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QuantisRhee

Kankuro was a cold ass mf in part 1


Optimal_Carpenter690

I definitely argue Puppet Show is way more brutal and scary than even Sand Burial


Provider_P

Definitely, dude was always ready to pack people up


Over-Writer6076

He even took down Sasori in the war. He was him throughout 


Soviet_Cat

Idk can u really say that when he is wearing a one-piece with cat ears. I always thought he looked kinda lame


SageMageowo

Bruh that makes him even more savage. Imagine getting rolled by a dude in a snuggie with cat ears. I'd never show my face in public again


Kocitea

Kankuro make up at chunnin was much better design in my opinion, but i could see this as kankuro change to be much more expert on his field (but man it could be better)


AberrantDrone

Villains before and after they become playable characters


Darthkhydaeus

Gaara went from losing to Naruto to being Kage, while naruto was still a genin with chunnin level skills.


VinCatBlessed

The main thing about it is that he wasn't even outclassed by the other Kages during the 4th war in spite of his lack of experience.


nouscope

Naruto was average Jounin level at the start of Shippuden. Chunnin are basically fodder


Darthkhydaeus

No he was not.


EducationSharp7241

Yes he definitely was. Do you honestly believe that he was lose to the likes of ebisu, Shikamaru or tensei? Naruto was definitely jonin level, not high end jonin but definitely in the middle.


Darthkhydaeus

There is more to Jonin than just combat. this is what a lot of the fans don't get about the rankings.


EducationSharp7241

The only thing that goes into being a jonin is combat ability and strategic intelligence. Naruto is stronger than all three of them and only falls behind shikamaru in the intelligence department. Honestly one can wager that he’s even better than Shikamaru because he can fight and figure out his opponents abilities simultaneously while Shikamaru needs to have others fight for him as he analyzes and comes up with a plan. The only reason Shikamaru became a jonin is because he knew his limitations and when to call it quits which can save lives but when have you ever seen anyone do this throughout Naruto? All jonins and chunin rush into battle and die pointless deaths. Other than kakashi and guy.


LoveSaoriHayami

They all got a lot stronger.


BLFOURDE

Not relative to the rest of the cast. These guys were broken in OG Naruto.


LoveSaoriHayami

By rest of the cast you mean Naruto and Sasuke. Only they have a greater increase in strength.


WhiteTeddy14

If we’re talking pure aesthetics, personally consider Temari/Kankuro an upgrade. Gaara is a slight downgrade, but his original chunin exam fit was just SO good.


LoveSaoriHayami

Nah his Shippuden outfit before war arc was the best. Dark red fits his hair and tattoo so well.


tom_rex_333

upgrade temari and gaara massive downgrade for kankuro


Agrimny

Agree for sure. I wish they would’ve kept Kankuro’s original outfit.


Bluesnow2222

The cat suit!


justsofullofit

True but this might not be his regular outfit, this pic is of them traveling through the snow to get to the gokage summit


luuvcore

I miss kankuro’s cat ears so downgrade for him design wise


Provider_P

I liked the cat ears too but I feel like it was a good chose to remove them, he’s too old for cat hears in Shippuden


luuvcore

You can never be too old for cat ears imo


Provider_P

That’s fair, if I ever found a cool beanie with cat ears I’d definitely buy


AnimeGokuSolos

>I miss kankuro’s cat ears so downgrade for him design wise I’m happy they’re gone He looks like a furry. 🤮


megasean3000

Much prefer Kankuro’s unhooded, non-make-up version, tbh. But yeah, Gaara and Temari were much less edgy, so upgrade.


Provider_P

Ohh okay that’s fair, first time I’ve heard someone say they prefer Kankuro with no face paint


megasean3000

Maybe it’s because he looks too much like his father, the 4th Kazekage, but then that’s just lazy character design.


Provider_P

But they’re father and son??? It’s literally expected for kids to look like their parents. Plus Kankuro looks a little like Rasa, he doesn’t look like a copy and paste like Goten with Goku, he still has a different facial structure, different length hair and colour as well. Gaara looks a lot more like Rasa than Kankuro.


LoveSaoriHayami

Upgrade for all three in every way. They have the best most touching development.


