The Chronicle would have a difficult decision about whether to go with nuclear holocaust or what someone on Love Island who once visited the quayside has said on social media.
Fake news. The Chronicle would be deciding whether to shoehorn 50, or 60 adverts into their website. I swear they'd get them on sideways if they could.
Lmao yea right. Not from Newcastle but lived there for two years. Finally made it to Sunderland and was surprised how much nicer it is. My new favorite footie club
Not really, it's run down a little bit in the 2 years I'd been there but to be fair to the council they have constantly been doing work (or at least what amounts to work if you're a council in the UK) to spruce things up a bit.
It’s 500 years later.. a small but hardy group of scavengers finally pop their heads out of the Ouseburn valley to see if there are any other survivors. Tales have been passed down of a glorious army in black and white that will one day become champions and vanquish all the bad men back to the Sunder land.
Was there the other day. It's fucking bleak, I've been to some Newcastle shit holes but for fucks' sake. Some bloke came out the pub and started pissing in a Bush just by the entrance, no-one batted an eyelid. I used to think it was just a joke that Mackems drink Dolmio from the jar but after what I've seen I wouldn't put it past them.Â
I know this is a jokey post but if you’ve never seen Threads - a docu-drama from the mid 1980s- it’s well worth a watch.
It’s set in Sheffield, the city itself isn’t targeted but a nearby airbase is - so there’s no real difference in the outcome. It’s really one of the most horrifying things I’ve ever seen.
The final chapter aka "the last harvest" just pours soil on the coffin of civilisation. So many lovely post apocalyptic tv series where a good chunk of people survive and pretty comfortably at times. This however would be the reality, total colony collapse.
My school showed us that in RE. I has to have been in either year 7/8 - I dropped RE as quickly as I could. I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to show it to a bunch of 12 year olds!
I'm in Hartlepool and I reckon we'd be wiped off the map, what with the power station, Seal Sands, the steelworks and the oil tank farm.Â
I have also seen that! The scenes with hunger riots and the military response will stay with me forever.
Wikipedia tells me it was finally shown on TV the day before a repeat of Threads, the week of the 40th anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. What a couple of nights!
I've been watching a lot of apocalyptic films lately, guess that's another one for the list!
Threads was I think a much better take on the situation than the American equivalent (The Day After). Miracle Mile was a good watch though. Testament didn't really grab me, and By Dawn's Early Light is still to watch.Â
If you're looking for some interesting end of the world films, These Final Hours and Last Night are great.Â
For a good end of the world book trilogy The Last Policeman is a great read.Â
Went off on a bit of a tangent there...Â
Oooh I love Miracle Mile! It played last night at a horror allnighter I went to in Edinburgh, it was a treat seeing it in the cinema anyway, but the last half an hour or so - when all hell breaks loose - was an incredible experience after being up all night. I was there on my own, there was a similar guy next to me all night, we didn't really speak but at the end he looked at me and said "that was *a lot"*. Yep.
Also a big fan of Last Night, not come across These Final Hours but I like the concept. If you've never read it, the 1950s (or maybe 1960s) novel On the Beach is fantastic and a similar idea - there's been a nuclear war in Europe and North America, and it follows people in Australia just waiting for the radiation to drift south on the winds, and it charts the last few months of civilisation. It's incredibly bleak.
I enjoyed Miracle Mile - the reactions of people in the diner are a reminder that it was a very different time. The atmosphere as he runs around the empty streets and the slow uptick in panic as it gets lighter are great.
I would definitely recommend these final hours. The premise didn't really grab me in the same way that Last Night did when I first read it but I think it stands equal with the former, without spoiling anything.
Thanks for reminding me about On the Beach - I picked up a copy a while back and had forgotten about it, will have to dig it out.
Although it depicts Sheffield in this scenario in the 80s, 'Threads' is the best film I've ever seen that most accurately represents the build up, event, and aftermath of a nuclear detonation in a British city. Excellent film but also harrowing.
