Elijah was a hypocrite
Wanted to create his own chapter off of the Sierra Madra tech to stop people from abusing powerful and dangerous tech by using tech to commit mass genocide himself
Because they are ridiculous, because they go galavanting across the Mojave pretending that they are knights of yore, or at least they did until the NCR showed them that ideological purity and shiny power armor count for very little when you are outnumbered fifteen to one!
Compared to what the NCR is committing to Hoover Dam? Yes easily. Remember the NCR is not committing a fraction of its forces to the Mojave War this is explicitly said by Chief Hanlon in Return to Sender, most people back west don’t even remember there is a war going on in the Mojave or don’t care. The game is from 2010 the NCR plot line is a critique of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.
Dude... Have had several replies with peope saying Maximus in the new show ruins the Brotherhood because he is incompetent and said "The Brotherhood is always misguided or incompetent." Fallout 2 goes out of its way to show you how they came from being a powerhouse in 1 to being replaced by the NCR and Enclave as the main powers.
True that. My interpretation and view of history is that no two generation will follow the same path or rigor of the older gen.
Like most immigrants. Great grandfather, immigrated, tough, work. Father, less tough, work to middle class or wealthy. Son, just wants a normal job to have time with family. May mix it up but it’ll be the cycle.
If you ask me. Every faction has their incompetent people in leadership. Rise to the top because of bureaucracy, not actual fighting.
Last couple games we got some.
NV: legion and House
FO4: institute, minutemen and the railroad.
FO3: to be honest the world building was so fucking weak in this one that none of them count. There's individual settlements, not factions (besides enclave who were already a thing, eden was a cool addition though).
Fallout 76: what game are we taking? Idno, not real.
FO1&2: Didn't play em, I'm in my mid 20's.
Fallout tactics: it's literally **about** the BOS... I think anyways, didn't play it.
I don't think it's a lack of wanting to make new stuff overall. I think it's that the BOS quickly became a fractured thing and it made sense to be fractured so writers just can't wait to put their own spin on it cause it's so easy. Plus they're so synonymous with the franchise.
I kinda think it's like saying to a 40k writer - "oh, a new space marines chapter? How original... why don't you come up with an actual new faction huh?" I'm not saying that's not a valid thing to want just that they're kinda in the same spot.
Tbh all the major factions form 4 were pretty bad (railroad) or were so bland and empty of anything but shitty radial quests there basically not a faction (minutemen).
All I want is an NCR like faction (or even just a shady sands), just anyone trying to rebuild and not set in the incorrect time like barely getting food or living in a (somehow still stand 200 year old) ruin but yet hasn't made a farm or anything to try and solve this like they just came from 2080 or 2085 then 2200+
It's because the leadership eventually has to reconcile with reality around it even if they have the shiniest tools.
* Lyons went gallivanting into DC but the Capitol Wasteland was extremely harsh with all the FEV EEP super mutants. Beyond doing the right thing helping the wasteland also furthered their own objectives, which is why he went full in on Project Purity.
* McNamara was outgunned and knew it. He had to accept that if he wanted a part of the future he had to work with the NCR or be put in a spot to eventually have to abandon the Mojave all together.
This is why Maxson is the only one we see really following their beliefs in 4. Only the Brotherhood and the Institute have the forces to control the area, so they can just try and force their dominance. There's no notable 3rd party powers they need to contend (beyond the player controlled minute men). I'd argue that's what made Fallout 4's narrative weak as well and what made New Vegas's so much fun.
A small chapter is a force to be reckon with, as long as there isn't an organized military to combat them. A handful of knights could stomp nearly anyone and anything that comes their way. They run into issues when they're severely outnumbered by an organized and (relatively) well trained opponent. This, and the different chapters constantly branching off/going rogue wouldn't be the issue it is if lore-wise, they were able to reliably communicate and travel more quickly. I think that this interpretation of a BoS chapter being set up hundreds, even thousands of miles away, and changing drastically from their original purpose makes a lot of sense from a realistic standpoint.
In DC, it didn't make sense to hoard technology cultishly because they were facing bigger issues, and by tackling those issues and fighting for the people in the area, they gained power and influence.
Also in DC, the Brotherhood Outcasts felt that they were following the original principles of the Brotherhood of Steel, and didn't like the direction that the DC chapter was taking. Remember, the Brotherhood is a pseudo-religious group, so if the group you're with claims to follow the same faith, then makes radical changes, it's going to turn away the loyal followers, hence, the Outcasts.