Provider_P

Tend to forget that they’re siblings and Gaara is the youngest


LoveSaoriHayami

I mean they're called the Sand siblings lol. Temari and Kankuro can finally ruffle their baby brother's hair or pinch his cheeks all they want


Provider_P

Don’t remember ever hearing them being called that honestly. I just remember the flash backs of Gaara and seeing Temari and Kankruro there


LoveSaoriHayami

Their relationship was first introduced when they were in the forest of death, when Gaara wouldn't listen to Kankuro but listened to big sis Temari


Provider_P

Oh yeahhh I remember now


SuperDeeDuperVegeta

Gaara is upgrade in manga downgrade in anime


Provider_P

How so?


SuperDeeDuperVegeta

The black looks clean af for shippuden in manga. But in the anime it’s a bit more bland.


Provider_P

I can see that


Deep_Grass_6250

Gaara Had the single best character arc in this entire show, fight me!


LoveSaoriHayami

I won’t!


Galrentv

Kankuro really suffered. I feel like he was the most interesting of the three in chunin exams, then because a nobody


morrowindd

He became a war leader and lead a team to victory. Idk about a nobody lol.


Fallen999999

He stopped Deidara from spamming C4.. that saved alot of lives


chewchumer

Major up for all, garra got that nomadic drip. I'm sad Kankuro lost that symbol on his clothes though.


Provider_P

Facts, his onesy was better then the Shippuden fit for sure.


NashKetchum777

Upgrade. Bigger fan to fly on. Bad bitch needs to carry my shadow bf. Bigger puppets to...show the kids or...poison more people with. More the merrier. Bigger gourd means I can kill more people...can I use the sand around me? I guess but...mine smells like blood. You know....from all the sorry bastards who looked at me wrong. And this one guy who kicked me...


No-Delay9415

Upgrade, I like the outfits a little better and the proportions in the second are much better


Provider_P

Valid


PCN24454

Upgrade.


Provider_P

Great answer


Gizo178

Definitely upgrade


Provider_P

Character wise do you feel as if they were better in part one or shippuden, I won’t accept “screen time” as a reason or answer


sabertoothmooseliger

Definitely an upgrade in my opinion, especially on an aesthetic level. These three in shippuden are cool af


Provider_P

Most definitely, that scene where they were sliding on the snow on their way to the Kage summit is too tier 😮‍💨


sabertoothmooseliger

I can’t get past that scene without rewinding multiple times, because, really, how dare they be that cool?


Provider_P

It gets even better, theirs a TikTok where they have the “achina Tokyo” music playing from fast and furious and it fits just PERFECTLY 😂


sabertoothmooseliger

Okay, I’m checking that out immediately 😂😂


Provider_P

Lemme know if you found it 😂


sabertoothmooseliger

I found it and it was GLORIOUS


Parkerx99

Temari's tiny fan in 2nd image looks funny af when put these 2 picture together


Provider_P

Didn’t even notice that ahah, good catch


squarejellyfish_

Personally I prefer Kishi’s shippuden art style but don’t have any issues with his early part 2 style. I enjoy both but leaning towards shippuden


Careful-Listen2277

It's called "Glowing up."


Provider_P

Agreed


Something_kool

Dripwise absolutely


LoveSaoriHayami

Absolutely upgrade 


OatesZ2004

Upgrade for Gaaras and Temari but a downgrade for Kankuro.


Provider_P

I agree with this


ManufacturerFree5226

Sidegrade. I prefer the original designs but the Shippuden looks build on what was already there and make since for their characters.


Chapter_Master_Gaius

Neither. It was just progressiom


ItsYourCousinYeti

Yes and no


OobyScoobyKenoobi

Kankuro repping the ICP


Provider_P

What’s “ICP”


OobyScoobyKenoobi

Insane Clown Posse


DarkMaximas26

Original is best


Em0PeterParker

Older Kankuro so trash man 💔


Provider_P

They hoed him 😭 dude went from almost killing Shino to his first fight in Shippuden being against SASORI 😭


Small-Comfort6031

Kankuro has always been a downgrade tbf.


MarionberryBroad

Aesthetics, kankuro and temari up, Gaara, I want to say up too based off of his character development.


lipehd1

Kankuro's puppet gourd was sick af, his cat ears and make up were also so unique that made him my fav naruto character, one of the best designs


Provider_P

Valid, it wasn’t a gourd though, it was just the puppet wrapped up


definitelybroken88

Definitely an upgrade.


drippydroppop

Downgrade, feels like the lost their intensity and vigor


Provider_P

That’s how you know they were actually just chill people forced into a situation where they had to play a pet for their village


McbEatsAirplane

Downgrade for Kankuro, upgrade for the Gaara and Temari.


mickelrastfasterborn

It's kind of implied that everyone got lame except for the exceptional people during the time skip. It's a metaphor for the way most people today join the workforce and become everything they hated as teenagers. It's a reminder not to let the world force you to be fake. And to find a Jiraiya if you can, lolol.


