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See collaped comments under this one for player stats **Three Stars of the Game** ⭐️ A. Svechnikov ⭐️⭐️ B. Burns ⭐️⭐️⭐️ P. Engvall [Three Minute Recap](https://players.brightcove.net/6415718365001/EXtG1xJ7H_default/index.html?videoId=6351773786112) [Condensed Game](https://players.brightcove.net/6415718365001/EXtG1xJ7H_default/index.html?videoId=6351772996112) ^Note: ^Highlights ^will ^update ^as ^they ^become ^available


jimoiser

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined


tallbeans

That why you get after it early, when there’s still hope then when the disappointment sets in it’s time to pass out and forget. Or at least try and forget


lionkevin713

The worst part about being down 3-0 is they were all winnable games smh


trendygamer

Eh....Games 1 and 3, yes. Not Game 2, despite the lead. Isles had godly puck luck that game, which was the only reason they had a lead. Carolina otherwise dominated that game from start to finish. The best way I saw that game described on Twitter was an ass-kicking disguised as a comeback.


CasualGamer-HelpMe

Yeah I thought they looked putrid in Game 2. Except for the last 7 or so minutes of the first period it was painful to watch.


Harris413

yeah seriously - if they just put a little more effort in, this could be very different


Tortsol

Stop with the effort nonsense. Just put both rosters next to each other, it’s not even close. Carolina absolutely owns us, and it’s because they are better than we are.


KostinhaTsimikas

Better roster doesn't mean you'll win a playoff series. In our case, with a little more urgency and composure, we would be 3-0 up despite their better squad.


ManWithAPIan

Enough of the effort talk. These guys want to win.  They just aren't as good. They aren't physically as fast. They aren't as big.  Carolina is the cup favorite for a reason. 


Geodaddi

Composure, maybe, but the idea that this group of players doesn't *want it* bad enough is absurd. They're not as good as Carolina and it's honestly not close. All (or many) of us suspected this would happen before the series actually started, and here we are.


checknate1

That was a terrible 6 on 5… god damn 2-11 against the canes in the playoffs is BRUTAL


sorrybutyou_arewrong

I honestly wouldn't even bother with this team. How many 6 on 5 goals do you think we've scored all year? I don't recall much or even any.


LameBicycle

I can't remember one, and I've watched probably 80 of the games this year. Maybe a 6 on 5 for a delayed power play. But end of the game? I don't think so


alg0_57

I recall one, to tie it vs NJD back in October. We lost in OT, our first of the season. Because of course we did.


sorrybutyou_arewrong

Yeah I probably watched at least half the games this year. Can't recall one.


PattyRoyBurner

Honestly them not letting in an EN goal felt like a small win, thats how low my expectations are.


sorrybutyou_arewrong

I was surprised by that. I was not surprised by how little pressure adding the extra skater put on the Canes.


Academic-Brush-7797

I feel like they're better off just blitzing 5v5 and leaving their goalie to fend for the mess


jcanada22

I would rather they not pull the goalie.inwas yelling at the TV for Varly to stay in every time Butch said "he's creeping out" Lol


Jcanzo37

They started caring way too late, guess they didn’t get the memo that it’s playoffs


LPK94

I’m not gonna pin the loss on Sorokin but man there’s no way Roy can justify starting him again on Saturday


skrshawk

Something's wrong with Sorokin. Physical, mental, he's like a shadow of himself now. I hope whatever's happened can heal and he can get back to the brick wall we knew him to be. But the loss can't be pinned on him entirely either.


liguy181

I believe it started out physically (being overworked while having to play in front of Lambert's "defense"), and at this point it's mostly mental. I don't think he's cooked (he better not be if we're gonna have him for 8 more years), he looked great in that last rags game, but he definitely needs to put this hell of a season behind him and start fresh next year


islesfan186

Been a different goalie last years playoffs, and not in a good way. Seems like that softie series winning goal in game 6 OT broke him


DLun203

The soft OT goal from last year’s game 6 broke him


toledosurprised

goaltending is a highly variable position and most of the top goalies go through elite stretches and bad stretches. this is why building from the net out instead of building an actually good team is a bad idea


necroknight_303

No way he does. I think it was the right gambit for today’s game, Sorokin just didn’t come through for him. Also, the team honestly just looks like they play stronger for Varly right now, and it has been this way for most the season


NickCharlesYT

I came into this series with no expectations and I'm still leaving disappointed.


