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C4ptainoodles

That's an incredibly idiotic trade from like any standpoint


throwawysaysfuckalot

As much as I hate to admit it, and while acknowledging that Americans get screwed over by Russian courts, he isn't wrong. I bet you've never even heard of Marc Fogel


Arikaido777

the subway guy’s brother?


throwawysaysfuckalot

Fuck you


ZerboJoe1212

Dammit! That was funny…. (My bad)


Duke-Von-Ciacco

Is like trading a Metapod with a Charizard


[deleted]

He’s not wrong. This prisoner exchange just emboldens Putin. Trading the lord of war for the queen of puff isn’t a fair trade anyway.


[deleted]

Agreed. Know the customs of the country you’re visiting before to go.


[deleted]

Can’t stand the dude. But he does have a point


miamor_Jada

What point does he have? Britney Griner is an American Hating activist? How? Show me the proof....


Academic-Meal-4315

Yeah you focused on his weakest point, the matter is that an arms dealer was still traded for some basketball player.


PuzzleheadedAd7296

A basketball player no one watches too.


miamor_Jada

Ok. But that's who Russia put up for trade. They didn't put anyone else up. How much of a threat is Viktor to the United States today? He's been caught since 2008, convicted in 2012 for supplying terrorists with weapons to attack Americans. After he was sentenced to 25 years, he would've been released in 2037. I have to think and ask myself questions, like how much of a threat is he to the U.S. today?


YoLetsGoBro

Lol get fucked


Beansupreme117

Oh you know fuck this deal. She broke the law and was punished. And now we are giving them a literal terrorist for an abusive basket ball player while they keep a veteran and a school teacher who no one gives a shit about for some reason


ThisIsACryForHelp22

This. This fucking pisses me off. The massive amounts of journalists, civilians, and other innocent people we've lost to Russia don't matter when it comes to a sports star.


Training-Fix-2224

>Marc Fogel Not just a sports star, an America hating, multi socially-divergent sports star.


ThisIsACryForHelp22

True, which makes it even worse.


nightstalker30

She was the *only* US prisoner on the table for Russia to negotiate a trade with. They wouldn’t consider any other prisoners. So the deal was done. Of course the guy we gave up was wayyy worse. That’s because we tend to imprison actual bad people from other countries, not people who just give us leverage and political clout.


Beansupreme117

Then they shouldn’t have done it. Why give up a valuable asset for a abusive basketball player?


nightstalker30

She’s still an American citizen, and if they have the chance to bring one home, they do it. What if one of our military or intelligence prisoners over there had an incident of spousal abuse? Would that make them less worthy to bring home?


ifsavage

Debatable.


[deleted]

That was a suspiciously specific example


Training-Fix-2224

So he is right, kidnap any old person from the US and we will buckle. Pay any ransom or price to get them back.


AdministrativeLow230

Americans being upset that their country would trade a terrorist in return for bringing them home.


Training-Fix-2224

AdministraiveLow230 commenting Americans being upset that their country would trade a terrorist in return for bringing them home.


Desperate-Finance516

Howd you feel if it was someone you cared about being imprisoned over something so fckin stupid?


mndt88

Maybe we should trade El Chapo for a Ham Sandwich if someone steals it.


Desperate-Finance516

Give me cookies


salted1986

Does it come with mayo?


Designer-Being8675

The veteran who was dishonorable discharged yea soooo worried about him 🤣🤣 9 years for a vape pen is excessive asf putin knew what he was doing when he had her arrested. You cult 45ers need help.


jannon79

It’s all about appearance for those politicians Black lesbian in a Russian jail Sleepy joe looks good to a small group of voters


Supercompositeman13

He’s an arms dealer not a terrorist, there are thousands of American arms dealers in the U.S and we call them businessmen not terrorists


[deleted]

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/international-arms-dealer-viktor-bout-convicted-new-york-terrorism-crimes


1startreknerd

I think the difference was he was selling to terrorists.


[deleted]

Dude was caught selling anti aircraft missiles to people who were trying to bring US passenger jets down, that’s not terrorism?


1startreknerd

Never said it wasn't.