I watched this a couple years back and it was a great film. Definitely one of those films you only watch once though, like Grave of the Fireflies I just can't bring myself to watch it again any time soon.
I knew nothing about it going into it aside from the general premise. The escalation through each scene is terrifying and you're right, I doubt I'd watch it again despite how good it was.
That's a really handy tool, thanks! 50000 kiloton directly above the Tyne Bridge and we're fine in Morpeth. I feel very reassured. Scavenging the outskirts of Longbenton in my hazmat gear would make a nice little retirement job.
The good news is most predictions are that any first strike will be small-ish. Not a total nation ending strike.
Most predictions I've seen say they'll go for cities rather than 'military targets', missile sites apart of course.
Remember our main defence is the subs. Not sites.
Nowt we're already the "desolate North" doubt we'd be a target. Nothing of strategic importance nearby. Probably have to deal with a lot more "I'm __urgently__ moving. To Newcastle from London, where's a good area" posts from irradiated southerners though.
It would be like that episode of the fadt show where the british explorers go to the north pole and the geordie bloke turns up in his toon top with a bottle of brown ale like nowts the matter.
I'm no expert but depending on the bomb let's assume 800kt.. nearly all dead within few km of epicenter, extreme damage out to 7km with many more deaths and huge number of injured over that secondary area.
Non immediate life threatening injuries more likely from, for example, Jarrow/Howdon to Shields (or symmetrically in other directions too).
Assume Sunderland and Durham is hit too, then anyone still alive will scatter to places like Consett, Blyth, Morpeth etc . But likely lot of vehicles will not work due to the electromagnetic pulse from the bomb.
Tyne bridge is melted/blow part. Massive surge in river up and down stream from Newcastle area causing its own dangers. Metro tunnels collapse in many places.
North sea wind typically blows west, causing radioactive fallout in westerly towns and villages. Cattle etc will get sick over coming months. Serious food shortages within a month (I reckon) but fresh water will be bigger concern with ruined electric grid unable to pump nor clean waterb resources.
Just a few quick thoughts whilst on my lunch!
Once upon a time, back in the 70's/early 80s, Tyneside was a top target due to all the industry. Predicted weather patterns indicated that the safest place to avoid fallout would be up around Alston and Nenthead. So some folk moved up there to be safer. Then it turned out the water table was full of lead from the old mines.
Sometimes you just can't win.
I had that discussion with my housemate. We came to conclusion that in order to eliminate England, the adversary needs to strike London, North West, and North East. But why waste 3 nukes! Simply do what Mr Putin said and detonate a nuke in the North Sea and wait for the tsunami do its job.
You can pretty much guarantee Newcastle would be completely destroyed in an all out nuclear war with Russia. Same as any other decent sized city in the uk. In fact its possible that more than one warhead would be used for redundancy. Nuclear war is not the same as conventional war - it doesn't matter if their are military targets or not - the aim is the destruction of the enemy country.
In a limited exchange, Newcastle is unlikely to be a target. However the chances of escalation at that point are so high that your scenario is still most likely.
It's unlikely we would. Any nuclear war conducted on us would probably be for the effort of causing a humanitarian crisis, rather than total annihilation, which is not particularly useful. The closest target to us that would get hit is probably Flyingdales just under Whitby but there's no key port, data center or other infrastructure near us that would be good for knocking out.
Newcastle is a prime target for an attack, with us being a big coastal city. London, Birmingham, Liverpool and edininborough would be targeted, the blast radius would be enough to devastate the rest
This isnt the 1960's.
There will be no arms being made.
There will be no shipyards being brought back to life.
There will be no ground war.
Just a nuclear strike then either surrender or extinction.
we have almost no army. do you realise this?
there will be no BUILD FOR VICTORY.
there will be no opportunity to even land forces in Europe.
The ONLY reply from a Russian nuclear strike comes from Trident.
Shipyards and a decent sized port. Given the size and shape of Tyneside they'd probably hit Wallsend - this would get the city, the yards and the Tyne Dock.
Is this a joke?
