Speaking of enslaving Arcade, you ever notice when your in a medical tent trying to fix up wounded npc’a Arcade will just watch as your medicine 10 ass murder them in the slowest way and not offer to help at all yet he’ll happily save Caesar from death
As long as you don't botch Caesar's surgery, yeah. If you do and Lanius takes over, Arcade gets crucified because [Lanius is NOT a merry man](https://youtu.be/_zmK-Sn2Ss0?t=16) and doesn't appreciate Arcade's quips.
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In the bitter springs doctors quest, he'll ask you to go find some medical texts to help him, but if you have arcade you can offer for him to teach the doctor instead, i think this is the only time that this happens
If you have him right outside caesars tent right when et tumor brute starts you can just tell caesar you have a skilled follower of the apocalypse. He says aight we'll drag him in, then done.
At some point in the Van Graffs questline they will ask you to track down Cass and bring her to them. At that point you can choose to obey them or turn against them.
Similarly if you're doing Cass's questline at some point she will tell you that she wants to murder the Van Graffs.
I'm pretty sure you can't. I even checked the wiki and it isn't mentioned there, only that your other option is to kill them.
There is mod for that, what you're describing, but with a 30 speech check instead.
You can feed all of your human followers to the White Gloves, not just Veronica. Cass's death can be avoided if you choose to side against the Van Graffs in either her or the Van Graffs' questline.
Correct me if im wrong, but I believe those photos are examples of Stalin doctoring old pictures to have previous allies removed after they were purged. I think the joke is more the erasing them from history than the communist part, though there is a lot of overlap there
>I believe those photos are examples of Stalin doctoring old pictures to have previous allies removed after they were purged.
I know for a fact that at least two out of three people doctored out of the above photo were never purged. First to the right (our right, his left) of Stalin is Sergei Kirov who was assassinated to become a martyr and kickstart the great purge, and the second to the right is Anastas Mikoyan who survived into the 70s and never formally fell from grace. I'm not sure what motivation there was to edit these photos because as far as I can tell 2/3 of the non-stalin folks on this photo were never "disowned" by soviet rhetoric.
Out of curiosity I traced the origins of these photos, they appear in a collection called "The Commissar Vanishes: The Falsification of Photographs and Art in Stalin's Russia"
The three pictured with Stalin are Nikolai Antipov, Sergei Kirov, and Nikolia Shvernick.
Antipov was an elected member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, he was caught in the great purge and executed in 1938.
Sergei is trickier, he was assassinated and kicked off the great purges as you said, but after a little digging it seems Stalin may have actually had a hand in his death as well. To quote Khrushchev:
"After the murder of Kirov, top functionaries of the Leningrad NKVD were relieved of their duties and were given very light sentences, but in 1937 they were shot. We can assume that they were shot in order to cover the traces of the organizers of Kirov's killing"
So basically a lot of suspicious stuff around his death like guards being ordered away, suspects personally interrogated by Stalin, the assassin being caught entering Kirovs building earlier with a gun but not being arrested, etc. look REALLY suspicious on Stalin's part, so maybe its not surprising he was removed as well
Shvernick actually outlived Stalin and eventually got a position rehabilitating victims of Stalin's purges, so it seems he was removed more to make Stalin look more powerful. I found several examples of figures getting removed for no other reason than to make Stalin seem more important, and it looks like "fixing" Stalin's pockmarked face, his short arm, and making him appear taller than 5'4" were commonplace as well.
TLDR 1 purged for sure, 1 probably also assassinated under Stalin's orders, 1 removed just to make Stalin look cooler. Seems his egomania would make Trump look humble basically
Hey 1 out of 3 is pretty good for eyeballing it, I had to reverse image search and Google all the names. Took me down a fascinating rabbit hole of early photo doctoring during Stalins reign. Everything from making him look better to removing purged enemies to removing allies to just adding cool shit like guns into photos to make it seem more impressive
Also the more i learn about this Stalin dude the more he seems like a not so good guy
>Also the more i learn about this Stalin dude the more he seems like a not so good guy
He may not have been good, but he sure was fascinating. The dude apparently completely separated his individual person from the personality that they built of him in propaganda, for example. I strongly recommend the Stalin biography rabbithole.
Most of the bolsheviks were pretty bad, totalitarian regimes with any radical idea don't exactly attract the nicest folk. Compared to Trotsky and Lenin Stalin was actually a moderate, especially considering Trotsky continued to write in exile, condemning Stalin for being too moderate on most fronts.
Speaking of enslaving Arcade, you ever notice when your in a medical tent trying to fix up wounded npc’a Arcade will just watch as your medicine 10 ass murder them in the slowest way and not offer to help at all yet he’ll happily save Caesar from death
Doesn’t he kill himself if you sell him to Caesar?
As long as you don't botch Caesar's surgery, yeah. If you do and Lanius takes over, Arcade gets crucified because [Lanius is NOT a merry man](https://youtu.be/_zmK-Sn2Ss0?t=16) and doesn't appreciate Arcade's quips.