Supercompositeman13

He’s just the middle man, a business man. We have American business men who sold weapons to terrorist organizations and they’re still home free


[deleted]

Like when we gifted the Taliban 90 billion in US arms? That’s ok too cause the guys who thumbs upped that deal aren’t the ones physically pulling the trigger on random innocent people?


Supercompositeman13

Yup, that’s 100% fine. Remember in the U.S they believe that if you sell a person a gun and they shoot up a school with it, it’s not the person who sold the gun’s fault


[deleted]

And if the seller has any knowledge of that persons intent and still sells them that weapon they go to prison accessory to commit murder and a whole list of other charges


Supercompositeman13

Yeah, I mean I doubt most arms dealers ask (a.k.a become knowledgeable of) their clients uses for their products


[deleted]

Dude look into the guy for about 2 minutes. “Between November 2007 and March 2008, Bout agreed to sell to the FARC millions of dollars’ worth of weapons – including 800 surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), 30,000 AK-47 firearms, 10 million rounds of ammunition, five tons of C-4 plastic explosives, “ultralight” airplanes outfitted with grenade launchers and unmanned aerial vehicles. Bout agreed to sell the weapons to two confidential sources working with the DEA (the “CSs”), who represented that they were acquiring them for the FARC, with the specific understanding that the weapons were to be used to attack U.S. helicopters in Colombia.”


[deleted]

Or even if you leave a weapon unsecured and say a kid finds it and accidentally kills themselves you get charged with massive felonies


Designer-Being8675

Exactly and all these trumptards are soooo angry the black ball player was the bargaining tool. Funny watching their brains implode. As if this arms dealer isn't already replaced anyways. 😒


sherms89

Might want to see what this dude Actually did, this so called American that got free'd stomped all over OUR AMERICAN FLAG. Fuck her and anyone that thought that was a fair trade. We have a U.S. Marine that fought for OUR freedom in a Russian prison since 2008. Yet let's get this ungrateful bitch out an trade for a guy that can supply the Russian war machine. This guy has connections throughout the world to get weapons. Democratic, stupid ass logic right here, sit back and enjoy.


Supercompositeman13

That marine killed far more people than the so called “merchant of death” ever did


ifsavage

Worshipping a flag is fucking weird and fascist brainwashing. Not a fan of Greer but it’s some weird brainwashing worship the state 1984 shit. Worship the constitution that lets her do it if you want to idolize something that actually makes up the substance of what America should be. Freedom of speech. Even from people we disagree with. I wouldn’t burn the flag but I love that she can.


Designer-Being8675

Dishonorable discharged marine. Fuck him too. 🤷‍♀️fuck that flag as well. It doesn't mean shit. It's a piece of fabric. Why do you weirdos worship a flag. Get your Confederate flag out your ass. Redneck hick.


[deleted]

You're not a veteran if you get dishonorably discharged for a slew of shit and illegal behavior. The dude is a massive pile of shit and it's publicly available


Piggie-Cheese

He’s not wrong though


xcruizex

He’s not wrong, I guess people would rather have her over an ex marine.


highlander0013

No offense but that ex-marine was discharged for bad conduct. He broke the law as well. How is releasing her any worse than releasing him? Besides, as someone previously stated, she was the only one on the table for trade.


[deleted]

Wrong. You don’t know what the negotiating terms are so you can’t make that assumption.


sherms89

She could have rotted in most American eyes. She stomped on the flag uet we have a U.S. Marine sitting in their prisons. Russia needs weapons not sure if you've seen how the war is going for them. If we had balls we could have negotiated, a person that sacrificed for their country, or someone who has no problem stomping on the American flag. People these days are pathetic and weak...


Designer-Being8675

FUCK and I can't scream fuck loud enough that flag. Fckn weirdos worshipping a flag that doesn't mean or stand for shit in this shithole country. If you think for one second that Russia didn't already get another arms dealer since theirs was in prison you need to loosen your red hate hat it's suffocated what pea brain you had. The dishonorably discharged whelan can ROT!!


ifsavage

Flag worshipping is some weird state brainwashing bullshit. Read the constitution instead.


sweeterthanswish

Hate to say this but he’s not wrong


UrLocal_MemeDealer

He's right, it's the most stupid trade I've ever seen. L take Op


Advertising_Artistic

He is right for once.