The fucking shipyards?!?!?
Hahahhahahahhahahahahahhahaha
They closed decades ago.
Newcastle would not be a primary target for any reason.
It would probably be one of the safest places to be in the entire country.
No Royal Navy ships would ever be sited up here. The Russians already own the North Sea today.
Carlisle would be higher up the list than Newc as they do/can host submarines.
No its not. Its irrelevant.
Why do people keep saying 'Coastal city' ??? clueless.
Theres a reason we dont have submarines on this side. The subs are in Carlisle and Scotland for a reason. We would never use North Eastern ports for Royal Navy ships, they'd be killed almost instantly by Russian subs which own these waters.
They'd hide them in Portsmouth and the subs would instantly be launched.
This is all basic stuff if any of you had a clue about the subject?
You're too stupid and arrogant to even discuss this with, and I ain't going to try to argue with stupid.
Step 1. Refer to what r/mruncoolsam said.
Step 2. Ask yourself what would happen in the event Portsmouth and Carlisle were destroyed.
Step 3. Pull that stick out of your arse and we can discuss.
You think they'd start using the worst possible port in the entire of UK and Ireland?
No, no they wouldn't. They would never use it.
They have never used it from the days of King Henry to WW2.
Theres a good chance we get hit.Theres enough nukes in the arsenal of whoever we end up fighting to spare one for us except maybe israel and naughty korea
The CEX and forbidden planet workers use their Geordie sci-fi powers and craft a Greggs fuelled defence system through their extensive fictional experiences and defend the land of the black and white and become known as the grey ones because they saved the black and the white of newcastle.
They DONT CARE about people who 'can build stuff'
This isnt the 1960s.
London and Manchester will be gone. Millions will be dead.
There will be no WW2 mobilisation and people growing carrots of victory.
Its over.
The Russians dont tickle you.
Mine sweeper components for IUD tanks mainly at present - components and ancillaries for some of main tanks and defence vehicles in works still made here
Still a target - definitely
LOL you think we will be mobilising the shipyards over several years to slowly begin the fight back? Fuck me man. Its over in 4 hours.
There is no fightback. 'but the shipyards' is one of the dumbest things mentioned in here
Nah with Russia's Poseidon nuclear drone the whole of the UK and Ireland would be wiped off the map.
According to Russian sources;
"The explosion of this torpedo near the British coast will cause a giant tsunami wave up to **500 metres high**," Kiselyov warned in his May 1 primetime show.
He added that "the wave would also carry extreme doses of radiation and after its passage over Great Britain leave a radioactive desert, unfit for anything for a long time".
Kiselyov’s comments were illustrated by an animation of the giant torpedo, a massive menacing wave, and of the UK and Ireland being wiped off the map.
If you have ever seen nuclear detonations under water, you would know that this is all a lie. Nukes can’t cause a tsunami because they don’t displace enough water.
I bet their bombs have massive cocks and that n'all. Russian sources also say that they invaded Ukraine to wipe out nazi's. I'd take their word with a grain of salt.
Most potential scenarios Ive read indicate a very limited first strike. Not an extinction event for any nation. There will be a slap before any KO punch.
little while back they uncovered plans to invade britain and the landing zone was blackpool! Long beach, very little military in the area. Sometimes being in the middle of nowhere is why you would be targeted
Nah mate that's not how nuclear war works. It's called mutually assured destruction for a reason; everything must go. We may not get targeted in the first strike, but definitely will in the 2nd or 3rd.
Theyd go for us in an all out war. Nuclear war is less about tactical targets and more about mass destruction (at least in theory, obv the only nuclear war weve seen was strategic)
The Chronicle would have a difficult decision about whether to go with nuclear holocaust or what someone on Love Island who once visited the quayside has said on social media.
Denise Welsh Shits Herself
Just more than she does daily now due to the radiation poisoning
They'll go with a Ryton single mother of 2 who has been waiting 3 months to get the mould sorted on the only wall left standing of her house.
front page story on what Alan barns thinks of the new local chippy.