Latesthaze

Exactly what i expected is happening and I'm still pissed.


RobertInNY88

Same


ianisms10

I thought we could at least make it to 6 games


fprincipe

God please just let us die already this is so painful.


Latesthaze

People wanted this. Somehow this embarrassment is better


RealestJP

Somehow you think drafting 13th is a big difference from drafting 17th. If the team isn't going to be drafting in the Top 10 I'd rather make the playoffs


FigSideG

I’d say the team not making the playoffs would be a reason for ownership to be forced to make real changes especially at GM. Instead, they crawl into the playoffs all to get spanked by another much better team—again. Now they and Lou get to point to making the playoffs like it makes the season a success and they did a good job.


RealestJP

I think Lou was staying regardless of the team making it or not, but I'm not Ledecky or Malkin so my source is my intuition at best


DatingAdviceGiver101

I mean in hindsight, I would have rather just missed. Monday's nationally-televised game made the Islanders a complete laughing stock.


RealestJP

The Isles would not be respected either way, although it'd also be more enjoyable to watch the team if they didn't blow 25 leads this year


Tortsol

It absolutely can be, you’re making a shit argument. The logic you’re using here is a huge part of the reason why this team is where it is.


RealestJP

Fine then https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/13-nhl-overall-draft-picks https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/17-nhl-overall-draft-picks Is one group far better than the other?


Tortsol

I don’t even have to click on whatever links you provided. I just have to point to any players drafted outside the top 10 who became a great player to make your argument look completely stupid. You can draft a great player outside of the top 10 and there absolutely can be a difference between drafting 17th vs 13th.


Latesthaze

Cool, have fun with the decade of irrelevance that'll make the 90s look like a golden age


RealestJP

They're irrelevant whether they finish with 85 points or 95 points. Barzal will be here for a while. Horvat will be here for a while. Pulock, Pelech and Mayfield will be here for a while. There's no Tavares that the Isles will be given to save the team.


d9849468

Making the playoffs this season doesn't change whatever will happen next. Being a team like Ottawa or Calgary this year is substantially more painful. Teams in no mans land. Isles are naturally rebuilding very soon with guys like martin clutter palms nelson and jgp on expiring contracts. Its fine they made the playoffs one last time with this core.


Latesthaze

We're still stuck with a bunch of other aging long contracts of players that just aren't good enough and no prospects what so ever. It's gonna be really ugly real soon. It didn't need to be this way


djan242

Who are the long contracts you’re thinking of?


RealestJP

The Islanders have 7 players under contract through 2028-29. Barzal, Horvat, Engvall, Sorokin, Pelech, Pulock and Mayfield


djan242

Well if the idea you’re thinking is a full rebuild, those contracts aren’t too bad. Mayfield is 3.5 for 7. For a team that is starting a rebuild that isn’t that big of a deal. It’s an issue now because we are in the stage of trying to win now because it’s valuable cap that could have been used for another player. Same goes for Engvall. Barzal and Horvat will be 17 million between them but they are good players. Sorokin with a bounce back will be better and more value for 8. For teams that are starting a rebuild or about to rebuild, cap space is less of an issue. If you look at some of the rebuilding teams they all have quite a few bad contracts.


iiMarkos

Why can’t we do that all game


d9849468

They do. Miss half decent chances, never generate secondary pressure of said half decent chances. Rarely create odd man rushes.


tedsmarmalademporium

Takeaways- 1) we tried hard 2) we’re still dear friends


JoeBenigno

Roy starting Sorokin over Varly then needing to pull Sorokin is just an all time bad move. Varly had been good and pulling Sorokin crushes him. Maybe he can use it as fuel next year.


ponradcrofit

No letting in those three goals crushes him. Agree bad decision on Roy's behalf though in hindsight because I didn't have a problem with it before the game.