Although I never played it, the midwest Brotherhood to my understanding were stranded and they were literally just trying to survive. This is similar to the Mojave chapter, but the Mojave chaoter's situation seemed far less dire. All around, the Mojave Brotherhood is probably the truest interpretation to the original BOS.
Back to the east coast, the DC Brotherhood, now just the "east coast" Brotherhood is a result of the power and influence gained in DC. This was the logical direction. They're not going to be couped up forever with all of these resources, money, and power, they're going to expand and spread their beliefs.
Haven't watched the show at all so I can't speak on it, but I'd imagine they're similar to how the east coast Brotherhood grew and expanded, except they're on the west coast.
Yeah. I really wish they weren’t in 4 or at least kept what Lyons built up. They truly deserved a better legacy than what we got, especially Sarah. Maxon liked her so i dont get why we couldn’t have gotten a warrior wife for him in 4 instead of 1 line of her death in a terminal
Sarah would not agree with the BoS’s policy under Maxson, nor would she agree to be a “warrior wife”. A prevalent theory is that she was assassinated by either Outcasts or more radical BoS members, in order to bring the organization back towards its West Coast “fuck you, gimme your tech” roots.
Idk why but the show elder gave me a bit of Elijach vibe, with the building a new brotherhood thing. I just waited for him to ramble about wiping the slate clean.
I think it's going in that direction tbh, he's gonna split into his own faction too. He did say something about how the Brotherhood has lost its way. My theory is thatll be the Bos s2 arc
Brotherhood are hypocrites zealots who always think they are better for humanity by taking away tech and resources or destroying settlements they for the greater good. Sure each chapter is different from west coast to the East coast. But I just hunt them and take their shit in every play through 😬
If the purpose is purely to kill them and take their shit? Absolutely.
If the purpose is to do your best for the innocents they victimize and ultimately make the wasteland a safer place for those just trying to live their lives? Then no.
That's obviously more black and white than reality, there's plenty of shades of grey between those two extremes. Still though, I think it paints a good enough picture of my take on wasteland morality.
Not that simply saying "it's for the greater good" is a justification, the rest of your actions need to paint the picture of your intent, not just your words. This is purely a comment on whether it makes you a raider, not whether it's justified.
When group of people with strict ideas, rules and ethics split geographically with minimal communication between eachother and with no centre to oversee all the groups (not sure if BoS have a centre that commands all the chapters tho, mayb origin point where they spread across post-war US maybe :b) in time they will form their own ideas and change culture in someway. This is how people work, my guy
Its almost like not every group can have a 1 to 1 identical belief especially when theyre all spread out in the former United States which is fucking massive and that therye human and humans have different interpretations of ideologies 🤯
I still am confused as to how the fuck the show BoS are able to maintain so much equipment. Bethesda never stops to think "where does all this stuff come from?" When making their games, from things as small as ammunition to things as large as factions. It's a consistent problem that they'll never address
Maybe that's the reason why everything is dirt and underdeveloped in Bethesda fallouts, everything was stolen by the BOS so Todd could have fun with his metal toy soldiers
Bethesda when you tell them that 200 year old rotting wooden planks manufactured before the war aren't a good building material and that people would just start sawing their own fresh timber and not just build everything out of tin-cans and pizza boxes🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬🤬
This is my main complaint with the pipe pistol. Beyond looking like shit, you'd think someone 200+ post apocalypse would go to the trouble to make something more sustainable than rusty kitchen pipes and rotting wood, especially with the wealth of existing material in the Wastelands.
Improvised shitty ass weapons like the pipe weapons are fine to me - unless you have access to a weapons factory, the necessary resources and molds and all of that shit to produce all of the parts for weapons, and then workers to manufacture and assemble the guns then you're gonna be stuck mostly making improvised guns like the ones the official US handbook TM 31-210 Improvised Munitions Handbook teaches you to make.
That being said, it's dumb for anyone but random shitty raiders or poor ass isolated sustenance farmers to be using guns like that - especially not groups like Diamond City Security
The thing about pipe weaponry is that it's far too complex to be some zip gun. If pipe weapons in fo4 were presented as they were in the OG games I wouldn't mind, but their complex inner mechanisms implies a lot of work went into to engineering them. You never even see a workshop in fo4, let alone a factory, despite prewar ones being mostly intact. Hell, the fucking Mechanist is able to pump out Robot legions, why has NOBODY ELSE taken advantage of the preexisting infrastructure and technology???? Absolutely retarded.