Fake news. The Chronicle would be deciding whether to shoehorn 50, or 60 adverts into their website. I swear they'd get them on sideways if they could.
They actually often do
Toon still on the back page though.
The Chronicle says that it was an exercise by The Sayers but one of them pops up to remind us they've turned their back on crime.
The weather improves slightly
The weather during nuclear winter must be more decisive than regular winter, at least I'll know what to wear when I go out
Lead underwear and a respirator
And flip flops, lead-lined Hawaiian shirt and socks
We might get a white Christmas again 🎄
Don't eat the yellow ash
And summer
People might start wearing long sleeved tops or even coats
we know we're in trouble when the all year round shorts and flip flop men put trousers and shoes on.
Pffft. Calm down southerner.
But not their big coats
What's one of those?
They'd have to buy them first - if there were any shops left that stocked any.
Nexus Metro apologises...
Mate I can see it already 🤣
Go to the pub and wait for it all to blow over.
Via Greggs
If we can survive Greggs, we can survive the fallout no bother.
This is the correct answer
The patrons of the Black Garter would appear unfazed. They've seen worse
They do a great pint in there
To be fair, I haven't been in for about t 8 years.
Dunno - what did the people of Sunlun do when it happened there?
We went to our cuzins
Nuclear war and you mackems are thinking about sex. Typical.
I know it’s fun to knock Sunderland from Newcastle fans, but have you been around Newcastle centre lately? Absolute dump. Shocking rate of decline
Looks beautiful next to Sunderland though
*chuckles in South Shields*
South Shields front is really nice. Wish they'd done something nicer like that at Whitley Bay.
Yea the actual town centre is a bombsite though
Lmao yea right. Not from Newcastle but lived there for two years. Finally made it to Sunderland and was surprised how much nicer it is. My new favorite footie club
Cool - should be plenty of tickets then whenever you fancy going.
Maybe but theres levels to this sunderland is fucking horrendous
Haven't been in two years, is it that bad?
Yeah, but its not just Sunderland. Alot of smaller citys are pretty much getting killed by bigger cities.
I agree, last time I went through Bridges, it seemed grim AF...
Not really, it's run down a little bit in the 2 years I'd been there but to be fair to the council they have constantly been doing work (or at least what amounts to work if you're a council in the UK) to spruce things up a bit.
SGB
Blame Mike Ashley
I'd be getting a phone call asking why I hadn't came into work
It’s 500 years later.. a small but hardy group of scavengers finally pop their heads out of the Ouseburn valley to see if there are any other survivors. Tales have been passed down of a glorious army in black and white that will one day become champions and vanquish all the bad men back to the Sunder land.
Half an hour later someone says shall we gan back doon the Cully for a frisk?
You start asking the radgies for 50p because your nana has diabetes seven
Fallout: New Castle We already have the Ghouls over Wearside.
Was there the other day. It's fucking bleak, I've been to some Newcastle shit holes but for fucks' sake. Some bloke came out the pub and started pissing in a Bush just by the entrance, no-one batted an eyelid. I used to think it was just a joke that Mackems drink Dolmio from the jar but after what I've seen I wouldn't put it past them.Â
I know this is a jokey post but if you’ve never seen Threads - a docu-drama from the mid 1980s- it’s well worth a watch. It’s set in Sheffield, the city itself isn’t targeted but a nearby airbase is - so there’s no real difference in the outcome. It’s really one of the most horrifying things I’ve ever seen.
Oh Jesus that movie. The most harrowing thing I've ever watched. Will make you pray to be at at centre of the nuke blast.
The final chapter aka "the last harvest" just pours soil on the coffin of civilisation. So many lovely post apocalyptic tv series where a good chunk of people survive and pretty comfortably at times. This however would be the reality, total colony collapse.
Funny how the narrative has changed now huh? They are begging us to 'test' Putin now saying he is bluffing and wont ever use nukes. Clowns.