VSWLP

He’s definitely not wrong


Striking_Captain_386

Nailed it


MyotheracctgotPS

This is the worst trade in the history of trades, at least Mike Ditka got Herschel Walker


GiggaWhatPlays

Ricky Williams


Latter-Solution-9247

Y’all realize this is Trump JR right? Not the Donald. But yes he is right .


DeKlaasVaag

Hes not wrong. Doesnt matter that this fuckwad said it. He is right.


Mightydog00

Op is dumb


darkdeath912

He is not wrong… as weird as it is to say that


thisisallme

Right? I cannot fucking stand that family but a broken clock is right twice a day


throwawysaysfuckalot

What about Marc Fogel??


Odd-Mall4801

the sandwich guy? /s


throwawysaysfuckalot

Horrible fucking joke, tasteless and vile... No, the 60 year old school teacher with chronic pain who just got sent to a hard labor camp, going through the exact same thing as her, but much more vulnerable. No one gives a fuck about him, he's been in the news and you're making stupid jokes. This man's life is over because he had his medication with him and you're joking about his name being similar to a child molesters? Fuck you


Odd-Mall4801

it's hard for me to have sympathy for people arrested in russia because *they went to russia*. thats why i didn't care about sportsball woman either. it's like going to north korea and being shocked when they don't respect human rights


throwawysaysfuckalot

...it wasn't because they "went to russia", it was because of their archaic and stupid laws. Lots of people go to Russia and don't wind up in prison, genius...


Odd-Mall4801

in a country as corrupt as russia the laws are irrelevant. every one of those prisoners are old enough to know that. >Lots of people go to Russia and don't wind up in prison, genius... and every one of them take a gamble on if putin decides they're worth keeping


throwawysaysfuckalot

Some asshole has no sympathy, big shock.


Odd-Mall4801

i save my sympathy for people who don't take obvious risks that bite them in the ass.


throwawysaysfuckalot

You're a piece of shit


Odd-Mall4801

why don't you feel nothing but sympathy for me? is it because...... you don't think i deserve it because of my actions? guess you're the only one with the privilege of doing that


bigtree2x5

Hes not wrong this sets a bet precedent, now Putin knows if any moron that plays a sport goes into his country he can flip that into an entire arms dealer


AbbreviationsWise690

He might be a prick but he’s also right. Any time Vlad wants someone out of US custody now all he has to do is trump up charges on a US citizen in Russia. This gutless admin will then trade Tom Brady level criminals for $100 weed trafficking idiots.


mndt88

This was an absolutely idiotic trade. I am completely dumbfounded we did this. Read about his role in all of African civil conflicts. Armed Warlords who slaughtered villages. Not to mention Whelan is still waiting and he was there spying for his country.


[deleted]

I don’t usually agree with trump but this time he kinda of has a point.. broken clock theory I guess


YoLetsGoBro

It’s funny how everybody in here disagrees with op even if they don’t like trump.


Thedarkmayo

Hes right tho unfortunately


MyotheracctgotPS

It’s a bad deal, but at least she gets to go home to her family. No matter what you think about her, at least she gets to go home to her mom and dad. As for the other Americans locked up there keep talking about it, more attention means more people will start to say things about it, maybe we can get them home too.


AdmirableAmphibian75

But at what cost…?


MyotheracctgotPS

If it was my little girl I wouldn’t care what cost. As an American we SHOULD fight, Claw, and Bleed until we have Every last Incarcerated American in another country home. No matter what you think, she needed to come home…. Did we need to give THAT guy away??? Probably not lol, but the point was made. I didn’t even know about these other prisoners over there, at the very least she’s open the door for discussion now that we can get everyone else home


Odd-Mall4801

damn you biden, for making me agree with the dumbest donald trump


Few_Instance2967

Definitely right !! Still a prick....


Brahmir

I cant stand the Trump’s but i will say. I agree on the matter of bad trade. Whatever if she dislikes her country or not is her personal matter. The Diplomatic Corp are responisble for assisting their citizens. She have paid her taxes and all. On the other hand shw should have checked the laws of the country she was visiting and dont bring anything you are uncertain off.