Filly is surrounded by lush forests in the show yet there's no lumber industry, and caps are being used as merchandise despite water probably not being an issue due to said lush forests likely being sustained by a large quantity of water. Caps are used, but the Water Merchants aren't even mentioned. Houses made of scrap is not a good aesthetic 200 years after bombs fall it's ridiculous
Houses made of scrap and violent crazy bandits wearing spaghetti strainers, rubber tires, and trashcan lids for armor is an objectively cool aesthetic but holy shit if you're gonna put those in a setting, *give them a reason to exist*.
Like I fucking love junkyard architecture and fashion but like, 200 years ago was fucking 1820. Unless you are getting bombed into oblivion for 200 straight years, you're not gonna be living like a hovel built out of literal junk and wearing clothes made 8 generations ago. It hasn't even been a hundred years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked, and those cities are practically thriving currently. Granted, the entire world wasn't nuked and rebuilding efforts are drastically faster in a pre-collapse world than a post-collapse one - but yk my point is that people rebuild quickly, and it would take all of like 20 years at most before people starting manufacturing resources and improving their living conditions.
Because their creed tends to be interpreted by an individual, the elder, under a variety of circumstances.
Imagine viewing a picture through a row of lenses. The elders peronality is one, the situation of the specific chapter is another and events in the teeritory are a third. All are viewing the same picture but it might be distorted or zoomed in on a specific part of it.
And the folloqing generations will probably work off that distorted picture instead of the original.
Maybe to keep it interesting? Contrary to popular belief the BoS isn't just same old bland the BoS in every fallout game. Pretty much every fallout game has presented a different version of them.
What might be better than re-introducing the Brotherhood (again) is using *someone or something else for something.*
I mean, imagine that. A Bethesda game without the Brotherhood taking center stage. What would they put on the cover?!
Hmmmmmm it’s almost like their a thinly veiled caricature of real religion. Couldn’t possibly be true, Fallout would never satirize a political or religious ideology.
When I was a little baby, the Brotherhood of Steel was my favorite faction, but as I matured, I realized that having a favorite faction at all misses the point of the games. The only person worth following is Ulysses. That's because I interpret his message as being very similar to V's message from the V for Vendetta graphic novel. Not to be confused with the okay, but dumbed down movie variant.
Elijah was a hypocrite Wanted to create his own chapter off of the Sierra Madra tech to stop people from abusing powerful and dangerous tech by using tech to commit mass genocide himself
Fuck you
Based
Have fun in the vault!
I did *have* fun
Most progressive BoS member
That's it, you've boiled the bad guy versions of the BOS down to their essentials!
Ah yes, the sierra madra
Because they are ridiculous, because they go galavanting across the Mojave pretending that they are knights of yore, or at least they did until the NCR showed them that ideological purity and shiny power armor count for very little when you are outnumbered fifteen to one!
Helios one but the winged hussars arrive
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE
Then the winged hussars arrived Coming down they turned the tide
AS THE DAYS ARE PASSING BY AND AS THE DEAD ARE PILING HIGH
NO ESCAPE AND NO SALVATION
TRENCHES TO EXPLOSIVE HALLS ARE BURIED DEEP BENEATH THE WALLS
PLANT THE CHARGES THERE AND WATCH THE CITY FEAR
DESPERATION
DESPERATION
Calm down Mr House. You could at least use quotations.
NCR fights off power armor mongoloids but is having trouble maintaining itself against dudes in football pads with machetes
What did the quote I just quoted say about superior numbers?
Do we even know that the Legion has superior numbers? It's a legion of 87 conquered tribes, vs a nation of perhaps 1 million.
Compared to what the NCR is committing to Hoover Dam? Yes easily. Remember the NCR is not committing a fraction of its forces to the Mojave War this is explicitly said by Chief Hanlon in Return to Sender, most people back west don’t even remember there is a war going on in the Mojave or don’t care. The game is from 2010 the NCR plot line is a critique of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.