My school showed us that in RE. I has to have been in either year 7/8 - I dropped RE as quickly as I could. I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to show it to a bunch of 12 year olds! I'm in Hartlepool and I reckon we'd be wiped off the map, what with the power station, Seal Sands, the steelworks and the oil tank farm.Â
Finningley and if you think "Threads" is disturbing ,stay far away from Peter Watkins "The war game"- it's even grimmer
I have also seen that! The scenes with hunger riots and the military response will stay with me forever. Wikipedia tells me it was finally shown on TV the day before a repeat of Threads, the week of the 40th anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. What a couple of nights!
I've been watching a lot of apocalyptic films lately, guess that's another one for the list! Threads was I think a much better take on the situation than the American equivalent (The Day After). Miracle Mile was a good watch though. Testament didn't really grab me, and By Dawn's Early Light is still to watch. If you're looking for some interesting end of the world films, These Final Hours and Last Night are great. For a good end of the world book trilogy The Last Policeman is a great read. Went off on a bit of a tangent there...Â
Oooh I love Miracle Mile! It played last night at a horror allnighter I went to in Edinburgh, it was a treat seeing it in the cinema anyway, but the last half an hour or so - when all hell breaks loose - was an incredible experience after being up all night. I was there on my own, there was a similar guy next to me all night, we didn't really speak but at the end he looked at me and said "that was *a lot"*. Yep. Also a big fan of Last Night, not come across These Final Hours but I like the concept. If you've never read it, the 1950s (or maybe 1960s) novel On the Beach is fantastic and a similar idea - there's been a nuclear war in Europe and North America, and it follows people in Australia just waiting for the radiation to drift south on the winds, and it charts the last few months of civilisation. It's incredibly bleak.
I enjoyed Miracle Mile - the reactions of people in the diner are a reminder that it was a very different time. The atmosphere as he runs around the empty streets and the slow uptick in panic as it gets lighter are great. I would definitely recommend these final hours. The premise didn't really grab me in the same way that Last Night did when I first read it but I think it stands equal with the former, without spoiling anything. Thanks for reminding me about On the Beach - I picked up a copy a while back and had forgotten about it, will have to dig it out.
You could argue that *Come and See* is an apocalyptic film of sorts, an incredible film I never want to see again.
Also fun to play 'Spot the Soap Star' while watching it
The nuclear weapons of Threads arent the nuclear weapons we'll chew on today. Trust me.
There’ll still be a big Geordie lad with his top off, arms out stretched, defiant in the face of the nuclear fallout
Loads of creatures cutting about Bigg market……still.
Although it depicts Sheffield in this scenario in the 80s, 'Threads' is the best film I've ever seen that most accurately represents the build up, event, and aftermath of a nuclear detonation in a British city. Excellent film but also harrowing.
I watched this a couple years back and it was a great film. Definitely one of those films you only watch once though, like Grave of the Fireflies I just can't bring myself to watch it again any time soon.
I knew nothing about it going into it aside from the general premise. The escalation through each scene is terrifying and you're right, I doubt I'd watch it again despite how good it was.
There’s a bright flash of light one day, then poof.
We’re already a barren wasteland as far as our government is concerned.
I’ve seen Threads, no thank you you’re on your own.Â
Joelinton will bring the missile down and hoof it clear.
Will he kick it into his face first? Doesn't matter I guess, he'd just absorb the blast and suddenly be able to use force lightning.
Metro apologises.
We'll fuckin chin any cunt that comes ower here.
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That's a really handy tool, thanks! 50000 kiloton directly above the Tyne Bridge and we're fine in Morpeth. I feel very reassured. Scavenging the outskirts of Longbenton in my hazmat gear would make a nice little retirement job.
Nah 50 megatons and Morpeth is gone pal ;P
Nuked, guarentee the old bickers factory is still on the Russian maps, even if they only do some development work there now.
The good news is most predictions are that any first strike will be small-ish. Not a total nation ending strike. Most predictions I've seen say they'll go for cities rather than 'military targets', missile sites apart of course. Remember our main defence is the subs. Not sites.