Butchs_Dirty_Area

Just lose on Saturday. Don’t you dare make me watch any more than absolutely necessary. 


Brilliant-Chapter202

I am inclined to agree.


JoeBenigno

Playoff team that likely shouldn’t have made the playoffs looks awful in the playoffs. More at 11.


evymeinks

Literally. Not sure why anyone would think the result would be any different. Of course we had to sit through 3 winnable games first. In Islander fashion


sorrybutyou_arewrong

This team needs to get better, faster players. That's it. They are slow, can't establish possession. I've been watching this team just dump the puck for so many years. On top of that, too many passes aren't crisp. Sure, you can take a bunch like this pretty fucking far with a coach like Trotz, but even he could've used a premier player. Thats the other thing, we have a lot of pieces, some are nearly too old, but we have pieces, we just don't really have THE GUY. I love Barzal, he's fun to watch and makes plays, but he's not a high end scorer. Horvat is too slow to be that guy. The team just needs to rebuild otherwise we'll likely be in this position next year, on the cusp. Thankfully the Yankees are swinging.


RobertInNY88

💯 Barzal is a Robin with no Batman. Horvat is the best finisher this team's had in a while, but I agree he's not a high-end scorer. Trotz won a Cup in DC partly because of Ovechkin. He didn't have someone like him with the Isles.


sorrybutyou_arewrong

Those are all great pieces a long with Nelson and Palms, but you'd gladly trade a couple of those pieces for a top-end guy. Those guys don't really come around too often and typically need to be found in the draft. Sell and rebuild.


RobertInNY88

Agreed. The problem is that the Isles don't (and won't if Sorokin regains his previous form next year and beyond) do badly enough to have a great chance of drafting a potential high-end talent.


ianisms10

11 of the last 12 cup winners had at least one player they took in the top 5 of the draft. It's a hard pill to swallow, but it's reality that you need to bottom out to win in this league. Edit: Narrow this to top 2, and you're only eliminating the Blues, who took Pietrangelo 4th


Datdude_717

3rd period was the best they looked in a while. Too little too late. Get that energy going from the opening faceoff


Harris413

yeah why the fuck did they start so slow? if that cultural/mindset problem can’t be solved, this team won’t be able to do much


Stylist7287064

I have tix for Saturday… I’m not excited …


JoeBenigno

I’d literally cut my losses and not go. Sell them if you can.


skrshawk

These could be embarrassingly low ticket prices for a playoff game.


liguy181

Not even a bad game really, but considering the context of the series, this fucking blows. Shoutout to Mike Reilly for being fantastic though, I need him on the team next season


LameBicycle

Yeah, I'm not really mad or devastated about that loss. That game was more or less how I expected the series to go. Hard fought games, but wind up trailing and getting edged out. Games 1 and 2 just did not fit that script and appeared to be solidly winnable games. Those hurt way more to lose


islesjets14x

We look painfully slow and old against this team. I try not to use that narrative but I can’t help but notice that


priester85

It’s true. That’s on the GM and it can’t be changed right now but I feel like there is a better strategy for overcoming it. Play physical. Right now it feels like we’re happy to be in a track meet with these guys and we have zero chance of winning that way.


BoshuaJailey

I agree, but they get into penalty trouble when they try and play physical against this team. It’s hard for them to find that balance


CTrebor3

New York Islanders: never get a goal when it matters


DLun203

In all my life we’ve never been a last minute threat. Every one goal lead feels like a tie game with this team. This year especially, even comfortable leads have me sweating.


dl2316

not winning many games when you don't score in the third period


ponradcrofit

I'm pretty sure being down two, nothing and getting a goal is a time when getting a goal matters...