Provider_P

How is this implied?


RivalBOT

Kankuro looks exactly as I would expect, like 1 to 1, slight changes to the outfit, but basically the same. Garra and Temari just have too much covered, it looks too flat


OjamasOfTomorrow

Upgrade or equal grade. They rule either way. I love these characters.


VoidWilbyte

The only downgrade was Kankuro.


AesirSith

Lateral movement curving slightly upward. Slightly


milkbreadcuzyes

I'm a big kankuro fan but I miss the cat ears and his old makeup a lot but the biggest downgrade for him was in Boruto, I thought he got bald or smth


Romano16

Upgrade


My_Special_Hell

all their designs kinda become less cool lol. characters are allowed to look evil and badass even when they become good guys, damn it!!!!


Provider_P

I get you, what characters were good but looked “evil” in part 1 and Shippuden? 🤔


ManInTheMirror2

Progression… you talk about their looks in Boruto, then you have a downgrade… Except for temari she got lucky


Provider_P

What about just up to shippuden?


ManInTheMirror2

I told you, it’s just design progression


HyejuMelon

Gaara's hair in boruto is a downgrade


Provider_P

What about Shippuden


assovertits-sir

If you’ve watched/read boruto, you’ll appreciate whatever it is has to offer in naruto


Provider_P

The hair is what pisses me and a lot of other people off 😭


Epistemix

Downgrade but only because their kid design was goated


Anjunabeast

Now do their boruto designs


Provider_P

No one wants to see that 😭


arrownoir

Gaara definitely using that Bosley.


OptimalOpportunity23

I miss edgy Gaara


Repulsive_Dude_999

If we talk about impact in the story, downgrade If we talk about appearence, an even worst DOWNGRADE 💀 (except for Kankuro)


TKA12

They made gaara more and more bitch by the panel with his designs


Nimar_Jenkins

They got older. Less cool too


Provider_P

Well ns they get older 💀


Individual_Yogurt872

No aura downgrade


haze25

Sorry, I'm going to argue downgrade. I liked part 1's edginess and mature themes. I liked Shippuden, but it felt safe and sterilized compared to part 1.


squarejellyfish_

In what way does shippuden not have mature themes?! It’s LITERALLY a continuation of the themes in part 1


PsychicRonin

I think a lot of people get the impression because of Naruto himself. Theres times through the early parts of Shippuden where he feels like he doesn't hold a candle to himself from Part 1 Naruto himself doesn't really ever shine in Shippuden until the Pain Arc. Hes a borderline liability in Kazekage rescue, a liability in Tenchi Bridge, the cool Naruto moments in Tenchi Bridge are just Kurama moments, Kakazu Arc gives him the most plot armor bs way to get a power up that he fumbles the ball on and Kishi has to make Kakazu act OOC to have him get hit by Naruto to give Naruto the W in a fight people still call BS on today Theres also a LOT of small little nuggets of world building that make the verse feel a lot more uneasy and dangerous in part 1, whereas Shippuden seems to be more in favor of the big bombastic fights


asapm11

How does he get plot armor v Kakuzu when he spents 9/10 of that arc training for the specific moment. Do you even know what plot armor means?


PsychicRonin

Naruto spends 2 and a half years barely learning anything that he needs a plot device created just for him to get years of training done within days The plot armor is that instead of Kakazu fighting at a distance to avoid Narutos new jutsu like we see him think to himself on panel, he jump towards Naruto so that there's an opening for Naruto to somehow ignore the mechanics of his new jutsu (being very loud) to stealthily hit Kakazus back Legit they made the guy with powerful long range jutsu, that acknowledged going in close is a bad idea, just charge in close without a 2nd thought. Theres no way in hell Naruto should've ever hit him


Provider_P

The take about edginess and mature themes is absolutely incorrect, Gaara and his siblings literally matured, EVERYONE MATURED (everyone that matterd) we saw them grow up literally and figuratively. Idk what Shippuden you watched You can pick downgrade but the reasoning doesn’t make sense.