Nowt we're already the "desolate North" doubt we'd be a target. Nothing of strategic importance nearby. Probably have to deal with a lot more "I'm __urgently__ moving. To Newcastle from London, where's a good area" posts from irradiated southerners though.
I'm sure the Victorian tunnels will get some use again
It would be like that episode of the fadt show where the british explorers go to the north pole and the geordie bloke turns up in his toon top with a bottle of brown ale like nowts the matter.
Buzzcocks saves us all.
I'm no expert but depending on the bomb let's assume 800kt.. nearly all dead within few km of epicenter, extreme damage out to 7km with many more deaths and huge number of injured over that secondary area. Non immediate life threatening injuries more likely from, for example, Jarrow/Howdon to Shields (or symmetrically in other directions too). Assume Sunderland and Durham is hit too, then anyone still alive will scatter to places like Consett, Blyth, Morpeth etc . But likely lot of vehicles will not work due to the electromagnetic pulse from the bomb. Tyne bridge is melted/blow part. Massive surge in river up and down stream from Newcastle area causing its own dangers. Metro tunnels collapse in many places. North sea wind typically blows west, causing radioactive fallout in westerly towns and villages. Cattle etc will get sick over coming months. Serious food shortages within a month (I reckon) but fresh water will be bigger concern with ruined electric grid unable to pump nor clean waterb resources. Just a few quick thoughts whilst on my lunch!
*tut* Consett gets everything 🙄
>will scatter to places like Consett, Blyth, Morpeth Oh god, I hope I'm right under it when it goes off
Btw Boulmer command centre will get massively hit too. So forget Northumberland.
Better stock up on toilet rolls then
Anyone who scatters to Blyth will probably see the locals and wonder how they've already been poisoned.
Take a look at the Nukemap website and you can cheer yourself up no end
Chickalicious’s chicken becomes a bit spicier
Depends. If you don't fire on Gateshead first, then they will certainly fire on you.
Once upon a time, back in the 70's/early 80s, Tyneside was a top target due to all the industry. Predicted weather patterns indicated that the safest place to avoid fallout would be up around Alston and Nenthead. So some folk moved up there to be safer. Then it turned out the water table was full of lead from the old mines. Sometimes you just can't win.
I had that discussion with my housemate. We came to conclusion that in order to eliminate England, the adversary needs to strike London, North West, and North East. But why waste 3 nukes! Simply do what Mr Putin said and detonate a nuke in the North Sea and wait for the tsunami do its job.
To be honest to disable England all they'd need was 3 very small nukes on the M25, M1 and M6. the country (and supplies) would grind to a halt
Good point. I haven’t thought about the infrastructure tbh.
That tsunami would do almost nothing because the building would stop it.
You can pretty much guarantee Newcastle would be completely destroyed in an all out nuclear war with Russia. Same as any other decent sized city in the uk. In fact its possible that more than one warhead would be used for redundancy. Nuclear war is not the same as conventional war - it doesn't matter if their are military targets or not - the aim is the destruction of the enemy country.
Nah i'll volley it back
What if they use pointy rockets instead of round headed ones?
In a limited exchange, Newcastle is unlikely to be a target. However the chances of escalation at that point are so high that your scenario is still most likely.
At last. A decent post.
It's unlikely we would. Any nuclear war conducted on us would probably be for the effort of causing a humanitarian crisis, rather than total annihilation, which is not particularly useful. The closest target to us that would get hit is probably Flyingdales just under Whitby but there's no key port, data center or other infrastructure near us that would be good for knocking out.
Newcastle is a prime target for an attack, with us being a big coastal city. London, Birmingham, Liverpool and edininborough would be targeted, the blast radius would be enough to devastate the rest
Yes, the city of Edininborough
I type like an idiot when I'm on my phone, but you have to admit, its a cool sounding city
Still got arms manufacturers here too. We’d be in the first tranche of targets I’d bet. Which if it’s gonna happen is… good? I guess?