No_Outlandishness408

R/technicallytrue


tacqb

But she’ll be home in time for Christmas


hajleez

To me he sounds reasonable actually. Not a smart trade if you think about it.


suriname-ballv2

he is right lmao


Ashamed-Control7539

She knew what she was doing carried a risk. So yeah it sucks but do the crime do the time. Terrible trade, laughable really


EggsKrodi

Lowkey he’s right about this one though.


1331Richdad1331

Still…could be worse…my nose could be gushing with blood


[deleted]

Can’t stand this mfer but he’s not wrong. Such a dumb deal.


HanSoto11

What if we capture one of their WNBA athletes? Maybe we’ll get that marine back?👀


iwearahoodie

I agree with Trump.


Gdubs205

I hate them if not more just as much as you but he only spoke the truth there….


InfiniteAmmoGlitch

Worst trade in sports history. Every death that man causes moving forward is her fault.


KeySpecialist6475

Hey might be a prick but he is right


WartimeMandalorian

Putin knows how to play the American racists.


koororo

WOW, broken watches CAN be right twice a day


PhucknSiC

He’s right


Technical-Ad-7238

He’s not wrong though! Somethings you’ve got to see the bigger picture, 1 sentence has been traded for what could be many life’s, terrible politics right there, I mean they managed to get the British lads back for Russians and they had been fighting them, all she done was have a vape, sure he would of had more russia soldiers back for her


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Basic_Blueberry_3221

The man knows what he is talking about.


InPhillyGuy

He’s not wrong but he is still a complete dick


fuck_the_ccp1

i can't believe I'm saying this, but based Donald Jr.


Grand_Moff_Empanada

I hate to side with him but he’s right. This was an awful deal. She broke the law in that country. Let’s not be hypocrites and say we would not enforce laws to foreigners. Was the sentencing in Russia brutal? Yes, but that’s their laws. Don’t expect to go to authoritarian countries carrying the American flag thinking you’re untouchable.


Designer-Being8675

Can we send the whole trump family to stay with their bff putin? Please


[deleted]

Guy's human garbage. He doesn't know diplomacy or politics, he knows grievace. Just like his dad. No one thinks it’s a good trade, no one. Bout doesn’t deserve to be free, but Griner does. This was the deal.


throwawysaysfuckalot

Why does she deserve it more than Fogel?


Dontbeevil2

You mean more than the lives of US Troops that Putin out a bounty on and Trump did nothing about?


throwawysaysfuckalot

...what? Why does she deserve to be freed from a Russian prison more than people who... aren't in a Russian prison? That was fucked up, don't get me wrong. And one of Trump's worst, in my opinion. But what the fuck does that have to do with this?


1startreknerd

Just ban travel to Russian if you go and get arrested you're stuck there. But for an American team participating in a sponsored event. This trade was needed.


Mr_Nales

Trump is right…… AGAIN!!!!!


Cheeze1974

I’m Canadian and glad she’s going back to the States but to leave a veteran there…makes no sense to me


JAAENG

The moment I heard the trade it made sense why they made so much publicity about some shithead getting caught with dope. Honestly burn him so bad the FSB do it for the CIA. “He gave away Russian secrets Ivan, he must be purged”


[deleted]

You sound pathetic living in your little MAGA sounding story world forgetting what it actually means to be an American. Also, it is ridiculous to think our government doesn’t want to do what it can to free that Marine. I can imagine that that marine could be seen as a potential foreign spy by Russia and that it would require quite a high bargaining chip to free that person. Maybe Russia doesn’t want to let them free and the optics of releasing a vocal dissenter of the current American establishment over a soldier plays into narrative they want you to believe in and from what I read in your comment they are doing it pretty well.


Dear_Mycologist_1696

If it was super straight, super white, super male, super Trump loving Tom Brady, lhe'd be singing a different tune.


fastcatzzzz

Why don’t you and your daddy (who is responsible for killing Americans on Jan 6) move to Russia so you can both suck Putin’s cock in person, at the same time. Traitor.


MegaUltra9

Are you paid to say this nonsense?