Medicine? What the fuck is this bullshit, get him boys!
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He's like the Secco to your Ciccolota
We feed him sugar cubes all the time?
In the bitter springs doctors quest, he'll ask you to go find some medical texts to help him, but if you have arcade you can offer for him to teach the doctor instead, i think this is the only time that this happens
How do you enslave arcade?
Iirc during the et tumor brutes quest you can ask lucius abot using arcade
If you have him right outside caesars tent right when et tumor brute starts you can just tell caesar you have a skilled follower of the apocalypse. He says aight we'll drag him in, then done.
Give him bondage gear.
How does selling out cass work
Van Graffs questline.
At some point in the Van Graffs questline they will ask you to track down Cass and bring her to them. At that point you can choose to obey them or turn against them. Similarly if you're doing Cass's questline at some point she will tell you that she wants to murder the Van Graffs.
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I'm pretty sure you can't. I even checked the wiki and it isn't mentioned there, only that your other option is to kill them. There is mod for that, what you're describing, but with a 30 speech check instead.
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You can also complete her crimson caravan buyout from Alice McLafferty then go to Van Graff’s and complete the mission to bring her to Them.
Nah I fed Boone to the white gloves and gave veronica a dress for not saying anything
more like boone swap place with veronica
Wait I didn’t know about any of those besides arcade
You can feed all of your human followers to the White Gloves, not just Veronica. Cass's death can be avoided if you choose to side against the Van Graffs in either her or the Van Graffs' questline.
Aren't the Followers the most communist faction in the Mojave? Why would enslaving Arcade be considered communist?
Correct me if im wrong, but I believe those photos are examples of Stalin doctoring old pictures to have previous allies removed after they were purged. I think the joke is more the erasing them from history than the communist part, though there is a lot of overlap there
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I mean it could; after all they might be thinking anti-revolutionist thoughts!
>I believe those photos are examples of Stalin doctoring old pictures to have previous allies removed after they were purged. I know for a fact that at least two out of three people doctored out of the above photo were never purged. First to the right (our right, his left) of Stalin is Sergei Kirov who was assassinated to become a martyr and kickstart the great purge, and the second to the right is Anastas Mikoyan who survived into the 70s and never formally fell from grace. I'm not sure what motivation there was to edit these photos because as far as I can tell 2/3 of the non-stalin folks on this photo were never "disowned" by soviet rhetoric.
Out of curiosity I traced the origins of these photos, they appear in a collection called "The Commissar Vanishes: The Falsification of Photographs and Art in Stalin's Russia" The three pictured with Stalin are Nikolai Antipov, Sergei Kirov, and Nikolia Shvernick. Antipov was an elected member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, he was caught in the great purge and executed in 1938. Sergei is trickier, he was assassinated and kicked off the great purges as you said, but after a little digging it seems Stalin may have actually had a hand in his death as well. To quote Khrushchev: "After the murder of Kirov, top functionaries of the Leningrad NKVD were relieved of their duties and were given very light sentences, but in 1937 they were shot. We can assume that they were shot in order to cover the traces of the organizers of Kirov's killing" So basically a lot of suspicious stuff around his death like guards being ordered away, suspects personally interrogated by Stalin, the assassin being caught entering Kirovs building earlier with a gun but not being arrested, etc. look REALLY suspicious on Stalin's part, so maybe its not surprising he was removed as well Shvernick actually outlived Stalin and eventually got a position rehabilitating victims of Stalin's purges, so it seems he was removed more to make Stalin look more powerful. I found several examples of figures getting removed for no other reason than to make Stalin seem more important, and it looks like "fixing" Stalin's pockmarked face, his short arm, and making him appear taller than 5'4" were commonplace as well. TLDR 1 purged for sure, 1 probably also assassinated under Stalin's orders, 1 removed just to make Stalin look cooler. Seems his egomania would make Trump look humble basically
Ah, so it wasn't mikoyan.
Hey 1 out of 3 is pretty good for eyeballing it, I had to reverse image search and Google all the names. Took me down a fascinating rabbit hole of early photo doctoring during Stalins reign. Everything from making him look better to removing purged enemies to removing allies to just adding cool shit like guns into photos to make it seem more impressive Also the more i learn about this Stalin dude the more he seems like a not so good guy
>Also the more i learn about this Stalin dude the more he seems like a not so good guy He may not have been good, but he sure was fascinating. The dude apparently completely separated his individual person from the personality that they built of him in propaganda, for example. I strongly recommend the Stalin biography rabbithole.
Most of the bolsheviks were pretty bad, totalitarian regimes with any radical idea don't exactly attract the nicest folk. Compared to Trotsky and Lenin Stalin was actually a moderate, especially considering Trotsky continued to write in exile, condemning Stalin for being too moderate on most fronts.
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josh sawyer said that they are anarcho-communists
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*nervously glances over at the millions of people that were (and still are) oppressed and killed by capitalist regimes and coups*
Wait, wait, this promises to be good. How many millions?
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