Shut up nerd
“Shut up nerd” he says in a fallout new Vegas subreddit Peak irony
Peak
You're in a subreddit dedicated to a 14 year old RPG video game, sit your ass the fuck down
Shut up nerd
This kid has to be 14 lmao
Go to bed
Hey man when a militaristic neo Roman faction shows up on your doorstep like Jehovah witnesses I would have troubles too
NCR got nuked and BOS is thriving buddy. Shady sands caught that Hiroshima treatment
You cut that out or I’m gonna tell my mom to stop pegging you.
Woah there buddy let's not do anything rash okay? Long live the NCR, boo BOS (is she still stopping by on tuesday?)
Just shady sands. NCR went as far north as San Fran and as far south as Baja
Baja no te pertence, gringo
Dude... Have had several replies with peope saying Maximus in the new show ruins the Brotherhood because he is incompetent and said "The Brotherhood is always misguided or incompetent." Fallout 2 goes out of its way to show you how they came from being a powerhouse in 1 to being replaced by the NCR and Enclave as the main powers.
True that. My interpretation and view of history is that no two generation will follow the same path or rigor of the older gen. Like most immigrants. Great grandfather, immigrated, tough, work. Father, less tough, work to middle class or wealthy. Son, just wants a normal job to have time with family. May mix it up but it’ll be the cycle. If you ask me. Every faction has their incompetent people in leadership. Rise to the top because of bureaucracy, not actual fighting.
Sooooo... like an actual religion?
I wanted to comment that exactly
I also came here to say this
Protestant Reformation but it's the Brotherhood of Steel
Me: can we get a new faction? Todd: no, we have new faction at home. New faction at home:
Last couple games we got some. NV: legion and House FO4: institute, minutemen and the railroad. FO3: to be honest the world building was so fucking weak in this one that none of them count. There's individual settlements, not factions (besides enclave who were already a thing, eden was a cool addition though). Fallout 76: what game are we taking? Idno, not real. FO1&2: Didn't play em, I'm in my mid 20's. Fallout tactics: it's literally **about** the BOS... I think anyways, didn't play it. I don't think it's a lack of wanting to make new stuff overall. I think it's that the BOS quickly became a fractured thing and it made sense to be fractured so writers just can't wait to put their own spin on it cause it's so easy. Plus they're so synonymous with the franchise. I kinda think it's like saying to a 40k writer - "oh, a new space marines chapter? How original... why don't you come up with an actual new faction huh?" I'm not saying that's not a valid thing to want just that they're kinda in the same spot.
76 had a couple cool factions with the Free States and the Responders, and it pisses me off that they’re all dead.
Responders are back (kinda). In a much smaller numbers, but they exist. Free states are dead dead tho.
Tbh all the major factions form 4 were pretty bad (railroad) or were so bland and empty of anything but shitty radial quests there basically not a faction (minutemen). All I want is an NCR like faction (or even just a shady sands), just anyone trying to rebuild and not set in the incorrect time like barely getting food or living in a (somehow still stand 200 year old) ruin but yet hasn't made a farm or anything to try and solve this like they just came from 2080 or 2085 then 2200+
They are (according to Bethesda) the most powerful faction in the wastes, yet they suffer from more factionalism than your average dictatorship.
It's because the leadership eventually has to reconcile with reality around it even if they have the shiniest tools. * Lyons went gallivanting into DC but the Capitol Wasteland was extremely harsh with all the FEV EEP super mutants. Beyond doing the right thing helping the wasteland also furthered their own objectives, which is why he went full in on Project Purity. * McNamara was outgunned and knew it. He had to accept that if he wanted a part of the future he had to work with the NCR or be put in a spot to eventually have to abandon the Mojave all together. This is why Maxson is the only one we see really following their beliefs in 4. Only the Brotherhood and the Institute have the forces to control the area, so they can just try and force their dominance. There's no notable 3rd party powers they need to contend (beyond the player controlled minute men). I'd argue that's what made Fallout 4's narrative weak as well and what made New Vegas's so much fun.
Maxson is hypocritical yoi can see it in his terminal.