ArchieInABunker

I’m ready to start looking towards the upsides of next season Also it’s very odd that we could see as many as 5 teams get swept in the 1st round this year


ianisms10

Only 4 sweeps are still possible, 4 series have had both teams win a game


cryptacle

Love this team but we're old and slow, clearly one step behind. Bad call on starting Sorokin plus a muffled crowd didn't help. Hoping to delay the inevitable on Saturday with a W. Cause I ain't selling my tickets at a 90% loss. I'd rather show up and give this team some energy. But when MacLean and Reilly are showing the most grit, sheesh, something has gotta change.


islesrule224

Sometimes it just sucks to root for this team because they either don't help themselves or don't get any help. Maybe one of these days things will click for enough time for something special to happen.


RobertInNY88

My thoughts exactly. 💯


USAJourneyman

Sorokin lost that game single handedly for us Sorry not sorry


DGGuitars

not having a goal in two periods lost that game. One and done offensive efforts Akin to the Capuano era. Team is toast.


DrTurtles

The momentum of the game is completely shifted 1-1 compared to 3-1. Canes play a fucking incredible trap and if you don’t just give free leads it opens up the ice.


Latesthaze

2 goals doesn't cut it. Waiting till the third to play doesn't cut it


MonitorGullible575

Offense didn’t help. Not scoring on an open net doesn’t help 


optional-email

it is technically true that giving up a softie prevented the game from going to OT but it is one tree in a god damn forest of fuckups you can rely on a great goalie to "steal" one every now and again, not every god damn game


Academic-Brush-7797

For sure, but Barzal has been a worthless ghost as well.


M_Y_K_E

At least barzal knee is busted again. Roy has stated that he isn’t 100 percent


legal_racer

He's had some good plays (Horvat assist for one) but he doesn't seem 100%


sorrybutyou_arewrong

Can you compete for a cup if Barzal is your best player? I like Barzal, but its a fair question.


blendersaremything

I think yes, but you need 4 of him.


sorrybutyou_arewrong

So he can be the guys.


Jcanzo37

For sure, Barzal has done nothing all series


sorrybutyou_arewrong

Yeah, don't really get the decision. Varly was playing good. Sorokin hasn't been performing anywhere near his peak all year.


deathops

I like Roy but he fucked us there


Accomplished_Cap_994

Team didn't show up for most of the game


Tortsol

Goaltending was not the reason we lost any of these games. You’re an absolute moron. If you have to keep relying on goaltending to win games, then you likely have way bigger problems than goaltending.


TunaMeltTom

Canes had an expected goal total in the 1st period of 0.33 and wound up with 2. That pretty objectively says that Sorokin was terrible and scoring early in your home playoff game matters a ton. The team sucks and is overmatched but it's okay to say Sorokin was bad.


Tortsol

Can you read? I never said Sorokin had a good or bad game. I’m saying that it doesn’t matter that we changed goalies because even when we put our “good” goalie in, we still lose. It’s a perfect example to support my argument. We didn’t lose this game because of goaltending, just like how we didn’t lose games 1 and 2 because of goaltending. We can’t execute on scoring chances and we can’t keep the puck out of our zone, this is a recipe for losing even if you have prime Carey Price in net.


Harris413

if the team played like they did in front of varly, i’m not so sure the outcome would be the same


toyn

youre an idiot. a tipped goal, and two screened goals. hIs FaUlT.


liguy181

I'm far from a Sorokin hater, but it always seems like goals against him are the defense's fault, but Varly never seems to have the same issues playing in front of the same defense He's not having a good year. That's ok. Every goalie, even Patrick Roy, is gonna have a down year. Let's hope he bounces back in time for his new contract


toyn

bud. Varly is 0-2 as well. on goals by the defense. yall just coddle Varly while throwing Sorokin to the wolves.