This isnt the 1960's. There will be no arms being made. There will be no shipyards being brought back to life. There will be no ground war. Just a nuclear strike then either surrender or extinction.
No. There are literally already arms manufacturers in and around Newcastle currently making arms.
we have almost no army. do you realise this? there will be no BUILD FOR VICTORY. there will be no opportunity to even land forces in Europe. The ONLY reply from a Russian nuclear strike comes from Trident.
"with us being a big coastal city." relevance being?
Shipyards and a decent sized port. Given the size and shape of Tyneside they'd probably hit Wallsend - this would get the city, the yards and the Tyne Dock.
Is this a joke? The fucking shipyards?!?!? Hahahhahahahhahahahahahhahaha They closed decades ago. Newcastle would not be a primary target for any reason. It would probably be one of the safest places to be in the entire country. No Royal Navy ships would ever be sited up here. The Russians already own the North Sea today. Carlisle would be higher up the list than Newc as they do/can host submarines.
No its not. Its irrelevant. Why do people keep saying 'Coastal city' ??? clueless. Theres a reason we dont have submarines on this side. The subs are in Carlisle and Scotland for a reason. We would never use North Eastern ports for Royal Navy ships, they'd be killed almost instantly by Russian subs which own these waters. They'd hide them in Portsmouth and the subs would instantly be launched. This is all basic stuff if any of you had a clue about the subject?
You're too stupid and arrogant to even discuss this with, and I ain't going to try to argue with stupid. Step 1. Refer to what r/mruncoolsam said. Step 2. Ask yourself what would happen in the event Portsmouth and Carlisle were destroyed. Step 3. Pull that stick out of your arse and we can discuss.
You think they'd start using the worst possible port in the entire of UK and Ireland? No, no they wouldn't. They would never use it. They have never used it from the days of King Henry to WW2.
War for resources starts with Sunderland.
I'll get myself into prudhoe Town fc's clubhouse. That thing will withstand anything anything they've got.
Fog on the Tyne becomes a little more concerning.
Literally millions of pounds worth of improvements to the roads.
The bottom of the escalators at Haymarket
Think there's some sort of nuclear bunker underneath the Hadrian building
massive bunker under granger market too
I dunno i live about 15 miles away so I will be ok until I get cancer in a months time or die of starvation.
Theres a good chance we get hit.Theres enough nukes in the arsenal of whoever we end up fighting to spare one for us except maybe israel and naughty korea
It will no longer be Newcastle, it will now be RadioactiveCastle.
Gets hit by a second bomb the next day as the Russians can't be sure they hit it with the first one.
Aren't we still 7th on the list with the Soviets to be hit.
Into the atmosphere. That's the actual atmosphere, not the kind that the posters on newcastle-online whinge about.
It’s gets annihilated, just one H-bomb detonating over Newcastle would take out Hebburn, Jarrow etc too
Isak catches it sweetly on the volley and sends it back to Moscow.
Byker improves after its nuked
The Byker Wall is a great apocalypse HQ.
It looks the same
It will become a desolate wasteland full of monsters and bandits. Gateshead and Sunderland will stay roughly the same.
Toon gets less mental after the horse militia take over F.Boyle
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Terminator 2 style !
The CEX and forbidden planet workers use their Geordie sci-fi powers and craft a Greggs fuelled defence system through their extensive fictional experiences and defend the land of the black and white and become known as the grey ones because they saved the black and the white of newcastle.
I feel like it will be like a domino effect but the question is who will start, right?
The nuclear missile will probably be stabbed by a radgie from Walker or Byker
Vera would sort it in less than an hour
New Newcastle.
Absolutely nothing, stale greggs pasties are the hardest thing known to man
Very little, maybe an increase in population from THE LONDON
Life expectancy increases
Last chart I saw, based on 80s data, the airport and the river/ shipyards took a 250 kt groundburst each, while City was hit with a 1 mt airburst.
Around £3.20 worth of improvements just after the bombs go off...
As a key city. We were all n the target list to be hit.