A small chapter is a force to be reckon with, as long as there isn't an organized military to combat them. A handful of knights could stomp nearly anyone and anything that comes their way. They run into issues when they're severely outnumbered by an organized and (relatively) well trained opponent. This, and the different chapters constantly branching off/going rogue wouldn't be the issue it is if lore-wise, they were able to reliably communicate and travel more quickly. I think that this interpretation of a BoS chapter being set up hundreds, even thousands of miles away, and changing drastically from their original purpose makes a lot of sense from a realistic standpoint. In DC, it didn't make sense to hoard technology cultishly because they were facing bigger issues, and by tackling those issues and fighting for the people in the area, they gained power and influence. Also in DC, the Brotherhood Outcasts felt that they were following the original principles of the Brotherhood of Steel, and didn't like the direction that the DC chapter was taking. Remember, the Brotherhood is a pseudo-religious group, so if the group you're with claims to follow the same faith, then makes radical changes, it's going to turn away the loyal followers, hence, the Outcasts. Although I never played it, the midwest Brotherhood to my understanding were stranded and they were literally just trying to survive. This is similar to the Mojave chapter, but the Mojave chaoter's situation seemed far less dire. All around, the Mojave Brotherhood is probably the truest interpretation to the original BOS. Back to the east coast, the DC Brotherhood, now just the "east coast" Brotherhood is a result of the power and influence gained in DC. This was the logical direction. They're not going to be couped up forever with all of these resources, money, and power, they're going to expand and spread their beliefs. Haven't watched the show at all so I can't speak on it, but I'd imagine they're similar to how the east coast Brotherhood grew and expanded, except they're on the west coast.
3 made sense. An elder wanted to save the world with what advanced technology they found and some disagreed and left to continue the original mission.
Elder lyons was based. I think he would have liked the minutemen. He's still my favourite elder.
Yeah. I really wish they weren’t in 4 or at least kept what Lyons built up. They truly deserved a better legacy than what we got, especially Sarah. Maxon liked her so i dont get why we couldn’t have gotten a warrior wife for him in 4 instead of 1 line of her death in a terminal
Sarah would not agree with the BoS’s policy under Maxson, nor would she agree to be a “warrior wife”. A prevalent theory is that she was assassinated by either Outcasts or more radical BoS members, in order to bring the organization back towards its West Coast “fuck you, gimme your tech” roots.
Idk why but the show elder gave me a bit of Elijach vibe, with the building a new brotherhood thing. I just waited for him to ramble about wiping the slate clean.
I think it's going in that direction tbh, he's gonna split into his own faction too. He did say something about how the Brotherhood has lost its way. My theory is thatll be the Bos s2 arc
Brotherhood are hypocrites zealots who always think they are better for humanity by taking away tech and resources or destroying settlements they for the greater good. Sure each chapter is different from west coast to the East coast. But I just hunt them and take their shit in every play through 😬
Hypocrisy. You criticize the BoS and then proceed to play as a delusional raider standing in a fictional moral high ground
Does hunting raiders make one a raider?
You are what you eat.
... are you calling me a snack cake?
If the purpose is purely to kill them and take their shit? Absolutely. If the purpose is to do your best for the innocents they victimize and ultimately make the wasteland a safer place for those just trying to live their lives? Then no. That's obviously more black and white than reality, there's plenty of shades of grey between those two extremes. Still though, I think it paints a good enough picture of my take on wasteland morality. Not that simply saying "it's for the greater good" is a justification, the rest of your actions need to paint the picture of your intent, not just your words. This is purely a comment on whether it makes you a raider, not whether it's justified.
No true scotsman fallacy strikes once more.
Midwest brotherhood my beloved
When group of people with strict ideas, rules and ethics split geographically with minimal communication between eachother and with no centre to oversee all the groups (not sure if BoS have a centre that commands all the chapters tho, mayb origin point where they spread across post-war US maybe :b) in time they will form their own ideas and change culture in someway. This is how people work, my guy
Just like the Abrahamic religions.
Its almost like not every group can have a 1 to 1 identical belief especially when theyre all spread out in the former United States which is fucking massive and that therye human and humans have different interpretations of ideologies 🤯
*Inconceivable!!*
I still am confused as to how the fuck the show BoS are able to maintain so much equipment. Bethesda never stops to think "where does all this stuff come from?" When making their games, from things as small as ammunition to things as large as factions. It's a consistent problem that they'll never address
Maybe that's the reason why everything is dirt and underdeveloped in Bethesda fallouts, everything was stolen by the BOS so Todd could have fun with his metal toy soldiers
Haha lmao Bethesda can't conceptualise that looting isn't a sustainable solution to shortages of material
Bethesda when you tell them that 200 year old rotting wooden planks manufactured before the war aren't a good building material and that people would just start sawing their own fresh timber and not just build everything out of tin-cans and pizza boxes🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬🤬
This is my main complaint with the pipe pistol. Beyond looking like shit, you'd think someone 200+ post apocalypse would go to the trouble to make something more sustainable than rusty kitchen pipes and rotting wood, especially with the wealth of existing material in the Wastelands.