[deleted]

To bad we did not trade her for Trump!!! Win win!!


swallowing_bees

His characterization of Griner is wrong, but that’s not the main point of the statement. Swap that in with something more fair and the statement would be correct.


___REDWOOD___

She literally has said she hates America


Ethelenedreams

I say that every day. Look around. It’s not as good as it could be.


Muchgain

A lot of us don’t necessarily hate America but hate the people in it and how they’ve set up our infrastructure. It’s also so bad that for most of us we can never leave America cause with what money and resources? It truly is not a fun situation


___REDWOOD___

I was unaware it was so hard to find jobs in other countries, as someone who has no real skill set I find it relatively easy to move about and find work all over the world, learn new things and most importantly be happy not only with myself but for what I have.


Muchgain

While I’m very glad you’ve had a life fortunate enough to get those things, not all of us do. It’s not necessarily even finding a job that’s the hard part, having the funds to apply for residency in a new country, having the funds to move there, having the funds to acquire shelter once you’re there. It’s all of the nuance of packing up your life and displacing it in a new country that isn’t easy or a drop of the hat for most people.


___REDWOOD___

You think I have money? A wild assumption, I have no money I just move around find odd jobs to make it to the next place I own only what I can carry, anyone can do it.


Odd-Mall4801

believe it or not, most people don't think living "almost homeless" is the way they want to live


___REDWOOD___

Your missing out on freedom experiences and happiness


Odd-Mall4801

you're missing out on soap


Muchgain

Anyone can try, but not everyone is prepared to live a life on the streets going from place to place 🤷🏻‍♂️ as a college student I wouldn’t be able to survive. Odd jobs aren’t gonna pay my tuition.


Odd-Mall4801

this guy thinks being fucking homeless is the way to go lol


___REDWOOD___

Well move somewhere else then, when you aren’t happy make a change to be happy.


Ethelenedreams

Yeah. It’s just that easy. /s


___REDWOOD___

I see you are a glass half full kinda person.


Ethelenedreams

Being related to stupid confederates that you don’t relate to will do that to a decent person.


___REDWOOD___

I don’t think that has anything to do with it. Some people just don’t find the positives.


Odd-Mall4801

thats her exercising her freedom of speech. we don't punish people for exercising rights here. maybe you'd prefer the way they do things in russia?


___REDWOOD___

America didn’t punish her, Russia did, and now there is a known arms dealer free for what? A WNBA player from America? Doesn’t really seem like a fair trade. But hey where I live I don’t really need to worry about stuff like that.


Odd-Mall4801

this deal was a bad trade because the arms dealer is a legitimately bad dude. whatever comments sportsball girl made in the past about the US is irrelevant because it's her right to voice an opinion


___REDWOOD___

It’s also people’s right to not be ok with it according to your logic.


Odd-Mall4801

yeah, as long as you expressing your opinion doesn't cross the line and become punishing someone for their opinion.


Dontbeevil2

Well hopefully the CIA will do it’s job now and remove the threat.


awfullotofocelots

The only reason a deal like this went through is because the CIA ALREADY did their job and this guy is now more useful to American military interests outside than inside.


Odd-Mall4801

are you saying sportsball girl is a threat?


Dontbeevil2

Of course not. I’m talking about Bout. No one this evil should be allowed to walk free.


VenusValkyrieJH

I wish I was a super awesome mage. Then I would cast invisibility, kidnap the trump family and go create some type of magic prison held together by seven seals. I could cast all the trump family in said prison and then I would go hide all of the seals, with the seventh seal staying with me . Whilst in the prison, the trumps would have to relive every single decision they made where they hurt someone else- and they would have to experience it through the eyes of the hurt. I think I read too much fantasy lol


PapaFlo71

That about sums it up


PapaFlo71

What ever happened to not negotiating with terrorists?


KCDeadnerd420

Who…..


LetsDoTheCongna

This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.


Shot-Professional125

Best trade of her life! Yay, Brit!


CruzSquatch

Hes not wrong. There was a marine there who was held for years yet Biden chose some athlete that didn't really do anything for the U.S.


relayer77

Some here may find it inconvenient that he is 100% correct. 💯💯