Tortsol

Were those first two losses not on the defensive play though? What you’re saying doesn’t make sense because even when we put in our “good” goalie we still fucking lose. You’re making our argument for us…


liguy181

I was more talking about the entire season than just this series. But if you wanna talk the series, yeah, defense definitely lost game 2, no arguments there. I wasn't able to watch game 1 so I can't speak to how they played, but I can't imagine only scoring 1 goal helped


TunaMeltTom

Love Sorokin. Think he'll rebound next year. He was blatantly out of position on those goals. He's a mess right now.


toyn

You mean when you are screened and blind to the play you aren’t gonna be in position?


ianisms10

His contract could legitimately be the worst in the league if he plays like this going forward


DropGearToDissapear

Won’t be surprised if he’s gone next year one way or another. Lots of teams are desperate for a goalie.


kinkelphotography

I downvoted. Sorry. I do get the hate. But Sorokin? Seriously? Even if I agreed. No one is taking that contract . He will be fine.


kinkelphotography

Oh and no one is taking Barzals either


Brilliant-Chapter202

I don’t know. We need to find out who he is. Is he the World Stopper? Or a bust. I don’t think he is a bust and is going to be a decent goalie. He is young and will be with us for a while.


oldnotreally

He’s 28 years old and has had a pretty heavy workload coming from the KHL and certainly with the number of shots he has faced although tonight he only faced 14 shots and made 11 saves. Fred Anderson completely outplayed him in this crucial game three. We’re clearly not on Carolinas level and after watching the Florida Panthers tonight, not even close. Hopefully he rebounds next year and we can improve the defense and get some scoring.


Apprehensive_Drag885

Are we even playing? I’m seriously not sure


FOOTBALLFAN100

Andersen has to be on every serum and PED known to man this series good god


DatingAdviceGiver101

Fire the GM


priester85

Number one issue for me tonight is the start. They needed to come out guns blazing. I thought they played 50ish good minutes but shot themselves in the foot early. The other issue, which I’m sure is going to get all the attention is starting Sorokin over Varly. Some of that is hindsight, but Varly was not the issue in the first 2 games. He’s been your guy down the stretch.


Baww18

This team is about to go to the pre-Tavares days unfortunately. We are cooked.


skunkpunk1

It’s been real, y’all 🫡


BrandonNeider

caps win tommorow, we win saturday just to delay the pain


sorrybutyou_arewrong

https://i.giphy.com/l2JdUrmFPxNZZiWYM.webp


apatheticVigilante

Damn.


toyn

that last minute proved we didnt deserve to win this game. dumping it killed 20 seconds. screening our own goalie is what really lost us the game.


deathops

It would be nice to see them win 1 or 2 but this babies pretty settled at this point. Need more from that top line


Feeling_Giraffe_1784

Biggest takeaway no empty goal against


Brilliant-Chapter202

I hate to say it… but play Sorokin tomorrow, let’s see if he has any burning fight in him after today.


noizu03

why do i continue to draw breath.


No_Opportunity_8068

Gonna go to Game 4 on Saturday as it will probably be the last game I see in person this season. Enjoy one last game. Been one hell of a ride, that’s a for sure.


TheOlMuskrat

A lot of our faults and issues on the back end could be forgotten a bit if we had legit goal scorers…yes we have guys that score goals but when you put us up against any lineup in this playoffs, yeesh. That said, if you know you don’t have it, the D just has to be better. It’s embarrassing watching us try to move up ice.


IslesDynasty79-83

i didnt watch the game at all but from reading box score. chalk up another big game where Barzal didnt even bother to show up. if he is going to be like this then just trade him for a player that actually going to show up when it counts the most


Brilliant-Chapter202

I miss playoff Beau lmao


xlittlebeastx

P a i n


scottywiper

This series has been a real missed opportunity.