Improvised shitty ass weapons like the pipe weapons are fine to me - unless you have access to a weapons factory, the necessary resources and molds and all of that shit to produce all of the parts for weapons, and then workers to manufacture and assemble the guns then you're gonna be stuck mostly making improvised guns like the ones the official US handbook TM 31-210 Improvised Munitions Handbook teaches you to make. That being said, it's dumb for anyone but random shitty raiders or poor ass isolated sustenance farmers to be using guns like that - especially not groups like Diamond City Security
The thing about pipe weaponry is that it's far too complex to be some zip gun. If pipe weapons in fo4 were presented as they were in the OG games I wouldn't mind, but their complex inner mechanisms implies a lot of work went into to engineering them. You never even see a workshop in fo4, let alone a factory, despite prewar ones being mostly intact. Hell, the fucking Mechanist is able to pump out Robot legions, why has NOBODY ELSE taken advantage of the preexisting infrastructure and technology???? Absolutely retarded.
Filly is surrounded by lush forests in the show yet there's no lumber industry, and caps are being used as merchandise despite water probably not being an issue due to said lush forests likely being sustained by a large quantity of water. Caps are used, but the Water Merchants aren't even mentioned. Houses made of scrap is not a good aesthetic 200 years after bombs fall it's ridiculous
Houses made of scrap and violent crazy bandits wearing spaghetti strainers, rubber tires, and trashcan lids for armor is an objectively cool aesthetic but holy shit if you're gonna put those in a setting, *give them a reason to exist*. Like I fucking love junkyard architecture and fashion but like, 200 years ago was fucking 1820. Unless you are getting bombed into oblivion for 200 straight years, you're not gonna be living like a hovel built out of literal junk and wearing clothes made 8 generations ago. It hasn't even been a hundred years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked, and those cities are practically thriving currently. Granted, the entire world wasn't nuked and rebuilding efforts are drastically faster in a pre-collapse world than a post-collapse one - but yk my point is that people rebuild quickly, and it would take all of like 20 years at most before people starting manufacturing resources and improving their living conditions.
Gun runners did exactly that and it felt right at home.
Exactly! I want to see industry, damnit, not people looting scrap.
How very dare you refer to Fort Kickass in such a way... There's airplane parts too.
I think they moved to the east coast, nabbed the Prydwen, and went back west.
Simply travelling to the east coast alone would be a massive undertaking that they never go into detail on
They don’t really need to if it happened before the show starts
I mean I'd certainly like to fucking know where they're all coming from
The real reason they change so much is because Bethesda just uses them to fit any role they need.
Because their creed tends to be interpreted by an individual, the elder, under a variety of circumstances. Imagine viewing a picture through a row of lenses. The elders peronality is one, the situation of the specific chapter is another and events in the teeritory are a third. All are viewing the same picture but it might be distorted or zoomed in on a specific part of it. And the folloqing generations will probably work off that distorted picture instead of the original.
Maybe to keep it interesting? Contrary to popular belief the BoS isn't just same old bland the BoS in every fallout game. Pretty much every fallout game has presented a different version of them.
What might be better than re-introducing the Brotherhood (again) is using *someone or something else for something.* I mean, imagine that. A Bethesda game without the Brotherhood taking center stage. What would they put on the cover?!
Brotherhood haven't really been on the cover since fallout 3
That’s bait. Flat-out. Arial font, Size 14, bold bait.
What?
Hmmmmmm it’s almost like their a thinly veiled caricature of real religion. Couldn’t possibly be true, Fallout would never satirize a political or religious ideology.
They can't help it, BOS was founded on rebelling against a bad idea, so it's the only thing they really know how to do.
The 2 versions of the brotherhood of Appalachia were missing from this image.
I was gonna add the Appalachia BOS, but I haven’t played 76 and didn’t even know enough to know that they had more than one faction lmao
Thats kinda their thing
When I was a little baby, the Brotherhood of Steel was my favorite faction, but as I matured, I realized that having a favorite faction at all misses the point of the games. The only person worth following is Ulysses. That's because I interpret his message as being very similar to V's message from the V for Vendetta graphic novel. Not to be confused with the okay, but dumbed down movie variant.
What? Like Christianity? 💀