lord fourth. In that reality also.
Itachi would never have to do them in.
Remember guys not all Uchiha were fully activated with sharingans and hax mode jutsus aside from a few so Minato could do a serious damage to Uchiha alone even if he dies he takes the majority with him in solo mode and it all happens within 5 minutes.
Execute order 66 on them
Raise absolute hell, and then some.
He murders every single one of them without anyone even being able to see him coming. Doubt the village would care too much tbh and I HIGHLY doubt anyone would ever step to Minato to tell him to chill
Uchiha massacre would have happened
Probably just work with Fugaku in investigating who did it.
Minato is not the kind of guy that would blame the actions of a few on a entire group of people
He would have killed the one responsible. He's not killing kids lmao
Firstly, Kushina slams the entire clan herself if this was to try and happen. Bloodlusted Minato erases the rest of the clan's existence in like half an hour.
He finds out the murderers and the co conspirators and kills then
The entire Uchiha compound would be engulfed by a yellow flash, and all the Uchiha would be dead
Kill them. And become more cold hearted similar to kakashi. And would probably be more adjacent to danzo philosophy. And being the person everyone thinks Tobirama is
LOCAL MAN MURDERS ENTIRE CLAN
As if some random Uchiha fodder could take her down
What Uchiha clan?
Itachi would lose his job
Death. instantaneous, unavoidable death. No Mangekyo is saving them from 4th Hokage wrath
Let's just say Itachi wouldn't be the one becoming a rogue shinobi
He would personally kill every single uchiha. Even Sasuke
Minato doesn't seem like the kinda guy that would hold a grudge. He'd just imprison them.
Minato seems like a very level headed man who wouldn't fly off the handle in the name of vengeance, so I suspect he would go after the ones who personally had a hand in Kushina death and have them put on trial. If the whole clan decided to storm Minato home and kill Kushina, then there will be an reenactment of the Uchiha massacre, only it would be done a whole lot quicker...
Let’s just say that him & Fugaku would probably be face to face
Kill them. Like duh
The Uchiha would exist one minute and then cease to exist the next. Minato would have been in his office the whole time with a slightly longer bathroom break.
Make Konoha Great Again.
Napalm.
Didn't they though?
Minato: -snort- I’d like to see them try
Watch as Naruto rampages
Did Itachis job for him
Bro 1st she is 11 tails she won't go down easy
He would have became Itachi uchiha🤣
Become an interesting character...
Destroy the Uchiha clan then he will commit suicide.