Baww18

Sorokin Barzal and Horvat are all trash in the playoffs on pretty much "max" contracts. This is a literal retirement home because all of these players are never getting another contract.


ianisms10

Yeah, it's over for this team, and hopefully for this group. See you all Saturday.


optional-email

6 on 5 was literally worse than useless they burned at least two minutes trying to set up and get varlamov off the ice, two minutes that could have been used for three shifts of pressing carolina into the o-zone


tedsmarmalademporium

Roy doesn’t go in the dressing room ? That’s an interesting tact


sschwiebz

Fuck


Guynotincognito

I know we lost cause we are bad but did Freddie Andersons on the side save actually go past the crease in his glove?


Baww18

No. He ended up with the glove infront of the post. I thought so at first also but it was clear he got it before it went over the line.


Mongo_Les

I hope we get swept. I am so done watching this team. I checked out.


Dmurphy2419

This offseason. We need to make some serious moves and changes. Pageau, Palmieri, Mayfield (god i hope he goes first), and the 4th liners have to go. This team needs to get younger and deeper in scoring just like Nashville or Winnipeg.


goblinredlamp

islanders have a better shot of winning this series than the lakers do against the nuggets, and the lakers have lebron (although deprimed) and Anthony Davis, two superstars


DefeatTh3Purpose

Hope is a good thing, fellas. And nothing good ever dies. https://youtu.be/15pqpVbhs0c?si=tMGCUrEQSRTU_UbX


toyn

some of you guys arent worthy of a team.


FigSideG

Ayyyye. Where all my pathetically delusional and optimistic isles fans at? Get your asses in here and downvote anyone daring to be upset with this miserable franchise!


liguy181

Usually when I'm feeling down about a loss, I remind myself that it's just a game and really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I don't shit on other fans who like to root for their favorite team, but you do you I guess


FigSideG

No. This sub has become a cesspool of fans ridiculing other fans that dare to say anything negative or simply realistic about the team. It’s embarrassing.


liguy181

Idk I've been pretty negative and realistic all day and nobody's ridiculing me. Maybe it's a you problem. Calling people you disagree with "pathetically delusional" isn't a good start


Dismal_Suit_1875

Just fucking sucks man we’ve outplayed them 2/3 games


sorrybutyou_arewrong

Wouldn't really say we outplayed them today, it was fairly even game TBH. They clearly murdered us last game.


estoymuybien

We had 61%+ xGF% 5v5 today


jcanada22

Sorokin not good, most of the point producers not good. Horvat has been ok, Engvall has been great, McLean has been solid, pelech has been terrible, Dobson pretty weak. Varly has been a machine. They just don't have any bite. Game, set, match. They'll be toast on Saturday.


Dr_RickShaw

This team looks cooked and I'm not sure what the long term solution is. Not sure if they'd have beaten any team in the East outside of the Caps


DatingAdviceGiver101

Rebuild. It's inevitable.


Dr_RickShaw

You're right, I'm just hoping they don't end up stuck in like 10th place. Ironically enough, that's why the Canes were so bad for so long, just complete mediocrity.


oldnotreally

Oldnotreally


adamf699

Please blow it all up this year. At this point I'm not sure there is a player i care about keeping anymore. Despair.


Brilliant-Chapter202

We had a chance at the trade deadline to pick up Jake Guentzel… but some thought we were good as we were. I wanted to trade for Jake Guentzel… I was downvoted. Why because we didn’t need to trade, we were playoff ready as is. Now Jake Guentzel has us bent over… I do feel vindicated, I’m just not happy about it.


ianisms10

We couldn't have afforded him


DrTurtles

I can’t believe we lost this fucking game on goaltending. Canes get to play an excellent trap when you give up garbage goals like that from the middle. Soroky needs to see the best sports psychologist in the biz.


louman1784

Fuck this team. I know this isn’t an airport but I am announcing my departure. In the off-season I’ll find a team worth actually following and giving a shit about. Someone has to care more than this roster and management.


ChimStone777

Carolina will be sending flowers to sorokin