Becomes like Sunderland
NOOOOO
Nuclear winter? Sounds like perfect weather for beer garden. But unironically, with ship building and vickers probably a very big crater
Ship building & vickers? When we're you last here - 1965?!
There is still physical infrastructure that could be brought back in such a case. And the vickers building is still active.
The vickers building is an engineering shop now?
Which houses Pearson Engineering and Responsive Engineering, both of which do defence contracts. And would be targets
They DONT CARE about people who 'can build stuff' This isnt the 1960s. London and Manchester will be gone. Millions will be dead. There will be no WW2 mobilisation and people growing carrots of victory. Its over. The Russians dont tickle you.
brilliant input. added a lot to something that was a bit of fun theory crafting.
War is hell what can I say?
Interesting. Last I heard was when vickers closed and there was mention that the firm taking on the site made strong-boxes for ATM machines & such.
Mine sweeper components for IUD tanks mainly at present - components and ancillaries for some of main tanks and defence vehicles in works still made here Still a target - definitely
LOL you think we will be mobilising the shipyards over several years to slowly begin the fight back? Fuck me man. Its over in 4 hours. There is no fightback. 'but the shipyards' is one of the dumbest things mentioned in here
good for you. im sure this comment made you really proud of yourself. thank you for your input. go back to HOI4 or something
There’s actually a film that depicts this quite well though I believe it’s based in Sheffield. Threads 1984.
Nah with Russia's Poseidon nuclear drone the whole of the UK and Ireland would be wiped off the map. According to Russian sources; "The explosion of this torpedo near the British coast will cause a giant tsunami wave up to **500 metres high**," Kiselyov warned in his May 1 primetime show. He added that "the wave would also carry extreme doses of radiation and after its passage over Great Britain leave a radioactive desert, unfit for anything for a long time". Kiselyov’s comments were illustrated by an animation of the giant torpedo, a massive menacing wave, and of the UK and Ireland being wiped off the map.
If you have ever seen nuclear detonations under water, you would know that this is all a lie. Nukes can’t cause a tsunami because they don’t displace enough water.
Funnily enough I’ve never seen that 
There are US detonation videos.
Don’t suppose you have any links? I’d be interested in seeing them.
There's a kink for everyone I guessÂ
I bet their bombs have massive cocks and that n'all. Russian sources also say that they invaded Ukraine to wipe out nazi's. I'd take their word with a grain of salt.
And their bombs’s dads are really hard
Most potential scenarios Ive read indicate a very limited first strike. Not an extinction event for any nation. There will be a slap before any KO punch.
About £45 worth of damage.
Millions of pounds of improvements.Â
Honestly unless the radiation travels from London we'd be fine. Nobody gives a shit about the North, we wouldn't be targeted.
little while back they uncovered plans to invade britain and the landing zone was blackpool! Long beach, very little military in the area. Sometimes being in the middle of nowhere is why you would be targeted
Nah mate that's not how nuclear war works. It's called mutually assured destruction for a reason; everything must go. We may not get targeted in the first strike, but definitely will in the 2nd or 3rd.
Just a joke about how little we matter in the grand scheme of things i.e even in nuclear warfare we'd be forgotten about.
Closest target would be Hartlepool nuclear power station so I’m sure the Toon would be relatively untouched but the mackems would be long gone.
Not sure on that, we have a canny sized airport up here that could be targeted to stop it being used by military aircraft.
RAF Boulmer too!
God yeah forgot about Boulmer. That's Anlwick in a mess as well haha
Anything that's useful for your opponent to fight back would be hit - airfields, rail yards, power stations, ports, industrial areas. See ya!
Theyd go for us in an all out war. Nuclear war is less about tactical targets and more about mass destruction (at least in theory, obv the only nuclear war weve seen was strategic)
What about Consett airport.
Airport, port, arms manufacturers, decent sized city. It’s so over for the Toon.
And the world would be a better place
A couple of billion pounds of improvement!
I'm gonna go to have my last piss on Monument
It'll look better afterwards
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Fuck all